>Destin Daniel Cretton would originally direct Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. When Marvel redeveloped it into Avengers: Doomsday, he dropped out. Kevin Feige then offered him Spider-Man: Brand New Day and put him in contact with Sony execs Amy Pascal and Tom Rothman, who were searching for a new director after Jon Watts from the Home trilogy declined to return, and Cretton’s pitch landed him the job.>Other directors in consideration were Ruben Fleischer (Venom, Uncharted), Drew Goddard (The Cabin in the Woods, Bad Times at the El Royale), Justin Lin (Fast and Furious, Star Trek Beyond), John Francis Daley & Jonathan Goldstein (Game Night, Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves) and Adil El Arbi & Bilall Fallah (Bad Boys For Life, Batgirl).>Writers Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers decided early on that mind control would be part of the plot. Their original choice for the villain was the Chameleon, but he was unavailable due to his appearance in Sony’s Kraven the Hunter. They cycled through several other villains like Mister Negative and the Spider Queen before landing on Jean Grey.>Tom Holland produced the film and compiled a document with everything fans had been asking for, such as a practical suit and street-level stakes, to serve as a creative guideline. He was also adamant about having a complete draft before production started to avoid the post-production issues of the Home trilogy.>Zendaya recruited Challengers writer Justin Kuritzkes to polish the Peter/MJ scenes. She also suggested that MJ get along well with the Punisher and be fascinated by his lifestyle rather than dislike him as in the original script.>Holland and Jon Bernthal are longtime friends and helped each other through their Marvel auditions. Bernthal refuses to portray the Punisher in PG-13 projects, but made an exception for Holland. Due to their natural chemistry, Peter and Frank’s dynamic changed from them hating each other to them having a brotherly rivalry.
>Holland’s first pitch for the plot was rejected for being too similar to Captain America: Brave New World. Spider-Man fighting the Hulk was moved from the third act to the midpoint for the same reason.>Before Bill Metzger, the director of the Department of Damage Control was a woman based on an obscure X-Men villain, the Leper Queen. Anne Hathaway, Nicole Kidman, Carrie Coon and Sarah Snook all turned down the role before it was rewritten into Metzger.>The Rhino, 8-Ball, Big Wheel, Paste Pot Pete and the Enforcers are among the villains that were cut from the opening montage. They developed 50 recreations of classic comics covers, but only used five.>The original ending featured Jean controlling all the supervillains Spider-Man had arrested in the opening montage into attacking him simultaneously, but it was ultimately scaled down to Spider-Man fighting DODC guards and the Hand.>The Hand had a bigger role in an earlier draft, with Silver Samurai as their leader. Cretton liked the concept of Spider-Man fighting an army of ninjas too much and kept them in as DODC enforcers.>Cretton wanted to introduce the Bar with No Name where low-level supervillains hang out, but it didn’t fit the narrative.>There were plans for a nightmare sequence where Peter turns into Man-Spider, but it was deemed too scary for kids.>In addition to Punisher, Hulk and Black Widow, Captain America and Shang-Chi were also considered to appear in the movie.>Savage Hulk would originally be grey, but the studio decided it would confuse audiences. They considered several different interpretations, some in which he walks on all four and is constantly twitching from pure rage, some in which he is eloquent and vengeful after years imprisoned in Banner’s mind, before landing on the final version.>A deleted segment of the fight has a water main breaking, and Hulk attempting to drown Spider-Man by holding him underwater, which the studio cut as it made the Hulk too villainous.
