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Collegetards still haven't refuted this
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>>222795903
HEY OP!
DO YOU LIKE APPLES?????
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college gave me a certificate that said i wasn't donkey brained
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>>222795903
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>>222795917
Red yes, green no, but the latter is better for making apple pie. Why's that?
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>>222795934
Phdbros?
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>>222795942
WELL CUZ I GOT DUBS
HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES!!!
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>>222795903
This movie did not age well.
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>>222796009
How wild it is that Ivy League institutions–notably Harvard and Yale– poisoned their own well and lost the lion's share of the respect and prestige they once held
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>>222796253
>>222796009
>>222795903
English majors lost respect once we all had the internet and realized professors were pushing agendas rather than quality literature.
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>>222795934
What is a professional degree?
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>>222795903
College isn't for learning, it's for making connections with people who are currently in the industry or who will eventually be in the industry.
If you didn't talk to anybody you wasted your money.
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>>222795903
I'm not saying you should or shouldn't go to university, but there are some professions that require strict training for licensure like doctors, lawyers, psychologists, counsellors, etc. So if you want to become a lawyer, enrolling in a law degree is your only option.

But arts-related jobs like designers, filmmakers, photographers, yes, you can do that without a degree. In fact, I learned 3d modelling all by myself. Would studying a 3d design program helped me learn more efficiently? Definitely, since I'd make less mistakes and always have someone to reach out to whenever i don't understand something. But I can still learn it by just watching youtube videos, even if the learning process is less efficient.

So ultimately, it really depends on your goal. There's no right or wrong answer.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
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>>222796382
>doctors, lawyers, psychologists, counsellors
those are all shit jobs though. the juice is not worth the squeeze.except law, law is pretty good pay for what it is
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>>222795903
it's a social signal. it shows you're willing to play the game and persist with it
>>222796404
all the lawyers i know (aus), don't make much more than other (uni educated) white collar workers. maybe when you get to the upper echelons, but that applies to the others as well
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>>222796404
Most people do it for the love of the profession. In fact, I'm going back to school to study clinical psychology this september using the money i saved up from working your typical 9-6 job.

I can just keep working the same boring job until retirement, sure. But i only live once, so might as well just do something i like before i'm too old for it.
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>>222796404
Others maybe but doctor? Where are you getting that from
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>>222796433
>all the lawyers i know (aus), don't make much more than other (uni educated) white collar workers
Is it because they are the type of lawyers who only do paperwork and not defend clients in court?
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>>222796333
>College isn't for learning, it's for making connections with people who are currently in the industry or who will eventually be in the industry.
This is something I unfortunately learned only afterwards.
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>>222796460
at least one of them defends clients in court (i think he's a public defender)
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>>222795903
You don't get a shabbos goy certificate at the library
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>>222796459
the job is fucking terrible when they're actually working and not messing around and postponing your urgent visit for 3 months
depending on where you work be prepared for 24+ hour shifts with minimal breaks
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>>222796511
this, also it's relatively difficult for niggers to get legit degrees
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>>222796492
Yeah, PD makes way less than private ones since they're funded by taxpayer money
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I dropped out and I think I'd rather kill myself than go back. Unironically. Some cunt hands me an assignment to write a 10 page paper about absolute bullshit and the pistol in my drawer is going to look a lot better than it does most days, and most days it already looks pretty good.
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>>222796526
Doctors sold themselves out to health insurers for more money, oops turns out having a corporate doctor boss instead of being your own boss sucks shit
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>>222796571
Just get a uglier pistol.
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>>222796612
>local man buys hi point c9, still kills himself
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>>222796526
That’s doctors on call for a hospital or a clinic, and then they get the rest of the week off
If you’re just working in a cabinet/office you take as many patients as you want and make a lot of money
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>>222795934
very antisemitic post. please take this down!
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>>222796670
ophthalmology seems like a sweet gig, whenever I get an appointment the doctor just looks at my eyes with a couple of machines, then he gives me some drops and looks again, and then I hand him 100€
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>>222796716
My ex was a doctor, one day she tells me
>I want to make 1000€ today
Stuck in my mind since
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>>222796571
hopefully this is a joke but if you thought 10 pages was a long paper then i think you really should go with your gut on one of those days
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>>222795903
he could have returned the book and checked it out again and avoided late fees entirely.
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I didnt go to college, I went to books
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>>222795917
It's the worst fucking line in the movie and quite possibly one of the worst lines ever. The fact that it's iconic is weird. Maybe people hate it as much as me and that's why it's quoted ironically.
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>>222796716
I feel like a physiologist or occupational therapist hits the sweet spot. You still get the prestige of being a medical professional, but cheaper way easier to study and graduate than a medical degree. And the job is pretty relaxed as well. Every time i go there, they just tell me what exercise to do, and then i'd do it while they scroll their phone
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>>222796870
cheaper and way easier*
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>>222795903
First of all, he didn't pay for his own college, his parents did. These days even the kids with rich parents take out loans they never intent to repay in order to pay for college. Secondly, they don't pay for the education, they pay for the meaningless credentials. They pay for the degree that they might be able to use to land a job that doesn't suck.
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>>222796910
>offer a guy at a good job that pays 100k+ a year 150k to hire you for a year
>????
Profit

