uuuh bros.... what happened with capeshit fatigue???
Jean Grey pussy is just that good
>>222760081In the USwhat about the rest of the world?
People still care about FAMOUS superheroes like Spidey, Wolverine and Batman
fake numbers
>>222760166>BatmanHis last movie underperformed
>>222760171Authentic cope.
>>222760162what about it
How do you fucks get so excited for capeslop? Same movies over and over again.
>>222760243this one has a qt redhead
>>222760081Capeshit fatigue was caused by all the woke shit being pushed in the last twenty mins of endgame and the following phases after. It started slowly with people agreeing Sam was a terrible choice over Bucky as Cap's successor. Ramped up slowly with stuff like Dr. strange getting literally and metaphorically cucked in his own sequel and then got really bad with Love and Thunder. Antman 3, secret invasion, she hulk, iron heart these were the straws that broke the camel's back and got people to check out hard. I personally was done after Moon Knight because of how hard they fucked up the tone of that character
>>222760162spodermon is the most popular comic character worldwide and has been for decades.
>>222760304you really care a lot about talking about that to brown teenage boys from outside the us aka the userbase. whatever helps you wageslaves during your working hours im sure
>>222760081He who casts Zendaya wins.
>>222760344>Wow is this an on topic post? Kek salty little bitch
>>222760344but youre talking to the userbase too
>>222760393That's just a libtard who's mad the hard push for woke shit got rejected and now they have to settle for things being surface level woke
>>222760192I guess it didn't beat Endgame worldwide
>>222760134I have to admit, mutant pussy is the best and Jean got the chinese making videos of her with Peter. Asia LOVES SpiderPhoenix【【虫琴日常EP1】满足你对虫琴CP的期待-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/8LgDbGj
>>222760081Those who bless Zendaya, will be blessed Those who curse Zendaya, will be cursed.
>>222760389I legit get angry when I see effortposts on /tv/.
>>222760472Zenda...who? Its all about the Sadie nowHer name is funny, reminds me of Marquis de Sade, wonder if she's as degenerate in private kek
>>222760081It's impossible because it has Zendaya, race swaps, and a tranny, ergo Sony is buying tickets.
>>222760517race swaps?
>>222760134How hairy is it? In universe it seems Jean is a hobbo so probably smells quite strong. God I want a telepathic hobbo psycho gf so badly, anon!
>>222760497Odyssey one billie, chud. Dunc 3 will make a billie too.
>>222760490>Barely a paragraph that took essentially zero real thought is effortposting Damn maybe learn to read then
Manifesting Peter X Jean into reality
>>222760593yes despite of her
>>222760081inflation?
>>222760081Try to understand the difference between tickets sold and revenue. Then try to understand inflation.
BREAKING NEWSSPIDERMAN: THE RETURN OF GLUP SHITTOHAS OUTPERFORMEDAVENGERS: THE GRUNGLEMAN!!!!WE ARE SO WINNING BOT-BROS!!!!
>>222760691Since people are too dumb to understand this graph I wrote up a guide last time.
>>222760593Who gives a fuck? Zendaya is old and busted. I predict Tom will drop her like the aging potato she is and get a newer more sexy model.And that will be a good thing. Are we returning to modern family values? Sadie Sink is so cute, so much better looking.
>>222760134Correct and based.
>>222760722They look like siblings desu, they have the brother sister chemistrg
>>222760462They're so perfect together, that's why the based asians are making videos and pics of them en masse while the decaying West keeps trying to push miles and make gwen pass, even though she'll NEVER PASS.That's why China is the world superpower now, they're all spiderphoenix chads.
>>222760081>what happened with capeshit fatigueBND was dramatically better than pretty much every Marvel movie, not just post-Endgame. Do one story really well and people will watch it, leave "the connections" as aspects of one story and don't make these things $15 a piece episodes of a show that MIGHT end up being something cool 8 years down the road
I don't get it. Endgame was this massive event as it was the conclusion of a saga running for 11 years, but this is literally just another Spiderman movie.
>>222760797East Asians really like spiderphoenix, even Japanese who don't care about foreign movies like itOn the other hand here in SEA MJ+Tom is still the most popular, know many femcels here who post on Twitter defending Zendaya while saying Jean is for Scott>t. Filipino
>>222760796Even BETTER!>>222760849They fired all the woke slop writers and got BASED Kishimoto from Naruto fame to write the story and Jean and Peter's relationship. They got the army of fujos behind it, there was no way it would fail.
>>222760691>>222760713what point is this trying to make>it doesnt count!!! less people are seeing these movies!!yes, because tickets are more expensive. the more expensive something is, the less people buy it. why should this count against recent movies? why isnt anyone saying "yeah no shit millions of people saw these old movies, they were basically giving the tickets away"?
>>222760182don't understand why they're stopping everything for those nolan rehashes
>>222760819Basically this. Its a skill lost to modern Hollywood and something only the asian mind can pull off. No wonder manga is also kicking comic books ass as the west keeps trying to make Gwen Stacy trans while the asians got high quality storytelling.