>>222671147>Zendaya recruited Challengers writer Justin Kuritzkes to polish the Peter/MJ scenes. She also suggested that MJ get along well with the Punisher and be fascinated by his lifestyle rather than dislike him as in the original script.She really needs to fuck off
>Spider-Man would originally knock out the Hulk with the Shocker gauntlet, but test-audiences thought he was defeated too easily, so they reshot it to the Hulk easily destroying the gauntlet, and attempting to kill himself after Spider-Man manages to calm him down by reminding him of their friendship.>Rosario Dawson filmed a scene as Claire Temple that was deleted from the final cut. She now runs an underground clinic for vigilantes, and Spider-Man visits her to get patched up after his fight with the Scorpion.>Another deleted scene features the doctor operating on Spider-Man after he is shot choosing to keep his mask on to preserve his secret identity. Meanwhile, the Punisher clashes with the police officers outside.>A deleted running gag featured spiders being drawn to Peter following his mutation, and following him wherever he went.>The ending scenes of MJ sitting on the school rooftop and holding the necklace Peter gave her, and Ned instinctively doing his and Peter’s handshake were filmed in a deliberately ambiguous way. MJ and Ned could have regained their memories, or MJ may simply be developing feelings for Peter all over again, while Ned connected the dots after MJ called Spider-Man “Peter” earlier.>The flashback scene of Jean and her sister Sara in the park was added in reshoots to further establish their bond. Despite Sara being the older sister, her actress is 15 while Sadie Sink is 23.>Sink revealed that there was a cut where Jean verbalizes that V-Max was just the faded sticker in the air vent of the cell where Sara died and that her actions were for nothing, but it was ultimately decided Jean’s heartbroken expression after seeing the sticker and realizing the truth got the point across well enough.>Holland revealed that they tested an alternative ending where MJ and Ned regain their memories at the studio's behest in case audiences reacted negatively to the ambiguous version they favored, but that version actually tested higher.
>>222671147Really odd that Spiderman didn't have that much trauma from Goblin killing Aunt May. I was expecting Spiderman to still have some PTSD over it. Well I guess that's the problem when you switch directors. Anyway I prefer Jon Watts Spiderman because it is much more action packed.
>>222671213>I was expecting Spiderman to still have some PTSD over it.There's too much of that shit in these movies
>>222671213It's been five years. I find it odd he still didn't get over MJ.
>crazy bitch getting people killed and mind raping them>no no no, please, I misunderstood you, powerful traumatized femoid! Let me help you!dogshit movie
>>222671213Bro was living like a hermit alone for 5 years not making any new meaningful friends that whole time. I think that was sufficient trauma >>222671252See above. I absolutely hate Zendaya but it does make sense a popular guy like Peter would have missed his friends, especially his girlfriend from back when he thought it was fine to have friends and stuff. I just hope that now that he has new friends he's able to move on from MJ(and get with Jean)
John Waller killed a terrorist and he's still a pariahJean Grey killed a man for no reason and they're just gonna hardwave that away
>>222671317How long was he actually dating Zendaya MJ? Like 3 months max? He's not into her in Homecoming
>>222671317Or Black Cat or Cindy Moon or Kitty PrydeSomething
>>222671317He won't, every time they brought up the power dampener him and Hulk could have straight look at the camera and wink. Same for DeWolf and surveillance.
>>222671317>>222671245>>222671252When Jon Watts put Venom as a cameo in NWH, I think he was trying to setup the symbiote and evil peter plot line. But instead we got man-spider plot line minus turning into a monster.
>>222671213They could have introduced Hobgoblin. Or Harry Osborn. It was weird that there wasn't an iconic Spidey villain as the main antagonist. And that Pete was okay with Punisher knowing he's a killer and with letting Jean go after all the shit she pulled. I would have expected him to try to convince her to surrender and go public with what they did to her sister.
