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home edition
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watch your backside
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Why did Martin write a 13 yo to be raped by a warlord
Why did Martin write a teenager to be kissed by a man in his 40s
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>>222677843
Bloodraven is literally Elric.
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>>222680265
Il est - how do you say - un pedophile.
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>”Do," said Catelyn, but when the girl was at the door, she thought of something else. "Jeyne," she called after, "there's one more thing Robb needs from you, though he may not know it yet himself. A king must have an heir."

>The girl smiled at that. "My mother says the same. She makes a posset for me, herbs and milk and ale, to help make me fertile. I drink it every morning. I told Robb I'm sure to give him twins. An Eddard and a Brandon. He liked that, I think. We . . . we try most every day, my lady. Sometimes twice or more." The girl blushed very prettily. "I'll be with child soon, I promise. I pray to our Mother Above, every night."

>”Very good. I will add my prayers as well. To the old gods and the new."

>”When the girl had gone, Catelyn turned back to her father and smoothed the thin white hair across his brow. "An Eddard and a Brandon," she sighed softly. "And perhaps in time a Hoster. Would you like that?" He did not answer, but she hadnever expected that he would. As the sound of the rain on theroof mingled with her father's breathing, she thought about Jeyne. The girl did seem to have a good heart, just as Robb hadsaid. And good hips, which might be more important.
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>>222680315
>We fuck every day, mother. Sometimes more than twice!
Why did Martin write this
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>>222680223
Remember what Rhaenyra took from you
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Kinslayer...
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Babe killer!
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>>222680389
She looks ugly here
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HEATHEN!
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>>222680315
One thing I do miss about Cat chapters are the evaluations of every woman's hips within 100 yards of her current position
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>>222680425
She’s br*tish. They all have that look.
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>>222680315
>"My mother says the same. She makes a posset for me, herbs and milk and ale, to help make me fertile. I drink it every morning
Catelyn should've suspected treachery this very instant and summoned Sybell Spicer to drag her by the hair to Robb and make her confess what kind of fuckass shit she was putting in the tea. Why didn't her gut alarm her there, didn't she go through the revelation that Hoster did the exact same thing to Lysa a few chapters back?
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>>222680452
I bet she was turned on when thinking about Jaime fucking Cersei
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>>222680470
only working class ones
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>>222680452
Cat's pregnancy fetish was hot. Ned was a lucky man.
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>>222680479
Tywin and Sybil definitely want to have control over Robb’s heir.
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>>222680501
>he really thinks le pure normano-germanic bloodlines exist
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>>222680479
The future Stark line being descendants of Maggy the Frog was just too good to be true. Unless…
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>>222680303
Tree fag is nowhere near as cool.
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>>222680540
They’re already descended from a kinslaying wildling rapebaby. Might as well throw in some Essosi witches blood.
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>>222680539
there is a certain working class english woman phenotype that is common that the helaena actress has, that’s all I’m pointing out
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>>222680611
It’s fake and even if it was real it was consensual
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>>222680508
They want him to have no heirs. If the book ever comes out i hope it is revealed that Jeyne is pregnant and Robb's child survives against all odds.
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>>222680397
>>222680417
Bold Jon Roxton could’ve taken a dragon for himself had he not slipped after killing Hugh Hammer.
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>>222680672
*The next book i mean.
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>robb’s unborn son
>jon
>brandon
>rickon
>sansa
>distant cousins in the vale
Who has the most legitimate claim to Winterfell?
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>>222680479
>that Hoster did the exact same thing to Lysa
What did he do?
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>>222680672
The child is just another hostage/bargaining chip to cuck the Norf with.
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>>222680303
If bloodraven was Elric then that would mean he’s responsible for destroying the Targaryen dynasty (based if true)
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>>222680732
Ramsay Bolton until someone wins it by conquest
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>>222680762
They wanted Tyrion to impregnate Sansa and have their child rule Winterfell, after they get married Robb draws up a will and makes Jon his heir
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>>222680732
Robb's son. Its simple as.

Next would be Bran, then Rickon.
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>>222680223
> Hightowers got cucked out of Highgarden even after the Tyrells sided with the loyalists and lost.
Kek, once a cucktower always a cucktower I guess...
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>>222680732
the mudspawn are disqualified so it's either Jon or Benjen
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>>222680797
I don’t believe Tywin thought that plan was actually going to work. Was Sansa going to actually stay up there or be held hostage somewhere else long term?
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>>222680881
The Hightowers with Highgarden and the Reach would be more powerful than the king
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>>222680881
There's really no point to having Highgarden when you already have the greatest city in Westeros.
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>>222680949
is there any case where the most powerful house of a kingdom is not the paramount/warden.
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Why did George write Dany taking a shit? She is a beautiful valyrian girl.
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>>222680935
>Lord Tywin steepled his fingers beneath his chin. "Balon Greyjoy thinks in terms of plunder, not rule. Let him enjoy an autumn crown and suffer a northern winter. He will give his subjects no cause to love him. Come spring, the northmen will have had a bellyful of krakens. When you bring Eddard Stark's grandson home to claim his birthright, lords and little folk alike will rise as one to place him on the high seat of his ancestors. You are capable of getting a woman with child, I hope?"
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>>222680881
>they only control the greatest city in the known world outside of the Free Cities, what cucks
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>>222680738
After Littlefinger got fucked up in his duel with Brandon, while he was injured Lysa slept with him and got pregnant. Hoster forced her to finger Moon Tea(or something like that) to get rid of the baby. Hoster then married Lysa off to Jon Arryn to hide the scandal. Whatever concoction Lysa was forced to drink caused her fertility issues later in life resulting in Sweet Robin being a milk drinker.
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>>222680972
Depends what you mean by “powerful”. Certainly most of the Tully vassals are more powerful than the Tullys but the Tullys have loyalty. You could argue that the Manderlys are more powerful than the Starks. The Hightowers are more powerful than the Tyrells.
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>>222680980
Beautiful Valyrian girls shit just like the lowliest slaves. And sometimes they mount the pale mare and shit themselves to near death. That's life.
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>>222680963
> red temple
why is that at the stronghold of the faith?
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>>222680732
Karstarks
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>>222680995
They kneel to upjumped stewards lol. They got cucked.
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>>222680972
the Freys are explicitly more powerful than the Tully's own personal fiefs, the Hightowers are implicitly as strong or stronger than the Tyrells
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>>222680738
>It is a monstrous cruel thing to lose a child," she whispered softly, more to herself than to her father.
>Lord Hoster's eyes opened. "Tansy," he husked in a voice thick with pain.
>He does not know me. Catelyn had grown accustomed to him taking her for her mother or her sister Lysa, but Tansy was a name strange to her. "It's Catelyn," she said. "It's Cat, Father."
>"Forgive me . . . the blood . . . oh, please . . . Tansy . . ."
>Could there have been another woman in her father's life? Some village maiden he had wronged when he was young, perhaps? Could he have found comfort in some serving wench's arms after Mother died? It was a queer thought, unsettling. Suddenly she felt as though she had not known her father at all. "Who is Tansy, my lord? Do you want me to send for her, Father? Where would I find the woman? Does she still live?"
>Lord Hoster groaned. "Dead." His hand groped for hers. "You'll have others . . . sweet babes, and trueborn."
>He clutched her fingers. ". . . be a good wife and the gods will bless you . . . sons . . . trueborn sons . . .
>That night Catelyn slept fitfully, haunted by formless dreams of her children, the lost and the dead. Well before the break of day, she woke with her father's words echoing in her ears. Sweet babes, and trueborn . . . why would he say that, unless . . . could he have fathered a bastard on this woman Tansy? She could not believe it. Her brother Edmure, yes; it would not have surprised her to learn that Edmure had a dozen natural children. But not her father, not Lord Hoster Tully, never.
>Could Tansy be some pet name he called Lysa, the way he called me Cat? Lord Hoster had mistaken her for her sister before. You'll have others, he said. Sweet babes, and trueborn. Lysa had miscarried five times, twice in the Eyrie, thrice at King's Landing . . . but never at Riverrun, where Lord Hoster would have been at hand to comfort her. Never, unless . . . unless she was with child, that first time . . .
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>>222680980
He couldn't think of a better way to show that Dany was suffering from dysentery.
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I’m confused why characters keep acting like Criston died for nothing and his fight was pointless, yet they also say him and his small band of guerillas apparently delayed the vast majority of the Black army for weeks.