>>222760722Funny to see Sadie pretending to be all prim and innocent when her boyfriend streamed that she liked to rim his asshole
>>222761080Damn hot
Mauler seething and farting>>222760849Spidey is just that beloved and they actually made a movie that isn't Iron Man Jr with him, had an alive feeling NYC again, had good swinging and fight scenes, and doesnt feel like it's shot like a Netflix comedy but like an actual movie. It had problems but the base was actually solid this time in a way that resonated with people without them really realizing how much that was missing in the other Tom movies
>>222761163Its all thanks to based Kishimoto
>>222760081Turns out it was just "female and minority fatigue". White males dominate at the box office.
>>222760182It was a bit woke, thoughnestly.Between the remark about White privilege, the all White gang doing the knockout game (with the exception of the negro that is uneasy about it), the final act being about prevent 4channel from assassinating the black female mayoral candidate, and race swapping Jim Gordon, it's really no surprise the movie did poorly. The sequel needs to do better.
>>222761208Idk who that is and havent watched Naruto but I'll believe it
>>222761208what is this meme about
>>222761270He is the author of Naruto and he was asked for help in designing Jean and Peter's relationship. He says he based it on Naruto trying to save Sasuke from his rage and hate in the ninja arc and from there he developed it using Lucy and Natsu's relationship in a shonen I haven't watched called Fairy Tail. I don't know what that one's like as I mostly watch seinen anime.
>>222761297>He is the author of Naruto and he was asked for help in designing Jean and Peter's relationship.how did this possibly happen
>>222761297Proof?
>>222761401It seems they FINALLY realized Hollywood has lost touch on what normal relationships are like.>>222761420He is friends with the director from BND and even made a documentary togetherhttps://www.primetimer.com/features/masashi-kishimoto-appears-in-the-new-spider-man-documentary-in-an-unexpected-cameo
>>222760849>but this is literally just another Spiderman movie.For the MCU it's the first actual Spider-Man movie.The first two were Iron Boy movies and NWH was just Raimi dicksucking. The hype for this movie came from actually trying to be a Spider-Man story.
>>222761461>This time it's for WEAL
>>222761461Retard opinion. If anything this is the first Spider-Man in general that’s not actually focused on his mythos, the main villain is a fucking X-Men member
>>222761454>It seems they FINALLY realized Hollywood has lost touch on what normal relationships are like.yeah but even thenwho made the decision to approach kishimotothis is a genuine question, I want a play-by-play of his involvement
>>222761563I didn't say it was perfect. All the criticism for this movie is coming from Jean being a psychopath they just let off the hook. Reception would be even better if it was more authentic to Spider-Man.
>>222761582Surprisingly it was Tom Holland himself. Here is the scoop that was posted a while ago since /co/ has been analyzing this phenomenon for a while.
>>222760353Challengers was a box office flop because of Zendaya.
>>222761637>Destin Daniel Cretton would originally direct Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. When Marvel redeveloped it into Avengers: Doomsday, he dropped out. Kevin Feige then offered him Spider-Man: Brand New Day and put him in contact with Sony execs Amy Pascal and Tom Rothman, who were searching for a new director after Jon Watts from the Home trilogy declined to return, and Cretton’s pitch landed him the job.>Other directors in consideration were Ruben Fleischer (Venom, Uncharted), Drew Goddard (The Cabin in the Woods, Bad Times at the El Royale), Justin Lin (Fast and Furious, Star Trek Beyond), John Francis Daley & Jonathan Goldstein (Game Night, Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves) and Adil El Arbi & Bilall Fallah (Bad Boys For Life, Batgirl).>Writers Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers decided early on that mind control would be part of the plot. Their original choice for the villain was the Chameleon, but he was unavailable due to his appearance in Sony’s Kraven the Hunter. They cycled through several other villains like Mister Negative and the Spider Queen before landing on Jean Grey.>Tom Holland produced the film and compiled a document with everything fans had been asking for, such as a practical suit and street-level stakes, to serve as a creative guideline. He was also adamant about having a complete draft before production started to avoid the post-production issues of the Home trilogy.>Zendaya recruited Challengers writer Justin Kuritzkes to polish the Peter/MJ scenes. She also suggested that MJ get along well with the Punisher and be fascinated by his lifestyle rather than dislike him as in the original script.>Holland and Jon Bernthal are longtime friends and helped each other through their Marvel auditions. Bernthal refuses to portray the Punisher in PG-13 projects, but made an exception for Holland. Due to their natural chemistry, Peter and Frank’s dynamic changed from them hating each other to them having a brotherly rivalry.
>>222760081It was always bad movie fatigue like the Marvels, Wonder Womsn 1984 and Supergirl.
