Why don't movies have color like this anymore?
they got rid of color after 9/11
>>222665506that movie must be insane in 4K.
The world doesn’t have colour anymore.
>>222665506what color? they're all white?
>>222665506what does a bandana around the neck do?
anyone in the industry still focus on things like this anymore? no niche films but good ones.>>222665533sounds about right
>>222665616makes niggers perish
>>222665616better orgasms when jerking off
>>222665506they all film on greenscreen sets nowsupposedly its cheaperbut makes for terrible lighting and colorgrading
>>222665506lost the technology
>>222665506Digital results in a grey washed out look, so they just tint it. No color for you. Creating color that is either naturalistic or looks like old film takes work and time. They don't have time.
>>222665551it's actually okay in 4k. the movie's never been remastered in any significant way.
>>222665506So many big productions now are filmed entirely on green screens with very generic lighting so everything can be changed at a whim without much disruption to the shot. I feel like some directors and cinematographers think making everything grey and dull makes a movie look more “grounded”.
>>222665506Color? We have orange in the fucking White House right now and you want color?
>>222665587
color or lack of color can help tell the story. go check out the director's cut of payback, the color is correct and the movie is absolute shit (for that and several other reasons).
>>222665616Prevents the sweat from running down. Same reason people wear them across their forehead so the sweat doesn't go into their eyes. Also you can flip them up in the back to protect your neck if its prone to burning. Dudes a paleontologist, he's used to being out in the sun bending down to work on fossils
>>222665726contrast it with teal because "color theory"
>>222665506The idea of what makes films "cinematic" now is strong color grading. Start buying the movies you like now because they're started to get remastered to be modernized.
>>222665923It's more often than not living directors who think they made their past films in a mistaken way and wish to update them. It's clearly insecurity and fear of being the odd man out in hollywood circles. They are drinking some weird Koolaid and have no clue what people want. I put this on par with that stpuid colorization fad of the 80s. >The idea of what makes films "cinematic" now is strong color grading. Start buying the movies you like now because they're started to get remastered to be modernized.They're gonna use AI to insert random negroes and queers into the background of movies for sure. Movies will probably have a minimum required amount of minority screen time.
>>222666087I can't even begin to express how much I hate this "everything must now be blue or orange" shit.
>>222666119>Michael MannWho's alive. Criterion unfortunately believes in the power of creatives, but NOT that creatives can one day become retarded. So they follow the original director's wishes when they remaster film. Mann wanted blue lights. >I can't even begin to express how much I hate this "everything must now be blue or orange" shit.Even sillier, is that there's innumerable ways that they COULD have made the sets blue at the time of filming. They could have used blue lights, or used blue lenses, or colored the film blue in post-production. They didn't. then 45 years later the director says "It should have been blue". Coincidentally right when yellow-green-blue-pink tinting becomes super popular among modern productions?It's a clear example of follow the leader.
This is basically not possible now.
>>222666169Not just Mann unfortunately, there are a lot of Criterion releases that have these orange or blue edits happening now.>They could have used blue lights, or used blue lenses, or colored the film blue in post-production. Absolutely. Shit, you had to actually get certain film to get certain colors anyway, like how Tungest film was used for under really orange lights to cool the look but wasn't used during daytime because it made everything too blue.
>>222666222Yes, and worse because Wong Kar-Wai has a good case of having created some modern masterpieces. Instead of leaning into that, he goes "follow the leader".
>>222666266Pissed me off so much that I went on eBay to look for the earlier releases of these movies, I don't want the updated shit.
>>222666285what movie? those original colors are neat and i assume its some drug movie
>>222666285Just torrent the earlier releases for free on the internet and burn them on a disc, no money or bullshit involved.
>actual blue lighting isn't enough, we need to tint it blue!
The Indians responsible for post production, CGI and everything else only know the color brown
>>222665661This has been explained a million times: modern lighting being shit is not a matter of digital vs film. There are several movies released in the last few years shor all on film that still have that terrible grey/green wash and tint to them. It's all about lighting design.
>>222666328Welcome to Jurassic Bastard
>>222666328Bloody benchold, there are some white indians!