No college needed lmao
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my college classmates looked at me in confusion when i told them i borrow the material from the library
and when it's not at the library i just buy them used online for less than half price
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>>222795960
Advice is not to do a PhD for the money but because you love it.

But also, American PhDs are generally longer and harder than in other countries and also much more old school.
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w-w-wyan....?
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>>222796863
>The fact that it's iconic is weird
It became a meme thanks to a Louis CK riff on it, nobody remembers Will Hunting for anything positive nowadays, and rightfully so.
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>>222797083
>It became a meme thanks to a Louis CK riff on it
possibly the most millennial/zoomer revision ive ever heard. that line was memed about constantly since the movie came out.
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>>222796925
Also is there any known tales of someone doing this (obviously not as much) but like, offering a man you know can get you a job at a high end place like 20k to get your foot in the door?

I feel like this is such a ez life hack but I've never seen it done in media or in stories ever
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>>222796009
Same, I'm bald and fat
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I've never gotten late charges
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>>222796321
medicine/law
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>>222795903
Which public library has millions of dollars in lab equipment and dozens of people to help me learn to use it all?
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>>222797103
Apparently this is "ILLEGAL" and punishable by law lmao. You would think it would just be a fireable no-no at worst.

Meanwhile if you're a member of the tribe, COME RIGHT IN BROTHER
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>>222795918
>college gave me a certificate that said i wasn't donkey brained
all you have to do is tell the person interviewing you for a job how 'wicked smaht' you are though
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>go to university paid for by mommy and daddy
>major in philosophy because I think it's interesting
>after university do a course in ESL so I can travel a bit
>fast forward eight years
>working as a teacher/administrator at an international school in Thailand
>at work 9:30 - 3:45, only actually work about 4 hours a day
>no real boss, no oversight, complete privacy to do nothing in my office most of the day
>13 weeks vacation every year + public holidays + 30 sick days (lol)
>making $5000 a month + benefits, save about $2500 a month even being reckless with my spending
>renting a gorgeous, spacious condo, eat out every night, buy whatever I want
>banging 20 year old asian qts every weekend