Effectively this is why the blacks don’t lose. Ormund has time to fortify tumbleton and to turn Ulf because of this. If Criston hadn’t delayed them tumbleton would have fell weeks ago with Ormund and Daeron failing completely, much less revolt in kings landing, and with the majority of the black forces now gone, only Aemond and Aegon remain and they’d be completely fucked
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>>222680995
>the greatest city in the known world outside of the Free Cities
Not true, Qarth isn't a Free City and yet it is the greatest city that ever was or will be.
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>>222680972
Maybe the Greyjoys when they were elected lord Paramount by the other lords of the Iron Islands but Fire and Blood doesn’t go into much detail on how powerful they were compared to the Volmarks who claimed the kingship but weren’t able to stabilize the power vacuum left by the end of house Hoare before Aegon showed up.
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>>222680981
He’s trying to hype him up. Tyrions going to get shanked the longer he stays up there. Is the north going to follow a possible dwarf rape baby? The Lannisters are less hated than actual traitors like the boltons, Freys, and dipshits like the ironborn but Joffrey still had Ned beheaded so that hatred still burns white hot.
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>>222681085
Why the greens don’t lose I mean
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>>222681022
In terms of military and claim. The winter kings defeat the red kings and barrow kings and dominated the north. Between the riverlords who could possibly raise a bigger army. It would have to be between the blackwoods, mallisters, freys or brackens right?
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>>222680881
>>222681060
Can you get cucked out of what you've never desired? Leyton is comfy up in his tower ̶p̶l̶o̶w̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶d̶a̶u̶g̶h̶t̶e̶r̶'̶s̶ ̶p̶u̶s̶s̶y̶ learning the dark arts.
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>>222680448
Orphanmaker looks like shit, they did bold jon dirty.
Also they fucked up Dark Sister clashing with it.
Hopefully Ira fixes it for the flashbacks of Bloodraven dueling Bittersteel with Dark Sister and Blackfyre.
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>>222681034
It's an amenity for sailors and merchants from Essos. A shithole like King's Landing doesn't need one because no one expects anything except for maybe a brothel, but Oldtown appeals to the souls of its visitors, not just their loins.
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>>222681108
Tywin believes all the other Starks are dead and that they’d have no choice to accept Tyrion’s son. Also that the north would be suffering from the fallout of the war, the Ironborn, and possibly the Wildlings so the “little folk” will welcome him.
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>>222681130
To be honest, all the Valyrian steel swords looked like shit compared to how they are imagined in the books. I imagine Ice as a giant 6ft blade of rippling grey steel and it just looked like any other fantaslop sword.
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>>222681130
Man, Dark Sister is so fucking ugly. Joffrey's valyrian swords were great.
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>>222681127
>the blackwoods, mallisters, freys or brackens right?
All of them plus the Darrys probably
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>>222681130
I like the simplicity of that sword, it just makes orphans nothin flashy
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I used to post here a few weeks ago lol. Those were the days. Cant believe some of you nerds are still here talking about nothing.
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>>222680972
The Tyrells by definition are not the most powerful house in the Readh

A) the Gardeners ruled the reach from Highgarden for thousands of years, having slowly subjugated the various other houses there

B) The Tyrell’s we’re just a small noble house of stewards who worked for the gardeners, after Aegon killed the gardeners he just put the Tyrell’s in charge

C) House Hightower is actually the most powerful reach house after the death of the gardeners. Arguably this is why Aegon didn’t make them Lord paramount, they were way too powerful already