>>222666331Digital is part of it because digital cameras are "too good' and catpure everything, including light ranges that human eyes can't see. So it produces a light grey washed out image. You need to fix it by manually changing the color grading. Most of the time they are leaving in the grey washed out image. >There are several movies released in the last few years shor all on film that still have that terrible grey/green wash and tint to them.They scan them digitally, then start messing with them, so the difference is minimum.
>>222666346Great, I fucking hate it.
Digital intermediate and coloring getting common around ~2000 made it possible to achieve extremely over-stylized and repugnant looks on film without much effort and that's what the whole industry eventually went with extremely dull look selected. Even random local TV shoestring budget shows that had been previously shot and edited in video and looked "natural" suddenly gained named "Color correctors" and started looking overproduced and annoying.
>>222666379>They scan them digitally, then start messing with them, so the difference is minimum.People love to keep saying that's a modern thing and the key reason, but this has been the standard way to color grade film since O Brother Where Art Thou. The grading now looks shit because they made it look shit on purpose.
>>222666407Some of the earlier digital films looked okay but were still a HUGE downgrade. O Brother is one of them. But they had to compete with film so they tried to match it. After film was phased out they got lazier and lazier and lazier. No one cares about anything now. It's just slop for streaming services.
>>222666407>they made it look shit on purpose.but why tho
>>222666433Because those looks became a meme because people started viewing those grades on being cinematic. It's like if you went on YouTube now and looked up cinematic color grading, all of the tutorials will be about that teal and orange look. Everyone is essentially in some stalemate of agreeing it looks great and nobody wants to be an outsider by not doing it.
>>222666431>After film was phased out they got lazier and lazier and lazier. No one cares about anything now. It's just slop for streaming services.True. I can only think of a handful of movies and shows in recent years that had pre-2000 style color grading.
>>222666460I suspect that after video services like Youtube got big, they tried harder and harder to distinguish the look of "cinema" from regular videos shot on cheap cameras. The default film look is some weird desaturated color grading with strong yellows... for some reason. I think it looks like shit and it started to really bug me after the 2010s.
>>222665506I love Laura Dern's boney titties.
>>222665506Obama made it illegal
>>222666491LOLThis is literally it. This bitch is calling normal coloring "boring", but goes for more shadows and shitty desaturation and calls it "cinematic". It looks like SHIT. She is doing the desaturated grey washed out look on purpose and thinks she's the SHIT.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6xCTAk8LwwWhat is hollywood smoking? I hate this look so much.
>>222666491>I suspect that after video services like Youtube got big, they tried harder and harder to distinguish the look of "cinema" from regular videos shot on cheap cameras.That's my main theory too, but some anons said that was a retarded theory but I still standby it. It's pretty obvious that as the internet, online video and phone cameras started appearing literally everywhere that these extreme and ugly grades started to become more apparent in movies and TV. There's still a lot of shows from the 2000s that looked great despite being digital but you can really see shit getting bad in the 10s.
>>222666379You adjust the light on a digital camera the same way as you would on film, especially if it's a manual lens. Digital does allow you to change the color easier in post, that's true, but the initial raw video file can still be lit however you want it. I've shot a lot outside and you can get a ton of super realistic bright, colorful lighting outside. I do miss old film lighting and color though. Even scifi kinos in darker rooms used to be colorful
>>222666526This. I've been experimenting with video myself (despite really only being a photographer) and there is an insane amount of grading freedom in LOG footage. Current grades look bad by choice, it's not the fault of digital at all.
>>222666524Right. I noticed tv and film looking mostly fine in the early 00s and early 2010s. I feel 2012 is when this really took off in high degree, right when social media exploded. yes I know it had been around for a few years but social media really exponentially grew over a few years and became the behemoth monster around 2012.
>>222666431>The BrutalistThat library seauence was the best part of the movie, and certain parts of that quarey scene. Rest was meh to bad, also had a bizzare anti gentilist message.
>>222666524The final blow is ditching of CRT monitors in the production process.
Films from the 60s or 70s with outdoor scenes now look very strange to me since it's all natural colors and bright lights. I expect it to look dim, overcast, and with blue.
Some people complained about the mid 00s overly bright look. but I'm fine. It's still has strong colors and contrast.
>>222666565This is what outdoor scenes on a bright day look like in "modern cinema". It hurts my eyes. I hate the Anti-christ.
