What season was peak? When did the downfall happen?>Peak: S01>Start of downfall: S04>The collapse for the average normie: S07The boomerang storytelling in S04 was a major red flag. As was the original showrunner, Frank Darabont, being axed by AMC for wanting to keep it grit and short. The next showrunner, started to dilute the piss out of the writing to keep viewers tuned into AMC because it was all the had. Now 29 season and 359 episodes of TWD and spinoffs, we have a viewership of just 240,000 (Daryl Dixon spinoff) down from a peak of ~22 million viewers overall.
The thing is that even the comic isn't good. Just the first volume that ends with Carl killing Shane is good.
Ey rik>rubs head
I remember watching S01 when it aired but it felt retarded by the final ep so I just dropped it. I was already burnt out with all the zombie slop coming out around that time.
>>222782465To be fair, it is probably the best zombie related tv series of all time. Problem is they diluted the piss out of their original ideas. It's pretty much what House of the Dragon is doing right now.
>>222782691>To be fair, it is probably the best zombie related tv series of all time.that's fair and I can't debate it since I don't think I've watched any zombie TV shows besides S01. Was a huge zombie film lover though like a lot of people were in the 90s and 2000s.I just got burnt out with all the slop that started coming out and never bothered with the TV shows. They all just looked too corny and stuff to me.
>>222782377it peaked fastit started falling by the end of season 2 i think it was when at the burn then finally find the little girlafter the prison it was the fall alreadythe little blonde bitch what's her name beth dying that was the end point for me and the ultimate turn point for many things i guess not just twd but the time period as well
>>222782912A lot of it is slop very true but there are some really good gems here and there, mostly outside of Hollywood. Check out Train to Busan and The Sadness. Also the Asian horror series Kingdom is quite good.
>>222783028>at the burn then finallythey* finally
>>222783065Already seen the Train to Busans and The Sadness. I still watch and keep up with zombie films but can't do TV shows, majority just drag on far too long and feel over dramatic/retarded for my taste. with films/movies at least they end within a couple hours.
>>222782377season 2 was the downfall. started getting worse during s2, i finished it but didn't have a great feeling going forward.havent watched any of season 3 and beyond
It turned into DEI slop written by dykes in season 4. Watch until Beth dies then stop.
>>222782413Kirkman's redemption arc fetish is fucking insufferable
>>222783261>majority just drag on far too long and feel over dramatic/retarded for my tasteThis was basically TWD after season 6. Holy fuck you haven't seen dragged on for too long until you watch seasons 9, 10 and 11. You can tell they were coping HARD with having to end it and they went on the biggest dilute filler season possible. There's an entire episode dedicated to Carol gathering indigents for a fucking soup or some shit. Vs the flawless pacing of S1 which you said you barely finished.
>>222783387Beth is coming back on Dead City this week though.
>>222783447Lol how bad is Dead City? I watched a season of Daryl and thought it was pretty meh. Does anything ever get good anymore or is it just character building and drama set in a world post apocalypse world (with minimal zombies)?
>>222783438>There's an entire episode dedicated to Carol gathering indigents for a fucking soup or some shit. To be fair, that was one of the weird bonus episodes they did during covid restrictions where they were doing small one-off filler episodes with just a handful of characters so they didn't have to shut down production.
>>222783511They should have just shut it down. Why deliver crap just to deliver something? Seasons were stretched out just to give people something to watch on their shitty network. Content is the lowest its ever been man.
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>>222783655S1>S2+S3>S4+S5+S6>>>>the rest
>>222783732>>222783655Has anyone made a fan edit condensing the filler and redundancy? Seems like it would be supreme for this series.
These shows always degrade into soap operas. Survival and zombies are no longer involved.
>>222782413I remember a chapter that suddenly introduced three (3) interracial couples, and then Rick dies a few chapters later and it ends.
>>222782377I enjoy the first three seasons. After that it slowly became unwatchable slop made for the normies that somehow stuck around. I like comparing it to the MCU or Fast and Furious of TV. Are the spinoffs any good? I watched FTWD until season 3 because I didn't like how they began killing the main characters.