House Hightower is unusually powerful for a few major reason

>one of the very few houses that has a major city (Oldtown)
>is also a port city with a lot of ocean trade
>before the high septon moved to kings landing, the starry sept in Oldtown was the seat of the faith and the high septon. This only changed when Baelor the Blessed had the great sept of Baelor constructed
>Oldtown/House Hightower is one of the VERY few banks in the entire fucking world. I can’t actually think of another Westerosi bank. Apparently braavos typically dislikes Westeros having local banks and works against it but I guess they couldn’t stop them here
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>>222681218
I come here in the offseason because it gets extremely Reddit when the shows are airing
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Huh, there was a Lawrence Roxton who was part of jaehaerys’ kings guard that’s neat. Nice lil two hit wonder house
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>>222680417
>>222680448
ACK!
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>>222681130
>Dude what should we name our family Valyrian sword an embodiment of knightly virtue that will be inexorably tied to our house
>I have just the name
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>>222681080
>She and her sister had been married on the same day, and left in their father's care when their new husbands had ridden off to rejoin Robert's rebellion. Afterward, when their moon blood did not come at the accustomed time, Lysa had gushed happily of the sons she was certain they carried. "Your son will be heir to Winterfell and mine to the Eyrie. Oh, they'll be the best of friends, like your Ned and Lord Robert. They'll be more brothers than cousins, truly, I just know it." She was so happy.
>But Lysa's blood had come not long after, and all the joy had gone out of her. Catelyn had always thought that Lysa had simply been a little late, but if she had been with child . . .
>She remembered the first time she gave her sister Robb to hold; small, red-faced, and squalling, but strong even then, full of life. No sooner had Catelyn placed the babe in her sister's arms than Lysa's face dissolved into tears. Hurriedly she had thrust the baby back at Catelyn and fled.
>If she had lost a child before, that might explain Father's words, and much else besides . . . Lysa's match with Lord Arryn had been hastily arranged, and Jon was an old man even then, older than their father. An old man without an heir. <...> He needed a young wife if House Arryn was to continue . . . a young wife known to be fertile.
>Catelyn rose, threw on a robe, and descended the steps to the darkened solar to stand over her father. A sense of helpless dread filled her. "Father," she said, "Father, I know what you did." <...> "You made him take her," she whispered. "Lysa was the price Jon Arryn had to pay for the swords and spears of House Tully."
>Small wonder her sister's marriage had been so loveless. The Arryns were proud, and prickly of their honor. Lord Jon might wed Lysa to bind the Tullys to the cause of the rebellion, and in hopes of a son, but it would have been hard for him to love a woman who came to his bed soiled and unwilling.
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So what was the point of setting up the Aemond betrays Aegon plot, I don't think it amounted to anything
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>>222681391
Sorry for multiposting, George's writing is too kino
>"We'll send her away, then. Back to King's Landing, if you like." He took a step toward them. "Let her up, now. Let her away from the door."
>"NO!" Lysa gave Sansa's head another wrench. Snow eddied around them, making their skirts snap noisily. "You can't want her. You can't. She's a stupid empty-headed little girl. She doesn't love you the way I have. I've always loved you. I've proved it, haven't I?" Tears ran down her aunt's puffy red face. "I gave you my maiden's gift. I would have given you a son too, but they murdered him with moon tea, with tansy and mint and wormwood, a spoon of honey and a drop of pennyroyal. It wasn't me, I never knew, I only drank what Father gave me . . ."
>"That's past and done, Lysa. Lord Hoster's dead, and his old maester as well." Littlefinger moved closer.
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>>222681130
Oh yeah, they'll DEFINITELY fix that.
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>>222681332
Cool iconic and funny death
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>>222681332
>dies because he was literally murdering Hugh and his shitty guards so badly he slipped on spilled out entrails
pretty BASED
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>>222681431
It will lead to his redemptive self sacrifice arc
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>>222681636
>>222681670
See, if he wasn't a raping green chud he would've magically regained his footing because Gurm would've turned off the nature's laws for his sake and made him live to his 90's.
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>>222681851
Living to an old age is for boring faggots like corlys velaryon
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I actually think Aegon the unworthy legitimized his bastards because he loved them rather than to spite Daeron. If I were him and wanted to spite Daeron there was way more I could’ve done in his position.
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>>222681937
You don’t have to rehabilitate Aegon IV to like Daemon Blackfyre, you know. Or maybe you do.
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>>222681976
If he really wanted to spite Daeron he could’ve wed Daenerys to Daemon. Daeron’s plans for rapprochement with Dorne by marrying his sister to the Prince of Dorne get ruined and Daemon’s claim to the throne looks more legitimate.
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>>222682140
I think he was planning to. He suggested to Daemon he can have two wives, implying that he can marry Daenerys later. But then he dies and Daeron takes over. If Egg IV lived a bit longer we would have Daemon with oldschool Valyrian marriage
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>>222681150
But he’s not going to shed too many tears if someone shanks Tyrion. He may have them hunted to the ends of planetos but he will be happy.
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what makes valyrian steel so great
it's just steel in the end
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>>222682355
Death magic sacrifices
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>>222682355
never needs sharpening
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Which Stark is going to end up with Joffrey's reforged sword?
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I just want to hold Alicent and tell her everything’s gonna be alright.
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Always thought it was odd they framed Daerneys as Daemon's great love but that didn't stop him from having like 15 kids with his wife.
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>>222682766
They don’t frame her as his great love
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>>222682794
>"Daemon's supporters would later claim that Daemon had desired to marry his younger half-sister, Daenerys"
>"There are some who say that it was the wedding of Princess Daenerys to the Dornish Prince Maron Martell that led to the First Blackfyre Rebellion. It was said that Daemon rebelled because she had been denied to him by Daeron."
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>>222682693
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>>222681626
Ira will DEFINITELY fix that.
Have HOPE.
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>>222682883
Uh... it's political manipulation, he grooms her to gain power, but then he backs out, atleast in the show.
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>*teaches your kids some Boarnish*
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>>222683210
Ira just admiting when he fucked up and forgot important tidbits is refreshing. Condal should take notes.
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>>222682991
why he touch his peepee when watching alice
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>>222683406
plotting
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reddit colony thread
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>>222683423
Was this scene absolutely necessary?
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>Once, so tormented she could not sleep, Dany slid a hand down between her legs, and gasped when she felt how wet she was. Scarce daring to breathe, she moved her fingers back and forth between her lower lips, slowly so as not to wake Irri beside her, until she found one sweet spot and lingered there, touching herself lightly, timidly at first and then faster. Still, the relief she wanted seemed to recede before her, until her dragons stirred, and one screamed out across the cabin, and Irri woke and saw what she was doing.

>Dany knew her face was flushed, but in the darkness Irri surely could not tell. Wordless, the handmaid put a hand on her breast, then bent to take a nipple in her mouth. Her other hand drifted down across the soft curve of belly, through the mound of fine silvery-gold hair, and went to work between Dany's thighs. It was no more than a few moments until her legs twisted and her breasts heaved and her whole body shuddered. She screamed then. Or perhaps that was Drogon. Irri never said a thing, only curled back up and went back to sleep the instant the thing was done.
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Pretty sad that there are no real castles like the fugazi ones in GOT
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>>222683520
>and went to work
"went to work"? that's you're going to write an erotic scene? way to kill the mood
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>larys and varys
> literally the same goddamn character
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>>222680223
The ending of got really isnt that bad.
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>>222683551
Thats why it's called fantasy ya dingus. These things cant exist in real life.
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>>222683638
well, not with that attitude
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>>222683638
Sounds like a cope to me
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>>222683658
>>222683677
You realize how expensive castles are to upkeep?
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How did George go from writing a kino homo pedo edgelord like Lyn Corbray to some cringe edgelord like Darkstar?

>Sansa: My father is always pleased to be of service to one of Lord Robert Arryn's leal bannermen. I'm sure he would be most delighted to help broker a marriage for you as well, Ser Lyn.
>Lyn: How kind of him. But what need have I for heirs when I am landless and like to remain so, thanks to our Lord Protector? No. Tell your lord father I need none of his brood mares.

>Petyr: Ser Lyn will remain my implacable enemy. He will speak of me with scorn and loathing to every man he meets, and lend his sword to every secret plot to bring me down.

>Sansa: And how shall you reward him for this service?

>Petyr: With gold and boys and promises, of course. Ser Lyn is a man of simple tastes, my sweetling. All he likes is gold and boys and killing.

