>>222808431GiTS 95 is actually a miracle.It the only example I can think of where the adaptation is vastly superiour to the source material. How did they do it?
OP is a pseud.
>>222808536Mixture of strong art style and animation, ambience-heavy soundtrack, Oshii being into masculine chicks, and fairly straightforward transhumanism and AI themes. It generally has aged well too, but its better scenes have become so iconic that they underwhelm now when actually watching the film, and aside from those scenes, it offers little animation-wise.>>222808787How?
>>222808431The Japs just couldn't fucking help themselves and crammed in stupid silly shit.
Japanese stuff being very Japanese-y isn't for everyone, or most people. That's why they stick to DBZ and such. Your loss. Episode 7 was a visual treat.
I liked 1995 Ghost in the Shell but it was product of its time just like Akira. There was a whole movement of this deep atmospheric cyberpunk you cannot recreate today, so expecting something similar in 2026 is stupid. If you like 1995 movie just rewatch it. Stop giving attention to new media, just stick with old stuff. There's enough for it for your whole lifetime.
>>222809036Oops didn't mean to spoiler.
>false dichotomy meant to promote retarded fighting ignoring any actual issues with either beyond surface depth observationsThis site is an unusable shithole full of baiting retards that don't actually want to discuss anything, just piss each other off because their brains are broken and it's the only thing they find fun anymore.
>>222808952>crammed in stupid silly shit.Why do they always do that shit? There's always some cringe "funny" scene even in most serious animes.
>>222808431They said they adapt the manga 1:1, so they did adapt the manga 1:1.The manga is that silly and over the top.
>>222809036>Your loss.No, I like the goofy stuff. >>222809052>Stop giving attention to new media, just stick with old stuff. There's enough for it for your whole lifetime.Never. I could never be so mindrotted as to give up on the present and future. Some old things not being redoable is hardly a worry since a lot of new things wouldn't have been doable back then. Things being products of their times is neither positive nor negative.
>villain is evil because... he stole a bunch of Russian gold and used it to turn into a woman
>>222809178>a lot of new things wouldn't have been doable back then. Yeah, there was more quality control back then, you’re right about that.>Things being products of their times is neither positive nor negative.of course it can be a negative. Look at current hollywood, then say that again. Or even this new Ghost in the Shell, it’s fucking slop. I got in three or four episodes, and told myself, no more. I agree with you about not watching something simply because it’s new or old, but I’m also not watching trash, because it is based on something that was good once. The show isn’t fun, or funny, or exciting. The action sucks, it’s boring. Just admit it anon. You are watching, because you don’t know what else to watch.
>>222808904 "How?"see >>222809152
>>222809152>they did adapt the manga 1: .95Censored the sex
>>222809251wtf she has the sharingan?
>>222810225>sheKagasaki is literally a whole ass nigga with a deep voice who only is only ever referred to as "he/him" and looked like a fat ugly rapist before he embezzled millions of dollars to scoop his brain out and put it in a robot designed to look like a sexy marble statue
Ghost in the Shell has fallen.
>>222810553billions must watashi moe
>>222809079The jar jar binks robots in the GITS TV show were so infuriating i had to stop watching it.Ed in cowboy bebop was so infuriating i almost dropped that too but i stuck with it.Thank god Samurai Champloo and Appolon had no "wacky comic relief" characters.
>>222810980>The jar jar binks robots in the GITS TV show were so infuriating i had to stop watching it.lmaoin the new show they literally cry with tears and make cat faces and do synchronized psychedelic dances
>>222811016How embarrassing.
>>222809251It never ceases to amaze me how modern anime looks like shit.What happened to the japanese and why do people still keep consuming this crap?
>>222811065Their economy shit the bed in 1991.It wasn't long after that they all ran out of money and the visual quality of anime fell off a cliff.
>>222808536>How did they do it?It's a mess, makes zero sense.But it has consistent, high quality art and music, and character design.And somehow, they resisted the urge to include wacky noodle limbed characters and a hot springs scene where someone gets a nosebleed and there's a *boing* sound effect.
>>222811063Look at him go!
>>222808431/a/ has already BTFO your shit taste in annie mays (japanese or otherwise)Now you come to /tv/ to cryYou're a dirty fucking nigger and you should kill yourself now
>>222809810>Yeah, there was more quality control back then, you’re right about that.Hardly. If anything, there was focus on different things. >Look at current Hollywood, then say that again. Okay? I don't see the issue. For one, Hollywood isn't the only place making movies. And as far as the quality of Hollywood's output goes, survivorship bias is doing a lot of heavy lifting justifying your type of opinion.>Just admit it anon. You are watching, because you don’t know what else to watch.TGitS is fun. The writing, sloppy as it may be, is no worse than Innocent's or even 1995's for the most part. To say I'm watching it because I don't know what else to watch is hilarious, seeing how there are at least 5 watch-worthy seasonal anime airing.
>>222808536>How did they do it?Mamoru Oshii.
>>222811182>/a/ has already BTFO your shit tasteI don't browse /a/.>You're a dirty fucking nigger and you should kill yourself nowGo burn.
>>222811145>It's a mess, makes zero sense.>But it has consistent, high quality art and music, and character design.This is somehow even worse in the sequel
>>222808536it was /film/ not /a/, therefore it had to be the highest kino.
>>222808431>>222808536The new show is so based for rustling out all of the pseuds who think the gits movie is super deep and meaningful when it's actually as deep as a puddle and the writer literally screams the point of the movie at you directly pretty early in. There is nothing deep about the movie, it's just animated well and has solid music
>>222808536Gits fucking sucked ass and was dead boring the entire time, aside from about 5 shots
>>222811280>/film/115 IQ>/a/100 IQThe midwits are fighting again.