>>222666565>>222666552Any older movie shot outside was so colorful. I watched a re-issue of 'it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world' in theatres last year and what struck me the most was how colorful everything was.
>>222666599That doesn't look too bad but I'd need to see the full sequence
This film is 2008 and I don't know anything about the production, but this is how a film should look to me. It's got perfect clearity, perfect colors and contrast. No tint, no haze, and actual contrast. >>222666616IT LOOKS REALLY BAD.It looks like an extremely overcast day, but you can see clear as day that there are only a few clouds in the sky. Extremely overcast dim skies is what we get now.
>>222666552Phone camera have also warped our perception of video footage and still images. My cinematogropher friend explained it to me once that because of phone camera micro size there is a lot of digital trickery that goes on to attempt to make it look 'normal' but it isn't naturally. It's why all these tiktok and instagram videos have this uncanny look to them. Wish I could remember the exact reasons he said.
mondo cane was fucking gorgeous. when they start decapitating the bulls I was blown away by the vibrant blood.
>>222666565Same. Lawrence of Arabia looks incredible for all the natural colors, you can really feel that they're actually there. I know they were actually there obviously but I never get that impression from new movies, that orange filter shit takes me right out of it and I really notice I'm watching a movie, I don't feel drawn in.
>>222666604That's technicolor, which has its own unique look. It is more satuared than reality. Back in the day, they were actually competing to see which technology could produce the best and brightest colors! Which is crazy to see how things turned out after 2012, where they try to make their films as dull looking as possible.
>>222666636>This film is 2008 and I don't know anything about the production, but this is how a film should look to me. It's got perfect clearity, perfect colors and contrast. No tint, no haze, and actual contrast.Yeah that looks great, the cute girl dancing doesn't hurt either.>It looks like an extremely overcast day, but you can see clear as day that there are only a few clouds in the sky. Extremely overcast dim skies is what we get now.What movie is that outside image from?
>>222666654>Which is crazy to see how things turned out after 2012, where they try to make their films as dull looking as possibleWhat funny and sad is that I work as a pro photographer and had some people bitch about my work being too colorful because it had nice blues, oranges and yellows in the scene. Apparently they wanted it to be dull. It irritates me even more when I use film.
>>222666653>that orange filter shit takes me right out of it and I really notice I'm watching a movie, I don't feel drawn in.I really feel this. Very rarely am I able to be immersed in modern films because they just don't look real. I was shocked when I found out that the recent Frankenstein movie wasn't 100% CGI and was actually filmed in scenic locales with a lot of practical stage dressing. I thought for sure it was entirely greenscreen when I watched it.
This is my default for what a "film" should look like. Even if it was not considered high art, film productions had professionals who ensured it was done right. Just imagine how dogshit a Netflix made Ace Venture 3 would look?>>222666653>that orange filter shit takes me right out of itLike are they shooting it on Mars? Nothing on earth looks like that, short of being in the middle of an actual sand storm.
>>222666654>where they try to make their films as dull looking as possible.I wonder if this is because everyone is on anti depressants and stoned all the time these days. Say what we will about the typical association with artists and drug use, but all the best artists I've ever known and worked with, be they performers or guys on production, have been very soberminded and rarely if ever used drugs or drank.
>>222666696>I was shocked when I found out that the recent Frankenstein movie wasn't 100% CGI and was actually filmed in scenic locales with a lot of practical stage dressing. I thought for sure it was entirely greenscreen when I watched it.Yes, they fuck around so much with it in post production and add cgi and shit to it that it makes it look very unreal. Something like 20-50 people NEED to do this to justify their paychecks btw.
>>222666705You hit the nail on the head. All those old 'b studio' movies from the 90s and early 2000's had better production quality than Hollywood blockbusters today.
>>222666741>The color contrast on that line of shoesInject it straight into my veins
>>222666741What a beautiful frame.
>>222666755Ace Ventura was never considered high art. Looks completely normal.
White isn't a color....oh wait you meant the colors of their clothes and surroundings....
>>222666696It's tragic. At least there are a lot of old good movies to still watch, and there is a good new one every now and again (usually foreign language though).>>222666705>This is my default for what a "film" should look like. Based.>Like are they shooting it on Mars? Nothing on earth looks like that, short of being in the middle of an actual sand storm.Fuckin' a. I've been to Death Valley and other deserts and it's not some orange nightmare like in the movies. >>222666741Based Paris, Texas enjoyer.