Not really sure what kinda hebrew trick they used to make everyone cray cray for spiderman again even rlm were sucking his dick didn't work on me though shant be watching ur gay red spandex fetish porn slap venoms fat ass bunch of queer marvel faggots slide this twitter thread
now adjust for inflation
>>222761662>Holland’s first pitch for the plot was rejected for being too similar to Captain America: Brave New World. Spider-Man fighting the Hulk was moved from the third act to the midpoint for the same reason.>Before Bill Metzger, the director of the Department of Damage Control was a woman based on an obscure X-Men villain, the Leper Queen. Anne Hathaway, Nicole Kidman, Carrie Coon and Sarah Snook all turned down the role before it was rewritten into Metzger.>The Rhino, 8-Ball, Big Wheel, Paste Pot Pete and the Enforcers are among the villains that were cut from the opening montage. They developed 50 recreations of classic comics covers, but only used five.>The original ending featured Jean controlling all the supervillains Spider-Man had arrested in the opening montage into attacking him simultaneously, but it was ultimately scaled down to Spider-Man fighting DODC guards and the Hand.>The Hand had a bigger role in an earlier draft, with Silver Samurai as their leader. Cretton liked the concept of Spider-Man fighting an army of ninjas too much and kept them in as DODC enforcers.>Cretton wanted to introduce the Bar with No Name where low-level supervillains hang out, but it didn’t fit the narrative.>There were plans for a nightmare sequence where Peter turns into Man-Spider, but it was deemed too scary for kids.>In addition to Punisher, Hulk and Black Widow, Captain America and Shang-Chi were also considered to appear in the movie.>Savage Hulk would originally be grey, but the studio decided it would confuse audiences. They considered several different interpretations, some in which he walks on all four and is constantly twitching from pure rage, some in which he is eloquent and vengeful after years imprisoned in Banner’s mind, before landing on the final version.>A deleted segment of the fight has a water main breaking, and Hulk attempting to drown Spider-Man by holding him underwater, which the studio cut as it made the Hulk too villainous.
>>222760081Now watch as they kill Peter in Avengers then wonder why the Miles movie underperforms.
>Spider-Man would originally knock out the Hulk with the Shocker gauntlet, but test-audiences thought he was defeated too easily, so they reshot it to the Hulk easily destroying the gauntlet, and attempting to kill himself after Spider-Man manages to calm him down by reminding him of their friendship.>Rosario Dawson filmed a scene as Claire Temple that was deleted from the final cut. She now runs an underground clinic for vigilantes, and Spider-Man visits her to get patched up after his fight with the Scorpion.>Another deleted scene features the doctor operating on Spider-Man after he is shot choosing to keep his mask on to preserve his secret identity. Meanwhile, the Punisher clashes with the police officers outside.>A deleted running gag featured spiders being drawn to Peter following his mutation, and following him wherever he went.>The ending scenes of MJ sitting on the school rooftop and holding the necklace Peter gave her, and Ned instinctively doing his and Peter’s handshake were filmed in a deliberately ambiguous way. MJ and Ned could have regained their memories, or MJ may simply be developing feelings for Peter all over again, while Ned connected the dots after MJ called Spider-Man “Peter” earlier.>The flashback scene of Jean and her sister Sara in the park was added in reshoots to further establish their bond. Despite Sara being the older sister, her actress is 15 while Sadie Sink is 23.>Sink revealed that there was a cut where Jean verbalizes that V-Max was just the faded sticker in the air vent of the cell where Sara died and that her actions were for nothing, but it was ultimately decided Jean’s heartbroken expression after seeing the sticker and realizing the truth got the point across well enough.>Holland revealed that they tested an alternative ending where MJ and Ned regain their memories at the studio's behest in case audiences reacted negatively to the ambiguous version they favored, but that version actually tested higher.
>>222761695Eh...Sadie's cute but to me its still Emma Stone
>>222761563More in spirit than literal comicbook lore. Generally if it's in new york, it *could be* a spiderman problem. Spiderman has plenty of villains that are technically his but aren't a key part of his personal history. Mysterio in the comics doesnt have anywhere near as direct motivation to be a Spiderman villain as he does in Far From Home. We're 4 movies in at this point and the best of those that do directly impact Peter's history were already pretty foolishly wasted. That shit does not matter, it just has to feel like Spiderman being Spiderman at this point.
>>222761297>He is the author of Naruto and he was asked for help in designing Jean and Peter's relationship.What the fuck does that mean? What fucking "relationship" do they have? They are enemies through 90% of the runtime and then decide to be friends at the very end because she goes into his mind and Aunt May says some stuff. It's almost as stupid as Martha.I like BND but Peter and Jean's relationship was in no way a highlight or handled particularly well.
>>222761722Andrew's one that got away...
>>222761735Exactly, comics canon doesn't matter provided its a good entertaining story and not some hollywood woke slop>>222761746EXACTLY. That's the difference between the american mind and the superior Asian mindset. Its a classic "enemy-to-lovers" angle so popular in k-dramas and anime. That's precisely why it resonates with the public and why people grew attached to them. Only asians understand the subtlety of human relationships while modern Hollywood is just fake relationships and power games.
>>222761722They were great and underrated.
>>222760081whatever you do dont get the dr doom oreos, Ive been shitting black for like 2 days and my asshole is sore as hell
>>222760304Sam was only a worse choice over Bucky because they completely rewrote his character to be a holier than thou social justice douche with no sympathy towards anyone he disagreed with and who started actively siding with terrorists. Bucky from pre-Endgame maybe could have worked, but he’s better off as his own character doing his own thing, it could have been an interesting idea of having a formerly brainwashed super soldier trying to take up the mantle and image of a new governments symbol of pride and hope, wrestling with his past and covert attempts by same said government to use him just like the Soviets used Bucky. But I doubt there would be a good enough writing team to do that well.