>>222671406>Jon WattsThere's no fucking way he had any say in that
>>222671358If you have a good relationship you'll think about it for a long time after it's over, especially given the way it ended for him. Doesn't matter if you were together for only a couple months. I had a great relationship with my last ex and we had to break up for life reasons, not cuz we didn't like each other, and I still think about it semi frequently. For Peter he was forcing himself to not have any meaningful connections to people for 5 years so it makes sense he was daydreaming about when he did have meaningful connections, however brief they were. >>222671385This would be acceptable as well. They already setup Jean tho and there are fans for it. I don't really care if it doesn't follow the comics, I'm fine with them doing something new. I don't even mind if Jean is still ostensibly with Cyclops either and it's a triangle with Peter involved where Peter eventually loses, I just think it would be interesting given the setup we've already got for it
>>222671411Stop trying to cram in HarryIt already didn't work the other two times
>>222671411>>222671437I do think with the point of BND that cramming Harry in wouldn't have worked, but that being said it does sorta make sense for Harry to be introduced at some point since Peter is literally fishing for friends the whole movie and Harry is traditionally Peter's friend. The problem with Harry Osborn is that he works best when he doesn't become Goblin in the same movie he's introduced in. You need at least +1 movies to develop him into being a meaningful character in Peter's life
>>222671147Maybe I misjudged Tom Holland. I've never really enjoyed his Spiderman but I saw Brand New Day and its definitely his best portrayal.
Deleting Rosario Dawson as Night Nurse is pretty dumb.
>>222671473It's too late to introduce the college cast. That ship has sailed.Since the sequel will probably be in another five years, have him be a proper adult.
>>222671411Yep. The whole plot for BND is just weird and maybe because Disney used the movie to springboard mutants. But if Jean Grey won't be that important in Secret Wars then it's kinda pointless because the multiverse is going to be reset anyway. They may as well just wait after Secret Wars and start fresh.
>>222671213It drove his decision to live like a hermit for 4 years you retard. What more do you want, him jumping whenever he sees something green?> I prefer Jon Watts SpidermanOh Jesus I'm talking to an actual retard!
>>222671473The problem is that with introducing the Osborns tou ha e to commit to doing a green goblin again and idk if they're doing thatI guess thay the good thing is idk what the fuck they're going to do after secret wars with the universe so maybe they'll commit to doing more sony characters since they're bringing a new Tony and SteveI just want to see Peter be with Black Cat on screen for once in my life
>>222671147>There were plans for a nightmare sequence where Peter turns into Man-Spider, but it was deemed too scary for kids.some in which he is eloquent and vengeful after years imprisoned in Banner’s mind, before landing on the final version.>A deleted segment of the fight has a water main breaking, and Hulk attempting to drown Spider-Man by holding him underwater, which the studio cut as it made the Hulk too villainous.Why they erased all this? THIS WAS GOOD MAAN WHY STUPID KIDS WHO CARES THEY WATCH WEIRD VIOLENT CARTOONS ALL THE TIME STUPID KIKE
>>222671147>Bernthal refuses to portray the Punisher in PG-13 projects, but made an exception for HollandDamn! Ma be burnin local like there's no tomorrow. Respect!
>>222671642Gotta remember that Spider-Man is mostly a vehicle to sell toys to children
>>222671295>implying you wouldnt forgive an attractive woman for raping youyou might just be gay
>>222671211too bad, she's married to tom. same reason why mutt mj won't fuck off and will be the endgame instead of peter having new love interest.
>>222671687It's almost like Milla Jovovich and PT Anderson except the bitch is fugly and Holland is a retard
>>222671212wow so Daredevil was never planned to be included, not even as a reference? such horseshit considering how much this punisher has connection with daredevil.
>>222671147>Tom Holland produced the film and compiled a document with everything fans had been asking for, such as a practical suit and street-level stakes, to serve as a creative guideline. He was also adamant about having a complete draft before production started to avoid the post-production issues of the Home trilogy.damn, based
>>222671385we fucking NEED black cat in the 5th one. its insane there hasnt been a live action black car yet. just start teaching sydney sweeney how to act now and by the time production starts she will be ready
>>222671743 by the time production starts she will be bogged
>>222671295it makes sense if she was just slapped on top of a story where she was an explicit villain
>>222671147>Writers Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers decided early on that mind control would be part of the plot. Their original choice for the villain was the Chameleon, but he was unavailable due to his appearance in Sony’s Kraven the Hunter. They cycled through several other villains like Mister Negative and the Spider Queen before landing on Jean Grey.So glad Sony's stupid cinematic universe is dead. And while i liked Jean as the main antagonist, i still wish an actual Spidey villain was the main villain.