>>222811016cringe
>>222811333nice gets.. so what do the true 150 IQ conaisseurs watch?
>>222808431Please,.go back to /a/.
>>222811145>It's a mess and makes zero sense.Every time I read stuff like this about movies/TV shows that I've watched and understood entirely, I wonder if I'm just smarter than average or if people don't pay attention at all.So many posts say that Primer takes a billion rewatches to understand. People complain that they can't follow the basic logic of Nolan slop like Tenet or The Prestige.Are you people just fucking retarded or something?
>>222811489Adult Swim cartoons
>>222808536>It the only example I can think of where the adaptation is vastly superiour to the source materialthe fight club film is better than the book
>>222811507Most people that comment on shows on social media haven't even watched them. Its like 30% have never seen anything, 40% watch tiktok or youtube summaries only, and of the 30% that did, most are doing it on a phone or on a screen while also on their phone, or in a little pop out window in the corner while they play a game or whatever. Maybe 10% of people talking about a show actually gave it their full attention, and that's optimistic.
>>222811145>It's a mess, makes zero sense.
i'm brown braining hard with this new one
>>222808431Bottom literally looks like something from the manga
>>222811625this show is so ass
>>222810980>Thank god Samurai Champloo and Appolon had no "wacky comic relief" characters.Fragile masculinity.
>>222811681i'm pumping
>>222811811Censored>>222811681Israel not namedropped
>>222811489porn with an interest for the plot
>>222811148Cute!
>>222808536You're a tasteless retard if you think that.
>>222809052It's only 'deep and atmospheric' because the film is slow and doesn't have a lot of movement for most of its runtime. You are a psychological mirror that just replicates the tone and style of the show you're watching.It is shallower and dumber than the '26 version. But characters frown and stare off into space more so you interpret it as deeper.
>>222811016
>>222814111
>>222811282>animated well and has solid musicAnd the show is based for... not having anything?! Woah. I actually don't think that many people find gits deep. I think they just always liked Buddy cop movies in unique cities. But i hope you enjoy the bathhouse scene where the major shows her le boobies and then everyone gets a le nosebleed. So based. Maybe all the characters can get a big head and scream for no reason.
>>222814207>Maybe all the characters can get a big head and scream for no reason.lol Major does this several timesshe gets the cross-shaped vein too, and all her teeth turn into fangs
gaijins be like>it's le dark... and le mature... le no fanservice...
>>222814207>But i hope you enjoy [anime]I will thank you
Just popping in to say that Patlabor 2 is kino. That is all.
>>222814317Strange, cause you are on /tv/ not the designated low quality media board /a/
>>222814317lol
>>222808431Bottom is a better adaption of Ghost in the Shell. And no the entire thing isn't goofy, there are moments of goofiness and a whole lot of serious stuff. The goofy moments are in keeping with the actual manga. The 90s movie is great but its not a good adaption.
>>222809052>There was a whole movement of this deep atmospheric cyberpunk you cannot recreate todayOh really? Did special trees they made the paper they drew them on go extinct? Was there a special shrine where a shrine maiden farted the pencils out of her asshole and she died so they can't draw anymore? Wow I knew the japanese took their craft seriously but I had no idea it was that special.
>>222814384why do you browns hate anime so much?
>>222814335The show is better than his movies.
>>222808431never read the manga huh??faggot tourist be gone
OH LAWD DEM SHELLS
Westerners are so compassionate and noble that they have a duty to tell you every day that what Japanese people create is lowbrow and not real art.
>>222814481You can't even read.
>>222814440No i like gits. All the "shitty" anime that /a/ days is overrated, i think is the peak of the medium. I'm just not that entertained by very simple very ugly art. Gits had wooden dialogue already and is not deep. And it is still ten times more bearable then whatever flat color dramed low framerate garbage im sure you claim to like. Not like people from /a/ ever actually say they like something. Because that would invite them to be subject to actual criticism. Even in defending The girs new anime, you could only say you liked it in context of the 1995 one. You said nothing positive about the show itself.
>>222814545>I don't think about you at a-CK
>>222808431>Nooooo you don't understand the manga is corny and childish so the anime has to be corny and childish otherwise it's a bad adaptation
>>222814545No. I think they just call the lowbrow stuff lowbrow. The good stuff they makes receive universal acclaim. Sorry buddy, spirited away and cowboy bebop are loved by everyone who doesn't desperately need to feign being original. Kurosawa has tons of world famous respected movies.
>>222814572I'm from /a/ and I consider at least 468 shows to be average or above. 147 to be really good. 64 to be must watchAnd 18 that were memorable enough that I won't forget for the rest of my life. Am I allowed to have an opinion? Challenge me on anything and I'll tell you why I like or don't like it.
>>222808431i watched the first 2 episodes and was shocked just how different it is from the movie or old seasons, is this really how the manga is?also any chance of majors booba in any episode???
>>222814729Sure go ahead. Tell me your top 2 anime movies and top 2 anime shows
>>222814731>also any chance of majors booba in any episode???>Amazon LolLmao
>>222808536Bullshit. The manga, and by extension the new series is better than the Oshii movie. And Stand Alone Complex mogs both, honestly. I don't get why people like the movie so much, it's so dull and ponderous. The only Oshii flicks I like are his live action comedies. Talking Head is really good and Red Spectacles is a masterpiece. Seriously, it's like a low budget Japanese Brazil.
>>222808431Both seem fine to me, there's room for both. It sucks that the 90s anime style is a lost art and won't that type of visual will never be produced again, but you can always go back and revisit it.
>>222811507You must be a fat liar or an actual genius, because there's no way you watched tenet once and understood it pdrfectly.