>>222783387Beth dying is around when I stopped watching. I always thought she was cute, they finally give her an episode and she gets killed for practically no reason.
>>222782377the downfall started the moment the guy got out of the hospitali stopped watching after that
Season 2 was one of the worsts seasons. They cut the budget in half for twice as many episodes, it's just that one location, and there are shitty filler episodes like the zombie in the well. They actually hit rock bottom pretty early before getting back up; but too many people around here love a good "it became shit when it became woke" schizo theory
>>222782413The comic is fucking god awful
>>222785034Because Frank Darabont was replaced as showrunner. The show ended with him kek. Everything that followed was fanfiction.
>>222784666>they finally give her an episode and she gets killed for practically no reason.I will be gracious due to those digits you got but were you not paying attention to the writing throughout the entire show? When they take a character who is underused or just background and start giving them more lines and/or give them a "moment" that is their way of making you give a shit about them so you will be sad when they die in either the next episode or the one after. The whole series was written that way starting in season 3 (unless I'm forgetting something earlier).
I stopped paying attention the moment they chose not to kill negan
>>222782377I lost interest whenever they ran out of budget and spent half a season walking around the woods
The Bashening was the point of no return. The show had declined steadily, but after Negan was finally revealed, the show just limped on like a zombie.
>>222782377When rick dies by blowing up the bridge which is towards the end, it was pretty bad after that.
TWD threads used to be the best part of /tv/ and I looked forward to them on Sunday nights after the episode. Mostly what I see when I visit this board now is capeshit and people seething about shows and movies that aren't even out yet. I don't think there's a contemporary equivalent here now to those old threads, no show people actually give a fuck about. We used to bash this show too but it was in a more affectionate way and with humor. People here now are just angry about everything they see but can't move on to another hobby for some reason.
The series went to shit after they killed off Dale
I stopped sometime before the Whispers showed up.
I watched up to season 5 of the show, but I just liked some of the characters, the story overall had gotten pretty bad much before that. I'd say the Governor's failed attempt at taking the prison and the introduction of a bunch of random redshirts was the time I stopped really caring about the series. I watched season 1 of Fear, first 3 episodes are solid but I gave up after the end of the first season.The best thing to come out of the Walking Dead is season 1 of the video game. Part of season 2 is good but I wasn't convinced about playing Clem and the end sucks, they seemed to have little plans for the story. I gave up after that.>>222785056It's really bafflingly underwhelming. You have to wonder why they decided to adapt it. Not complaining, since we got some good TV and a better game, but I really don't get what made AMC and Frank Darabont say "this is it".
>>222785793I was in the TWD general when the FTWD episode featured a scene where Daniel summoned a lightning bolt to headshot a walker. The other 2 anons and I in that thread flipped our shit
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>>222785917Oh yeah? Well how did you know they showed up then, huh? Thought so.
>>222782377>Peak: Pilot>Shit: Everything else
>>222785999Fear was simultaneously goofier yet far more boring than the main show. I loved how half the cast came from Deadwood though which was fitting considering they pretty much turned the show into a western BUT WITH ZOMBIESAlso, check 'em.
At least they learned a valuable lesson: stop killing off interesting characters or viewers will stop watching.
>>222786048what the fuck
>>222783387Early life checked the guy who took over in Season 4. Imagine my shock.
>>222786164Do not FUCK with Daniel.
>>222785999FWTD started out pretty strong especially during the early days of the zombie invasion and then kinda did nothing with it. How the FUCK are the writers THIS bad?>>222786048Oh jesus lmao
>>222786151Game of Thrones says hi
>>222786229he said interesting characters
>>222786048What about the time John split a flying bullet by holding up an axe?
>>222782377Enid was kinda cute tbqh
>>222783342Yeah I think the show really struggled after Shane died. I kinda stopped caring around Season 3. It was a huge deal before then though. I remember calling around to see who had AMC so I could catch it. Hard to imagine now.
>>222786202At least when FTWD stopped giving a fuck, they didn't stop caring.
>>222786294Shane lives on with Judith, she isn't Rick's daughter. Lori actually cheated on him while he was in the hospital.
