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So is this supposed to be a meme movie or actually good?
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>>222876452
It’s actually good. Michel Keaton kills his role.
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>Will you shake on it?
Were the McDonald brothers actually retarded?
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>>222876452
Best irl villain origin movie next to Wolf of Wall Street
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>>222876498
that part was likely made up since there's no evidence they made that agreement and they never spoke of it publicly.
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The message of the film is a powerful one. The real Ray Kroc thought it was so important that he took out full page ads in newspapers to spread the message. Not many CEOs today are willing to share their actual beliefs so plainly like that.
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>>222876498
Yes.
This isn't a sad story imo.

A couple retard brothers built some Jewish heat lamp service method for their burger shop and couldn't expand because they were literally retarded.

We, the entire country, should thank god they were too stupid and inconsequential to stop Ray Kroc. Also his fortune went to charitable causes so it worked out.
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>>222876535
that's retarded advice because if you're just some retard who is persistent then you won't get anywhere. You need all those other things first then you can be persistent.
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>>222876518
Kroc was only painted as the villain to hide who the real villain actual was. Kroc's the Founder story is almost all totally bullshit and leaves out important details, like being the supplier for most of McDonald's kitchenware, and every time he opened a new franchise, he sold them all those multimixers and lots of other things from Prince Castle.
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>>222876498
Most goyim can’t sense Jewish tricks. It’s why they aren’t even in charge of their own countries. They function on some archaic honor system the chosen don’t believe in.
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>>222876556
>Also his fortune went to charitable causes so it worked out.
All that money went into the ether, you retard. This is what happens when you leave a woman money.
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>>222876562
t. An unsuccessful retard coping on a 4chan board

Lmao
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The movie is exactly what you picture it's going to be about, with no twists or turns. Not amazing.

Why not make a real documentary
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>>222876562
It's the only thing that can help some retard get anywhere.
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>>222876562
>if you're just some retard who is persistent then you won't get anywhere
There are plenty of retards who are persistent and have gotten somewhere, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>222876596
you just come off as annoying if you don't know what you're doing
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>>222876452
So how "buying land" suddenly made his problems disappear? He still signed the contract
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>>222876612
It made him wealthy enough to fight the contract and forced the brothers to a buy-out since they would't be able to cover legal costs fighting it in court.
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>>222876605
You're missing the point entirely. Nobody knows what they're doing initially. 99% of people who try something new give up when they encounter difficulties because they're embarrassed or ashamed. The 1% of people who can stick with it are capable of going somewhere, even if they're retarded.
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>>222876661
Nah this is bullshit

The best way to achieve success is to be born into wealth
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>>222876452
It's good. Noble businessman with vision steams rolls retarded provincial small businessmen and births a giant.
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>>222876920
While the other anon was coping, if you can't see you're reply is MEGA-Coping with this reply, brotha you lost with no lifeline
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>>222876535
>nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
>unrewarded genius is almost a proverb
>the world is full of educated derelicts.

These are literally fundamental problems that hold everybody and everything back and make life intolerable for everybody.

And here this guy is practically celebrating the fact that being the biggest asshole is the only way to win.

This is why the world is fucking terrible, doesn't anybody think maybe we should start rewarding talent and genius and education, and STOP rewarding assholes? Instead of gloating about it?
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>>222876498
I can't source it, but I think the McDonald's bros were actually quite happy with their deal with Ray. They got to retire as millionaires, and their name stayed attached to one of the most successful drive ins in the country. It was movie magic that painted them as steadfast believers in quality and against mass franchising, mostly for drama reasons.
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>>222876452
I like the realistic depiction of an early McDs, and it's a solid movie overall, but about 75% of it is creative embellishes like most movies "based on a true story", it's not that accurate to real history beyond "McDonald brothers create a fast high volume burger stand, Ray Kroc takes notice after selling a ton of milkshake mixers to them, buys the franchise rights, and eventually the whole company from them"
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>>222876989
It’s the perfect story for America, and explains why Americans love Jews so much. They see a hook nosed Israeli swindling a gentile as an aspirational tale of said Judeans cunning
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>>222877050
if you can't see *your reply is MEGA-Coping by trying to claim as long as you stick with something for years or decades, you're guaranteed success, you're not just naive, but functionally retarded
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>>222876605
So?
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>>222877179
>doesn't anybody think maybe we should start rewarding talent and genius and education, and STOP rewarding assholes? Instead of gloating about it?
Sure, but what are you going to do? Every attempt I have made to do the right thing has been quashed by those in power. They like things the way they are, and as far as I can see, things will stay the way they are, because they’re in charge, not us. It is what it is anon.
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>>222877369
Identifying the only path to possible success isn’t the same thing as identifying a path to certain success
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>>222877249
They also got to keep the original restaurant which was the only one they actually gave a fuck about
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>>222877441
no they didn't. They had to close it and it got demolished.
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The film takes a clear stance but I have seen people disagree that he owed the brothers more for the MCD Concept.
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>>222876452
Keaton is a great actor. I love most of his movies
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>>222876535
I used to think this till my early twentie. Persistence isnt going to get you much either. Its the ability to execute and knowing what to execute that gets you success
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>>222876476
Totally agree. He was phenomenal as always.
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>>222876562
He’s not saying to avoid talent, genius, or education in general particular, but that above all you need the drive to apply them. They are tools, persistence is a method of transportation to use those tools.
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>>222876476
Agreed.

The only thing I didn't like is the overly simllified portratal of the McDonald brothers. They come off as too pure and idealistic.
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>>222876562
Way to miss the point
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so what i uhhh just start the film and let the lightwaves go in through my eyeballs and the sounds go in through my ears and i piece together the story from the senses i'm perceiving?
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fast food sorta sucks now. their fries are OK



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