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Arthouse & Classics

Kinosedition

>QotD
Most /film/ic nose?
>Bonus
Which /film/ do you think would benefit most from Smell-O-Vision?

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Queen of /film/
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>>222876915
>QOTD
Silvana Mangano and it's not even close.
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>>222876915
>Bonus
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Anna Karina lookalike in a porn game
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>porn game
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>>222876915
>Bonus
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>>222876915
>Bonus
Ponder the aroma of an average John Waters kino
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>>222874556
>it's disgusting
Au contraire, the frogs make us francophiles hungry.
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Some blessed thread on the catalog tonight
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>>222878146
Better the frog than anime pictures.
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Was thinking about seeing both Lawrence of Arabia and David Fincher's the Game on the big screen next weekend, but I'd have to be at the movies from like 2pm to 8:30pm. I've seen LoA and it's just a DCP so I might skip it and have an early dinner and just see The Game because it's on 35mm.
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>>222878306
Both are based you faggot, we live in a anime website.
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>>222878358
Grow up.
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>>222878383
I'm already three hunned, lil bro.
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>>222878306
what about the korean the frog?
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>>222878401
I'm threefitty.
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>>222878421
What about the frogs from Milwaukee?
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I'm hiding all these posts.
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>>222878537
Eggscellent.
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>>222876915
>Most /film/ic nose?
La Vitti and it's not even close.
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Working so hard to be somebody special, not working just to survive.
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Happy birthday Ingrid Bergman! (b. 08/29/1915)