>>222671755yeah well do you see any other big titted blondes in hollywood now? and sydney is the same age as tom holland. she has a few years left, they can make her look good
>>222671743Sorry mcu peter doesn't fuck with white women
>>222671807if they fucking brownify black cat im gonna flip
>>222671807>Chase Infiniti as Black Catngh
>>222671792Wouldn't big tits look goofy when jumping and flipping around?
>>222671828Already happened once
I'm just grateful they didnt mention iron man once
>>222671836i dont know but id like to find out ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I dislike this nor Thunderbolts won't get proper sequel. Miss the times of LotR, PotC or the Matrix when the sequels were designed from the get go or at least after the first one proved to be successful.
>>222671147Because when I think of Spider-Man villains I think of Jean gray.
>>222671851disgusting.
its funny that Sony has to lose 25% of their cut just to be tard wrangled
>>222671871Blame Sony for fucking all of them up so badly
>>222671867LotR was an adaptation dumbass
>>222671893> They cycled through several other villains like Mister Negative and the Spider Queen before landing on Jean Grey.this doesn’t make sense. Since when is Jean gray a Spiderman villain?
>>222671923So is this.
>>222671147>Tom Holland produced the film and compiled a document with everything fans had been asking for, such as a practical suit and street-level stakes, to serve as a creative guideline. He was also adamant about having a complete draft before production started to avoid the post-production issues of the Home trilogy.
>>222671178>There were plans for a nightmare sequence where Peter turns into Man-Spider, but it was deemed too scary for kids.Kill kids. Behead kids. Roundhouse kick a kid into the concrete. Slam dunk a kid into the trashcan. Crucify filthy kids. Defecate in a kids food. Launch kids into the sun. Stir fry kids in a wok. Toss kids into active volcanoes. Urinate into a kids toy car gas tank. Judo throw kids into a wood chipper. Twist kids heads off. Report kids to the IRS. Karate chop kids in half. Curb stomp kids. Trap kids in quicksand. Crush kids in the trash compactor. Liquefy kids in a vat of acid. Eat kids. Dissect kids. Exterminate kids in the gas chamber. Stomp kid skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate kids in the oven. Lobotomize kids. Mandatory abortions of kids. Grind kids in the garbage disposal. Drown kids in fried chicken grease. Vaporize kids with a ray gun. Kick kids down the stairs. Feed kids to alligators. Slice kids with a katana. Pull kids apart on the atomic level. Send all kids to the most nightmarish timeline. Make inhumane viruses that only affects kids. Fill two skyscrapers with kids and recreate 9/11. Shrink kids and fry them like ants with a magnifier. Make kids watch Twilight. Mutilate kids. Goomba stomp a kid. Put lethal doses of fentanyl in kid drugs. Kidnap kids and sell them to CIA pedophile rings. Execute a kid with a desert eagle.
>>222671934Allegedly they wrote a telepath first then made her into Jean GreyUsually Jean Grey's telekinesis is what manifests first yet here it didn't manifest until later
So they hired the guy from muttdayas tennis threesome movie?No wonder this shit was written for trannies, no wonder there's so much shipping
>>222671317yo dude, thanks for posting this fanart. i was actually drawing jean today and i was struggling with drawing the messy hair and this was a great reference to use
>>222672606is it lewd?
>>222671147>>222671178>>222671212i don't give a fuck about your capeshiti just want to make out with tom holland so bad, he's gorgeous
>>222671212>A deleted running gag featured spiders being drawn to Peter following his mutation, and following him wherever he went.Kino.