>Myranda: Do you think if I asked nicely Ser Lyn would kill my suitors for me?

>Sansa: He might, for a plump bag of gold.

>Myranda: Alas, all I have is a plump pair of teats. Though with Ser Lyn, a plump sausage under my skirts would serve me better.
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>>222682766
Had they been wed Daemon Blackfyre would’ve given Daenerys half again the amount of children.
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>>222683753
Him and Oberyn should’ve fucked
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>>222683210
omg my twinky boi prince !!
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What did Dany mean by this
https://litter.catbox.moe/5czu7klasq6lw4th.mp4
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>>222683875
there's no way that out of all the people she dated no one asked her to cosplay as Dany
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>>222683737
Of course. I'm an expert.
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>>222683946
I wonder if she would be willing to do that lol.
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>>222683875
DANY NOOO
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>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
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>>222683992
the fuck is this AI slop
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>>222684010
DANY YEESSSS
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>>222684052
Heres something real for ya
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>>222683737
Can’t be more expensive than the Dallas cowboys
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>fabian is dating a lady named Olivia
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>>222684095
Damn, those pics are old, I remember this from about +10 years ago.
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If HBO could afford to make those castles I don’t see how Germany couldn’t make one
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>>222684357
I’d jizz if she stared at me like that
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>>222684357
Those titties are poppin
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>>222684357
meds won
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what does dragon meat taste like
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>>222684440
Chicken
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>>222684440
Salty sand and bags of milky coins.
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>>222684440
Chicken
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>>222684404
walled
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>>222684440
wypipo don’t season dey dragon
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>>222682355
Sharp as a razor blade, doesn't lose its edge and is a little lighter.
And according to legends, the blade is supposed to start burning against the Others but the showrunners have toned down the fantasy aspect.
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>>222684440
reptiles allegedly taste like chicken with a weird texture
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>>222682355
it’s magic steel
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>According to Maester Pol, the spells required to rework Valyrian steel involve blood sacrifice, including that of infant slaves.[13]
wtf
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>>222684565
Take that racist conspiracy shit >>>/pol/
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>>222684565
>>222684599
LMAO
They say that the Qohorik smiths eat the foreskins of children to power their wicked magics…
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>according to maester the maestro
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>according to ((((maesters))))
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>>222684357
Why is she like this
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>>222684565
They actually kicked him out of Qohor when he discovered that, the children's souls are also trapped inside the blade, the swords are "alive".
>And then Qhorin's sword was coming at him and somehow Longclaw leapt upward to block
>Oathkeeper was alive in her hands. She had never been so quick.
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>>222684710
Meds. Now.
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>>222684357
I'd have a raging boner if a baddie looked at me like that.
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Black people call em Maessas
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>>222681391
>>222681542
these are great additions to the threads, keep it up if you have the interest to
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Maester P
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>>222684710
Yep. Nissa Nissa. Valyrian steel is tempered and quenched in the hot blood of the living instead of cold water. And by that I mean it’s literally plunged into a living person instead of a bucket of water.
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Magic is alive.
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>muh magic sword
kinda gay, ngl
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>>222684943
Only if two Valyrian swords touch tips. Yes. Ancient Valyrian poems were written about how gay it was.
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>>222684751
Maester Pol spent many years of residence in Qohor, investigating the secrets of their blacksmiths for his treatise on Qohorik metalworking. He was thrice publicly whipped, and cast out for making too many inquiries. The final time, his hand was also cut off, per the allegation he had stolen a Valyrian steel blade. According to Pol, the true reason for his final exile was his discovery of blood sacrifices—including that of infant slaves—which the Qohorik smiths use in their efforts to produce a steel equal to the original Valyrian steel.
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>>222681542
>>222681391
>>222681080
Damn I really need to re-read the books, I really must've been young and retarded when reading these for the first time. Hopefully TWOW will come out in the next few years so I can add that to the reading.
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>>222685039
>Hopefully TWOW will come out in the next few years so I can add that to the reading.
...
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>>222684884
Let’s kill it
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>hedge knight
>onion knight
>rainbow knight
like San Francisco
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>Tommen returned to his seat to nibble at an applecake. Her uncle's seat was empty. The queen finally found him in a corner, talking intently with Mace Tyrell's son Garlan. WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT? The Reach might call Ser Garlan gallant, but she trusted him no more than Margaery or Loras. She had not forgotten the gold coin that Qyburn had discovered beneath the gaoler's chamberpot. A GOLDEN HAND FROM HIGHGARDEN. AND MARGAERY IS SPYING ON ME.
>When Senelle appeared to fill her wine cup, the queen had to resist an urge to take her by the throat and throttle her. DO NOT PRESUME TO SMILE AT ME, YOU TREACHEROUS LITTLE BITCH. YOU WILL BE BEGGING ME FOR MERCY BEFORE I'M DONE WITH YOU.
>"I think Her Grace has had enough wine for one night." she heard her brother Jaime say.
>NO, the queen thought. ALL THE WINE IN THE WORLD WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TO SEE ME THROUGH THIS WEDDING.
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>>222685039
>Hopefully TWOW will come out in the next few years
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why would you expect punctuality from a guy named “Hard R” Martin
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>>222685149
>BRING ME THAT MYRISH WHORE SO I CAN RAPE HER AND SEE WHAT ROBERT FELT.
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>>222684710
Daemon did speak about Dark Sister's thirst for blood needing to be sated.
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>King Aegon III and his lady wife, Queen Daenaera of House Velaryon.
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this post disgusts me
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Why can't we get kino like this huh? It's always boring clothes and boring crowns (that's it WHEN we get crowns), Kings and Queens repeating the same outfit or just black leather because medieval ages means no color to hollywood
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>>222685785
Taking the black shouldn’t even be a euphemism for joining the night’s watch in the show’s lore because everyone wears nothing but black in later seasons of GOT.
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>"I know I want you," he heard himself say, all his vows and all his honor forgotten. She stood before him naked as her name day, and he was as hard as the rock around them. He had been in her half a hundred times by now, but always beneath the furs, with others all around them. He had never seen how beautiful she was. Her legs were skinny but well muscled, the hair at the juncture of her thighs a brighter red than that on her head. Does that make it even luckier? He pulled her close. "I love the smell of you," he said. "I love your red hair. I love your mouth, and the way you kiss me. I love your smile. I love your teats." He kissed them, one and then the other. "I love your skinny legs, and what's between them." He knelt to kiss her there, lightly on her mound at first, but Ygritte moved her legs apart a little, and he saw the pink inside and kissed that as well, and tasted her. She gave a little gasp. "If you love me all so much, why are you still dressed?" she whispered. "You know nothing, Jon Snow. Noth—oh. Oh. OHHH."
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poppa bear?
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>>222686790
She's so pretty
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>>222686828
SHE? they/them!
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>>222686790
looks like my aunt yuck
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>>222686861
no I'm talking about the character so I can say she
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>>222686786
>and he was as hard as the rock around them.
Why would Martin write something so clumsy?
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>>222686828
>>222686861

