Arthouse, Classics, and the like(Are You) Experienced Edition >QOTDWhat is the definitive cinematic exploration of the cougar archetype?>Bonus Wish a belated Happy Birthday to the lovely Vera Miles.>Bonus'st'd've'ntAre there any older actresses that you would allow to exploit you in a Sunset Boulevardian fashion?Prev >>222786404
Queen of /film/
Laurence Olivier is relentlessly handsome
Woody Allen’s New Madrid-Set Movie Comes With Millions in Public Funding — and a Few Strings Attached>Over the past two decades, Woody Allen has delivered a string of cinematic love letters to Europe — from Barcelona to Rome to Paris — some of them carrying the glossy allure of tourist postcards. His late-career focus on Europe intensified after his already divisive profile in Hollywood took a hit when longstanding sexual abuse allegations resurfaced during the #MeToo era. >His next film is taking his European sojourn one step further: Scheduled to shoot from Oct. 5 in Madrid, the still-untitled project is being backed by millions in public funding tied explicitly to showcasing the Spanish capital on screen.>[...]>Some €3 million ($3.5 million) — $2.9 million after VAT deductions — is coming through grants from the Madrid Regional Government, announced last October, and Madrid City Council, made public in December.>Building on that base, Allen’s next film can aim to raise a further €4 million in Spain through a mix of tax credits ($2.3 million), a grant from Spanish film agency ICAA ($1.1 million) and a first-window TV prebuy ($1.1 million). That would still leave some $5.8 million to $7 million to be raised from international sales, a considerable challenge. Without the Madrid grants, however, Allen’s new film would probably not be made at all.
>>222816629Lovely edish, fren.Happy belated Vera!!
>>222816649BBBBRRRRRAAAAPPPPPPPP
>>222816629>Bonus'st'd've'ntIsabelle Huppert.
>>222816835Euros really don't care
What the fuck is happening in the previous thread? Can these dumb characterfagging retards fuck off to some Discord?
>>222817355CRA vs LH is deep /film/ lore, newfriend
>>222817389I've been here since the first 2020 threads
>>222817450Guess you haven't been here in a while, lmao.
>>222817355Just be glad they haven't dragged it into this thread.
>>222812493>it's his most accesible filmI always considered A Woman is a Woman to be his most accessible film, there's something very conventional and playful about it compared to the rest of his work
>>222816835that sounds like a very normal film deal, what 's the issue?
>>222816835Is Vittorio Storaro lensing?
>>222819202I would assume so. But it's not like this helped modern Woody Allen movies not look like shit anyway. They both lost their talent.
Die, bitches, die.
>>222819418Storaro just shoot a movie in China and is making (hopefully) the new Coppola movie this autumn
>>222816649Kill yourself
is My Sassy Girl (2001) /film/?
I'm just gonna set an hospital and an elementary school on fire for the lulz, very /film/ic
>>222820080-b-b-based
>>222816835Any woody allen film's that are mentioned in Korean films so that I can watch them? I think Midnight in Paris (2011) is referenced in The Beauty Inside (2015).
oh wait is woody allen like the white hong sang soo? I might pass then.
Be Melodramatic (2019) references Godard’s Contempt apparently.
>>222817355I don't give a fuck, I just wanna kill people then kill myself as soon as possible. Fuck the world, fuck people, fuck children, fuck everything, then die. No hope!
>>222820494ok but have you tried Jjajangmyeon?
>>222820544Nope!
>>222820578I always thought her mum was much cuter
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>>222820494Hope anon
>>222820797Fuck no! My only hope is to never again have to see a fucking human being disturbing my peace after death.
>>222820853but what if it's a cute girl that chases your bus down while you're on the way to a tall building to jump off?
>>222820962It's irrelevant because my body hurts and I just want to die.
>>222820982
Besides Antonioni movies and Playtime (1967) are there any movies that feature a lot of this kind of architecture? And I don't mean the movie having one frame like that.
>>222821498Generally speaking, poliziotteschi and giallos shot in Rome are your best betThey really loved their postwar modernism
>>222821652funnily enough I watched Fifth Cord a few days ago. Ending made me laugh out loud.
>>222821652>poliziotteschi60s-70s rome is just really aesthetic
>It's irrelevant because my body hurts and I just want to die.
anyone into this Civeyrac fella? I picked this at random out of my unwatched flicks folder the other night and quite liked it. the "film divided in 10 chapters and each chapter is a single long take" format could have been a disaster but it was handled elegantly enough to not come off as a display of technical virtuosity or formalism. some beautiful gals as well
>>222821652>giallosWe say gialli here
Vincent Giallo
hey guysanyone knows where I can find picreloriginal name is "Azghyin ushtykzyn' azaby"translated is something like "The Place on a Grey Tricorne", release 1993
>>222823316no seeders on avistaz unfortunately
>>222823439It's overTysm anyways, anon :)
>>222823455I'll add it and see if anyone reseeds just in case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd3qXH9qN70>A laid-off worker and his wife cross paths with a documentary filmmaker and her spouse and confront their hidden desires. By Lee Chang-dong ("Burning").
>>222816629>Are there any older actresses that you would allow to exploit you in a Sunset Boulevardian fashion?Sure. If by "older", you mean deceased.
These threads suck and you should feel bad
Thoughts on late Rossellini? Anyone here seen the Age of Medici miniseries?
>>222821652>>222821952I like the Rome of Argento's Tenebre.
>>222824363they do but i dont feel bad about it bc im not a pathetic sadfag
>>222823166Heh.