>>222786151No... see they established the idea that in the zombie apocalypse no one was ever safe. If you learned to survive the undead then people were going to get you, or even the lack of medical care. But they killed off so many characters they had to grant invincibility status to a select few which meant introducing new characters constantly so you could have someone fresh to get attached to and then cry when they got killed. It became cheap and predictable in a short period of time.
>>222786071Because they're in the comic books.
>>222782377Only the first season where they focused on the horror and the zombies were smart and looked like uncanny humans was ever good
>>222786435How come they forgot how to pick up objects and climb fences after the third episode?
>>222786500Darabont wanted to do smart zombies and AMC told him no, then they ended up adding zombies that mutated to become smarter in the final season anyways (which never get mentioned again in any of the spinoffs)
>>222786549Dixon's entire second season was centered around a "zombie messiah" who vanished between seasons, and not even Daryl cared to mention him again, despite forming a father/son-like relationship with him
I enjoyed until whatever season the whispers showed up in.
>>222786549Even if they call him to remake it one day we'll always suffer the pain of never knowing what it could've been had he never stepped down as showrunner
>>222782377Glen's death is when everyone realized that it was going to be endless misery porn. There was no homestead or farming community at the end of the tunnel, just another wave of cartoonish bad guys to content with in perpetuity.
Beth is coming BACK to LIFE in the next Dead City sode
>>222786967I can't really blame you but you missed the refounding of actual civilization with actual money and police that were dressed for some Star Wars spinoff, and Darryl was finally allowed to say "FUCK" once per episode.
>>222787044Maggie is getting NEGAN'D in the next Dead City
is the daryl spin off worth watching? twd in europe sounds nice
>>222787082And now on Dead City they say "fuck" as much as they want because there are no advertisers left to worry about upsetting.
>>222787126It's pretty lame. The France seasons are just The Last of Us and the Spain season is just another Zombie Western like Fear.
>>222787126It's more pointless than TWD. It only exists so that Norman Reedus can get paid to fuck around on a European Vacation
>>222786202>>222786314FTWD ended up becoming worse and worse after they killed off the heroin addict dude. Somehow I watched until the end, I did have to fast forward a ton because I was cringing too much. No idea why but I just had to finish it and now I cant even remember the end. I know they brought the mom and the ranch dude back but for the life of me I cant remember what happened. They probably killed the ranch dude and then everyone lived there happily ever after
>>222787172The original family stopped being interesting after the dad anherod out of a helicopter. They dragged out those duds much longer than they should have. The show got a little better when Morgan crossed over, because I was just so sick of the family
>>222787133Do advertisers even really give a shit anymore about language?
>>222787223I really liked the heroin dude, he was a neutered non character in the last season he was in though. Still can't get over the sister "dying" from infection and then just waking up with full makeup on a sunny day and strolling off. Thought for sure she had died
>>222787270>>222787133The original series was restrained because it was on basic cable, the spinoffs are streaming only. It has nothing to do with advertisers.
Last episode I remember watching was when they ate a dude's leg and they didn't know he was infected. He started screaming "TAINTED MEAT" or something. Anyone remember what season that was? Talking dead was a kino time. I also remember finding a gay porn actor who looks JUST like carl.
>>222787305They still air on actual tv.
>>222787305I'll ask differently: Is cable still cucked? I haven't turned it on outside college football in years.
>>222787289She amputated her arm, walked off, and replaced it with a mechanical death weapon she crafted from scrap while bleeding out ezpz girlboss
>>222783387It was bittersweet. At least Bethfu died pure, before she could be blacked by Everybody Hates Chris.
Fear the Walking Dead was crazy with how many dropped plotlines and characters just randomly getting written off offscreen and never seen again it had.
>>222787166>>222787157Dunno, I kinda liked the France season if only for the different atmosphere. The more I watched beyond those, particularly when Carol shows up, the more obvious it became that the actors would rather be doing something else with their lives.