>>222666636P U T A
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/43401317/#43426042Checking through old webm film threads, which helps give some perspectives. No one was bitching about color grading back then, so people were just posting whatever. Thus the sampling size is almost random and just what anons liked. Most of the material looks fine. And sadly, I think /tv/ was actually watching more tv and film back then, since modern webm threads are half filled with youtube/tiktok e-celebs, or modern productions. I'm seeing a wide array of 90s films in here, some asian productions, Takasshi Mike films, etc. I suspect that anons keep goign to /tv/ but over time their actual consumption of tv-film actually went down. It's why ther'es more e-celeb and culture war thrads.
>>222666741>>222666803Robby Mueler, the Paris, TX cinematographer is a legend. He has some amazing shots from The American Friend too. He has some great interviews where he talks about lighting a scene and how the real skill in cinematography is how you use lighting. He also only used static lenses ie lenses that couldn't zoom in or out, if you watch any movie he's done you'll see they never zoom in or out, because he never used lense that could.
Almost random low budget 90s film as an example. Spoilered because of da blood.
Color? Hell I'd settle for deep focus shots
>>222666864>Spoilered because of da blood.You think this is fucking reddit?
>>222666853
Films and TV shows have looked like complete horseshit for the last 20 years. Zoomers don't watch anything old so they don't know any better.
baby named me fire wayne
This is how our dog shit brain dead teen comedies looked. >>222666871I've been banned for less.
>>222666853>>222666872
>>222666883>I've been banned for less.For being a little bitch, I'd wager.
>>222666878>Films and TV shows have looked like complete horseshit for the last 20 years.Hard to say the exact timeline since i'd have to start pulling old films out and checking their dates. But even in this thread the 2008 film looks fine: >>222666636The industry didn't switch over to digital all at once. And LED lights came later. >Zoomers don't watch anything old so they don't know any better.I don't know if he was trolling but an anon in the thread last week was praising the color tinting saying it helped signify what emotions you should feel, and didn't think the washed out colors were a big deal.Drive for 2012 looked okay, but comparing it to 70s films? It's a bit washed out.
>>222666853>The American FriendI don't know it but I'll add it to my movie list.
>>222666878What's sad is when I talk to zoomers and recommend some old kino they'll actually go watch it then come back to me and be like "THAT WAS AMAZING" but then go back to watching the same braindead tiktok shit after. It's sad.
BvS has some really nice shots and color. Too bad the script is dogshit
>>222666915It's kino
>2009They must have still been using film. It looks normal. I don't buy it's always been this bad for 20 years. It was a gradual thing after 2010s after they switched to digital.
>>222666915You'd never see that shot with the vivid red car in any modern film. Crazy.
>>222666878>Films and TV shows have looked like complete horseshit for the last 20 yearsThere have been good shows in that timespan and they had good color grades, the really shitty stuff only started in the mid 10s. We still had plenty of shows with natural colors in the 00s.
>>222666924I've had this happen too. I don't understand. Hell even back in college I saw it with my fellow millennials>>222666933Why can't digital look good? Isn't it mostly in the lenses anyways?
>>222666924My zoomer cousins were talking about the Transformers One animated movie from a few years ago and how much they liked it. I told them to watch the 86 TF movie if they love the new one. I told them it was free on youtube. They never watched it.
>>222666933Anon we've been over this, digital isn't the problem.
>>222666932>Wes Wenders>1970s noir>adapted from a Tom Ripley storyKino of the purest degree, I fucking need it.>>222666952>Why can't digital look good? Isn't it mostly in the lenses anyways?It can, but there are various things going on that makes it look shitty and it's all based on choices of the filmmakers. Color grading being the worst, and the second being (to me anyway) over sharpening. You can get soft lenses but because of people having image quality autism, sharpness has become extremely pervasive in the photography and videography world. Even grain is now seen as some evil thing.
>>222665661No. Attack of the Clones was the first major film shot completely digitally with a shit ass resolution and dynamic range and it's still colorful. They just don't want colors these days.
>>222666965Shot on FILM with 35mm film negatives. Yes, it's ground zero for this problem.