>Four newly 4K-restored features by Thai auteur Apichatpong Weerasethakul have been acquired by The Match Factory for international sales, the company has revealed, with a formal launch planned for the upcoming Venice International Film Festival.>The quartet spans more than a decade of Weerasethakul’s work: “Blissfully Yours” (2002), recipient of the Un Certain Regard Prize at Cannes; “Tropical Malady” (2004), winner of the Cannes Jury Prize; “Syndromes and a Century” (2006), which bowed in Competition at Venice; and “Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives” (2010), which claimed the Palme d’Or at Cannes. The Match Factory holds rights in all territories except North America, the U.K., Ireland, Japan, Switzerland, and Thailand.Joe finally escaping the DVD jail
What exactly is the point of "restoring" Weerasethakul films? They'll still look the same.
>Uncle Boomer
>>222823109We say giallos every time in this joint even if it's not correct
>>222825807Nice.
Saw this a few weeks ago, it was a good time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O05arcJjOd0
>>222824363They don't and you should.
Why wasn't he ever nominated for a best picture or best cinematography Oscar?
>>222826398Who?
>>222826398>>222826409Forgot pic.
>>222825807>Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Livesboring flick, people just pretend to like it because it's exotic and has a cool name
>>222826434I don't think anyone plays it safer than Eggers, I don't hate him but his films are always exactly what you expect them to be and there's no deviation or subversion whatsoever.
>>222826471If Lighthouse was exactly what you expected it to be then I guess you're either a genius or a prophet.
>>222826487This. Call it quipshit or whatever, but it was hardly a safe bet. He has admittedly been treading water ever since.
>>222826487I couldn't imagine being this easily impressed.
i watched "shadow of a doubt" (1943) and i found it pretty lame
>>222826547I couldn't imagine being this smug.
>>222826634Lmao, welcome to /film/ newfriend.
https://youtu.be/N4jhiP-wFrARemember this? Funniest shit ever! I can't believe this film actually exists, this will be studied in the future as a representation of our times.
>>222826673I don't know what this is and I'm not going to watch it
>>222826547He didn't even say that it was good.
anyone got any asian movie recs for this feel?https://youtu.be/HllVbD34JUk
>>222826723He certainly implied it.
We are but cogs in Yakub’s grand machine
>>222826787April Story, but it sucksA Brighter Summer Day, but you have already seen it
>>222826790He did no such thing. Being safe is different from being good and his point was that The Lighthouse wasn't just being safe.
>>222826817ive tried watching april story, and didn't like it. im not much of a fan of shunji iwai, only film ive seen by him i actually enjoyed somewhat was picnic. and yeah maybe a brighter summer day would fit. edward yang is a boring director though, in my opinion.
>>222826876The best song is Me vs. You, btw.Also, Linda Linda Linda is vibe adjacent to that record.
>>222826852>his pointYou mean your point, samefag? Lmao. Nothing wrong with liking genre movies.
>>222825832What restorations have led you to think this?
>>222826908me, is you is also fucking incredible, yes. everyone asked about you the song is probably my personal favorite song though, period. i listen to a lot of music.linda linda linda might fit, too. i enjoy the aesthetics of nobuhiro yamashita movies, my favorite of his is probably the drudgery train.i was thinking maybe and your bird can sing, from 2018.
>>222826924I'm >>222826525
>>222826947Answer the question, lil gup.
>>222826802/film/s for this feel?
>>222827005My answer's implicit in my question (they won't look the same and will hopefully look better).
>>222827071Weerasethakul arrogantly assumes that his films will look naturally beautiful and that they don't need to be edited in any way and they end up looking like shit so maybe on paper, a restoration will improve upon that oversight but it doesn't seem likely to me
>>222826963Idk, man, probably a lot of asian slice of life / romance movies fit the bill. There's also this korean film called Soulmate.>everyone asked about you the song is probably my personal favorite song though, period.My favorite by them is Crazy, I actually got all of their discography on vinyl. Do you like Rainer Maria (the band, not the poet)? Similar vibes, I'm pretty sure they were an influence on EAAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1CVveKQocY
>>222827032>/film/s for this feel?Chaplin's Modern Times (1936), obviously.Metropolis (1927) works as well, though it's arguably just a secondary theme there.
Despite all my rage I am still just a cog in the machine.
>>222827115Lmao.
>>222827174Your sycophantic nature towards asians causes this, not my fault you're an ass-kiss
>>222827126>Do you like Rainer Marianot until about three minutes ago. great stuff, i can definitely see how EAAY would've been influenced by them, especially with the clashing dual vocalists.Crazy is also great.ive seen soulmate, as a film it's good at making me cry. it's been a while since ive watched it, but it might fit. though i'd prefer film instead of digital.>probably a lot of asian slice of life / romance movies fit the bill.im looking for *THE* one, though.
now that i think about it, maybe maborosi by kore-eda would fit.
>222809337one of those I'M ACTING films, with several unnecessary I'M DIRECTING little touches, but a good movie overallmain problem is that the main conflict is a bit of a nothingburger, and the implied conflict in the past is just more interesting but the movie never touches itjust another proof that cinema people are narcissistic crybabies / 10
>So the only comfort zone for me is, is it only gonna be as good as what we feed in? And therefore come back with what is better. My concern is it won't go way beyond that. Cause if I design the first AI, honestly the first thing I want you to do is design an AI smarter than you. Then I'm going to get rid of him and say now, AI 2, design an AI smarter than you are. And you put them together and say "now dance". You're in deep shit at that point.>Well, film makes you think horizontally, vertically, and sideways. So, I'm doing Blackhawk Down, and so I'm going to use eleven cameras. If I didn't use eleven cameras, I'd still be shooting it.>Science to me is an art form. I've talked to a great mathematician who said to me: "When you're writing a script or preparing a script, do you ever get barriers?" And I said yeah, because when I hit a wall on the third act, sometimes I have to back off, go left, see if I lose this I can go through the wall. He said that's mathematics. So, mathematics and art are the same thing. So what I do, I think is kind of a form of science.
