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I unironically don't get it
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>>222790465
he's unable to separate reality from fiction.
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its funny
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>>222790465
First act is great
Second act is okay
Third act is complete shit
Overall a very mid movie
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get these digits
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>>222790465
Yuppies are sociopaths who are indistinguishable from one another
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>>222790465
I "get" it but ironically. Check em.
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Watch the bootleg of the broadway version on youtube instead. It's much better.
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It's just a guy LARPing. You know when you enjoy a catchy pop song and hum along, like Dolly Parton's '9 To 5'? Imagine you just hadn't that mechanism in your head but HAD to fit in with others, so you pretended you did.
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>>222790465
He's a capitalist robot but his soul cries out for a more meaningful existence, and this inner conflict manifests as a bloodlust, simple as.
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>>222790465
don't worry. it can only be understood by women
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>>222790465
It's autobiographical... Ellis is a closeted homo
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Check em
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just a giggle
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>>222790978
Damn that's a really good analogy.
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>>222790465
he feels he has no agency or purpose in life and imagines murdering people as a form of escapism. Think of those distopia movies (Brazil) except it's someone in a comfortable position.
All he does all day is play meaningless status games with people who don't remember each other's names( Getting a table at the exclusive restaurant, Liberal one-upsmanship at that one resteraunt, the business card scene) He does nothing at his job, as does everyone he considers a peer.
It's a very feminine life, everything about his life is the catty status games girls do with each other, the only masculine thing about his life is exercising and having sex. He defines himself by his house location and skincare routine (products bought because they're expensive, effectiveness of use are counteracted by the order he uses them)
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>>222791033
>>222791022
Checked.
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>>222790465
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>>222791455
>>222791022
>>222791033
Checked
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>>222790465
What about the conflict in Rhodesia? Do you not "get" the Rhodes?
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>>222790885
wow, you gave an actual answer instead of making fun of OP? Disgusting.
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>>222790465
white man goes crazy and kills people. many such cases.
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>>222790941
oh now this is cute
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>>222790465
It's a satirical look into how empty the yuppie culture of 80s America was, exemplified by the main character being devoid of anything resembling humanity. The book was more blatant about it with how Bateman obsessively recounts critique and other meaningless bullshit as a substitute for meaningful thought.
Three pages of rambling about how a magazine critic once described a watch and why that matters to his appearance. The business card scene is meant to make you understand this, and it's good, but it doesn't quite get there as far as forcing the audience to understand.
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>>222790465
these are the just the ramblings and imaginings of a gay faggot queer degenerate
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>>222790465
Wouldn't it be wild if somebody went crazy and killed a bunch of people
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>>222790465
>At last...
>I truly have become... The American Psycho™...


Really?
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>he killed hookers
He was actually doing them a favor. Patrick is the hero of the story, Paul Allen was the villian.
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>>222790941
>this confession has meant nothing
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so dubsia is where Jean wants to go
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It's one of those "quote movies" like The Big Lebowski and The Departed. Its merits as kino are secondary to the dialog.
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>>222790885
It's deeper than that, though. Bateman's not supposed to be a normal yuppie. He's an inconceivably wealthy old-money creature. This is only hinted at--his father's power and wealth which are way beyond the generic white-boy finance-major assholes he hangs with--but it's a super-important hint to understanding the book.

Bateman is obsessed with "fitting in" and being a person but he has no idea what a person is. His descriptions of clothes and music (which are intentionally ridiculous, Ellis says) are his perception of the culture around him.

The people he hangs with aren't Bateman, he's a singular creature in this book, and he's trying to fit into an empty culture and the verbal diarrhea is his only way of grasping it. The old-money wealthy lifestyle doesn't work for him so he's trying the consumption-driven-asshole lifestyle because it's the closest thing he can find to what a person is, what a life is. The only other alternative is the life of the poor/homeless/prostitutes which utterly repulse him. When none of these options satisfy him, over time, you see the cracks and that's where the violence comes in. (Unlike in the movie, it's very obvious in the book that the violence is not real, it's just cartoonish nonsense.)

The point is he can't find an exit (see the final paragraph). Culture is all there is. Even the violent fantasies, being as inhuman as possible, don't let him escape from the soul-crushing drudgery of having to embrace society in one way or another.

American Psycho is not about "wealth makes you a dirtbag", it's "we all barely exist as individuals because we can only exist through society or as a reaction to society". The criticism of corporate/finance types is just part of it because of the era the book was written in. It's not the real point of the book.

The movie misses all of this, by the way, and just treats it as a black comedy, which is totally fine.
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>>222792418
See >>222793362
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>>222793362
BEE's own disillusionment with adulthood was a big factor.
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>>222793362
Nope.

>what's the rest of Ellis' work like
>what's the consistent theme
>what is satire
>is Ellis a moralist

Ellis is easily the most entry-level of all the metamodernists but Americans are so fucking stupid he may as well be Gaddis. I like him quite a bit and think both that he writes beautifully as well as meaningfully, but find it just fucking baffling that there are literal retards out there thinking they have some profound understanding of his work while completely not fucking getting it at all. See also:

>wHaT iF hE iMaGiNeD iT???
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It's about aids, the writer is a homo, every time bateman kills someone in the movie it's him actually giving them aids, like the writer probably did irl
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This is probably the most Brett has opened up about writing it and what it's about:

https://youtu.be/2hSK3ETc7YI?is=u85C4rfnAfWjiZSN
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>>222793453
You're telling me the guy who watches talking cheerios on television couldn't possibly fantasize about gruesome acts of violence.
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>>222793362
>we all barely exist as individuals because we can only exist through society or as a reaction to society
I'm going to assume "barely" in this sentence means "just barely exist as individuals" and not the stupider "we're barely individuals at all".
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>>222790465
AHHHHH HELP ME, I HAVE A HIGH PAYING EASY JOB, A NICE APARTMENT, AM FIT AND HEALTHY, AND HAVE A GOOD SOCIAL LIFE, I'M GOING INSAAAAANNNNEEEEE
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>>222793577
What's the difference? Barely existing as an individual is the same as being barely individual, right? How is one stupider than the other?
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>>222793621
I'll elaborate later I'm about to head out. Although I can see I wasn't clear enough.
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>>222793640
Let me know when you get back from returning your videotapes.
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>>222793615
NOOO DON'T SUCK MY COCK!
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>>222793362
>Bateman
>plays Batman

Fuck you Nolan you fucking hack



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