I really don't understand why more "educated" people don't just leave their shitty western countries. I quite literally barely work, have zero stress, and I'm already well on track for a comfortable early retirement. No need to put up with psycho western whores either.
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>>222797083
>Louis CK
holy shit this faggot thinks everyone is as retarded as him to even unironically proclaim some C list comedian is more remembered than the Academy winning film.
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In spirit, there's nothing wrong with just learning shit like history, philosophy and math on your own. In practice, you will never meet a so-called auto-didact who isn't a fucking braindead idiot. There's something about being forced to learn shit that makes you simply smarter.
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cope. the public library won't have textbooks detailing the order of which you learn things so as to not waste time figuring out which fucking book to spend time on. many books in a library will be of a general knowledge and not specific with sequence of processes. It's wishful thinking and a false equivocation with use of the term "library".
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>>222796333
>College isn't for learning
Yeah bro I could have totally taught myself how to do structural analysis all on my own with no accountability or schedule whatsoever. There's a reason why the lecture format has been around for thousands of years
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>>222796321
i'd say one where the profession requires that sepcific degree. im thinking medicine, law and engineering
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>>222795903
College isn't about what you know. It's about who you know.
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>>222797646
>Implying Thai girls aren't crazy
That's how I know you are full of shit.
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Refute it all you want, your next fucking doctor is using ChatGPT and AI to cheat his way through his way through it.
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>>222795903
A library won't tell you when you got something wrong. You also wont write 10,000 words of essays, theses, make presentations etc because no one is assessing you. Reading a book isn't work, writing it up with dozens or hundreds of other sources and making an original argument when many people have done so before you is what a higher education is for. Are Americans just mad they don't have student loans only re-payable if you actually earn over a certain amount? Or are they afraid they are too dumb to even get into university in the first place? Probably both right.
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>>222797044
I did a PhD in England and I don't know where you gor this information but it's obviously not based on personal experience.
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>>222795903
do americans pay for collega?
here in socialist europe university is free
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>>222798135
>free
certified RETARD
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>>222797155
Don't those go under bachelor/master's degrees?
I know engineering does.
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>>222795903
>Have ya ever read American history written by a communist subversive? Well, I have and I was molested! Checkmate, Aryan Harvard Chad. Apples
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>>222797044
>American PhDs are generally longer and harder
Longer, yes, but not necessarily harder. It's just stretched out further apart whereas in countries like the UK, everything in crammed in, hence you complete it in a shorter amount of time
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>>222798262
Just won the Arday Scholarship at Cambridge. Time to copy and paste like my life depends on it
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>>222795903
Ive served on several hiring committees for my department. At minimum the first box to check is a Bachelor's or higher from an accredited institution or equivalent in years of experience. If they dont have that i won't even read the rest of their application.
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>>222798277
That's plagiarism, you'd get expelled. Unless you're black.
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>>222795903
>You could've been sucking Harvey's cock like I did
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>>222798325
>Valuing a piece of paper over experience
You deserve to get raped in the anus.
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>>222798349
Hey man, I'm pretty generous. I usually want to see how people preform in an interview. But when you dont give me the boxes to check I have to justify it to HR. Dont make both our lives harder.
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>>222795934
>Bachelor's degree makes less than a fucking forklift operator
Awesome graphic
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>>222795917
What if he said no...
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>>222795903
you dont go to college for the education you go for the paper they hand you at the end hoping it will give you better jobs.
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>>222798403
>justify it to HR
So actual working experience isn't a valid justification? What lousy company do you work at?
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>>222798325
How proud you must be.
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>>222797102
>that line was memed about constantly since the movie came out.
Go ahead and post a movie or series or article before the 2020s were it was.

>>222797938
>C list comedian
I hope this cope is according to your "tastes", because no other metric reflects that.
>i-it won an oscar!!!!
Stop eating crayons if you want to ever discuss movies properly. "Shakespeare in love" won oscars too and it's as remembered as Will Hunting, rightfully so.
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>>222798426
Well... uh... m-maybe he likes bananas...
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>>222797646
People do this after working at McDonald's and saving up 1,000 dollars because Thailand is a sexpest country where the women and men will do ass to mouth for a dollar, I don't think Batman himself could have gotten me to tell this story lmao
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>>222796321
Gender Studies, of course.
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>>222796333
This is something midwit blue collar people love to say because it makes them feel like they're equivalent. No, it's not so you can "make connections", you fucking idiot. It's for being taught important things by people who actually give a shit about the subject matter. I could type an essay about how wrong you are but it'd be a waste of my highly-educated time.
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>>222795903
very true for all non-stem fields.
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>>222795918
And then HR, even though they required that certificate, turned around and sent you to an online skill assessment and then to a series of technical interviews after that, showing that they don't actually believe the college degree is a guarantee of anything other than your willingness to endure spending a lot of resources just to get a small shot at employment.
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College is like, super important, it's very serious and everyone takes it serious
>Millions of unwashed peasants from India show up with pieces of paper that say "Best Degree #1 India University" and immediately take all the college educated jobs
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>>222798478
t. Gender Studies professor
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>>222795918
I'm in medical administration and I've been using the same fake photoshopped degree I printed off in 2008. The entire system is a joke.
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>>222795903
That’s my gf’s favorite movie. Mine is the return of the king
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>>222798163
It's hard to say in that graph. Typically professional degrees are things like physician, lawyer, pharmacist, dentist, vet, etc. Degrees for a specific profession. However, these are all doctorates. Just not PhDs. So technically they should all be lumped under "doctoral" since the chart is being more broad than PhD
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I like this movie but the "Will DESTROYS smarmy IDIOT with verbal beatdown" scenes are so fucking cringe
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>>222795903
Libraries don't normally have late charges on books
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>>222798492
I once applied for a job, then got an email from them asking me to fill out a personality assessment. The HR even snobbishly asked me to complete it by the end of the day, otherwise they wouldn't proceed. I opened the link and found out it's a 100-page assessment. So i just closed the page and gave up on that job.
The next day, she emailed me asking me if i've completed the assessment. I straight up told her "Bitch please, I'm not filling out a 100-page assessment just for a stupid job." in the most polite manner.
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>>222798442
Education. Look man I'm trying to say things suck. I once got in trouble after an interview because I asked a question outside of the approved questions from HR.
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>>222795903
Will was actually retarded that’s the whole point of the movie
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>>222798698
>not using that as opportunity to suggest massive incompetence and unusual business practices on her part, forever scarring her self-confidence
weak
that is why you have no job
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>>222798774
I believe me telling her that i'm not gonna fill out a 100-page assessment of hers has already sent a similar message. And I got a better job
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>>222797044
The three American phdsive known were all some flavour of brown and all retarded, one to the extent that he got fired for incompetence (he was a proper subhuman specimen)
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>>222798809
FAIR ENOUGH but I would have at least noted the "unusual" nature of this to sow the seeds of self-doubt
Nowadays I basically always get recommended or poached so HR can kiss my ass
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>>222798908
PhDs are literally retarded. I've interviewed one and when I asked her a question that everyone else would answer with "I'd google it" she said she'd request a training course LMAO like literally one of those worthless garbage youtube-tier courses that cost thousands and take three days
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University was never truly about learning, it was always about
1- Creating a bottleneck on which only those that go through it can get a degree and therefore reach higher positions
2- Social networking
And if you extend it enough, you can even say none of the school educations are really about "learning", as the system only got implemented to get kids out of the streets during peak business hours.
Its funny how people nowadays think we are progressively heading towards a dystopia, when in reality we've always been in one. We simply got accustomed to the old shit while being scared of the new crap coming ahead.
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Itt. Construction workers who can't even fix a pothole
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>>222795903
College filters the inept.