>>222828405all of these are factual statements.
>>222828135>>222809337
>>222828405He's probably the smartest director in the game right now.
>>222828470he's no statementmaker, he's a filmmaker
>>222828512Yeah, imagine shitting out one decent film in the 80s then living off of that for decades, bro is a genius.
>>222828535He's a big swinger.
my favorite thing about ridley scott is that he inspired metroid, and is therefore directly responsible for the existence of super metroid.
just logged the gta6 trailer on letterboxd
>>222828596the man just keeps on giving
>>222828553The DuellistsAlienBlade RunnerLegend (Director's Cut)Black RainTwo Bitches in a Car1492GladiatorBlack Hawk DownMatchstick MenKingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut)American GangsterPrometheusThe Counselor (The Greatest Film of the 2010s)Alien: CovenantHouse of GucciNapoleon (Director's Cut)All masterpieces. No other living director comes close.
>>222828596This is one of his only redeeming factors alongside Blade Runner and his influence.>>222828656xd
I can already sense that Ridley Scott's Treasure Island (Director's Cut) will be another masterpiece.
>>222828596>ridley scottSIR Ridley Scott
Though I gotta say it's kinda clever that you didn't mention Alien's DC, which actually ruins the original. It seems like you have actually watched these movies beyond the shitposting.
Also, he's mogged to pieces by SpielCHAD.
>>222828656>Legend (Director's Cut)is that the one with the prog soundtrack?
>>222828656Napoleon is the worst film ever made, I don't think a DC could save it>>222828786Ridley has much higher highs but much lower lows
>>222828836i dont know man, jurassic park, ET, and indiana jones, and fucking JAWS are all legendary classics.
>>222828869AI is his best and his most /film/ic work
>>222828869All mogged by SchoenGOD
>>222828921looks like trans daniel radcliffe.>>222828919haven't seen it.
>>222828765Yes, I have seen all of his features except G.I. Jane. I should fix that soon.>>222828786Spielberg lost me with the triple combo of The Big Fucking Guy, The Post, and Ready Player One.West Side Story was perfectly fine, but felt completely unnecessary next to the 1961 version. Spielberg's vision wasn't fresh or interesting enough to fully justify another adaptation of the musical. The Fabelmans was one of the worst films of its year. A total embarrassment. Spielberg indulging in some of his worst habits. Haven't bothered with Disclosure Day yet.>>222828805No. The Director's Cut has the intended Jerry Goldsmith score (one of his very best). The DC also has the benefit of not being an incoherent mess like the theatrical version. The difference between the versions is huge. Theatrical feels raped.
>>222828921dios mio
Munich is likely Spielberg's most /film/-adjacent flick due to featuring Michael Lonsdale in a small part.https://youtu.be/ZzJvGFnSk3Q>>222828919>>222828980I haven't seen it either, but Rosenbaum considers it the best film of the 21st century. Armond White (lol) has it in his all-time top 10 as well.
Why are there only 5 Malick films and like 4 Bresson films on the Criterion Collection while Bergman has his entire filmography there?
>>222828611just logged twenty-three reactions videos to the gta6 trailer on letterboxd
>>222829040Licensing. They got a nice deal with Svensk Filmindustri, and that's how they got their hands on most of his filmography. Face to Face (both versions), Serpent's Egg, and a few others are still missing. >4 Bresson filmsThey're releasing Four Nights of a Dreamer soon, or so I've heard.
>>222828921I've seen a dude I kinda respected going on massive multi paragraph arguments citing Lacanian theory in relation to this dumbass shit
I'm honestly very surprised no big studios tried to negotiate a GTA film with Rockstar yet.
>>222829040Malick is McDonald's arthouse.Bresson has 7 films in the collection. Very good considering how small his filmography is. Though I agree the rest should be included as well.Bergman is a god of cinema.
>>222829079That's one of his weak ones, isn't it? They should be releasing The Devil, Probably, Lancelot of the Lake, The Trial of Joan of Arc, Diary of a Country Priest.
>>222829096They predicted the future and made it before the games came out.
>>222829107Malick is McDonald's and Bergman is god, but the one who couldn't understand Au Hasard Balthazar was Bergman, he called it boring and nonsensical, if an anon said the same here you'd be calling him a retard.
>>222829096It would just be a generic crime film, since none of the GTA game stories are all that good anyway.>>222829144Their work matters more than their words.
I've always felt such vindication that the internet loathes my favorite filmmaker.
>>222829164Big Harmony Korine fan.
>>222829144>Oh, Mouchette! I loved it, I loved it! But Balthazar was so boring, I slept through it." John Simon: "I liked Les Dames du Bois de Boulogne and A Man Escaped, but I would say The Diary of a Country Priest is the best one." Ingmar Bergman: "I have seen it four or five times and could see it again... and Mouchette... really..."lmao
>>222829178Who's deeply inspired by Terry.
>>222829202Korine is the Burger King to Malick's McDonald's.
>>222829211and who is the KFC of cinema?
>>222829240Herzog. Only he hates chickens that much.
>>222829240Scorsese, good, but not true culinary.
>>222829211They both suck my FUCKING ASS
Only pseuds call Malick McDonald's. The old = good, new = bad crowd, you're worse than feminists and liberals.
Is Kurosawa the director with the highest amount of 90+ films on Metacritic? He has like 10, pretty insane.
>>222829240Spike Lee. Wide appeal amongst blacks, rest of the world knows it’s trash
>>222829273You know they're always gonna hate him, my ex hated him and she always said he was disingenuous.
>>222829273>old=good new=badIt’s unfortunate this has to be true the majority of the time but this is the world we live in anon
>>222829211If anything, Korine is more like a pretentious fusion joint that's sometimes good and sometimes atrocious, but always interesting. The true Burger King of cinema has always been Michael Mann. The interesting question is who's the Wendy's of cinema.