Japanese toy commercial show made 60 years ago with a few piece of plastic and cardboard look better than anything released from the past decade
>>222666982>Even grain is now seen as some evil thing.Get on my level.
Remember when sci-fi had color? I remember
>>222666839Tbh even though movies were already really shit in 2014, things kept getting worse and /tv/ has always been a board that embraced off topic, sometimes leading to great threads other times leading to the modern /tv/ catalog.
>>222667026Oppenheimer and Napoleon were shot on film and they had plenty of issues with grey/green tint, especially Napoleon outside the marraige scene. It isn't entirely digitals fault, as >>222666985 exhibits clearly. You're just 'old thing new good thing bad REEEEEing' over something that isn't actually the issue.
>>222666087>They're gonna use AI to insert random negroes and queers into the background of movies for sure.Too bad for THEM because we'll just be able to use our own AI to remove all the gay niggers before we watch
>>222667026>Shot on FILM with 35mm film negatives.Which was scanned ungraded into a computer and then graded digitally. That's been the standard since 2000.
>>222667099Modern /tv/ may just be the worst board on 4chan. Half the threads at any given time are twitter screencap gossip/rumor threads, the other half are bait threads. Once in a while you'll get a thread like this one, usually when the Americans are all asleep. Oh and I'm an American btw, I just can't get to sleep.
>>222666878>>222666924Depending on the zoomer. You have plenty of them on letterbox that watch a lot of classic cinema from before 2000
>>222666982>>Wes Wenders>>1970s noir>>adapted from a Tom Ripley story>Kino of the purest degree, I fucking need it.It's really good, I need to rewatch it myself desu
>>222667085There also seems to be a cultural trend that thinks color = less serious, and no color = mature and adult. You're a mature adult right? You don't want some kiddie shit. It's bled into both car and house designs. Also aligns with cheap fucking house renovation techniques (it's all plastic and laminated shit even in "high end housing"). https://www.ladbible.com/news/us-news/home-alone-house-2024-reddit-millennial-grey-042420-20241202The bottom films seem to be trying to signal that they're SERIOUS.
>>222667073I hate when they remove grain in movies/animation. A weird example but Paranoia agent was animated digitally yet Kon added grain himself for the atmosphere. Guess what? One of the official releases removed the grain. Motherfuckers.
>>222667153>>222667099In the 2014 webm threads i've seen, the ONLY time an e-celeb was brought up was red letter media. I just saw a webm thread last week that started with several tiktokers making movie parodies. I genuinely and sincerely think the culture has shifted. In 2014 people still sorta kinda watched tv and film. But gradually they got repalced with online media.
>>222667180>the Home Alone house is ruinedI think I'm going to be sick.>Also aligns with cheap fucking house renovation techniques (it's all plastic and laminated shit even in "high end housing"). I've been moving away from that shit in recent times. When I was a teenager I wanted all that white modernist crap, but as I've got older I started installing warm lighting around my house and getting things like wood shelving, along with some nice green plants to give some life. I've also got back into film photography too (pic related is not mine but film gives such a comfy look).
>>222667099This is one of the better threads imo. It just needs a few more movies reccs in posts and it's certified kino.
I like media that is life affirming - that life is exciting and worth living. Having warm inviting colors helps. I get this a LOT in media from the 60s and 70s but not so much now. Increasingly society seems hellbent on making everything ugly and uncomfortable looking - from city design, building design, car design, tv, film, etc. Warmth is being removed. Current affairs has a nice 2017 article on why you hate modern buildings:https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2017/10/why-you-hate-contemporary-architecture
>>222667258With the amount of people that hate the way things are nowadays you'd think creators would wanna make more I spring stuff
>>222667258I think there are some modern buildings that can look inviting if they have a good designer behind them
Black Rain looks really good. The movie itself is really mediocre, but it looked great.
>>222667240>>the Home Alone house is ruined>I think I'm going to be sick.Oh don't worry, it was bought by idiots who remodeled it on modern soulless trends, but then new people bought it and said they're going to restore it to the original look. Then allow people to have tours. But this is a 1 in a 1,000,000 good story. Millions of old houses are rennovated by idiot realtors who remove all color and slap cheap plastic and shit everywhere. Did you know these "wooden floors" in modern apartments are laminated? It's not real wood! Give me fucking tile at least! https://build-construct.com/building/interior-design/millennial-gray-why-the-overused-neutral-feels-dated-and-what-to-use-instead/
If you want quick examples, put a date into the file name to find shit. Helps if you add "Criterion"https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/criterion%201972/
RIdley Scott is bar none the worst to the point where I question if he is losing his eyesight. His last two films were shot in BLueworld for seemingly NO GOD DAMN reason.