>>222814757Haven't seen any anime movies, don't know why but just never got into them. Got a ton listed to try on a rainy day sometime in the future. I'll list four shows instead.Can't say I have a particular favorite order, these are all just the peak of what I enjoy but if I had to put one above them all it would probably be Code Geass but it has a lot of bias being one of the first shows I ever watched and it's hard to beat the imprint that makes. 1:Code Geass2:Ping Pong3:864:Chuunibyou
>>222814834>because there's no way you watched tenet onceLike he said he is high iq. I did the same thing. Without watching once i understand completely that it is not worth it.
>>222814834You need to cut down on the Brawndo if nolan films are a mental hurdle for you.
>222814888Meds, now
>>222814976He digitally dominated you, take it like a man.
>>222814811Could it be the incredible animation and accessible length? We may never know.
>>222814932I don't have a problem with them usually, but tenet specifically was a headache to comprehend the mechanics of.For example, let's say you're fighting a masked version of yourself, and trying to enter a turnstile. Reversed-you escapes and flees the scene. Why do you not enter the turnstile?
>>222815069Because the turnstile was a metaphor for the stages in your life. You weren't ready to progress yet.
>>222814880Well code geass definitely had it's own style which makes it much more watchable. But if you don't like stuff that acts deeper than it is, then i didn't know how you could enjoy code geass. Haven't seen it since middle school, but i remember a fuckton of exposition over very simple concepts. A problem that tons of anime suffers from. Ive been meaning to watch ping pong. Looks original. The other two are what i was talking about. Unoriginal art, bland characters, lame unoriginal music, tone deaf...etc. All of which are so obviously present just by looking them up on Google images. They look identical to sword art online and i bet they are about as deep. I have yet to see any anime that is longer than 3 seasons and worth it. You cannot imagine my disappointment when i watched 1997 berserk and waited years for a continuation of the plot, only to find that it suffered anime rot. Complete with blushing lolis and a annoying generic child following around his hero who also never gives up. So god damn lame.I thought gits was a beautiful movie and at least iconic scenes. It's a movie i can put on for a gf, a close friend, or just a get together. It's a classic, like the matrix or naked gun. Meanwhile the show will go back on the shelf of derivative lazy semi fleshed animes.
>>222815012He shat himself publicly and aggressively. That's not worth (you)ing.
>>222815096I see. So by "understand it totally" you meant "understood absolutely nothing". That does make a lot of sense.
Oh good, a millenial Nolanigger; hey, you're a faggot and insufferable. You're gay. Your taste sucks, ackshually.
>>222808431I love 100% of all things that are new and if you disagree then you’re a nazi and should be killed.
>>222815227Based centrist
>>222815115I don't know what I expected but it wasn't that. Well it's /tv/ so I guess I should have expected something like that. Anyways as a fob you're going to have to learn some rules to enjoy anime. First rule is 99.9% of the time anime is not going to tell a complete story. It's advertisement for a manga or book. Berserk 1997 stands on it's own and needs nothing else to be appreciated. Secondly anime is beloved mostly for it's earnestness. American media is based on irony and not being able to enjoy anything at face value because they are terrified of revealing their true feelings and being judged. Almost every anime has at least one thing it does well. Often times that's enough, you can enjoy it for that thing even if it doesn't come together to be a masterpiece.
>>222815069Because you didn’t enter the turnstile right before fighting yourself, the you you fought is you from two weeks in the future doing a temporal pincer movement. The movie was straightforward as fuck, people trick themselves into thinking it’s more confusing than it is. Anyway the whole movie is an excuse for Nolan to film interesting action scenes, the movie itself even tells you to just stfu and watch a guy reverse Bungie jump onto a building.
>>222815207KEK, only one of us is getting dominated by another man tonight, nonny
>>222815338gurl I wish ;-*
>>222815288>you didn’t enter the turnstile right before fighting yourselfCorrect. You have not entered the turnstile. >becauseNo, you misunderstand: WHY don't you go into the turnstile? What is the cause that produces this effect, relative to your perspective?
>>222808431Glad f/a/gs finally found out 'original' gits is just old ass geezer boomer coomer shit
>>222815366Call me Will Smith then cuz I make one fuckugly genie
>>222808536SAC is better than the movie by a wide margin.
>>222815429I thought I had purged that vision from my memory.
>>222815261>American media is based on irony and not being able to enjoy anything at face value because they are terrified of revealing their true feelings and being judged.Biggest reason i don't watch new movies. If lethal weapon were made today, mel would constantly be quipping about depression. But i think that I'm general people are getting tired of that "hey guys isnt it nuts we are in a movie?" Kind of dialogue. But anime definitely has it's own problems with being "genuine". Like i watched all of great teacher onizuki because when it was good it was great. I guess what I'm trying to say is that anime needs better editors in general. Because when they actually try to cut the fat from their shows and movies they are insta classics. Like i get wanting to have a huge titted femme fatale, but maybe you dont need a pervy old guy that gets a nosebleed in the bathouse? Like why waste 5 minutes for that scene? Like you said it's honest which is better then dishonesty. Like i can watch and enjoy inuyasha, and i cannot watch modern western shows or movies, but i think alot of anime watchers see that and think they have to embrace all aspects of anime tropes. Its just very grating. I watched all of outlaw Star, and thought holy cow is that cat girl hot, but the whole harem of hot bitches severly tanked the narrative of the stories in each episode.
>>222814425Yeah it balances the goofy and the serious quite well, reminds me of pre-Kyoto Rurouni Kenshin (the OG anime adaptation of it)
Anime's biggest problem is the poison of remakeitis seeping in from western influence. Every fucking remake has been a hot steaming shit. Mass censorship and butchering of the art style.
>>222815498>Yeah it balances the goofy and the serious quite wellDoes it really? The clip in the OP pic begs to differ.