Be There Or Be Square.SHO-NUFF.
>>222829299How did you find a cinephile girlfriend? Did you make the first move or was it her? I'm way too scared of rejection to make a move first so I reached my 30s without ever dating, but I wanna change that.
>>222829322>Wendy's of cinemaPricier but objectively lower quality? PTA.
>Kfag back >Ridley Scott>Spielberg>Malick>KorineI'll come back later.
>>222829351We were introduced through a mutual friend at this get-together when I told him Inland Empire was one of my favorite films and he was like "oh I've got someone for you" and then I found it was her all-time favorite and my cock was basically handcuffed to her for three years.
>>222829352Wendy's is goated, then? Shieeet.
>>222829385>goatedWith the sauce?
>>222829322Korinne is grotesque and offensively bad. I like Mann though. Thief is high quality >>222829352Wendy’s used to be better but your definition is right for how they’ve fallen. PTA is perfect for your definition, very nice.
>>222829311Shall we compare modern directors and their old counterparts then?Malick > BergmanScorsese > GodardSpielberg > KurosawaTarkovsky > NolanAs you can see, old directors only win once and they lose in the other three comparisons.
>>222829383Damn, you're so fucking lucky.
>>222816629>Bonus'st'd've'ntDana Delany>>222828921>>222828980traniel radcliffe?>>222829095Was it Zizek?
>>222829427I mean she was just like any other girl at the end of the day, always soapboxing about how we should we grow and evolve and always striving to have the most idealistic view on things but refuses to practice what she preaches.
>>222829408Gummo is one of the best films of all time.
>>222829448What did she mean by grow and evolve? Are you a manchild? No woman likes that type of guy.
>>222829473That we should always strive to be the best version of ourselves, always the most "openminded" version of ourselves even if it means taking everything at face value. I remember countering her with "what about the version of ourselves we're most content with" and she said that wasn't good enough and then I asked what exactly was good enough and of course, she didn't have an answer for that. Then I asked her if the best version of her is a server at a chain restaurant and she did not like that, I tell ya.
>>222829473are you really a 4channer if you aren't a manchild?
>>222829516>Then I asked her if the best version of her is a server at a chain restaurant and she did not like that, I tell ya.lol. i can see this being dialog in a shitty rom-dram movie
>>222829516I agree with her. She has a more ascetic vision of life, we should not be the version "we're most contented with", we should always try to achieve our ideal selves. Your vision seems more hedonistic, you're basically saying that "as long as I can dive myself in pleasure I'm content", that's kinda gross actually.>>222829529That's why we post on /film/? 4chan is for manchilds, but there are ponds of educated men within it like /film/, /lit/, /sci/, as long as you don't interact with the apes outside of those ponds you're no manchild.
>there are ponds of educated men within it like /film/, /lit/, /sci/:laugh emoji:Like 60% of anons in those places just want to be right at any cost, they don't accept any debate on any point and are extreme dogmatists. If anything, all of those places are pseud centrals because they attract the kind of people that want to look like intellectuals, but are not actually interested in the truth or getting to refine their knowledge, they're very satisfied with what they consider to be the truth and they won't question it.
>>222829618>/lit/>educated menThis used to be somewhat true at some point many aeons ago. It's been sloppified way past the point of recognition since then.
>>222829618im an /a/non with yellow fever whose favorite anime include k-on, ichigo mashimaro, lucky star and kemono friends. feel free to make of this information what you will.
Being American/European must be great, even the waitresses in those places like high art and arthouse cinema. Meanwhile, here in Pakistan it's like 1 in 1000000 even in high education places like universities.
>>222829669I thought it was just me that realized /lit/ looks more like /v/ now, thought I was imagining things.
>>222829669>>222829673There are faggots and autismos wherever you go but to insinuate there aren’t any smart people here is very disingenuous. I’ve read many well thought out opinions that have helped build my own perspective
>>222829673If you like that crap then you don't really understand art, I don't even know what you're doing here in that case.
>>222829691The second part is probably true, but americans are notoriously retarded and ignorant, and every time I've been in Europe I've noticed they're also extremely stupid sometimes with the added insult of also believing themselves to be above others because they think culture came from their continent and they're much more advanced than other places. Americans, on the other side, are a little more humble, yet still think America is the only country that matters, or even just the only country that exists.
>>222829720im >>222829529. im not insinuating that manchildren can't also be smart.>>222829733very pretentious.
>>222829720Examples?
>>222829733Imagine not understanding the artistic superiority of moeshit... lmao
>>222829673What a repulsive art style.
>>222829751>>222829758Do you honestly unironically believe Bergman, Kurosawa, Tarkovsky, Welles, Kubrick, or any of the other greats would enjoy that crap? If you like that you either have shit taste for art or you have a vice and you delude yourself into believing that thing is actually good.
>>222829516How did you two break up if you don't mind me asking?
>>222829715Like a lot of the site, it really took a toll after the 2016 election. A lot of the smart, passionate people that used to post there jumped ship. I seldom see threads about the meme tomes (Ulysses, Gravity's Rainbow, Infinite Jones) anymore, when they used to be a permanent fixture in the catalog. And thinking about what happened to /mu/ honestly makes me sad.... I'm such a fag.
>>222829847Bergman might have liked it, Tark would have hated it, Kubrick would have been indifferent to it, Welles would have been a die hard otaku with K-On! posters in his room, and finally, Kurosawa would have enjoyed it. I say this without a hint of irony.
>>222829890Infinite Jest* sorry for the phoneposting
>>222829817many are saying this (i am not one of them)>>222829847times have changed, pal. i like kubrick, tarkovsky and kurosawa films too, by the way. just because i have a fond appreciation for one form of art doesn't mean im incapable of enjoying more "appropriate, socially acceptable" forms. my music taste is also abhorrent by many people's standards (XTC and the like), yet i think it's the best thing ever.