>>222761832>Sam was only a worse choice over Bucky because they completely rewrote his character to be a holier than thou social justice douche with no sympathy towards anyone he disagreed with and who started actively siding with terroriststbf Sam got virtually no character beats or development since Captain America 2 before Steve gave him the shield. The biggest failure of the falcon series was not just taking the easy opportunity to give him super soldier serum to the character could be a little less ridiculous.
>>222760081This shit smells fake reports.
>>222761876Why does Zendaya get to have a threesome while Tom has to take it up the ass by another man? Is she his handler?
I love Sadie Sink
>>222761746it's just some weeb tranny that needs relationship drama for teen girls that you're talking to, i think he wants to be fucked by Tom Holland
>>222761682Also and this was only in the japanese version of the movie, they had a famous group make a song for the ending and gave them advanced access to only 2 scenes from the movie. They didn't say which ones but its clear at least one of the scenes was "You have me" given the lyrics they chose>I know love through knowing loneliness>Using all five senses, saving you>Means saving me too>After all, we're just people connecting >Beyond an "I-I-I-I love you">I'm not alone anymore>Clear the darkness by being upbeat>I hold your words in my heart, yeah >(Beyond an "I-I-I-I love you")>(I'm not alone anymore)>(Clear the darkness by being upbeat)>And when the wounds in my heart have already started to hurt>What will you save with this sacrifice?>It's all completely inevitable>My righteousness lies here>Breathe, be aware>That the cruel pain of living has a meaning>While believing at the same time>That nothing can be done>And I fight again today>Take me by surprise>I just keep myself updated>I sing and swing in the rain>I hold your words in my heart>A dream of a person wrapped in a cocoon>Shaking hands with hope>Looking in the mirror once again>At a brand new me>Beyond an "I love you">I'm not alone anymore>Clear the darkness by being upbeat>I hold your words in my heart>Take me by surprise>I just keep myself updated>I sing and swing in the rain>I hold your words in my heart>Beyond an "I love you", ooh>I'm not alone anymore
>>222761940stop outsourcing your trolling to AI
>>222760081>2026>genuinely the twilight of the Hollywood>capeshit is failing>people barely go the the theater>streaming services are about the buy the fuck out of big studios>...>suddenly>Obsession is the most profitable movie in decades>Odyssey is the highest grossing rating R movie>Brand New Day is the highest grossing US movie and approaching top3 the highest grossing movies ever madei'm not saying that Hollywood is trying to attract the audience by lying to them about movies becoming trendy (so everyone must go and watch them too), but it surely does look suspicious.
I love shipping! :3
>>222761940Here's the song for those interested. Its really good!https://youtu.be/UZ4an60Zmvc
>>222761967>Is it possible I was wrong about something?>No, thousands and thousands of people across multiple industries and agencies must be in a conspiracy to trick me.this kind of "thinking" absolutely ruined this site and the internet at large
Jean Grey is in my favorite show!
>BND BO thread>immediately swarmed by forced Peter x Jean faggottryDisney employees arent the bright folk.
>>222761906>>222761970>>222762004holy fucking obsessed, please seek christ at once
Because people will eat everything they throw at them and it's trendy.I came out of the cinema and a lot of people that were talking about the movie haven't watch a single Marvel film. So they barely understood what they watched but "liked" it anyway.Same thing happened with The Odyssey. We have only one Imax in my country and you could always just go to the webpage and buy a ticket for any screening. With this release, every single function was full weeks in advance. People will do what other people, or media, tell them to.
>>222762182Unlike the odyssey that was forgotten that same week, this movie remains strong. Because of the character relationships and since it was more street tier, it doesn't need you watching 10+ movies to understand the gist of it. The strength is in the character dynamics, or as anon first posted, the Jean puss is too strong
We need more cute gingers.
>>222762016Explain how following Jesus Christ contradicts wanting a black man and a ginger woman to be happy together.
Won't pic related just reclaim its crown a little later anyway?
>>222761270>believe it
That is one sink I simply could NEVER resist pissing in.
>>222760081>capeshit fatigueit was never capeshit fatigue it was glup shitto literal who character fatigue
>>222762551She can pop her prolapsed anus in and out at will
>>222762551She seems like the kind of girl that rides anal reverse cowgirl and says>Wow, look - it's like I'm shitting your dick out over and over again
>>222762600>>222762615You're all wrong, Sadie is an anal virgin! VIRGIN I SAY! Because she prefers the male anus >>222761080
>>222761967Obsession felt authentic to people, especially zoomers. The characters talked and acted like people they might know in real life, that's why it hit so hard.Brand New Day we've covered, it's Spider-Man.Odyssey is the weird one. I guess there are more Nolan fans out there than we expected, at least audiences expected it to be kino.The future of Hollywood is going to be all about pandering to zoomers, but it has to be authentic or it will bomb so maybe more young people will be writing now.
>>222760866>SEAYep. Fucking SEA zoomers seethe when people ship the two and call them larpers.