>>222686881
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>>222686790
I have never wanted to breed a woman as bad as I want to breed this bratty dyke.
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>>222681671
It will led to him choosing Alys.
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>no more pussy sniffing
Bros...
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Tywin has no aura in the books
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My wife Elinda Massey
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>>222688350
Massey bros when’s our guy Justin coming back from Braavos with those sell swords?
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>>222685785
You vill like the brown and muddy outfits and the brown and dark and blue color grading
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>>222680303
Well no, Elric is kind of cool.
Bloodraven is just the cooldsteel version of Elric for people with speech impediments and watery eyes.
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>>222680452
>bad breeding stock could be here, she thought
>I have never made the company of the daughters of this house before
>I must take their hip measurements and consult Maester Schmid's Atlas on Bones
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>>222683753
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>>222683753
Shut up bitch. Darkstar is based. And you, much like Lyn Corbray have a penchant for plump sausages.
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POPPA BEAR!
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DAEMON BLACKFYRE, MY FUCKING KING!
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I recently AKOSK for the first time. While it was pretty good, I'm pretty pissed that they decided to insert a 20 minute flashback in the middle of the trial episode. The Arlan bit was good, the one with the girl was really boring.
I also don't remember Dunk getting as much punishment in the book, it feels like it would take way more time to recover from that, possibly even dying. And yeah, they could have shown way more combat by other characters.
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>>222680265
>Why did Martin write a teenager to be kissed by a man in his 40s

I met my last GF when she was 19 and I was 33. Found out later she's a V-Tuber.
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>>222690625
that's nowhere as bad
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>>222690604
The stuff with the girl felt pretty pointless. Dunk didn't need added motivation to intervene when Aerion was torturing the puppet gal.
The Blackfyre rebellion tibits made the flashback worth it for me and I hope we get more in the upcoming season.
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....semoc eH
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>>222683563
Anon, it's literally just work for Irri. She's a servant and a borderline slave who was given to Dany to serve her. It's an illustration of Dany's hypocrisy: she presents herself as the great liberator, yet she sees no issue with using her semi-enslaved servants as sex toys.
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>>222680223
Home
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>>222690625
In case this is real, I have to ask - did you fuck during a stream?
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>>222690031
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>>222690910
Yes, several times.

Believe me or not but a lot of V-Tubers treat it as a challenge/rite of passage - fuck while on stream so that nobody watching notices.
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bear poppa ...
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>>222690864
I've wasted quite a lot of time wondering if Irri regarded it as a privilege. I hope not.
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Why didn't Genna and Tywin just throw Emmon Frey off the top of Casterly Rock, or accidentally sit on him?
Were they fucking stupid or something?
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>>222690031
Target practice
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>>222691510
Superstitious. That would definitely qualify as "kinslaying".
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>>222691510
Lannister ties to House Frey did end up becoming useful for them later, so it was good for them that they didn't do that.
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>>222680397
>>222680417
>>222680448
>beats the shit out of Daemon easily
i'm starting to think Daemon won't conquer Essos
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>>222684404
mogs rhaenyra
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>>222685039
>Hopefully TWOW will come out in the next few years so I can add that to the reading.
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>>222690826
!on ,on ,oN
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>>222691510
don't remind me of the lucky life of Emmon Frey
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>>222690031
He was a better man.
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The last time time George did anything for the adaptions was when he wrote an episode in 2014, The Lion and the Rose. Since then HBO has given him in excess of 50 million dollars and he hasn't had a single writing credit on GOT, HOTD and Dunk. 12 years.
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Get up /got/
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>>222694118
No wonder he hasn't finished Winds. Grrm seems like one of those people who can only be productive as a starving (heh) artist.
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>>222694121
Poor Criston got raped
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>>222694237
Yes and I don't understand why so many don't understand that. I would also do the same if given so much money btw.
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>>222694263
>I would also do the same if given so much money btw
Me too, most people would. And I'd kinda respect him more if he just came out and said that, but maybe he doesn't want to admit it to himself.
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>>222694237
He's a narcissist. He hasn't had anything to do with that TV adaptations besides showing up for photos ops. He can blog about how busy he is but none of the show runners in 12 years can pinpoint anything he's actually done. Imagine what a nightmare production would be if George was a show runner.
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>>222681175
What's the deal with House Darry anyways? They were pretty close to the Targs before Robert's Rebellion and seemed to be doing well, but then their entire house gets wiped out and all someone needs to get their lands is to put a ring on some Frey whore. Maybe George wanted to do more with them and then decided not to?
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>>222680369

Not even close to the most over the line shit hes written. sunrise found her shitting on the grass and Im pretty sure there was an early chapter from winds where Arya fucks some guy in the docks or something.
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>>222694699
>early chapter from winds where Arya fucks some guy in the docks or something.
WHAT
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>>222694699
>Im pretty sure there was an early chapter from winds where Arya fucks some guy in the docks
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>>222685310

Cersei turning into Robert was incredibly entertaining. And when she got fat from wine she assume the Tyrells were sabotaging her dresses.
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did alicent just have post-partum psychosis?

that would explain why she wants to murder her children
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>>222680503
She was practically begging for a 6th kid in one of her first chapters, if shit hadn't gone sideways she probably would have had at least 3 more kids before she hit menopause
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>>222684502
Alligator tastes like fishy chicken and has a similar texture.
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>>222694713
The "Mercy" chapter excerpt
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>>222680223
Highgarden doesn't look like that
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>>222684710
>>222684565

Ya the black valyrian steel swords are made with blood magic. Most magic requires blood sacrifice after the long night. As opposed to white sword like dawn and like the white swords Danys dream emperors are holding. Even Weirwood/warg/greenseer shit is done with the trees and they drink blood. Whited trees with bloody hands.
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valyarian steel is just titanium (lighter than steel, more durable, darker grey color)
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A salty dornishwoman, a stony dornishwoman, and a sandy dornishwoman walk into an inn.

The innkeeper says:
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>>222694849
Dog says: 'I can't see a thing. I'll open this one'
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA GOTTEM
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>>222685039

George is never pushlingshing another book. The people who work for him might shit out more word building stuff but probably not even fire and blood 2. Youll be lucky is the fat fuck puts out some outlines for dunk and egg.

The only reason he went back to writing and started this shit is because he could not get jobs in tv anymore. He stopped caring about the books when he could get involved in tv bullshit again. And that was decades ago. Hes too old to pick it up again now. He will never admit this because it would cause people to lose interest in the tv projects. Hell he might be contractually obligated to not admit it.