>>222667367And flipping things around, Ridley Scott was also the director of a fantastic looking film called The Duelist. So he is capable of making a historical epic that isn't set in some dull hellscape?
>>222667326>Millions of old houses are rennovated by idiot realtors who remove all color and slap cheap plastic and shit everywhere.Oh I know, I used to work in real estate and I was hateful of people that had altered 70s and 80s homes into modern soulless husks. My plan is to get a comfy 80s house and give it a warm yuppie kind of vibe (some weird artwork, warm downlights, very comfortable soft furniture, indoor palms etc).>Did you know these "wooden floors" in modern apartments are laminated? It's not real wood! Give me fucking tile at least! Yeah that happens a lot, it's awful. Nobody wants to spend money on shit though and a lot of the time it's just quick cheap upgrades to add some extra money to the house price. You'd be amazed at how much the asking price goes up if you redo the floors, paint the walls and add new curtains. Just $5000 in small "upgrades" can add $50,000 to the asking easily.
>>222667367lol this scene slayed mehttps://youtu.be/R6vk9A7Ymf8playstation 1 cinematic.
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>>222667351Examples of good or bad though? Because they've been shitting out remasters with ugly grades since 2021.
>>222667153>Modern /tv/ may just be the worst board on 4chan.I can tell you do not frequent /v/. 9 out 10 threads are just porn.
Paris, Texas might be one of the best looking films of all time.
>>222667153And that one schizo rambling about pajeets in every thread.
>>222667395Aren't these men nobility? Why does it look like nothing but mud and a stone wall? Why does no one wear any color? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr9roMoMT1YAn example of a film from "the before times". We laughed at Knight's Tale and called it a dog shit film with a pretty boy lead. We had no idea how good we had it. >>222667437Generally trust your instincts. If it looks desaturated or tintend it probably is. Check guides and forums to see if anyone is complaining. More often than not, it's living directors who make these kinds of demands.
>>222665506Yids hate beauty
>>222667351Criterion can suck my butthole, random Euro blu-rays have better grading of their movies.
>>222667431delete this
>>222667367>>222667395Comparison of historical art of knights and infantrymen of the era. Notice something missing?>>222667506I guarantee you that director is alive and told them to do that. >>222667503Ashkenazi Jews were in top positions during the golden age of Hollywood, all throughout the majority of classic hollywood that we're celebrating. If antyhing, many jews lost power post 2018 due to #Metoo (replaced by idiot white women).
>>222667536>I guarantee you that director is alive and told them to do that.I doubt that he cared. Criterion offered him money to put "director restored blah blah" and he said "do whatever you want".
>>222665506I can tell those jeans were made in USA/Hong Kong or something. No cheap China or Honduras crap yet. Crichton also liked to warn normies about the dangers brewed up by white collar/bureaucrats/on federal funding. Worldview was opposite of current slop machinery, though Gulf War Syndrome & the sudden propaganda of SIDS ("don't let your infant sleep on their stomach you murderer") belied the truth that Establishment DGAF killing ppl.
>>2226673671000 hours on Snapseed
>>222667536>I guarantee you that director is alive and told them to do that. I find it very suspicious that all these regraded remasters just so happen to only be Criterion releases and not releases from other companies.
>>222667367>>222667378Blade Runner has a lot of beautiful shots, but as time goes on I'm beginning to think that had more to do with Cronenweth than Scott. I do think Scott has really lost his touch.
>>222667566You have to look at this on a case to case basis, Memories of Murder has that green grade in the European and Asian releases to, Criteriom probably isnt to blame here. Same with Michael Mann films.
>>222667588Isn't it supposed to be the bottom because they did the "day-night" trick? Lmao
They don't shoot on film anymore. They shoot digitally. When you get a digitally shot scene, it looks gray. I've heard it being explained as that gray gives you the most options for later color grading. However Hollywood so far has not produced anybody who knows how to properly color grade. That's why all modern movies look so miserable.