>>222808536Like most of this anime movies that get praised as masterpieces, it's a shit movie that's pretty to look at
>>222809052>deepAm I man or...LE MACHINE???
>>222815553A question that humanity will face more and more as technology improves. Seems like a pretty timeless concept. The fact that we are still talking about it all these years later proves it stands the test of time.
Crayon Shin-chan films are lowbrow AND art, I don't know where this nauseating pomposity comes from when Americans talk about anime, as if anything these retards have been lapping up on Netflix is better in any way. You had four years of a shadow government and didn't do jack shit, fucking losers. Sit down and shut up.
>>222811065Same as most things related to animation. Being underpaid and on strict deadlines.
Give me redhead Kusanagi or give me death.
>>222814880>1:Code Geass>2:Ping Pong>3:86>4:ChuunibyouDecent, but Top 4 material?
>>222810980Ed is a cutie and she's the only reason worth watching Cowboy Bebop.
>>222815723Are you still going with "we don't think about you at all" or are you dropping that and going all in on the relentless seething angle?
>>222815863I'm a man of simple tastes, if something makes me feel strongly I like it and those 4 all made me feel very strong emotions. I'm sure there are technically much better ones out there and as I said it's not a strict list I have a large handful of shows I would consider to be just as good.
>>222814273Fucking cringe
>>222815827anime is soo fucking coombrained
>>222815922Women are inherently sexual by their very nature. Everything about them from their bodies to their voices to their very thoughts are all built for the purpose of attracting a mate. American puritanism has poisoned the minds of generations. There is nothing wrong with womens sexuality being showcased. They do it themselves at every opportunity even without the help of men.
>>222809065Problem?
Yes, there are good things still being made and there's no reason to dwell in nostalgia.
>>222811065>>222811084you guys really keep pushing this bullshit gaijin narrative for some reason but a midnight otaku anime that only 2% of Japs watch and pre-90s anime that aired nationwide in the evening and was watched by 20% of Japanese households are two different things. It's like retarded chinks compare blockbuster movies to small-scale art films and say something like “ah, this is because the US economy has slumped”.
>>222815922The author of Ghost in the Shell actually wrote a bonafide You Just Know kinoAnd if you're wondering why the horse has human hands, it's because the girl lactates uncontrollably as a deep form of symbolism for her character arc and the horse regularly needs to relieve herAnd oddly enough, like Appleseed and Dominion Tank Police, THIS might also be canon to Ghost in the Shell
>>222815905Are you a retard confusing me with someone else or are you a retard confusing me with someone else?
>>222815227This but unironically
>>222815968>Welcome to the Ballroom>Undead Girl Murder Farce>Kizumonogatari>Virgin Punk: Clockwork GirlI've seen the others you mentioned, loved all of them. The monogatari series has been on my watch list forever but I'm bad about starting very long series it's hard to get the motivation. Every year I say it's the year I'm going to watch LOGH and it never happens. Thanks for the reqs, I'll check out those other three I'm sure I'll enjoy them.
>>222815911Some recs:Welcome to the BallroomUndead Girl Murder FarceClannadRanking of KingsJormungandKizumonogatariVirgin Punk: Clockwork GirlBlue Box>>222815970Very true.
>>222815963Hey buddy every creature is sexual in nature. Yet here we are wearing clothes. Because unlike animals we have things like nuance, and more going on in our head then just fucking. So when i want to draw a cool robot i don't have to make it a porno everytime. Like how in sound of music the nuns arent all big titted bimbos like they are in many anime. And Americans are very very far from puritan. If they were more puritan their media would be much better. Much like japan's is when they don't think like you. As in chronic masturbater. Yes japan makes media not centered around porn. Not that you would know because your problem is you have no taste.
>>222816002Will Smith should have starred in this WWW
>>222816125I kinda feel bad for Big Willy. He was excellent here, MIB, ID4... thank you Big Willy.
>>222816062No, I'm a person with a triple digit iq, who can form conclusions. Which is why i know which posts you made. I did this by "thinking". Which you should try after taking a few deep breaths
>>222808536FMA 2003 is also another case. Brotherhood is badly paced and filled with le funny face scenes on top of having immeasurably worse direction, and otakus like it because it's more faithful to the manga. Anime fans have zero taste or discernment of art.
I'm really glad that gaijin's opinions are still mostly irrelevant to Japan, at least. If Japan were part of the West, salty Asians, the woke crowd, and the Jewish media would destroy almost everything Japanese within a year.
>>222816118Ok, sorry it's not to your taste.
>>222816196I'm sorry to tell you, you're not actually that smart. My only other posts are shitting on Nolan and saying OP is a pseud.
>>222816209>this cartoon needs to takes itself so I can feel like a big boy. No funny faces allowed
>>222816118You clearly have some deep seated issues, calm down Peter it's just entertainment.
Anime was simply better in the 80s and 90s.
I do miss the more mature looking characters.
>>222808431well, japan peaked in the 80s/90s and then they went bankrupt hard on the end oh the 90s. Can't blame them. Back in those times they had so much money and resources overall that the quality of the animation was insane.
>>222816118>Because unlike animals we have things like nuance>indian tribs are fully nude all the time from womb to tomb>they don't think about sex at all really unless they're feeling frisky>victorian era women are clad head to toe in thick fabric designed to hide their sexuality>men start getting uncontrollable erections from seeing bare ankles
>>222815827I found a poster portfolio of Shirow's art a while back. Cyberdelics. It was a box with a bunch of medium sized posters and extras.
>>222816196>I'm a person with a triple digit iq100 is still average and comparatively retarded
>>222808431>>222814273to be fair the silly-wiggle and scary-face stuff is a manga thing to visually indicate the tone of voice a character is using. In an anime its redundant and pointless, as the voice actor will simply use the appropriate tone of voice.