>>222828501vp9 actually looks better in this one
>>222829914I think goofy anime stuff is dumb and pointless but it's also completely honest about its own pointlessness. K-dramas are much more repugnant.
>>222829890I've talked about this before, but this site went from being pretty much a shining gem of humor, spontaneity and free speech to being one of the most dogmatic, humorless and ritualized sites on the entire web. I don't even lie when I say sites like Instagram are funnier than 4chan in the current era.
>>222829890>meme tomesOh, you're one of those dirtying it then, only Ulysses is decent out of those three, the less threads about them the better.
>>222829914What is your music taste like? Send a topster if you will.
It wasn't the 2016 election, the site was good and healthy until around 2020. After that it slowly declined, we're currently in its lowest point.
>>222829945What do you have against Pynchon? He's to literature what all those French meme auteurs like Godard/Resnais/Rivette are to cinema.
>>222829956i dont have a topster. i like all sorts of music, but it essentially boils down to this:https://youtu.be/TTQdU_6xgXM
>>222829983So basically sporkcore lolDo you listen to hardcore EDM? Breakcore and the like? Pretty big in otaku circles
>>222830004i listen to denpa, which would be the closest thing to those.
>>222829892The artstyle alone would've disgusted all of them away. That shit is not art, my nigga, no matter how big your mental gymnastics are, they have terrible artstyle, terrible scene composition, terrible dialogues and screenplays, EVERYTHING surrounding that crap is awful. The only exceptions we can make here are Ghibli and some other anime film directors like Hosoda and Kon maybe.
>>222829972The book is literally about a guy predicting air strikes by having sex and masturbating. It's pathetic, boring, nonsensical, it's honestly unbelievable to me how big of a cult following it has, just goes to show some people will always just follow whatever is popular without any critical thinking.
>>222830019This shit is a classic https://youtu.be/CDmqyl1nBKc?si=_eaU6TWAV5Mf2M3J>>222830036Fun is fun, my nigga, go back to r/TrueFilm, do some drugs, watch some Azudaioh, then come back when you're enlightened like /us/
>>222829914The thing is, if you actually liked arthouse cinema you wouldn't even feel compelled to engage with moe anime garbage. When you taste Kobe beef you don't wanna go back to eating the cheapest meat option available. You just don't understand art very well, you need a lot more training and studying and then you'll understand what I mean. I too used to watch anime once but now I have just 0 desire to watch any because I'm already too good to what is actually good.
Is it just me or are European "arthouse" films increasingly more filled with English dialogue? It feels like no movie belongs to just its own country anymore.
>>222830088not really a fan of goreshit, or breakcore really. it seems reductive to me.https://youtu.be/olpO53Ppg7I>>222830155if you think you need "training" and "studying" to understand art, you are a retarded pretentious twat. art is one of the most fundamental things any human can comprehend, and each one of them will walk away with a different perspective regarding it. if you don't understand this, i think YOU don't understand art, on a conceptual level.>>222830036something tells me maybe you personally just dont like moeshit, and that's ok. you clearly haven't watched any of those shows though, otherwise you would recognize that moeshit CAN and has been done well.
>>222830185This is a longterm issue imo. Even in the 60s/70s auteurs were filming stuff in English simply because there's a greater commercial potential to anything that appeals to Americans, even in a tenuous sense. It's why Herzog shot Aguirre in English.
>>222830155>Kobe beefMy nigga, I've actually been in a michelin star restaurant in Kobe and I can tell you from firsthand experience that a for about 1/100th of the price of a kobe steak with rice, you can get a Big Mac, super sized fries, McNuggets and a super sized coke which you will enjoy much more and which will be much healthier for you. Kobe beef is seriously a massive pseud meme, the best pleasures in life are CHEAP like a cheap whore.>>222830200Check out terrorcore then, this was released on BRUTAL CHUD records back in 1996 lol https://youtu.be/RMBxOikxXzw?si=Lbgeez8jP5AgUmki
RIP Kobe Bryant
>>222830185A big emphasis on multiculturalism and globalization opens up markets for international arthouse films, but also causes a loss of identity within the filmic traditions related to the film at hand.
>>222830200Not everyone is born with enough sensitivity to understand art intuitively. I was, but I know not everybody is the same and there are ways to study and understand what makes a film art, the person I replied to clearly need those guides before they can develop their own intuition.>otherwise you would recognize that moeshit CAN and has been done well.Ok, which ones? I'll watch the first episode of whatever you recommend and I'll tell you why it's garbage, if it's good I'll just accept defeat.
>>222830273>Check out terrorcore then,also, really not a fan of this lol, and dont really understand how cardiacs makes you think i'd be into this sort of thing.https://youtu.be/B0oVHWh8Tuohttps://youtu.be/g-jXkJNkRv8https://youtu.be/TUYw9kPPZ-c>>222830370>the person I replied to clearly need those guides before they can develop their own intuition.i am that person.>Ok, which ones? I'll watch the first episode of whatever you recommend and I'll tell you why it's garbageyou wouldn't like any of it because not everyone likes every form of art, which is my point. but, after thinking long and hard about it, i think you should check out the first episode of boku no pico. you might enjoy that one.
Bit of a long shot, but how important is a projector screen really? Like, there are $1000 projector screens out there, do I really need those for a good image quality even though I'm gonna watch movies in a dark room or can I just get a cheap one for similar results?
>>222830370Just watch Lucky Star, get filtered.>>222830436Just throwing out stuff because you said you were an /a/fag lol... not really a fan of sporkcore, but Primus are cool
>>222830436Moe anime is NOT art, sorry you have to find out this way.