Its over anon. Time for acceptance and healing.
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>>222680223
>>222694829
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>>222694818
well? post it
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>>222695027
Need her to jack me off while she has this expression the entire time
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>>222694260
Valyrian girls like to rape first men.
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>>222685039
Oh you sweet summer child...
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>>222685039
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>>222685730
Have you considered having the post thrown from the battlements or crushed under a anvil dropped from a great height, sire?
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>She never saw how the skinny man got over the wall, but when he did, she fell on him with Gendry and Hot Pie. Gendry's sword shattered on the man's helm, tearing it off his head.
>Underneath, he was bald and scared looking with missing teeth and a speckly, grey beard. But, even as she was feeling sorry for him, she was killing him, shouting "WINTERFELL! WINTERFELL!".
>While Hot Pie screamed "HOT PIE!" beside her as he hacked at the man's scrawny neck.
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Why no one respects the Seven, bros?
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>>222686786
It's insane how often Ygritte repeats "You know nothing, Jon Snow." She probably says it 40 times. GRRM is a fat hack.
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>>222694735
what the fuck
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>An animal handler named Harghaz attacks Drogon with a long spear, and comes close to slaying him.
lol, Drogon almost dies to a pigherder and people saying the storming of the Dragonpit is too much
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>>222694121
A brutal sexual assault on Ser Criston.
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>The serving girls tried to talk to her when they brought her meals, but she never answered them. Once Grand Maester Pycelle came with a box of flasks and bottles, to ask if she was ill. He felt her brow, made her undress, and touched her all over while her bedmaid held her down. When he left he gave her a potion of honeywater and herbs and told her to drink a swallow every night. She drank it all right then and went back to sleep.
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>>222696812
In fairness Jon Snow is a bit a of a gormless idiot.
I wouldn't be able to go 5 minutes in his company without commenting on his cretinism either.
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>Her aunt had brought only three ladies with her, so they pressed Sansa to help them undress Lord Petyr and march him up to his marriage bed. He submitted with good grace and a wicked tongue, giving as good as he got. By the time they had gotten him into the tower and out of his clothes, the other women were flushed, with laces unlaced, kirtles crooked, and skirts in disarray. But Littlefinger only smiled at Sansa as they marched him up to the bedchamber where his lady wife was waiting.

>Lady Lysa and Lord Petyr had the third-story bedchamber to themselves, but the tower was small … and true to her word, her aunt screamed. It had begun to rain outside, driving the feasters into the hall one floor below, so they heard most every word. "Petyr," her aunt moaned. "Oh, Petyr, Petyr, sweet Petyr, oh oh oh. There, Petyr, there. That's where you belong." Lady Lysa's singer launched into a bawdy version of "Milady's Supper," but even his singing and playing could not drown out Lysa's cries. "Make me a baby, Petyr," she screamed, "make me another sweet little baby. Oh, Petyr, my precious, my precious, PEEEEEETYR!" Her last shriek was so loud that it set the dogs to barking, and two of her aunt's ladies could scarce contain their mirth.
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>>222686786
>the hair at the juncture of her thighs a brighter red than that on her head.
>I love your red hair.
What did he mean by that?
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>>222697005
Damn, Littlefinger must have been packing
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>>222687928
Patently untrue.
>Every once in a very long while, Lord Tywin Lannister would actually threaten to smile; he never did, but the threat alone was terrible to behold
That alone is a cooler image than him smirking constantly in the show. People are consistently in awe of him, even his enemies respect him. And he's stone-cold when Tyrion catches him with his pants down and points crossbow at him.
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>>222697052
Damn i want to throatfuck this ironborn uggo. I bet she can suck the golf ball through a garden hose. And her face is built for dickslapping :3
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>>222697065
>Her shaggy mop of red hair stuck out in all directions. She looked plump as she crouched there, but most of that was layers of fur and wool and leather. Underneath all that she could be as skinny as Arya.
What did he mean by this?
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>>222697065
In the end he still wanted Cat to be his mommy.
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>>222697176
Stick her with the pointy end
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Viserys was always fucked. As Drogo is married to Dany he's likely inevitably going to get her pregnant and likely they'll eventually have a boy. And at that point why bother pressing Visery's claim when Drogo can either press his son's or his own wife's
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>>222697141
That’s from Tyrion’s POV. He has zero aura.
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Catelyn's description of Lysa as a happy girl full of dreams just like Sansa hits right in the feels.
The worst part is that she would have been ground down by world in a different way even if the Lannister marriage had materialized.
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>>222697199
Well he could’ve at least stayed in Pentos. But he’a fucked either way because Dany won’t he able to hatch her eggs and Illyrio will probably arrange an accident for him.
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>>222697005
>so they pressed Sansa to help them undress Lord Petyr
Which is exactly what Littlefinger wanted, that sick fuck.
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Why is even Dany's endgame even if she claims the throne? blood magic has made her infertile so her bloodline dies with her
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>>222697241
If he stayed I doubt he's seeing any of them again. And Dany might still be able to hatch them, Drogo still dies, she still sacrifices Mirri and all that. I guess Illyrio could have had him murdered but he could have had him murdered long before and still been able to marry Dany off. I wonder what if Viserys joined the khalsassar and actually made a serious effort to be a respectable Dothraki warrior
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>>222697200
Read nigga, read!
>People are consistently in awe of him, even his enemies respect him
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>>222697284
Gets IVF from Oldtown, duh. Or just appoints a successor.
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>>222697284
>"When she woke, gasping, her thighs were slick with blood."

>"When she brought her fingers to her face, she could smell the blood on them. Am I dying? Then she saw the pale crescent moon, floating high above the grass, and it came to her that this was no more than her moon blood. If she had not been so sick and scared, that might have come as a relief. Instead she began to shiver violently. She was bleeding, but it was only woman's blood. The moon is still a crescent, though. How can that be? She tried to remember the last time she had bled. The last full moon? The one before? The one before that? No, it cannot have been so long as that."

>"As she splashed her face, she saw fresh blood on her thighs. The ragged hem of her undertunic was stained with it. The sight of so much red frightened her. Moon blood, it's only my moon blood, but she did not remember ever having such a heavy flow."

She literally has a miscarriage. She only believes she can’t have children because that’s what the witch told her. Judging by her governing abilities thus far I doubt she’s considered her succession.
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>>222697284
Longwaters legitimism. Remember the creepy old jailer from the Red keep? He's getting crowned.
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>>222697226
I get the same feeling sometimes when thinking about hypothetical alternate version of my life where i didn't commit any of my grievous fuck-ups. One way or another, something would make me miserable. Or i would.
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>>222697065
>>222697192
He looks just like Ned did when he was young. I could see it happening.
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>>222697311
Yeah, it’s from the perspective of his dwarf son with a complex who is constantly seeking his approval. You always need to peel back a layer of bias and see things for what they are. He had NO aura, minuscule compared to Charles Dance.
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How is Jorah even able to communicate with Varys in a timely fashion and also not be spotted by the Dothraki?
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>>222687928
I watched the show first so I imagine everything he does being acted by Charles Dance which gives him aura.
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>>222697176
George is still totally doing Jon x Arya
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>>222697350
>The Celtigar/Longwaters civil war killed billions
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>>222697282
>When Sansa finally looked up, a man was standing over her, staring. He was short, with a pointed beard and a silver streak in his hair, almost as old as her father. “You must be one of her daughters,” he said to her. He had grey-green eyes that did not smile when his mouth did. “You have the Tully look.”