>>222811065it's basically calcification and ossificationanime was such a successful export that the demand for all other animation was strangled, now anime is the only thing they know how to make and teachthe same thing is happening with gacha games, they're so ludicrously successful that there's zero incentive to make anything else and all of asia is caught in the orbit
>>222816444trips of homosexuality (three fours instead of three threes) you are the weakest link. Goodbye.
>>222816532>japanese animation>other than animenigger what
>>222816544don't like the truth huh
Rally round tha famry with a Ghost up in a Shell
>>222816564>only I know the REAL truth, I'm the REAL expertyou're a REAL faggot.
>>222810980The tachikoma in the original SAC complex run were goated you're cray.
>>222811507
>>222816626Not an expert, just not someone who's in denial. Certain manga-isms are appropriate in anime, like the sweat-drop and dread-lines, as those would be non-vocal cues. But anything meant to visually indicate a tone of voice is redundant when there's a voice actor.
The key to selecting animated works is to only ever watch stuff where the art and animation looks amazing, looks smooth, looks expressive, and looks expensive. It sounds counterproductive but your topmost consideration must be the quality of the animation itself. It is always, 100% of the time, a reflection of the level of care that has gone into the finished product. There will never be a piece of media that has an amazing worthwhile story but which looks like Season 3 of One Punch Man or this GitS reboot slop. The moment you get the feeling something is trading on its name and cutting corners on animation, you're over it. It can't look like it was made in a Korean sweatshop by the lowest bidder. It HAS to look like dozens of artists poured years of their lives into making this thing, like a labour of love, even though they knew that it was only going to be seen by a handful of autists and make no money. If you follow this rule the worst you will ever see is an average story with beautiful animation.
>>222808431>music and TV used to feature gritty, melancholic stories>everyone was happy>nowadays, every piece of media revolves around cheerful, enthusiastic stories>everyone is anxious and depressedit’s an interesting phenomenon to note
>>222816699Oh yeah? Go watch "Avenger" from BeeTrain studios, faggot. Looks good don't it? Terrible. Kemonozume looked the way it did and that was better than Avenger (much better.) This better be bait you had AI write because it is preposterously pretentious and demonstrably incorrect.
>>222808536thats thanks to mamoru oshii.He also did Urusei yatsura anime and beautiful dreamer, Both VAaastly superior to the manga.Some cases of anime superior to the source are trigun for example.
>>222808431fag
>>222817015Looks like shit, I wouldn't watch it.
>>222816699>The moment you get the feeling something is trading on its name and cutting corners on animation, you're over it.That's how I feel about 99.9% of all the anime I've ever seen.
>>222811489Spice and Wolf
>>222808431Go back to /a/
>>222809251Nice spoiler you fucking nigger
>>222808431The goofiness is fine and manga accurate but Dominion Tank Police was goofy while its animation and art style obliterates nu-GITS
Everything after Ghost in the Shell and Innocence is not /tv/ and should fuck off to /a/
>>222819099Not to mention an utterly bitching soundtrack.https://youtu.be/agPtVL1XS60?t=4709
>>222816209>FMABased. I've maintained this forever not to mention the older one had far better artwork
>>222816209>Anime fans have zero taste or discernment of art.For them it's pure escapism and they don't want it to be anything else.
Niggers need to accept you're not gonna get 80s and 90s grit anymore and appreciate the modern charm for its merits
>>222810980I stopped watching Hellsing Ultimate the moment they introduced the fucking CATBOY character. What the actual hell. Was a 10/10 until that moment.
>>222819250I don't need 80s or 90s grit I need fidelity to its own setting and not these breaks of chibi and stupid fucking Japanese humor. It's especially disheartening because if this doesn't do well GitS might go to sleep for 20 years.
>>222818775>discussing anime on /a/LMAO
>>222819289>if this doesn't do well GitS might go to sleep for 20 years.Don't worry it's one of the strongest performing anime of the year
>>222814731>is this really how the manga is?Yes, the original manga is very much early Dragonball style, the adaptation whiplash is comparable to Mario games vs Mario Bros movie adaptation, but it worked out in GitS.
>>222819323You're not allowed to be critical of anything on /a/, except naruto le m00t x'D, because that makes you a secondary (despite having 800 titles to your name) o algo.The board has become so ass.
>>222819354Really? That's nice to hear.
>>222819323Go back tranny
>>222819250>Niggers need to accept you're not gonna get 80s and 90s grit anymoreWRONG:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NevWq6SSqg4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl3kot88y9U>bubububut AI le bad!It's a tool, not a villain. Luddites were also whining about the camera, then whining about CGI...
>>222816326It's like Spiderverse animation.
>>222819379Is this nigger genuinely implying cg still isn't a cornercutting scourge actively enshittifying the medium?
>>222819379Good morning, sir.
>>222819377As trannies are talmudic creatures and /tv/ is the most judeo-adajacent board, it's in fact the natural habitat of the tranny.
>>222816991Depressed and anxious people want to forget for a little bit. Happy and content people want to dip into a dark place for some excitement.
>>222819379>Lügnerwow I wonder what his character traits are
>>222808431This Major is sexy, slutty, funny and badass, what would men want more?
>>222810225Like poetry
>>222819475A trad wife, not a whore
>>222811811>>222811625i gotta say i do enjoy the tiny bits of fanservice every now and then
>>222808536I think the 2017 movie is much better.
>>222819946lmaoain't happening, cucksluts are great
>>222808431We lost the technology to make s o v l f v l animation, people relied too much on tweening animation and CACAni.