>>222830480im not finding anything out. i understand that you have that opinion though, and dont agree with it personally. good day. i hope you rest well knowing thousands upon thousands of american and jp otaku agree with me though.
nyaaaaaaaaaaa
>>222830512Deep down you know I'm right, you just don't want to admit defeat because of your ego and that's fine, I'm just glad I planted the seed of doubt in you. You too have a good day!
>>222816629I though that was Beetlejuice when I scrolled by...
>>222830574meds.
wtf did I just watchpeople just be saying random shit
>>222830480Art needn't have to be high brow/something you personally appreciate in order to fundamentally be art. I don't like anime myself but I begrudgingly declare it art for its nature. Calling it "not art" would be like a normie calling noise music "not music".
>>222830436I love NoMeansNo. They're one of the only good things to come out of Canada.You should check out Koenjihyakkei from Japan. They're somewhat similar to Magma (the greatest prog band from outside the UK) but a lot more spastic and balls to the wall. Also, listen to John Zorn's Naked City. https://youtu.be/TjFn3G_uSkohttps://youtu.be/E11HbhhmzLk
>>222830585Get used to the dogmatics or you'll be driven crazy. These dudes are completely addicted to the feeling of being right.
>>222830643>Moe anime>Noise musicIf we consider that crap art then everything is art, shitting is art by your definition. That's not how it works.
>>222830742>shitting is art by your definition.i unironically believe this. i also like noise music. https://youtu.be/WJQmgZ1xAxEi think you just have bad taste in art.
>>222830643*smooch*>>222830742Filtered by Piero Manzoni's Merda d'artista.
>>222830664>Koenjihyakkei from Japan.oh hell yeah, this shit is awesome. reminds me of some rock in opposition bands like zwoyld https://youtu.be/gv92G9F9UToim familiar with magma, and have heard a lot of people compare them to cardiacs. i should actually give their discography a chance for once.>John Zorn's Naked City.this is also really cool, and every instrument is doing something unique and interesting. thanks for the recs.
>>222830742Merda d'artista was some based, artsy shit>>222830767Melt-Banana's best shit is when they go full on grindcore, like Sakura Spiral (not on Youtube)
>>222830742The way I see it, Barry, the word "art" includes awful art and high brow art. Intent is what matters. What makes something art for me is the stimulation of senses in order to create an emotional response. Art lies in implication as Breedy Bobby put it.Shitting is not art to me, it's a necessary biological function of your body intended to dispose of waste.>>222830767Cute noise (non-snarky)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwb9N6VjjN4
Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope
>>222831114Latest jam from prominent noise musician Prurient.
>>222830903boris is awesome.>>222830742i want to take this opportunity to shit on you one final time, and say that i whole-heartedly believe my favorite band cardiacs to be more artistically significant in terms of raw emotional energy to a greater number of people than anything you've ever felt from any piece of art.https://youtu.be/AbcZEaDM7j0
>>222830767Bruh this is not noise music. Noise music is like chainsaws and industrial sounds. Bruh shitting is not art that is like saying someone scratching their nose is art. If you display a shit in a museum it is art yes.>>222820494If I was like you I'd probably do a lot of raping. I mean if I was a sociopath who doesn't care about jail or committing suicide after going on a crime spree which I am not. >>222831114I hope moderators listened and will start removing posts like this.
>>222831183Never fucked with his music, though I think his screams are some of the funniest shit in power electronics. Nigga sounds like he's gonna pop a hemorrhoid at any give point.The PE genre is still living under the mog of Navicon Torture Tech.
>>222831295Yeah it was never really my thing thing either, PE and noise. Noise rock on the other hand? Of course.
>there's an animeposter on /film/ now
>>222831384Nah, PE is underrated as fuck, but it is kinda like eroguro manga or extreme taboo rapeplay, not for everyone. I really think When Pornography Is No Longer Enough is one of the best albums of all time, any genre. It's also incredibly funny and self aware of its ridiculousness, kinda like old Whitehouse before Sotos got all crazy with the collage shit.
>>222831490I fucking hate those guys. Empty provocation with no substance or meaning behind it whatsoever.
>>222831450And he thinks anime is art kek
>>222831537Which guys, Sutcliffe Jugend, Whitehouse or PE in general? OG PE had a lot of trolling, satire and humor applied to it, while modern PE is so self serious and self important that it loses me a lot of the time. I like how stuff like Whitehouse commented on the hypocrisy of moralist rhetorics in art via the commentary on sensationalism... you still can catch people that shit on Whitehouse or Trevor Brown's works because they talk about shit like CP and rape but they have no problem listening to death metal songs about killing pregnant women or reading yellow journalism articles about the said subjects which they condemn in art. Give the genre a chance if you got an interest in noise and the subversive, it's pretty cool.
can we please get back on topic? 4 months and still no English subtitles for Mr. Kim Goes to the Cinema (2026).
>>222831881Hardcode it yourself, jackass.
>>222829290Bay is awesome. Ideal for the visceral experience, ideal for pure bombast and high absurdism.
>>222831802I genuinely find Sotos's writing very interesting but I got fed up with the "oh you didn't check his publisher's website within 24 hours of a new book being announced? it's gone and now $300 on ebay" shit + I have grown soft and find the subject matter rather difficult to dwell on
>>222832282Don't be a faggot, just pirate his shit. I think all of it is for free on Soulseek. I had some curiosity for his book on Jamie Gillis' porn work, but it turned out to be a bit of a nothingburger, more conceptual than analytical. Do you like Trevor Brown? He kinda has the same discourse surrounding him as Sotos, with all of the analysis residing on moral questioning and purity testing rather than the actual content of his ouvre.