>>222667452>I can tell you do not frequent /v/Not in years, but that's just because I don't play video games anymore
>>222667378Even then he was tinkering with the grad filters, but at least it was with purpose.
>>222667595Undoubtedly. Directors have a lot to do with it too, but the cinematographers are where it's really at and they do the heavy lifting.
>>222667604nah, that particular release darkens all the daytime scenes for some reason. it's the most egregiously bad bluray I've seen.
>>222667605>When you get a digitally shot scene, it looks gray. I've heard it being explained as that gray gives you the most options for later color grading. It's called LOG, it's where the color spectrum and highlights/shadows are all in the scene in a flat way to be graded. You can do truly incredible grading with LOG footage, so it's not the fault of digital. I've worked with LOG footage myself and you can make it look like any older film you want really.
>>222667616Grad filters have such a daytime TV feel to me for some reason.
>>222665506cause it's not 1992 anymorethe 20th century is gone and been gone for a while now
>>222667645Oh, OK. Thanks. I didn't mean to have it come across as if shooting digitally was the cause for all modern films looking miserable. It's clearly the lack of proper color grading. There used to be an era when you could tell a scene was shot digitally and inserted into a film movie. (They used to do that for action scenes, probably because it was cheaper when you had to shoot a scene 50 times just to get it right.) Anyway, that era is past, digital film looks great today. Or would look great if they only had somebody who could get the colors to look right. (And not like colorized black and white movies.)
>>222667536>Ashkenazi Jews were in top positions during the golden age of Hollywood, all throughout the majority of classic hollywood that we're celebrating. This is the irony 4chan fails to grasp, jews who ran studios used to be major taste makers: they maybe weren't the most talented artistically, but they knew how to identify and hire the talented passionate artists and let them work. Katzenburg was churning out kino after kino in the 90s until he founded Dreamworks and the continued to churn out kino. Most of the producers from the golden age of Hollywood and Broadway for that matter were jews. I'd give anything to have those guys running things again because they knew who were and weren't artists and didn't hire people on dei bullshit.>If antyhing, many jews lost power post 2018 due to #Metoo (replaced by idiot white womenThis in part, and the floyd protests let a bunch of perhaps talented but raw and ignorant diversity filmmakers into the house of cinema who didn't deserve to be there. The younger jews who run these atudios are a problem though. Kushner founded A24 and they're largely responsible for most issues plaguing modern film, and the son of the Blackstone founder runs Black Bear studio which produces a bunch of woke nonsense. Hollywood actually needs oldhead jews back and running studios
>>222667707>Oh, OK. Thanks. I didn't mean to have it come across as if shooting digitally was the cause for all modern films looking miserable.No problem friend. LOG is really neat since it retains all the details in the shadows and highlights, as using standard 709 for example doesn't have that flexibility (so for example, you couldn't really color grade regular auto graded video from a phone or something). So if you had footage with dark shadows pre-graded, it's baked in and any details are lost, so it's stuck as being what you see is what you get.>Or would look great if they only had somebody who could get the colors to look right.That's the real problem unfortunately. Things could look great, but people are following trends and memes. I still see some beautiful movies from time to time that are brand new but the vast majority are foreign movies, typically from Europe or Japan, where they aren't afraid to actually use color.
>>222667116They'll ban commoners from having AI sooner or later. Much like how internet was wild west before it got sterilized, AI is wild west now before they're going to start putting alot of restrictions
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>>222667836> before they're going to start putting alot of restrictions>startLOL your slop machine is already neutered to hell and back. Also it's always been low IQ brown coded trash for those with no talent. There's a reason why pajeets love that shit.
>>222665506matrix brainwashed the industry each movie gotta have colorfilters for some pseudo-artistic bullshit justification
>>222667703thing is stuff is supposed to get better with the progress of time, not worse
>>222668435The people making these films tend to be die hard progressives, or at least think heavily in a very linear form of progress. They seem to really think the medieval period was mud and toothless people running around in rags for instance and generally look down on people from the past. They genuinely think THEY are making something better than before and thus, are making progress.
>>222668435Maybe but that's not how things work, a lot of the time technology evolves in a way that makes media faster but less humane. The best looking movie has already been made and that might be true for the peaks of every medium.
>>222665506Blade Runner looks like shit now too