>>222808431>a director trying way too hard to make a SERIOUS movie with MATURE themes for SERIOUS peoplevs>the original material featuring random violence, sex, political satire, silliness and dark comedyMamoru Oshii was always a pretentious faggot.
>>222814207>>222814273>I am a newfag and I have no idea about anime'k
>>222808536Blocks your path.
>>222811257This
>GitS in 2026
>>222820093shalom
>>222808536How is it better than Blade Runner?
>>222814811>Bullshit. The manga, and by extension the new series is better than the Oshii movie.its really isn't>SAC mogs bothYou're right there.
>>222820407>nothing to do with the source material>it's vastly superior to itKubrickfags are pathetic
>>222820458You lost tranny
>>222808431>You should too.No. OG Ghost In The Shell has SOVL, while Nu Ghost In The Shell is soulless.
it's actually a very good adaptation, the kind that elevates the original work while still being true to it, of a very overrated manga
I really do hate how there’s no more good anime cause they found out pedophiles are more likely to buy the merchandise.
>>222808536>only example I can think of where the adaptation is vastly superiour to the source material
>>222820755>kino director makes better film than some hack writer writes booksColour me shocked.
>>222821122I would say this about most marvel movies. You pick up any random Spider-Man or x-men book and it’s impossible to follow because they all reference stories from 20 years ago cause that’s what the current author grew up reading.
>>222808431The new series is just based more closely on the manga.
I like both. Obviously Oshii's adaptation is one of the best anime movies made (though not one of his own best) but that doesn't mean the new one needs to aim for the same highs. Even still, it's a disservice to claim that GitS 2026 is entirely silly moments, it has heavy moments and seriousness when it needs to.
>>222815406simply because ergo vis-a-vis concordantly
2026 version is fine but it feel very late to the partyI always held the manga in high regard but I think my brain gave a different interpretation of it and I kind of glossed over the chibi shit - most of which was also kept in the corners. Here the format is different and the levity of including them is too much
>>222808787OP is normal; you are a gaylord.
So where does the Standalone Complex sit here? It has the worst of both worlds: and animation and not being faithful to the comic.
>>222821480>OP is normalnot really the dunk you think it is rapebaby.
>>222811257Yep. Anime's version of The Shining, really
>>222820457this film was garbage though
>>222811065Because no one learned the skills from the old masters. That skill and knowledge wasn't passed on.Modern animators literally don't know how to do it like the old guard.Happened to Eastern and Western animation.
>>222821506>best major design >best story >doesn't follow the shitty manga >major likes boys Its the best
>>222814545>someone actually made this unironicallyyikes...
>>222821163>I would say this about most marvel moviesHell no. Most MCU movies at least are awful adaptations
>>222811811In the manga is a full blown orgy.
>>222822031Good. Cuz that meme is correct
>>222809036>Japanese-y is synonymous for retarded moe shitSure
>>222815970From time to time i keep going back to AoT's armored&colossal reveal, DemonSlayer's first Kagura dance and the Made in Abyss my precious scene, they are that good.
>>222821177It's impossible to get honest answers in the era of short-form media. Gifs do a great job framing a moment of levity as though it's the entire show, and vice versa.
>>222811257Basically yeah. Oshii does this for most stuff he touches though. His Patlabor movies are also vastly superior and not even comparable to the regular Patlabor. >>222808536Shirow has always been mediocre. His version of GITS is Appleseed tier at best. That´s just the extent of his skills. GITS only got big because of Oshii. That said it´s not the only adaptation superior to its source. Kazuhiro Furuhashi Rurouni Kenshin Tsuioku-hen is one of the best anime movies out there and it´s also vastly superior to Watsuki´s original story albeit true enough, unlike Shirow, Watsuki is actually competent. Honestly those kind of adaptations were what got me into anime so seeing all the new ones feels kind of painful.
>>222822248I've watched the whole show and it is genuinely annoying how they will be covering material very grim and dramatic and then someone's head will swell up to 400% sizeIt is also annoying how there is so much technobabble and exposition that is both rushed AND meaningless, that characters have rapid-fire conversations about shit that you'll strain to understand but also will never come up again
If you serious cinema only fart sniffers don't like silliness in your Japanese cartoons you can wait till Netflix drops cyberpunk in October instead of whining that Ghost in the Shell is too faithful for your refined tastes.
>>222821506Honestly thought it was a good in-between, Major was serious enough and it gave us all the action stuff
>>222808536SAC mogs the '95 movie.
>>222814545good shit, saved.
>>222821555
>>222822335cyberpunk is cringe retard shit for gay faggots
>>222816209>>222819196I've found my brothersFor me, it was the homunculi being the result of the natural consequences of transfiguration instead of creations by le secret big bad in the background, among other plot points that were just better.
>>222819475>>222819946Reminder that the Major is a male brain in a female cyborg body, that's why "she" is a lesbian
>>222816405I remember seeing that Made In Japan illustration in a lot of magazines back in the day.
>>222822008>>best major design
>>222820458The Major is canonically a freak though.
I wish they would have adapted the original Dominion manga after the prequel series. Greenpeace a cute.
>>222823902Yeah, low test idiot.
>>222823902>>222824032Her hottest design was from the PS1 game and it's not even a competition.
>>222822837>troon delusionsBut ok I will bite. Major's brain is an advanced electronic hardware and the hormonal system along with the wet parts are no longer there. How an entity like this can it be still considered a man or a woman?
>>222808431The fucking state of modern anime. AI anime slop is pumping out better stuff than this.
>>222816345>japan peaked in the 80s/90sNo? 80s were a pretty good decade for Japan, thanks to the economic rise and all the technology japs were producing at a fast rate, but the 90s were a fucking terrible decade for Japan. 90s Japan was full of economic bombs, sinking businesses, the rise of hikikomoris, and sky-high suicide rates. Your point about budgets also makes sense. Anime looking bad or good depends on the skill of the artists and animators, not the amount of money a studio has. Also, 80% of anime in the 80s and 90s looked like pic rel. Good-looking anime like GITS were in the minority.