>”I’m Sansa Stark,” she said, ill at ease. The man wore a heavy cloak with a fur collar, fastened with a silver mockingbird, and he had the effortless manner of a high lord, but she did not know him. “I have not had the honor, my lord.”

>Septa Mordane quickly took a hand. “Sweet child, this is Lord Petyr Baelish, of the king’s small council.”

>”Your mother was my queen of beauty once,” the man said quietly. His breath smelled of mint. “You have her hair.” His fingers brushed against her cheek as he stroked one auburn lock. Quite abruptly he turned and walked away.
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>Khal Viserys of the Dohtraki Sea
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>>222697297
I don’t think she’d be able to hatch them without Viserys dying first .
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>>222697476
>SHANSHA YOU LOOK POSITIVELY DELICIOUS LIKE YOUR WHORE OF A MOTHER
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>>222697499
Do you mean practically or magically? For magic we have no idea but I suppose he may not have wanted them put on a pyre and burned (not that I think they would be burned to cinders that he couldn't still sell them) and that Dany perhaps wouldn't have decided to kill herself because she had nothing left.
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>>222697377
Catelyn, Stannis and Robb his dwarf sons? He's a goddamn final boss for them.
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>>222697529
Magically, we don’t really know what contributed towards the them hatching but certainly I think Viserys dying did, either directly through his sacrifice, or indirectly through altering Dany’s psyche
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>>222697340
Or maybe she has a miscarriage because the curse makes her incapable of carrying a pregnancy to term. Whether she's infertile or not, if she can't have living children, it's the same in practice.
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>>222697582
Maybe, maybe not, too much in the realm of conjecture.
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>>222697583
Well has she tried again? Has she tried growing a pair and carrying a baby to term without sobbing and crying and pissing blood? How does she expect to rule a continent if she can't even do that?
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>>222697545
Tywin is just an abstraction to them to be defeated. And I don’t recall them ever saying they were quaking from the sheer aura he had. Baelon doesn’t attack the Lannisters because he thinks Tywin is too smart but Baelon is just retarded and that was just an excuse to fuck the Starks from George. Whenever Tywin actually appears in the books he isn’t very authoritative, and is some level 1 crook compared to Dance
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>>222697630
>How does she expect to rule a continent if she can't even do that?
Ah the S3 Rheanyra plotline, it's like poetry, it rhymes.
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>>222697583
I guess, but I feel the “I can only birth dragons” mentality she has is clearly foreshadowing some sort of relationship with Jon
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So you guys stay here all day complaining about inanity?
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>>222697340
>>222697583
>"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."
Notice that Mirri never said she will never have a dead child. Only that she won't bear a living one.
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>>222697397
Arrive to a market town, speak to a bunch of traders like most people at the market do, one of them just happens to carry the message to Varys. Nothing suspicious about that.
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>>222697693
>a new sword of the morning is proclaimed/ Brienne (blazons her arms with a sun) bears a Lannister child in the westerlands
>Quentyn dies in the east - check
>Davos becomes a teetotaller and/or land crab
>the mountain is cremated
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>>222697367
There’s some tinfoil that Robb’s will stipulated that Jon marry Catelyn to maintain the Riverlands alliance
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THE QUEEN OF DA NORF
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>>222697952
>heh, btw the North is independent now but Dorne is under Bran
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>>222697952
THE QUEEN OF DA RAPE
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>>222697005
The way Lysa has complete control over the Vale is unrealistic. There would still be power blocs like the fucking Royces which she wouldn’t able to ignore even if she’s regent. And all the suitors clamouring for a woman who had a dozen or so pregnancies. They would want revenge for Jon Arryn as much as the northerners did for Ned.
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>>222697973
>hey liberty inclined Iron Islanders, you live under a totalitarian psychic police state now, please comply
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>>222697997
*dozen or so failed pregnancies

I guess because the Arryns are basically extinct so they think they can marry her and essentially claim the Vale for themselves?
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>>222697997
Isn't the popular story in the Vale still that Jon died from old age?
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>>222697952
poor Edmure
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huh there are a bunch of cringe images about this actually
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>>222698044
>2019 was 7000 years ago
Time to die
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Why did DA NORF immediately chimp out and seek independence the moment Bobby was boar'd? Something tells me these disloyal cunts never respected the crown
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>>222698044
If I was Edmure I’d have strangled her and slapped her twice, backhand then fronthand.
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>>222698001
didn't Yara try to argue for independence then just agree to be in Bran's version of Minority Report with no disagreement after Sansa or Arya said something witty?
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>>222697997
Story would be resolved too easily if the Vale were aligned with the anti-Lannister factions as they likely would be. It's another plot (in)convenience like the Greyjoys raiding Northern fishing villages with a population of 30 instead of the rich Lannisport, or the Dornish doing fucking nothing during the war despite hating the Lannisters and being presented with a fantastic opportunity to take revenge on them.
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>>222698025
Why wouldn’t the North send ravens
>YOUR LIEGE LORD JON ARRYN WAS MURDERED BY LANNISTERS AND LYSA TULLY FLED FOR SAFETY
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>>222698075
>just escalate the situation with no evidence bro, the last civil wars were so much fun
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>>222698070
I remember there being something but I think I'v successfully managed to erase most of the bad parts of the show from my memory so I shan't go back and check
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>>222698084
They need the Vale tho they have to do what they must
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Speaking of Tywin, I love the Lannister family squabbling. Most entertaining family by a country mile.

>Jaime laughed. He is no help at all. Does he think this is amusing? The queen slapped the water angrily. "Must I send for Pate? You do not command me. I am your mother."

>"Yes, but I'm the king. Margaery says that everyone has to do what the king says. I want my white courser saddled on the morrow so Ser Loras can teach me how to joust. I want a kitten too, and I don't want to eat beets." He crossed his arms.

>Jaime was still laughing. The queen ignored him. "Tommen, come here." When he hung back, she sighed. "Are you afraid? A king should not show fear." The boy approached the tub, his eyes downcast. She reached out and stroked his golden curls. "King or no, you are a little boy. Until you come of age, the rule is mine. You will learn to joust, I promise you. But not from Loras. The knights of the Kingsguard have more important duties than playing with a child. Ask the Lord Commander. Isn't that so, ser?"