>>222762641>Odyssey is the weird one. Nolan is the last blockbuster director, where a large chunk of the population will go see a movie solely because it's a Nolan movie. He has created a reputation of making big, entertaining, well-crafted blockbusters to the point that Oppenheimer, an R-rated 3 hour movie about people talking in grey rooms made like a billion. And as long as people go to his movies and leave them having had a good time, this will continue.Spielberg used to be like this, but he has had way too many duds in his later years. Tarantino, Scorsese or Wes Anderson also have director draw, but they're obviously much more niche than Nolan.
every thread about thisd movie is just how much money it made, nothign about the content of the movie itself, so i will assume its forgettable slop just released in a very good window
>>222760081>what happened with capeshit fatigue???never existed in the way people pretendevery two years there is some big capeshit that everyone goes and watches anyway like spiderman, deadpool, superman, etc.
>>222760081>What is inflation
>>222762820>forgettable slop just released in a very good windowJust like the Odyssey.
>>222760182The lengths they went to to make that film look like a success was unreal>40% hike in ticket prices, to the point they delayed the film to push through the "premium">Inflation at a historic high>2 for 1 tickets>Keeping it in cinemas 3 weeks longer than any other film WBD put out>STILL haven't disclosed the true budget Honestly the Hollywood accounting for this film must be fucking MENTAL
>>222760691WBD and Paramount were the ones pushing this through hard btw and they're about to become a single entity
>>222762913didnt see either of them, wont until high quality rip onlinethe only spiderman movie im interested in is spiderverse 3
>>222760849Modern movies are just a wasteland of awful woke trash so normies normally don't go out to see them. Thing is, normies love movies, they love doing the thing that everybody else is doing, they love how easy it is for movies to make them feel good inside so normies really want to see movies.So when a movie comes out with the potential to not be a flaming piece of shit it triggers a herd reaction and they all go out to see it together, and even though even nomies hated the movie, they still accept it, because all the marketing and their parasocial relationships tell them it's the best thing ever.It's interesting to see just how much trash normies will watch before even they are broken and stop going forever, if it's even possible. It's like watching the CIA try to break captives by showing them Zendaya's filmography.
>>222760081Every kid in the world is begging their parents to take them to see this shit multiple times, and it still won't beat Gone With the Wind's numbers.
When are we getting the VOD rip?
>>222760081Gunn just sucks
>>222762995If you like spiderman enough to be into spiderverse id just go see this bro, saying as someone who did not care for the other tom holland movies but likes spiderverse and the raimi movies a lot. It'll at least wanna make you shoot webs for a few days
>>222760182No, it didn't, last batman film last almost 3 hours and 30 minutres, so it has less "showing" in every theathre.
>>222760583>and redhead
say YES to redheads in entertainment
>>222760081>new blockbuster movie made more money than blockbuster movie from 7 years agoUh, yeah.
>>222763551This so much
>>222763514Batman making less than Dr. Strange is definitely underperforming. Pretty drastic too considering the gap in general popularity between those two characters
>>222763585What's your point? It's gross profit.
>>222762896>production cost hasn't increased at allI guess Hollywood has become way more efficient in managing budget and doing more with less. Who knew?
>>222763755>What's your point? It's gross profit.>t. 64 IQ Mozambican>>222763263
>>222760722Tom is a fag and Zendaya is his beard. If they separate, it's because Zendaya is tired of this arrangement and wants a real man in her life.
>>222760081People underestimate mainstream audiences.It's like everyone saying FIFA, Madden, CoD etc. are dead every year.
>>222763929So no movie in the last 90 years matters? Stupid nigger.
>>222763930>Tom is a fag and Zendaya is his beard.True.
>>222763968All that's being said is the line will always go up. These records will always be broken as tickets get more and more expensive.
>>222760081Spiderman and Barman are immune to it.
>>222760497She gives off subby aura. The kind of girl who loves being spanked, licked, and railed.
why are you guys so cynicalit's a good movie and spider-man has been the #1 superhero for like 50 years
>>222760081BND is the best film about superheroes since the dawn of mcuslop so no wonder
>>222764048You mean like 99% of all women?
>>222761080Qrd on what the boyfriend said? Also why would he not rim her asshole instead? And what movie is your mp4 rel from?
>>222763999You're talking as if non-premium ticket prices today are like $30 when it was $9 seven years ago. There are far fewer moviegoers today than before the plandemic. The average price hike of standard tickets doesn't cover the smaller foot traffic.
>>222760699kek
>>222761244Sequel is going to be even more woke since they basically got away with it this time.
>>222760890>BASED Kishimoto from Naruto fame to write the story and Jean and Peter's relationshipWhat kind of stupid fake shit did you read off Reddit LMAO what is this nonsense
>>2227616828-Ball bros...We missed our chance at the big-time
>>222764059no? he only became the #1 hero because of the MCU. it was superman, then batman in the 80s until mid 2010s then spiderman with tom.
>>222761297I highly doubt this, I'm sure he did his part but I doubt BND used much of it, if any. At least for the romantic aspects (as if the movie did any of that between Jean/Pete, they just left it open ended) and the character of Jean. Jean is way too underwritten as it is just going off of BND, imo.>>222761454>Hollywood has lost touch on what normal relationships are likeAnd their solution for that was to turn to... anime? Again, I doubt it.>>222761940So they literally made a shipper cut for the Japanese. Kinda kino desu>>222761746True>>222761780This makes it sound like Asians are just shippers. Of course enemies-to-lovers story can be good but there wasn't much of that in BND, they left it too open ended.