RIP Ingrid Bergman (d. 08/29/1982)
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>>222876915
I'm a longterm proponent of Chloë's bulbous nose.
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>>222879791
I know someone who vaguely resembles a young Chloë. She likes me but she's such a chudette that I want very little to do with her. I've cuddled with her though.
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>>222879804
*smooches her sniffer*
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>>222879749
RIPpy birthday!
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>>222876915
>/film/ic nose
Goddammit you faggots are we really at the point where we’re just listing our favorite body parts from 94 year old hags
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>>222880939
Henry Fonda’s not a hag.
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>Few were able to play the studio heads better than Hawks; he could be as cagey as they were, and even though they were the absolute bosses in Hollywood, Hawks represented the refined, accomplished, well-mannered, Ivy League, blue-blooded WASP whose acceptance they craved. They must have felt Hawks’s condescension; they were dealing with a man who, from the beginning of his career, conveyed the impression of independent wealth even when he was virtually broke.
>What drove him to achieve this was an insistent, overpowering will to independence. What enabled him to do it was a potent mixture of arrogance, intelligence, wealth, antiauthoritarianism, skill at intimidation, impudence, and willingness to walk away.
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>>222881156
>Thirteen years older than Hawks and in his early thirties when they met,Victor Fleming long served as an unacknowledged role model for Hawks. Everything Hawks considered himself or was ever known as—film director, macho sportsman, ladies’ man, auto racer, flier, tough guy—Fleming did first and, with the exception of directing, better, although many of their contemporaries would have differed even on that point. Fleming was the real thing, the genuine article. Tall, physically powerful, and described by one woman as “a composite between an internal combustion engine hitting on all twelve and a bear cub,” Fleming was also deeply, compulsively emotional in a way that Hawks never was, a man who agonized over work, often got himself into binds, and repeatedly pushed himself to the brink, and whose serious drinking, recurring ulcers, and other physical ailments were a direct result of his complicated, demanding, tumultuous life. If Hawks kept all his tension and anxiety wound up tight inside, Fleming let it all out. And if there was a real-life inspiration for the prototypical “love story between two men” that Hawks kept returning to as his ideal subject, beginning with A Girl in Every Port, it was his own relationship with Victor Fleming.
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>>222881010
THAT IS YOUR TAKEAWAY FROM THIS POST
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>>222881545
I can't see anyone else in the post that you replied to.
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Todd Solondz in "Married to the Mob"
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The Woman In The Window and Across The Pacific are two of the best noirs that don’t get talked about enough. Especially ATP, it’s like a noir-WWII movie. Reminded me a lot of The Maltese Falcon.
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>>222881156
>>222881251
Based.
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>>222883236
and one of the many Christian Scientists that used to control old Hollywood
*healing hand rubbing intesifies*
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>>222883508
>Carol Channing and Jean Stapleton;[174] Colleen Dewhurst;[175] Joan Crawford, Doris Day, George Hamilton, Mary Pickford, Ginger Rogers, Mickey Rooney;[176] Horton Foote;[177] King Vidor;[178] Robert Duvall, and Val Kilmer.[179] Those raised by Christian Scientists include biographer John Matteson, jurist Helmuth James Graf von Moltke,[180] military analyst Daniel Ellsberg;[181] Ellen DeGeneres, Henry Fonda, Audrey Hepburn;[182] James Hetfield, Marilyn Monroe, Robin Williams, Elizabeth Taylor,[177] and Anne Archer.[183] Four prominent African American entertainers who have been associated with Christian Science are Pearl Bailey, Lionel Hampton, Everett Lee, and Alfre Woodard.[184]
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Why didn't a certain waifufag shill this one more? Shit was mad kino.
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>>222881251
Samuel Fuller tries to sell his idea about The Sun Also Rises to Howard Hawks
> When Fuller enthused about the Hemingway, Hawks asked if he would be interested in writing the script, but was stunned when Fuller, carried away with excitement, suggested his idea for a great opening scene: in a tent near the front during World War I, an injured Jake Barnes is on the operating table; the nurse is Brett, and the light from the lantern shines upon her as we hear Jake’s balls drop, one, then the next, into a bucket. Thus, in one vivid scene would the audience be clued in to the nature of Jake’s malady and Brett’s knowledge of it. (Though Hemingway never explicitly detailed the injury in the novel, he elsewhere indicated that Jake lost not his balls but his penis, leaving him with the ability to still feel sexual desire but unable to do anything about it. Fuller misunderstood this, while Hawks’s insight into this crucial component of the story remains unclear.) Needless to say, Fuller did no work on this script.
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>>222879749
Will rub one out in her honor today. Highly cinematographical schnozz on her for what it's worth.
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>>222883571
>But considerably more annoying to Hawks was Michele Girardon. The director had taken a great personal interest in her from the beginning, bringing her to Hollywood before the shoot and advising the inexperienced actress in his usual Pygmalionesque way. But there was much more to it than that. “Howard Hawks loved Michele Girardon,” said Gerard Blain, “but she refused all his advances.” This incensed Hawks, and he punished her as well by slicing her part to the minimum, although Blain felt that he “kept cutting and changing her role because he realized she wasn’t much good. He really wasn’t much of an actor’s director. But if Michele had accepted the advances of Howard Hawks, it would have been a much different film.” Hawks’s frustration generated considerable tension on the set, which only increased when certain insiders realized that Girardon was carrying on the most furtive of affairs with Russell Harlan. No one knows if Hawks ever found out about that.
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>>222881156
>>222881251
>>222883689
>>222883927
Is that supposed to be funny?
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>>222883897
Shame about those shoulders though.
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What did I just watch? Why did Marie let herself be raped? Then there's a murder out of nowhere in the middle of the film that's never shown and we shift main characters to a drunkard that just appeared, what the hell? Then he becomes rich and gets called a retard to his face and just dies? Why do all the actor wear blank expressions all the time? Clearly deliberate, but I don't understand the reason, it just weakens the emotional impact of the scenes. This is the first time I have no idea what to think of a film. I have no idea whether this is a masterpiece or just a pretentious experiment. What did it all even mean?
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>>222884069
BREEDY'D
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>>222884069
The main character is the donkey, you donkey!
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>>222884186
The main character is Marie clearly, without her there wouldn't even be a proper story.
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>>222884069
>Why do all the actor wear blank expressions all the time? Clearly deliberate, but I don't understand the reason, it just weakens the emotional impact of the scenes.
Baby's first Bresson.
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>>222884069
>I think that in other films actors speak as if they were onstage. As a result, the audience is used to theatrical inflections. That makes my nonactors appear unique, and thus, they seem to be speaking in a single new way. I want the essence of my films to be not the words my people say or even the gestures they perform, but what these words and gestures provoke in them. What I tell them to do or say must bring to light something they had not realized they contained. The camera catches it; neither they nor I really know it before it happens.