>"Very important duties." Jaime smiled thinly. "Riding round the city walls, for an instance."

>Tommen looked close to tears. "Can I still have a kitten?"

>"Perhaps," the queen allowed. "So long as I hear no more nonsense about jousting. Can you promise me that?"

>He shuffled his feet. "Yes."

>"Good. Now run along. My guests will be here shortly."

>Tommen ran along, but before he left he turned back to say, "When I'm king in my own right, I'm going to outlaw beets."

>Her brother shoved the door shut with his stump. "Your Grace," he said, when he and Cersei were alone, "I was wondering. Are you drunk, or merely stupid?"
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>>222698044
I'm doing this the next time I see my gen A sisters, but shortening nuncle to unc.
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>>222698120
>"I was wondering. Are you drunk, or merely stupid?"
Both!
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>He could never bear to be long apart from his twin. Even as children, they would creep into each other's beds and sleep with their arms entwined. Even in the womb. Long before his sister's flowering or the advent of his own manhood, they had seen mares and stallions in the fields and dogs and bitches in the kennels and played at doing the same. Once their mother's maid had caught them at it . . . he did not recall just what they had been doing, but whatever it was had horrified Lady Joanna. She'd sent the maid away, moved Jaime's bedchamber to the other side of Casterly Rock, set a guard outside Cersei's, and told them that they must never do that again or she would have no choice but to tell their lord father. They need not have feared, though. It was not long after that she died birthing Tyrion. Jaime barely remembered what his mother had looked like.
What would you do if they were your kids?
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>>222698120
Beets didn't exist back then, how does George get away with such anachronisms?
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>>222697476
At some point he's going to have to decide whether he wants to fuck Sansa or have her be his daughter.
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>>222698201
Demand to join them for a threesome and when they find it weird show them how it's weird them doing it so they should stop.
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>>222698073
Didn’t the Greyjoys believe they could conquer the north though? They use the King in the North title
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>>222697909
Based Robb.
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Today I will remind them.
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>>222698266
Balon's decision to invade the North was mostly a kneejerk revenge thing because Ned turned his son into a faggot and he felt offended by Robb's letter. An alliance between the North and the Iron Islands, like Robb suggested, would've been the best option for both.
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>Perhaps Stannis Baratheon and the Starks had done him a kindness. They had spread their tale of incest all over the Seven Kingdoms, so there was nothing left to hide. Why shouldn't I marry Cersei openly and share her bed every night? The dragons always married their sisters. Septons, lords, and smallfolk had turned a blind eye to the Targaryens for hundreds of years, let them do the same for House Lannister. It would play havoc with Joffrey's claim to the crown, to be sure, but in the end it had been swords that had won the Iron Throne for Robert, and swords could keep Joffrey there as well, regardless of whose seed he was. We could marry him to Myrcella, once we've sent Sansa Stark back to her mother. That would show the realm that the Lannisters are above their laws, like gods and Targaryens.
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>>222698218
Nowt wrong with doing both
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>>222698266
That's just as stupid, they couldn't hold on to any of the castles they took and that's with the North having lost many of its fighting men.
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>>222698328
Wasn't Joffrey also disgusted by the incest rumors?
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please bake new, your passages are wasted on a dying thread
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>>222698342
If they hold Moat Cailin they’re good, no? All the fighting age men are down south
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>>222698328
>once we've sent Sansa Stark back to her mother.
Jaime’s so honorable.
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>>222698378
>Talks about marrying his children together immediately before
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>>222698369
>>If they hold Moat Cailin they’re good, no?
But they didn't.

>All the fighting age men are down south
Not all, and Moat Cailin is much easier to take from the north.
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>>222698120
Jaime's talk with his aunt Gemma always makes me sad when I read it. Even Tywin could've been very different in luckier circumstances.

>It has been hard for Kevan, living all his life in Tywin’s shadow. It was hard for all my brothers. That shadow Tywin cast was long and black, and each of them had to struggle to find a little sun. Tygett tried to be his own man, but he could never match your father, and that just made him angrier as the years went by. Gerion made japes. Better to mock the game than to play and lose. But Kevan saw how things stood early on, so he made himself a place by your father’s side.”
>“And you?” Jaime asked her.
>“It was not a game for girls. I was my father’s precious princess . . . and Tywin’s too, until I disappointed him. My brother never learned to like the taste of disappointment.” She pushed herself to her feet. “I’ve said what I came to say, I shan’t take any more of your time. Do what Tywin would have done.”
>“Did you love him?” Jaime heard himself ask.
>“His aunt looked at him strangely. “I was seven when Walder Frey persuaded my lord father to give my hand to Emm. His second son, not even his heir. Father was himself a thirdborn son, and younger children crave the approval of their elders. Frey sensed that weakness in him, and Father agreed for no better reason than to please him. My betrothal was announced at a feast with half the west in attendance. Ellyn Tarbeck laughed and the Red Lion went angry from the hall. The rest sat on their tongues. Only Tywin dared speak against the match. A boy of ten. Father turned as white as mare’s milk, and Walder Frey was quivering.” She smiled. “How could I not love him, after that? That is not to say that I approved of all he did, or much enjoyed the company of the man that he became . . . but every little girl needs a big brother to protect her. Tywin was big even when he was little.” She gave a sigh. “Who will protect us now?”
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>>222698416
They didn’t because it was attacked from the north. They could feasibly repel an invasion from the south.
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>>222698328
I like how Jaime is one of the purest characters in the story, incest and all. He has ever loved only one person never slept with anybody else.
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>>222698344
Pretty sure that's a show only thing, although it's a good change, adds some depth to his character. In the books, he's entirely convinced Bobert is his father.
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>>222698457
yeah i'm pretty sure he would've gone ape shit if they revealed the truth to him
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>>222698435
Yes, and they could be attacked from the north, which they were, because there were fighting men in the north.
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>>222698120
Does he think about telling Tommen that he's his father like in the show?
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>>222698489
He tells Myrcella, and intends to tell Tommen, but never gets around to it.
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>>222698475
That’s after the Red Wedding where the Boltons have the backing of the throne and Victarion leaves with virtually all of his garrison. We never got to see the Ironborn hold out against an invasion from the north. And if Theon never takes Winterfell the invasion would look totally different.
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>>222698533
>>222698533
>>222698533
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>>222698517
>And if Theon never takes Winterfell the invasion would look totally different
If Theon never takes Winterfell, then Rodrik Cassel's army doesn't get smashed outside the walls of Winterfell, and the North can better organize its defense. Things would not go better for the Ironborn.
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>>222698551
You don’t think Theon sacking Winterfell and freeing Ramsay was to the detriment of the invasion?
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>>222698369
Moat Cailin is such a good name.



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