If you get a degree, you convey that you were responsible and competent enough to grind through [x] years of school where mommy and daddy aren't called if your grades are bad. A degree shows you have a basic level of responsibility and accountability. GEDers / diplomafags refuse to accept this because it blows the whole notion of "college is a waste" out of the water.

I'll put it to you basement-dwellers in a way maybe you can understand: there is a direct correlation between the likelihood that your living space is clean and your highest level of education.
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>>222798698
Same thing happened to me. I told her she was incompetent and in a Jew daycare job. I hope they logged my response
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ITT: people justifying the most massive predatory lending scheme in human history. 80% of you will graduate with a lifetime of debt, making the same amount of money as entry level no degrees.
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>>222798984
What you got out of talking to this woman is a hat she takes research seriously and you believe that "googling it" is an acceptable level of research. This is midwit behaviour.
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>>222798349
he literally says experience can bypass a degree
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>>222799179
Idk about you, but in my country, higher education is fairly affordable since there's no jews here
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>>222797102
This, I remember using it as a kid in the early 2000s and I don't even remember where I got it from because I didn't watch the movie until I was 16. It was definitely being used normally prior to whatever the fuck he claimed it gained popularity
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>>222799179
>most massive predatory lending scheme in human history
true

Idk how much tuition is now but in 2014 I paid $40k for 4 years at a basic bitch state school, make $120 now debt free, was worth it because all these jobs would have slammed the door in my face with no degree
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>>222798984
I mean if she answered "google it" like everyone else, then she'd just be like everyone else and not stand out.

>>222799174
Based
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>>222796333
no its for ffucking prime pussy
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>coworker has a doctorate in psychology
>I make more than he does
College is a ponzi scheme lmfao
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>>222799179
>paying for school
lol, lmao even
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>>222799436
>Idk how much tuition is now but in 2014 I paid $40k for 4 years at a basic bitch state school, make $120 now debt free, was worth it because all these jobs would have slammed the door in my face with no degree
The median for tuition alone is $48k now.
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>>222799316
Actually that's someone who cannot assess a situation correctly, who cannot select the correct approach for the situation at hand and has no fucking clue how to work effectively, aka a PhD.

>>222799440
Well there were varieties of "I'd look it up" but that's basically the same. You could also reply with a question, like asking if there are internal guidelines or knowledge bases. Really anything would have been better.
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>>222799492
Please telling it's at least a clinical or counselling psychology and not the generic one
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>>222798478
You're late for your shift at Denny's Mr. Political Science.
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>>222799612
Please tell me*
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>>222795917
Applesauce, bitch
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>>222798908
Most PhD’s are immigrants cause that’s basically the only way to come here legally if you don’t have $1,000,000 in the bank
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>>222799179
If you are willing to work very very hard and are smart/talented you can be successful with/without education. If you’re smart and work hard you can use the education system to put yourself far far ahead. If you go to Harvard or Wharton you can get into the top finance jobs that will make you a multimillionaire by 35. It’s much harder to have that kind of success on your own without the access to capital that these graduates get.
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>>222795903
99% of normies are too dumb but to eat it served up on a nice plate. for this reason college is necessary. if autists like will hunting were the norm, it wouldn't be necessary



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