I remember the actor for Carl buying a house near the studio location, all excited about working in The Walking Dead, only to be told soon after that his character was being killed off for no reason
>>222782377People who don't watch TWD don't get it.>I watched the first x seasons and then it turned shit so I stopped watching!Filtered. Hard.TWD is only consistent in how inconsistent its quality is. Sometimes it's kino. Sometimes it's bottle of the barrel shit. More often the latter. But it's ALWAYS entertaining (well except for season 2).It's a hundred times more enjoyable than acclaimed slop like Severance or The Pitt or whatever because it's fun and it knows its audience. And that's what you tranny plebbitors can never understand. It's not trying to win emmys with dumbass storylines about coming out of the closet. It's a dumb soap opera with zombies and murder.
What was the moment that made you say “fuck this shit” and drop the show? For me, it was when Negan’s goons had Rick and co. surrounded and all their guns exploded with tampered bullets like some Looney Tunes nonsense
>>222787395>killed off for no reasonThe kid was a known leaker who chose internet likes over his career
>>222787320They do? I can't believe they would bother.>>222787324You and everyone else except people who didn't even watch football in the first place. Cable is going the way of the opera.
>>222787421>The kid was a known leakerI assumed he was old enough to not pee in his bed but I guess not
>>222787330Stop replying to your own posts, /pol/.
>>222783492Dead City and Daryl Dixon are both kino for completely different reasons.DC: "cgi is cheap enough that we could set a show in Manhattan without breaking the budget. Also, fans love Negan. And Lauren Cohen isn't doing anything"DD: "if TWD was in Europe and we tried writing it like a serious show that wasn't dumb, what would that be?"Dead City's a lot more fun. But a lot stupider and with worse actions scenes.
>>222787447>and we tried writing it like a serious show that wasn't dumbI guess they gave up before putting pen to paper
>>222787406>bottle of the barrelWhat?
>>222782377>story about a man>kill his best friend>kill his wife>kill his son>at least he has a new daughter>sike, it's not his>kill him and replace the original cast with more minorities
>>222787395The (((reason))) Coral was killed off is because he was turning 18 and would have to be paid more as an adult instead of a kid
>>222786661He didn't "vanish between seasons". Did you not watch the fucking show?They wrote him out in the s2 finale pretty clearly. He's in America, chilling out so that they could avoid him growing up too much despite how little time has passed
>>222787471*bottom of the barrelhappy? it's been a long day
>>222787418The part about that that made me scratch my head was they had to travel to get there and in that whole time not one of them fired a shot; not at an intrepid walker or at a Pepsi can just for fun. You'd think they would have found out about the sabotage by then.>>222787439I was going to make a joke about adult diapers but fuck you for beating me to it.
>>222787092No, they're setting Maggie up to get BEANED by a Puerto Rican doctor in her new community. They recently had an episode with some flirting and dancing and sexual tension. He's even taking over as Hershel's dad and mentoring him to become a doctor.
>>222787549Doesn't that sound a little too good to be true? Wouldn't your expectations be completely subverted if he get nom'd by a random walker
NOOOOOO NEGAN-SAN, PREES STOPPU!!!
>>222782428Rick and Shane prequel cop buddy movie fucking when?
First decline is after the first season and is primarily budget related, very jarring. Second decline is when Michonne is introduced (same as in the comic), but it's still pretty watchable. Once you hit the Alexandria stuff it's still decent but starts declining again, still watchable but steadily downhill at this point. The show becomes unwatchable LITERALLY the episode after Rick leaves and you realize he was carrying the whole fucking thing on his back.
>>222787126The first season is good. The second is barely watchable. The third is OKish mostly.
>>222787649The Local Burner left the show before it went to shit and made it. He doesn't have the time, nor do they have the moneyHe's got them Disney Bux now
>>222783732>same normies who cried that Glenn's death was too violent/graphic also love the Terminus episode with its cartel execution video-tier violence and cannibalism
>>222787347The Morgan era of Fear is the worst a TWD property has ever been. Profoundly dumb and agonizing to watch.
>>222787649...in which we find out that Rick isn't Carl's father either.