>>222760171fake economya billie isn't what it was when Endgame came out
>>222764346literally what are you talking aboutbefore the MCU, the top three heroes were spider-man, batman and superman. pretty much in that order. and, of particular relevance here, spider-man was a very, very solid #1. you could make arguments for batman or superman being #2, but nobody could argue spider-man #1 because his comics, his cartoons, his merch, his cultural presence was just in a league of his own
>>222761461It's too little though imo, we're mostly seeing setup the whole movie, down through the ending, and we barely get to see Pete be spidey on his own at all, we just hear that he is and see that NYC loves him. >>222761295Look, I'm not a Zendaya fan by any means but I have to wonder if anyone has actually seen the films she's in. She is pretty bad in Dunc but I think more of the blame for that goes to Villeneuve. She has quite a bit of range in her other performances.>>222762201Odyssey is still doing numbers, what is this revisionism? And you don't need to have seen anything beforehand.>>222762820>>>/co/ does love it tbf.>>222762995Based, they will prob fuck it up but still.>>222764068How so?
>>222764346>Spider-Man 1Budget: 139 milBox Office: 826 mil>Spider-Man 2 Budget: 200 milBox Office: 797 mil>Batman BeginsBudget: 150 milBox Office: 375 mil>The Dark KnightBudget: 185 milBox Office: 1 BilWhy are MCU shills the biggest scumsucking faggots on the planet. Go ask for more money and maybe the quality of your shill posts will improve.
>>222764321Shippers tend to be schizos, understandable since being obsessed with a fictional pairing requires a high degree of mental illness
>>222760699That's what this all really is, opiates for retards. I get having fun, but corporate has to be cracking their ass up at the goyim lining up at the trough to feed on this slop.
>>222763968>DURR MONEY NUMBER IS ALL THAT MATTERS>DUUUUUHHH WHAT DOES ACCOUNTING FOR INFLATION MEAN?>DUUUHHHHH, WHAT'S NUMBER OF TICKETS SOLD MEAN?>DUUUUUUHHHHHHH, WHAT'S PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION WHO SAW IT IN THEATERS MEAN??Absolute fucking niggerbrained kikeslave.
>>222764507why does inflation only count against recent movies why can't I say "no wonder every retard saw gone with the wind, the tickets were basically free"
>>222760891>what point is this trying to makethat despite breaking records every 6 months the movie business is shrinking not booming
>>222762282>Women love non threatening low quality female because it's not w competition to themWater is wet.It why they also love defanged effeminate men.
>>222764346The Raimi movies are often credited with being the first of the modern superhero movie trend even though Singer's X-Men came out 2 years earlier. Even when there are objectively bad Spider-Man movies, they still make lots of money. It was the MCU which benefitted from people liking Spider-Man, not the other way around. You think Marvel's own film production would've started with Iron Man and Avengers if they still had Spider-Man and X-Men at the time? Then I wonder why no one bought the film rights. The MCU made those big names (for now), but Spider-Man has been near the top basically since he was created, and he will still be popular after the MCU has simply ended, while Thor, Cap and Iron Man will just go back to their pre-MCU popularity.
>>222762639NTA but every redhead I've ever been with has been an anal freak. I've no idea why but they all loved it and one could only cum from her ass.
>>222764367>And their solution for that was to turn to... anime? Again, I doubt it.Anime is the best source of hetero pairings left, at least until they destroy it too.A shame it was Kishimoto and not some fuji, otherwise we would get graphic sex scenes between Peter and Jean
>>222760134fpbp
>>222760462>Give Spiderman a redhead gf as God intended>Movie breaks the bankPottery
>>222764940Maybe but Hollywood would never allow that for a tentpole blockbuster, that interest is too niche and they wouldn't want to change the rating so kids can't go. and honestly I think anime/manga screw up romance and relationships just as much as Hollywood, it's just that like Hollywood, the ones they get really right are kino.Also apparently this Kishimoto thing never even happened.
>>222764934>one could only cum from her assPlease tell me you're still with her
>>222760849This one easily had Hollands best performance as Peter Parker so far and he was allowed to actually be Spider-Man protecting New York instead of Iron Man's sugar baby that gets dragged around for all this space battles. Certainly wouldn't call it a masterpiece but as far as MCU Spider-Man is concerned it's the best by a wide margin.As a bonus it also let Hulk actually be the Hulk for once since fucking Avengers 1.
Iron Boy is 2smart2Bpoor, so what does he do for rent money?Crypto?Freelance web design?
>>222765048Nah, we were together for about 7-8 years but just didn't work out. Ended up marrying a latina who only let's me stick it in her ass a couple times a year but it's fine. Honestly, anal is one of those things where when it's good, it's great. But when its not, it's fuckin awful. So I'm fine with a few times a year.
>>222765260Probably freelance programmer or somethingI headcannon that Marvel NYC is actually cheaper to live in because Supervillain bullshit that can kill you or level the building you were living in happens every week.
>>222765354Damn, well at least you have a wife. I need a girl who can only cum from her ass.
>>222764571Because there aren’t a hundred clickbait bullshit articles a day about gone with the wind. Because the bullshit clickbait articles act like “breaking records” matters when the “record” is based on something that’s lost at least half its value since even 1977.