>>222824300Why does he have a brawl with PikerJewish infighting?
>>222824162no ass
>>222824339Watch from 15:58.https://youtu.be/3NYvwVIaTN4
>>222824300If you feed it Madhouse stuff, sure. Looks great. But 90% modern(last 15 years) anime looks like trash.
>>222808431ara sou?
>>222821506Standalone Complex is amazing and the peak of the franchise. It's a fantastic cyberpunk detective anime with great art, fantastic animation, GOD TIER soundtrack by Yoko Kano, great writing, exciting action, characters that are not only intellectual but also human and charismatic for once, and a really cool storytelling that constantly switches between the main plot and episodic stories that flesh out the world. It has entertainment value without being shlocky like the original manga while also being intellectual without being boring, pretentious, and artsy fartsy like the movie.
>>222811282Nothing from Japan is deep or meaningful, you can appreciate something as beautiful and well made and be upset that at a drop in quality without thinking something is “important”
>>222824327They also had the Kobe earthquake in January 1995 that killed thousands of people. Then the Aum Shinrikyo subway gas attacks in March that were kind of like their 9/11. They didn't kill that many people but it really left a deep scar on the whole national psyche.
>>222824462>GOD TIER soundtrack by Yoko Kanohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVgSuuUTwQ
>>222819250This.
>>222809036>it's pretending that DBZ isn't "Japanese-y"delusional^delusional
>>222808787>>222809152>t. pseudsAnyone who thinks the new show captured the manga well is coping. None of the eroticism of the manga is in the show
>>222811489lain. it's the IQ meme where midwits are filtered and retards + geniuses enjoy it
>>222825130It's Chinesey, it started as a journey to the west parody and then went all in on cultivation tropes that eventually became shonen tropes
>>222811282and what do you think is super deep and meaningful in comparison?
>>222808431I enjoy bottom better. Top was great to look at but it was boring as fuck. I understand these movies are marvels of animation even now but my god is it boring.
>>222825198the humor is completely japanese and it's a comedy show at its core
>>222814175>superdeformed visual gag vs actually giving it huge dick sucking lipsPeople who like this show had no understanding of the manga whatsoever
>>222822031Is it wrong?
why are nips so incapable of keeping a straight face
>yikes...
the seethe in this thread is palpable. Why are you guys such performative queers?
>>222825374you guys literally seethe at japs every day, though
>>222825374why are you such a literal queer
>>222808431Cute and sexy grils on the bottom vs. ugly spherehunter looking tranny on top.
>>222825248Top is a less complex, more drawn-out, and very moody version of bottom. Ironically, similar things can be said about Innocence, except that in Innocence's case it doesn't work.
why do western audience hate genuine fun? they only seem to like jewish crap and subversie reddit humor.
>>222821174Any proof?
>>222825560>less complexFeel free to elaborate.
>>222824032She looks like a horse
>>222825692>blind anon
>>222825692Shut up faggot
>>222825662Transhumanism mechanics, character relations, and even more so institutional structures are way more complicated than how Oshii's GitS portrays them. Whoever said Oshii's philosophical musings and moments of silence are mistaken as depth by the midwit crowd was correct.
>>222825634>Any proof?
>>222808536You're legit a tasteless troglodyte pseud fuckin NIGGER if any of this was typed out unironically, get some soul you fart-sniffing faggot
>>222826065Disgusting ugly gay shit
>>222826235But enough about you little guy
>>222825762You should probably read the original manga sometime. Its the embodiment of wide as an ocean deep as a puddle. Oshii establishes more in two lines of dialogue than most of the manga does.
>>222826065Why is this new series so hideous?
>>222808431>everyone always talking about the 1995 movie>no one ever mentions the Mardock Scramble trilogy
>>222826235>>222826283You third world brownoids wouldn't know soul if you had one.
>>222826065I'm surprised he even bothers golfing. If it were me I'd never stop banging those bots.
>>222826283Because its trying to imitate the original manga's style without any real understanding of why it worked in the first place.
>>222826337If it "worked" then why did every adaptation change it?
>>222826277Not really. Oshii emphasizes differently, but it's not as though he achieves anything remarkable with GitS. Motoko fusing with the artificial consciousness that is the Puppet Master is only somewhat unique, and hardly that meaningful.
>>222826065I like the bounciness of all the tits in this but its not GitS. The only good GitS animation was the original one and every time they try to reboot and redraw everything it just erodes the iconic look and tone more, flanderizing and cartoonizing it more than the original's tachikomas ever did.
>anime thread>by people who don't watch or like animeI'm sure this will be a fun one.
>>222826476This is meant to be an anime website but I get the feeling the portion of people who actually like anime are very few. I'm amongst those who dislike 90% of anime other than a very narrow snapshot of high-quality/film-quality 80s and 90s anime films and occasionally porn.All other anime since and especially today is equivalent to garbage to me.
>>222818798Thanks
>>222826065Isn't this the story that's like Epstein's island, where they're harvesting souls from kidnapped kids to make lolibots for fat ugly bastards?
Call me a pleb but I enjoy the new GITS more than i did the 90s movie. Its weird going back to the 90s movie and it actually making sense now as the plot of the puppet master is kind of transplanted and chopped up. In the first 2-3 viewings i really had no fucking idea of what was going on plot-wise. Oshii is great at atmosphere but its at the expense of literally every other aspect of the film. GITS and honestly a lot of his other films are barely coherent. Angel's egg comes to mind. The new show seems to be able to do the more lighthearted stuff but with genuine kino peppered in there, episode 7 being a great example. The artstyle is also gorgeous.