>>222787670Watching the 2nd season while it was airing was torture, on a rewatch it's pretty decent but still has a lot of fluff. It did have my favorite scene of the show though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYsbekn7C28
>>222787347If you stopped watching FTWD before this happened I don't blame you, but Madison and Troy both return and have their stories resolved in the final season.
>>222787662If I thought something declined that many times I wouldn't have followed it for nine years. When the Phantom Menace came out I shrugged and said "well that sucked". I didn't keep going to see the others after that.
>>222787649They'd be too old for a prequel, and I doubt Bernthal will ever return. He's too famous these days as Punisher.
>>222787859>too old for a prequelAMC gives zero fucks about that
(((Scott Gimble))) ran it into the ground, he was then sent over to FTWD and wrecked that.The correlation of him being showrunner and each of the shoes going to shit is stunning.
>>222783655it harsh on S2, it had some dire filler episodes, was low budget and a bit of a "bottle season" BUT it was still well acted and directed and had several kino episodes as well specially the first and last.
>>222782377Fear season 1 had so much potential, especially with the junkie. They fucked it all up once they got to Mexico though
>>222782377I would say the cutoff point was when they arrive at the gates at the ASZ season 5 episode 11.It had problems before that earlier in S5 and S4 but at that point the gimple decline and rot becomes all consuming They portrayed the ASZ and negans saviours very poorly
>>222782428>m’ask u sum’n
>>222782377I saw part of the new Maggie show. I can’t believe they’re gonna have her fuck the guy that murdered her husband. That’s such a slap in the face to the original fans.
>>222788155>That’s such a slap in the face to the original fans.Like they aren't used to it by now
>>222782377started going down after season 3. Peaked when the governor stormed the prison
The main problem(besides scott gimble) The decision to make FTWD all the resources and great actors they put in that should have been put into main show. It over saturated the zomibe genre now you had a TWD or FTWD episode every week all year long.Too many episodes they should have speed run the Sauce material1A leave as it1B Season 2 Farm but trimmed from 13 to 6-8 episodes 2A the Prison2B wood bury war , prison falls3 Epic cross country trek across america, eugene group,claimers , father Gabriel, the hunters, the grove4A ASZ , mid season finale is jesus watching them with binos4B wider world, hill top saviours etc, negan in the finale kills glen5A cold war/ruled by/with saviours 5B war with saviours6 Whisperers7 The commonwealth
>>222782428God, i wish i was here at the peak of shaneposting.
>>222788364The actor says he embraces the meme. He knows the writers are sliding in a "mask u sumthn" in every script
>>222788364Shaneposting is what made week after week of "nothing happens" S2 episodes tolerable
>>222788489https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXlsNuKsHEA
>>222782377Just finished Daryl "Hick" Dixon, season 3, of course they had to denigrate Franco and make the communist, who raped nuns and burned priests, the fucking heroes, fucking propaganda everywhere
>>222787611Lucille, white man braining a chink, then cuck the chink, amazing, hopefully he'll brain the mutt too.
>>222787172I loved the military brothers arc in season 3. Just when the show was starting to get kino they decided to change everythingAlso funny how every attractive actor in TWD universe is British
>>222788608Yea after season 3 it got really dumb really fast, that goddamn journo and her van, they ruined morgan and that whole nuclear wasteland. I cant believe they managed to fuck up a nuclear wasteland setting
>>222788680Remember when Morgan and his friends somehow managed to build and pilot a whole fucking airplane?
>>222788854I do now
>>222788854Tbf they crashed it
I tuned in for the fuck of it last week, and it was the book of daryl or some shit. They were in some big fortified mission in spain, everyone was using guns from the 1800s and they were being attacked by people dressed like mad max style furries. At some point in the episode, they launched catapults and the ammo was walkers that were on fire. I just turned it off. I thought it was absolutely fucking retarded already years ago, when they had to steal an old timey wagon from a museum (to learn how to make wagons) and it put the entire group at risk. They also took a canoe. If it's still around in another five years, I'll see how brain damaged it is
>>222788854yeah and they lined the landing strip with christmas lights. fuck I need to quit remembering these bits and pieces of shit lol
I gave up on it before this. But I heard there’s an episode that ends with someone screaming in agony while being torn apart. And then 4 episodes later it’s revealed that there was a person laying on top of them what was being ripped apart and the character was screaming for no reason.