>Here is the problem: The public is educated to a certain kind of film. Therefore, when they see what you call my elliptical films, they are disturbed. Bad critics say I am inhuman and cold. Why? Because they are used to acting; since they find none in my films, they say I am empty.

>I think cinema is misguided, that it has its own language, its own means, and that it has gone wrong since its birth, that is to say it's trying to express itself using tools which are those of the theatre. But there are wonderful actors in theatre. Believe me, I have such a hard time because I don't use them, it's really not for my pleasure. But I believe in the very particular language of cinema and I think that, once you try to express something through mimics, through gestures, through effects in the voice, it can no longer be cinema, it becomes filmed theatre.
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Marie also gives herself willingly to the old man at the end. She seemed like such a sweetheart at first but turned into such a whore.
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>>222884318
I understand his point, but I think he's just wrong. Cinema is the natural evolution of theatre and if the acting was better the film would've been a lot more powerful.
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>>222884372
I disagree. I'm with Bresson. Theatrical acting becomes more comical the closer you see it. Most films cannot be taken seriously.
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>>222879749
>>222883897
The Passing of the Great Race
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>>222884000
no, it's interesting
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>>222884388
Comical? There's nothing comical about, say, Robert De Niro or Daniel Day-Lewis's acting in their most prominent roles. The "non-acting" of Bresson's films is what makes them a product of their time, an experiment, rather than actual ethereal art.
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>>222884501
>There's nothing comical about (...) Daniel Day-Lewis's acting
This has to be bait, right?
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If this guy wants to be known for his words rather than the acting then he should write a book not direct a movie.
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>>222884501
Acting is silly. De Niro and Day-Lewis are clowns.
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>>222884549
What? Does this general hate him? You people are so pretentious.
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>>222884673
He is the poster boy for
>I AM LE ACTING!
The Nolan of actors, and I mean that as the greatest insult I can possibly muster.
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>>222884727
He's famous, so what? Do you think he's a bad actor because of his fame? Every classical director you like was probably very famous during their time as well.
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I wonder if the newfag getting filtered by Bresson is the same newfag that was getting filtered by Tsai.
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>>222884673
Be honest, do you not see anything silly and inherently ridiculous about method acting itself? PTA asking this posh English guy a question and him replying in-character as a Californian oil baron.
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>>222884766
>appeal to popularity
>in /film/ of all places
Somethings popularity is completely independent of it's actual quality. He's a bad actor because he is totally incapable of subtlety, it's outright vaudeville hamminess but we are supposed to be taking him seriously. You have conflated yelling and being loud with good acting.
Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet is an example of an actually good over the top performance, because he's not completely one-dimensional and he actually sells the reality of being unhinged. DDL never feels like an actual character, it just feels like he's fishing for an Oscar.
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>>222884867
There's nothing silly or ridiculous about someone taking their craft seriously, what the fuck are you even doing here in the ARThouse general if you find artistic expressions ridiculous?
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The amount of people who genuinely enjoy Tsai and Bresson films are a minority within a minority. I want to say that there are probably less than 500K Bresson fans on Earth. I'm glad some of them are here.
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>>222884318
People like theatrical acting because it's convincing and effective you dumb fucking faggot (i'm speaking to Bresson not you, anon). I hate this guy so much it's unreal.
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>>222884986
>in /film/ of all places
You lot only discuss the most popular Cannesbait arthouse filmmakers though
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>>222885072
That's no way to speak to a man denied his divinely ordained raw dog plappage. You can't know the pain he's endured. Sit down. Be humble.
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>>222884812
You're still assblasted about people seeing through Tsai's Walker grift? Sheesh.