>>222672606My pleasure man, check the boorus for Jean Grey as well, they have a bunch of good stuff on there. I'm in favor of more cute Jean art!>>222673262Calm down Zendaya
>new comic coming out with Hulk teamup>they are fighting the ManosphereSM comics are dead..
>>222671295She canonically didn't kill anyone.
>>222671147>Zendaya recruited Challengers writer Justin Kuritzkes to polish the Peter/MJ scenes. She also suggested that MJ get along well with the Punisher and be fascinated by his lifestyle rather than dislike him as in the original script.if this is actually true than she did a good job
>>222671324Jean wasn't a decorated military officer stepping into the shoes of America's greatest hero, wasn't illegally abusing super-steroids while on the job, and didn't brutally execute a surrendering enemy on foreign soil in front of hundreds of witnesses.
>>222671719probably would have been mentioned in the Claire scene
>>222671358>How long was he actually dating Zendaya MJ?Around two to three years.
>222671434>222671317>222673325This is an AGP troon who thinks he's a ginger girl, ironic because xhe thinks xhe can compete with troondaya
>>222671358they start dating in far from home (takes place the summer after junior year)so they are dating for about ~6 months as we see halloween decorations up during no way home.
>>222673512It was at most a year because the relationship is just from the end of ffm to nwh
>>222671609>they're bringing a new Tony and SteveThey aren't, though.
>>222673469Considering the guy before had taken the super steroids idk why that's a problemAnd killing terrorists is a good thing
>>222673625https://variety.com/2025/film/news/marvel-x-men-recasting-secret-wars-1236465269/>Marvel Plans to Recast the X-Men and (Eventually) Tony Stark After ‘Avengers: Secret Wars,’ But ‘Reboot Is a Scary Word,’ Says Kevin Feige
>>222673599This sounds about right
>>222671295The movie condemned her doing this. Doesn't mean she can't also be a victim
>>222671147>She also suggested that MJ get along well with the Punisher and be fascinated by his lifestyle rather than dislike him as in the original script.So shes the one who ruined what shouldve been the best bit of the movie because dangerous guys make her tingle. I bet she sends her panties to inmates.Jean Grey shouldve tried to enter Punisher's head, then started screaming like a madwoman and immediately noped right the fuck out of there.
>>222671317>>222671434You know this is a real piece of Spider-Man media when autists start shipping Spider-Man with a problematic female character
>>222671295yup it's going to become the MSheU with how Jean is set up to be the leader of the all woman and LGBTQ X-Men team
>>222673703>autistsTrannies or women, that's who "ships" characters and celebrities
>>222673664>Eventually
>>222673736Well, that's 100% of 4chan (previously 4channel) then
>>222671680>>222673383>>222673673Don't you have a grieving father to go yell at on tiktok?
>>222673633>the guy before had taken the super steroidsThe government allowed him to.
>>222673750I didn't say the recasting would happen nowJust that who knows who the MCU will contain since they will bring those guys back
>>222673664Don't reboot it you fucking retard just recast the goddam character. Treat it like James Bond, we all know the backstory just get on with the next fucking adventure.
>>222673701>Jean Grey shouldve tried to enter Punisher's head, then started screaming like a madwoman and immediately noped right the fuck out of there.Go away, Ennis.
>>222673762If you hate getting response maybe don't write up some dogshit about your tiktok drama you have or whatever schizo stuff this is about
>>222673791There are no plans to reintroduce them now. Anthony Mackie is sticking around, and we'll see what they do with the Iron Man legacy characters they have.
>>222673815shut up simp go back to consuming your tranny twitter fan edits
>>222672917well she is wearing clothes
>>222671317Looked up the artist. Insanely based individual
>>222674047Whomst
>>222673383>tank rolling through the street shooting and crashing into things seemingly at random>gets man hit by car for no reasonattempted nurder at the BARE minimum
>>222673673>i caused irredeemable harm to people but hey I'm also a victimthe prisoner said while serving his time
>>222673469>wouldnt you think of the poor terrorist murderer retard