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>>222788854I enjoyed how off-the-rails Fear went. It was a lot more fun than the "serious" soap opera TWD became
>>222788608>>222788680Scott gimble was FTWD for Seasons 4–8 Executive producer, after he wreaked TWD they moved him over there and he wreaked FTWD
>>2227823775 was the most kino season but most of the show sucked
>>222789160the farm episodes with herschel slowed to a fucking crawl. and they've been doing the same tired fucking trope ever since. Let's get all rustic and make a farm, let's make a windmill for no fucking reason in a place that still has power. Seriously.
>>222786435Holy shit you are 100% accurate. Season 1 was peak horror. Later on it turned into generic action and finally a soap opera.
>>222787447Can someone explain how tf Daryl even gets to France or why Negan goes to Dead City or why they even split up at the end of TWD in the first place?
>>222782377>Peak: S01>Start of downfall: Last episode of S01>The collapse for the average normie: Who gives a fuck about normgroids?
>>222789314Daryl goes off on an adventure to "find himself" and winds up getting kidnapped and sold to a zombie research facility in FranceNegan is living in the woods with his new family, but Maggie drags him back into the insanity because her son got kidnapped because reasons, and the plot says he's the only one she knows with knowledge of the City
>>222786314Someone post the junkyard greenscreen webm.
>>222787913>>222787859If you want to hear something really stupid, read picrel. Dumbass Redditors are literally suggesting we should get a spinoff with all the kids now grown up going on zombie adventures holy Christ I hate these people like you wouldn’t believe
>>222789314some writer just REALLY wanted maggie and negan to fuck
>>222789412They already did a spin off with the kidsThe World BeyondIt sucked and was canceled after 2 seasons
It went to shit as soon as they fired this guy.
>>222788258Some Redditor came up with a great fanedit to cut the filler and bloat. Unfortunately he used a low bitrate in his edit for whatever fucking reason. How are they that much of a fuckup at everything they do?https://www.reddit.com/r/TWD/s/Kvt446d0DE
>>222786048Why did the zombie stop to just look at him?Does it have some kind of intelligence or reasoning ability?
>>222789728He recognized a true believer in the Catholic faith and was overwhelmed with the Holy Spirit.
>>222787716Glenn's death was never about violence. It was that it was shock value.
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>>222789050I remember this, yeah.
>>222789820I dunno, in the comic main characters were constantly dying, i dunno why so many people were shocked by glenns death.
>>222789831That's how Daniel interpreted it. He walked out into the wasteland, hoping to die. That's why he tossed his weapon aside and offered himself to the zombie. That prayer was his final prayer, but plot intervened, and he believed it was a miracle from God to keep living.
>>222789412Why bother? The show itself is the actual walking dead at this point kekJust let it rest until everyone forgets about it and remake it in 10 years being faithful to the comics and the original showrunner
>>222789918The fake out they did with Glenn earlier that season where it seemed like he died by the dumpster, only to bring him back then immediately kill him off for real contributed to the butthurt
>filler >fakeout deaths >bloat>boomerang storytelling >nothing actually happens >goofy characters like tiger kang >killing off coral and rick leaving >loss of grit and horror from season 1Did I miss anything?
>>222789965The funny part is that they did the fakeout again with Rick’s death at the end of season 8 only to kill him of rather send him off a few episodes later KEK
I don't even remember till which season I watched but I hate this ugly bitch. I think I stopped when they were in the town with the black Kang dude.
>>222790263i have nothing against the actress but the character ruined both the show and the comics
>>222790263Rick and Michonne in a relationship was awful. They have zero chemistry or attraction to each other. It's not even a racemixing thing, that's pretty far down on the list of problems here. Rick should have ended up with the battered wife married to the abusive doctor in Alexandria.
>>222790457I always say woke is the canary in the coal mine. It’s not the annoying genderfluid rainbow faggots injecting themselves into every piece of story, it’s the retarded and pointless writing that comes with it.