>>222765418>at least you have a wifeHell, I got better than that, she gave me a son last year. Love that little dude more than anything. Being a dad is awesome. I'll take her and him over some butt slut any day.
>>222765507I dont think sensationalist media is a recent invention
>>222765521Happy for you anon. I want kids too, but I still want a buttslut wife desu.
>>222760134Sadie Sink is overrated. Emma Stone is much hotter
>>222763930no he's not, /tv/ just parrots this shit because they can't fathom a short king getting pussy. also they wouldn't recognize a genuine relationship anyway because they've never had one.
>>222760891if less people are going to see your movie, your movie is not as good as the ones in the before timespiderman 2002 makes all of marvel look like a joke
>>222760891the intelligence of this anon is a recession indicator
>>222760081Only Batman and Spider-Man are immune to superhero fatigue
>>222765875this is retarded logica movie's quality exists independantly of how many people go to watch it. proof: ticket prices change how many people watch it. you can lower ticket prices to increase a movie's ticket sales, but lowering the price does not increase the quality of the movie.>>222765977no u
>>222762750So many SEA femcels in X self insert as Zendaya and think they can be Spidey's waifu
>>222760081It still exists outside of Spider-Man, Superman or the huge crossover finales like Doomsday.
>>222765507>*Since 2020
>>222760891>what point is this trying to makeJesus fucking Christ there's even an explainer for absolute idiots. > why should this count against recent moviesFor the same reason when people talk about streaming shows "breaking records" they always neglect to mention the best streaming shows might equal a shitty to-be-canceled show in the 90s? > no shit millions of people saw these old movies, they were basically giving the tickets awayBox office has long been a measure of performance, which is implied to be tickets sold, but is in fact NOT that, and as we've seen there's been a massive sea change in the delta between that assumption and the current state of cinemas.Consequently, when retards like you say "but they're breaking records", and then get confused when movie theatres struggle to even stay open, you can't understand the problem because you've misunderstood the difference. Theatres actually rely on the amount of punters coming in, because each chucklefuck can only buy X amount of popcorn and soda which is where they make their actual profit. Even with raised ticket prices, the downturn in audience numbers is having a real effect on the business. >>222766378>independantlyYou know what, forget you ever saw my posts.
>>222766696The only change is that movies tend to less tickets for more than in the past. Why should this be a worse indicator than before? You can just as easily argue that a movie convincing people to pay more is better to see it is a better indicator of quality.Also you're fucking shadowboxing, nobody is confused about anything. You can acknowledge that a movie is successful by how much money it manages to make and still understand the movie business is struggling, largely due to factors outside of its control.
zero cultural impact
>>222766749you know that's a real butchered ESL post so just fucking kill me, you're itching to comment on it anyways
>>222760243My girlfriend is a normie but I'm glad it gets me out of the house once in awhile
>>222760081This is astroturfed AF. No way these are legitimate numbers.
>>222764217I saw Endgame for 9$. Tickets for the new Spiderman are still $17 and this is a month later. IMAX are $22. I don't know why you are tying to act like this is some made up bullshit. Guess what, Doomsday is also going to make more money than Endgame. That's simply how these things work. Stop being tribalistic over inane shit.
Hugh Ackman
>>222760243This one has an actual story
>>222767248>Doomsday will also make 2billie >Retread RDJ corpse riding final hail Mary based on 20 failed marvel flops Only of it has spiderman in it
>>222760081There is so much post-COPEVID variables going on with things like thisFor a long time the cattle normienigger masses have been completely STARVED of bread & circuses; there is far greater time between big brand drops like "Spider-Man" and some cultural "Breaking Bad / Game of Thrones" tier TV show, that the moment some big normalnigger event like "Odyssey" happens, all the starved masses go to watch it;Because an animal that is emaciated, its bones are showing, its so hungry, rolling around like a bony horse in the mud neighing demonically for food, screams that are truly demonic sounding, then someone shoves some pig trough slop through a hole in the fence and the emaciated animal goes fucking crazyThat's the average person. The cattle masses are purposefully being starved, there is less and less variability in the masses entertainment since everything is homogeneising into one great blob for the ""modern audience's appeal"""
>>222765543Paid astroturf on this level definitely is.
>>222760134Her and Peter are a really good combo. Watch them fuck it all up.
>>222767696Feige most likely wants Jean x Scott since it is what the Zendaya fans and Western fans like
Do you think Sadie Sink has a nice butt?
>>222767729>Zendaya fanswhere?
>>222765610Why you use sins past Gwen?
I cannot explain the box office success of this movie and I don’t think Disney can either.
>>222767736She looks like an toned abs woman to me
>>222767765Trendhopping has expldoed since covid. People now treat box office or game sales like a sport so they can scream "we did it!"
Well, i guess paying messi 15 mil for that 30s ad was worth it
>>222767729>T....t....trust the plan zendayaxistersThey shot an ending where MJ and Ned got their memories back. It did horrifically bad in test screenings and they kept the one where they didn't/"maybe" And now that movie is on track to dethrone endgame as #2 highest grossing movie of all time as it just keeps making money. Spiderman is now the founding cinematic force of the Xmen according to Fiege too. They know what they have.
>>222765408Gotham must be extremely affordable then.