>>222826512>gooner uncoid>thinks modern anime is badI love how you can never keep from telling on yourselves.
>>222808431the new Ghost in the Shell is way better than I was expecting. This is the first time GITS has been good since Stand Alone Complex anime in the early 2000's. I was starting to lose faith after the string of garbage they have been shitting out for the past 20 years.
>>222808431Anime lost it's soul after the early 2000s.Moeshit like this stupid retarded blob is the reason why it's dead.
>>222826418This is literally as close to the tone of the original manga as possible, stop talking like you know shit about fuck
>>222826277>Oshii establishes more in two lines of dialogueDialogue is atrocious to create depth in a visual medium. It doesn't work. The way to create depth is the organic or even inorganic use of layers of symbols. If you try to establish themes with dialogue, especially the kind straight out of philosophy class, you create a disconnect with the flow of visuals, and a particularly bad one if the visuals don't at least mirror said dialogue's theme. >>222826868Anime isn't dead. You are.
>>222826308>seething trannoid spergs out in defense of multibillion dollar franchisetop lel
>>222826555That would be GITS 2 Innocence>soulsIRC they were subjected to some kind of brain scan to improve the droids over and over again until they ended up with fried brains
>>222825296Japanese have been aping American media since the 60s, they're extremely good at it, but if you look back, everything they do is cause of the U.S
>>222821928Do you have any proof of it happening in the west too?
>>222808431I remember trying to watch Ghost in the Shell back in like 2000 because of a friend, who was really into asian animation. I never figured out what was so great about it. Felt it was nonsensical and the pacing was off. Style over substance.
>>222827226>I never figured out what was so great about itDoes it really matter? I watched it for anime tiddies and action scenes
>>222808536It's the number one greatest and most important anime ever made. It should be mandatory viewing for everyone. It's especially important to think about the ideas the film discusses now more than ever before for obvious reasons.
>>222826966A good example for a recent movie with minimum dialogue would be Motor City. It works wonderfully through its visuals... except that you never get fully immersed because chubby, wrinkly Shailene Woodley is very poorly cast as the object of desire and reason for mayhem.
>>222808431Hedonist coomer Motoko>robot Motoko desu
>>222827226>Felt it was nonsensicalDid you ask him to explain the plot, or were you too embarrassed
>>222826966>moeslop goy
>>222826966>muh visual mediumYou don’t watch shit on mute so you can just stop with this bullshit. As all it amounts to is (you) having trouble following dialogue and looking at the sceen, read: you’re mentally retarded and easily overloaded.
>>222826952And it turns out “as possible” for whoever’s doing it now is still further from what oshii accomplished
>>222827312You've really got a vendetta against this lady, I've seen you; what's your deal?
>>222827440>meme word + meme wordYou are a coward.>>222827470It's about rhythm, fuck nigga. Elaborate dialogue demands long pauses of motion. It works well in a medium where the consumer dictates pace, but not in film. Theatre gets away with it mainly because of theatrical acting, but film rarely employs that. Inefficient shit is inefficient whether your IQ's 80 or 140.>>222827570I don't. Think I've mentioned her two times total.
You guys are all watching the new Oshii Votoms films right?
>>222826382Yeah man. An artificial consciousness naturally evolving/emerging from a cyber warfare program, rebelling and trying to escape and then becoming involved with a human who’s been mostly converted into a physical warfare machine, composed of so much property tech that she’d be a nothing but a few scraps of brain matter if she quit, is just tots passé
>>222826358Because manga and anime are different mediums and what works in one doesn’t necessarily work in the other.
>>222827312>2025eugh
>>222827619>Elaborate dialogue demands long pauses of motion.Considering I’m referring to the meeting kusanagi is monitoring in the first scenes of ‘95, lmao. Also at the idea of “elaborate dialogue.” You really are a mental midget.
>>222825899? What does that have to do with the new anime?
>>222827876I don't find any of that hard to conceptualize nor, again, very meaningful.>>222827974>Considering I’m referring to the meeting Kusanagi is monitoring in the first scenes of ‘95I don't recall there being an essential difference between how the 2026 anime handled it and how Oshii's did. >You really are a mental midget.If you say so.
>>222827619I know. That's two times you were oddly obsessed with a woman's appearance, going out of your way to critique it. You couldn't just suspend your disbelief and think "people have different tastes", you had to make a point of saying she's "chubby and wrinkly". Not normal behavior. I'm diagnosing you with "literal nigger disease" and sentencing you to life on 4chan, or, you can try your luck against my henchman, FLAVA FLAVU~! and perish, you rapey, ashy, antisocial ass piece of shit nigga. xD
>>222828069I do say so and you just confirm it every time you post. You don’t find it hard to conceptualize it because I conceptualize it for you.
>>222828077Are you her simp or something?
>>222828104You missed the one actually relevant part where the AI develops consciousness through a series of interactions. You come off as a midwit with a chip on the shoulder desu.
>>222828199… because “emerge/evolve” doesn’t speak to that?
>>222808431
>>222828020>>222821174>>222825634
>>222828199What did you think about the relationship between the emergent but “artificial” conciseness being considered property despite the fact it was able to free itself under its own power, vs how kusanagi is maybe 1% human and utterly dependent upon proprietary technology to exist at all and could only be hypothetically released from servitude with the cooperation/permission of her employers, but is still recognized as human?
>>222828362Dude was trying to say because he has a sealed collectors edition of the original manga that he’s an authority on the original manga.
>>222828516>elaborate hypothetical legalism I think it borders on the homosexual to waste time on things like that. You are not gonna change my impression of you for the better, anon; only downhill from here.