There's a genuine connection between trying to rationalize or intellectualize pedophilia and being raised predominantly by women
>>222831929maybe I will
>>222832573I don't really try to rationalize pedophilia in the sense of relativizing it in moral terms, but I do think you'd have to be pretty much a complete idiot to think that people making art about it in a subversive tradition and ethos a la Bataille or Sade is a "morally reprehensive action", specially when you consider that the moralizing proselytists are almost always hypocritical about their consumption of socially questioned rhetorics in art.
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>>222831802For me, it's Mummy & Daddy.>no problem listening to death metal songsDeath metal is way more digestible as music so it makes sense for someone not into unconventional structures and focus on texture would find PE and noise unlistenable no matter the subject matter. I know someone in a death metal band who can't even listen to noise rock (I ran some Rapeman by him) because it's "too loud".
>Image Forum Representativedid we send this guy?
>>222832895I think you're purposefully ignoring the fact that it doesn't take a strict moralist stance to recognize that pedophilia is wrong and there's no need to proselytize or dissuade someone into recognizing that, maybe you aren't but trying to entangle someone in an endless bind of "rhetoric" won't work on anyone with half a brain
>>222832995Forgot to add:Thinking about the time when C.C.C.C. did a live show on Italian TV. Kino of the highest order.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs3GcoZ-ecs
>>222832995I don't think it's about death metal being more digestible, but rather that the aesthetics of death metal seem more over the top and cartoonish than the frankly realist portrayals of human suffering present in PE. Basically, people can laugh at women getting raped if it's a cartoon, but not if it is a movie pretending to be reality.>>222833034In this case, it's not about right or wrong, but rather the function that the subject has in art and the reception it gets by moralists who get their panties soiled thinking of some guy making a song called "When I Grow Up, I'll Rape Your Kids". If they were for real with their ethics, they wouldn't waste their time opposing something that is clearly made with artistic intent in mind, and they would oppose real forms of pedophilia. These people are just against freedom of speech and freedom of expression, that's all, kinda like that time in the 90s and early 00s when christians wanted to cancel anime in the west for being satanic, same with heavy metal music, but they never cared about actually "satanic" stuff happening in their communities like crime, rape and child abuse. It's all hypocrisy and moral posturing.
>>222833022oh wait nevermind he likes new things so not /film/
>>222833127>all of the second half of your postgrabbing popcorn.
>>222833127If you don't think freedom of expression should be restricted, idk what to tell you. So many people have abused and mistreated others under the guise of "freedom of expression". There's a reason classics are considered classics and why they called it the good old days, back then freedom of expression wasn't a tool for degeneracy and promoting disgusting antisocial practices like LGBT
>>222833230I fail to see how gay sex can harm anything other than the bottom's asshole.
>>222833349It's biologically unnatural and harmful to the developing brain of a child, where they are indoctrinated into thinking that it is not only natural but virtuous as well, starting at a young age. So many people end up metaphysically imprisoned by this distorted falsehood of virtue, this perverted interpretation of empathy. Also there was AIDS, the disease that showed homosexuality is inherently corrosive, infecting one of mammals essential lifesources, the blood.
>>222833446I think it's pretty natural, also, a lot of straight people got AIDS from straight partners and drug abuse. You need to read some science, my man.
>>222833500I'd suggest you do more research on ethics and morality as well.
best /film/s to fall asleep to?
>>222833534I fail to see how being gay is bad... filmically speaking, gay niggers have given us a lot of good shit, starting from Wizard of Oz. I think you'd struggle to create a solid argument as to why homosexuality is bad.
>>222833446Nobody is "indoctrinated" into being gay, they were gay from the jump and you refuse to accept it for one reason or another. That just comes off as a "video games cause violence" argument retarded boomers have.
>>222833689Understandable how someone of your stature would feel this way.
>>222833230>>222833446whose to say your ideas on restricting freedom of expression are the correct ones? what if it turns out when we start restricting freedom of expression, it means nobody will be able to say anything bad about... gay people, for instance, without facing legal repercussions? see how this quickly becomes a problem?
>>222833716>Nobodyonly an underdeveloped mind could propose such a baseless assertion
>>222833760I have slightly above average height for US standards.
>>222833716>Nobody is "indoctrinated" into being gayThat isn't what I said. I recognize homosexuality for the biological abnormality that it is, but to dissaude a developing mind into thinking it's inherently natural and virtuous is in fact, indoctrination.
>>222833802I wasn't talking about height, lol.
>>222833807It's neither virtuous nor bad, it just is natural. Have you ever read about homosexuality in animal habitats? I did as a kid, and I realized about 10% of penguins fuck other penguins in the ass sometimes, which is something that goes more or less with the modern understanding that about 10% of humans are homosexuals.
>>222833775You're talking about freedom of speech, not freedom of expression.
>>222833833I'm also not gay, I don't even watch trans porn, if that's what you thought.
>>222833857>it just is naturalNo it isn't, it's abnormal and antisocial for humans and animals to practice. It goes against rationality and biological imperatives.
>>222833880Good to know.
>>222833873i think restricting freedom of expression is authoritarian behavior, as evident by nazis and communists penchant for this behavior throughout history.
>>222833807Are we under the impression that there is a strict universal "human nature" and it's not all just learned behaviors from your social environment?>>222833880Thanks for clearing that up. I was about to ask you if you are gay and watch trans porn.
>>222833807Bruh Mick Jagger literally admitted in his most recent interview at 83 years old that he chose to be bisexual in his younger years and that now he is straight again. He didn't say it like in a clear direct way obviously. He said something about sexuality being a choice but he meant being attracted to the opposite gender is instinctual and unavoidable and being attracted to the same sex is a decision one makes.
>>222833903If something is an imperative, that means it's default, like gasping for air, and homosexuality is just something that happens regardless of the commonness of heterosexuality, which is why I think it's actually sexual diversity that's imperative, and not sexual homogeneity. This would be kinda like saying having white skin is a biological imperative, when evidence shows that diversity is actually the imperative in nature.