>>222760081So does this mean the next movie can ditch the whole shoving in cameos from other heroes? I just want to see spider-man do some spider-manning(on black cat and hobgoblin& jack o lantern).>>222760462>>222760866So do they like Spider man x Jean or do they just like Spider man x red head?
>>222767840>Spider-Man finally gets into the mutant clubNow THAT would be funny.
>>222765260Feet pics. You think Spider-man wasn't advertising his feet to Black widow #2 in the Russian bath?Also I heard there was a deleted scene where Peter worked at a deli or some shit.
>>222767892They built a genuinely good and realistic relationship based around the japanese trope of "enemies to lovers". It was cute how Jean wanted to race Peter across the city, she only truly tried to hurt him when he said he wanted Damage Control to arrest her and called her dangerous but before that it was mostly curiosity on why she couldn't control him.The japanese version even had this (love) song as an ending >>222761940 >>222761975A shame they didn't play it in american theaters.
Not surprising because all the 3rd worlders now have access to enough money to go the theaters. 3rd worlders were posting non-stop about going to watch this film all over social media, they absolutely love capeshit, they think they're fitting in with the west by watching it. It's so pathetic. It also shows you how soulless most people are on this planet.
>>222767840>It did horrifically bad in test screenings and they kept the one where they didn't/"maybe"Yeah, stripping away the impact of the last movie's end would probably piss people off.>Spiderman is now the founding cinematic force of the Xmen according to Fiege too. They know what they have.We will get a Spider-man and The X-men show like wolverine got back 2009.
>>222767961Okay but this thread is about 1st worlders in America watching the movie even more so how do you explain that
>>222768013Americans love Spiderman, and were surprised by Jean. At my movie theater they gasped in unison when she revealed her name and even one girl shouted "Awwww" when Peter said "You have me"I think it just hit all the right feel good notes.
>>222767765>MCU film post Endgame that’s not compete garbage and about a character people give a shit aboutDisney can only crack this code by mistake.
>>222768013More than half of the US is the third world.
>>222768064China and Japan also loved it, and China in particular is a first world society and a world power compared to the dying West. And they also loved it
>>222768099If China loved Peter and Jean then you can call me Wang
>>222767961yup, most thirdies now only grew up with spider man as the superhero. dc is literally alien to thirdies except india who for some reason likes the snyderverseZendaya for some reason is very popular in my thirdie country tho, many women here see her as an idol. most people here like tom x zendaya and see jean as spidey's new adopted sister>t. pinoy
>>222768099I wonder why there is so much japanese fanart of her and Peter. Maybe it's because of the whole NTR thing.
>>222767765Its easy to explain. People like Spiderman. Homecoming made over 800 million. The next film made over a billion. The next one nearly made 2 billion and now this one went over 2 billion. People like the character, its not hard to understand
>>222768207Do they though? You only ever see them talk about the money the movies made and the cameos, especially with No Way Home.
>>222767945>They built a genuinely good and realistic relationship based around the japanese trope of "enemies to lovers"So this whole time I didn't get this ship cause of a literal cultural difference. Like I don't hate it especially with Peter's crush on Zendaya kind of felt rushed in far from home and no way home.>The japanese version even had this (love) song as an ending >A shame they didn't play it in american theaters.Are we sure the Destin didn't watch the Reze movie before directing Spiderman?Also I wish they had the Japanese song ending to see my friends' and town's reaction to a Japanese song coming at the end of a Spiderman-man movie.
>>222768205>Cute white couple, one of whom is a redhead. It’s really that simple.
>>222768228Yes they do like him. You sound like a 9/11 denier. Did the planes actually hit the building? Did they though? Are you sure it wasn't all a psyop? Are the jews involved? Are the jews in cahoots. SHHPIDERS
>>222760819>BND was dramatically better than pretty much every Marvel movieThe story is painfully mediocre. It made more money because of the brand recognition boosted by No Way Home. The story is never the reason movies make money. Normalfags are retarded. You are retarded.
>>222768275Okay so trendhopping again to act like they are part of the big happy billion dollar company, got it
>>222768228No way home had 3 spider-men and the "greatest hits" villains in it while brand new day had non of that outside of punisher(who made his first appearance in The Amazing Spider-man issue 129) and made more then it. Most people(who I interact with so like friends, family, people from town&work) complains about brand new day(that aren't muh palantir parker) is that they wanted more spider-man(and spider-man villains) in it.>>222768275Not him but Avi Arad, man
>>222768228Yes. Spider-Man has always been popular.
>>222760081third world buys tickets for 1/10 the price. Raw #s are no longer meaningful.
>>222768042This. People really just vibed with Peter and Jean’s dynamic. Now there is an argument to be made that he forgives her too fast(especially with the MJ moment) but the crux of the movie is Peter being cripplingly lonely so it still felt in character.
>>222768431It also proved that he learned from Aunt May's death. He could have tried to kill Jean, but instead he saw how she was hurting and decided to help her. Spiderman doesn't kill his villains, he saves them
>>222768473Wasn't spider-man trying to save his villains in homecoming and no way home too(with the exception of green goblin by the end of the film cause well that asshole killed his aunt may even after hopping dimensions?>>222768431>Peter being cripplingly lonely so it still felt in character.You think a lot of people nowadays are lonely?