>>222833938Human nature is in fact complex but to not consider homosexuality irrational and abnormal, is dishonest and irresponsible. If you take a look at blacks, how they practice pack mentality and respond with violence globally, throughout the world and not just here, this is an example of human nature and not the feminine and false socioeconomic factor excuse.
>>222834002>homosexuality is just something that happensAs a result of abnormality and mental illness within the mammal.
>>222834020What happens about the outliers to your theory? Are people like Obama, Spike Lee, Malcolm X, Shaq, Kobe, etc. violent rapists? Dissociating from socieconomic and educational factors in the explanation of violence in ethnic groups is a grave mistake, methinks.
Looking forward to it Fixbrother
>>222834087Obama and Malcolm X are/were inherently evil people, deriving support and prioritizing primitive, malicious, lowbrow, debased, corrupted people who are more akin to animals than human beings. The Wire recieved great acclaim from the false portrayal of blacks as intellectuals and David Simon got rich off malicious intent. Also, I'm sure you know, Malcolm Xs undoing was brought on by the very same people he naively championed. >Nigger, get your hand outta my pocket.
>>222834087Also>is Kobe a violent rapist?Affirmative.
>>222834171I mean, I could go all day talking about noteworthy black people, but you just don't care because you actually are convinced differences in behavior reside only in genetics and not in education or access to opportunities. If I said "was Sydney Poitier a bad guy? How about Morgan Freeman?" you'd just say yes and yes because they're black. You don't even care about investigating about people's characters before assesing a judgement, you just make the judgement then justify it via cerebral spaghetti code.
>>222829339Kek.
>>222834283in otherwords, he's racist.
>>222834283Whataboutism and outliers are the very source that blacks feed off of to get their foot in the door in places they do not belong in, it's incredibly irresponsible and of course dangerous to defend such a lowly, cretinous tribe who would never, under any circumstances, do the same for you.
What movie made you think "Ah, so that's what movies are."
>>222834321Mmm, yeah, but the thing at hand in here is how to unfuck a racist's mind. I actually think it's interesting how they get all these fucked up ideas about reality which are based on half truths all of the time, and I do think you could basically unfuck them up, same with nazis and similarly radicalized people.>>222834348My best friends growing up were french american, latino american and black american, so I know for a fact that the race shit is complete bullshit. If you take the worst specimens out of every race, of course it's gonna look like shit, it's kinda like I said "oh yeah, white people are so fucked up, they do meth all of the time and rob people for crack money and they fuck their cousins". It's obvious for anyone that the whites that do those kinds of things are not representative of the white race at large and are largely byproducts of their insanely retarded beliefs and non existent education and economic stability.
>>222834350Do you mean movies or do you mean /film/s?
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>>222834435good luck, but you aren't going to get anywhere with someone whose racism is essentially part of their personality, like how i imagine this guy to be. it might be possible with some people, but i guess this will just play out like a thought experiment.
>>222834491>but i guess this will just play out like a thought experiment.which now that i think about it is pretty comedy gold, because this is the same guy who wanted to ban freedom of expression with regards to gay people, because it's harmful toward children... while simultaneously expressing racists beliefs which could radicalize people in this very thread and could indirectly harm black people. lol. lmao.
>>222834435racism clouds critical thinking :( racists draw conclusions first and then cherry pick evidence to support that conclusion... observing the effect part of cause and effect and basing the "cause" on pseudoscience. you can't convince these people out of it with rational arguments since they weren't rationalized into those beliefs
>>222833612Cemetery of Splendour
hey it's that /film/ guy you all like so much
>>222834491I was insanely racist from years 14-17 because I became best friends with a nazi guy and my entire friend group also turned from mixed race to pretty much all white in like one year. I left all that shit behind, and also the proto-incel shit I was starting to spout when I realized it was all retarded because I read a marxist book some guy online recommended to me (he was my only non nazi friend) and I understood Hitler's critique of marxism was a 100% based on strawmans. I literally lost all my friends in 1 year, then went back to hanging out with my normal friends like nothing happened. I understand the racist mind because I've been there, if anything, I think I was 10 years ahead of the curve because I can see a lot of the retarded shit I used to talk about being used by a lot of radicalized retards nowadays, specially the conspiracy / jewish shit.>>222834516You can say whatever you want about blacks morally speaking, but you can't deny that black excellence in music and sports is a reality. The majority of US stars worth a damn in modern sports are black, and that's a fact, same as people like Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson being massively talented as vocalists and dancers.
>>222834728Not to mention blues and jazz musicians. White can't compete.
>>222834850Pure evil.
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might be true, it's mostly just /film/ that hates korean movies.
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Absolutely horrible thread, let's be better on the next one, /film/!
>>222834977Bizarre couple of threads. Last one started fast but lasted over 24hrs, whereas this one started slow and didn't even hit 24hrs.
>>222834977It was actually based, at least we talked about interesting stuff.
>>222834892I'M ADAPTING!
>>222834435>white people do meth all the time and fuck their cousinThat's literally a black people thing lol Kanye West even made a song about giving his cousin head and it sparked a huge conversation in the African American community. Also you sound like someone who went to school with people from your same socio economic background. So your colored friends were basically white people.
>>222835101I grew up dirt poor, so I can tell you I've seen "degenerate" activity done by all ethnic groups. Also, check out the term "white trash" and you'll understand what I meant by meth and fucking their cousins.
>>222835174I am European so I went to school with people from all income brackets and black and nafri people are always the most likely to be trashy and lower class then southeast asians and Mediterranean people then natives and west euros and then east asians are usually the most consistently middle/upper class people. I'm just speaking for my country though, maybe in other country everyone is the same.
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