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>it IS
Lmaooooooo
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>>222885260
It's not, you're just legitimately retarded. Wouldn't surprise me if you were waifufag adjacent by this point.
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>>222885100
There is a vast gulf between the average /tv/ pleb and the /film/ pleb. The average mouth breathing American knows who DDL is, but they would outright refuse to watch a Carax or Fellini romp.
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>>222884501
>There's nothing comical about, say, Robert De Niro or Daniel Day-Lewis's acting
I don't think you could've picked worse examples. Nothing comical about De Niro performances? Come on now.
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>>222885060
How can I genuinely enjoy them? I'm too used to narrative-focused films, their films do nothing for me emotionally.
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>>222881251
Fleming was a car mechanic that Dwan made into a cameraman once he found out Fleming was a photography hobbyist.
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>>222885311
If you weren't touched by the ending of The Irishman you're not sensitive enough to talk about art.
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hey guys
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>>222885370
You have to be baiting
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>>222885456
You are the one making outrageous claims.
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>>222885334
I don't know. You don't have to "enjoy" every film. Nobody's obliging you. Something like A Man Escaped does have a strong narrative hook. It's just very terse and elliptical in its presentation.
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>>222885334
>>222885370
It's beyond me how anybody can watch Balthazar and say it does nothing for them emotionally and then that same person having the gull to say if "if you're not touched by the ending of The Irishman you're not sensitive enough to talk about art".
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>>222885478
Negating YOUR outrageous claim that there's NOTHING comical about De Niro's performances is not an outrageous claim, it's something quite obvious in fact. You absolutely are baiting, good day, sir!
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Unironically I felt more at the end of Ms .45 than any of Scorsese's mobslop movies.
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>>222885630
For me it's
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>>222885630
>>222885654
Based.
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>>222885630
Yeah, but you're gay, who gives a fuck what you think of mafia movies. Only mafia you'd like is something like a homosexual mafia where everybody larps of being a woman at all times and calls others dahlings.
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>>222885484
I'm just saying what I feel. I don't delude myself into liking boring pretentious films just for some brownie points here or to pretend I'm super smart.
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The Irishman has a 95 metascore, your favorite film is probably not even close to that.
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>>222885696
Some of my favorite films are rated 6/10 on imdb, fuck you gon do about it lil conformist?
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>>222885756
Just goes to show you have shit taste.
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>>222885679
>I don't delude myself into liking boring pretentious films just for some brownie points here or to pretend I'm super smart.
Wtf are you doing on /film/ lmao? Don't you know cinephile circles are just retards who got no pussy back in high school trying to feel above the normies for "liking" a 3 hour film of a cat licking his balls?
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I guess today is "Bait Sunday" or something.
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>>222885887
Honest take I don't agree with = bait.
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>>222885912
These >>222885679 >>222885816 are not honest takes.
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>>222886056
They're jokes with a kernel of trvth inside them.
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>>222885816
It was so satisfying seeing Matthew Mcconaghey shit on those people during his Criterion closet picks LOL!

https://youtu.be/sIJfO2ocoPs
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>>222886095
Why do americans overrate Dazed & Confused so much?
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>>222886095
great hair transplant matt, still holding good
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>>222886146
If that's a transplant I unironically want one... could larp being in my 30s forever and no one would realize, could keep getting 20 year old BPDussy and it would pass off as sexy sleazecore instead of rapey rapecore.
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>>222886173
Apparently it's good everywhere now and you don't even need to go to Turkey anymore.
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I'll never get a cute, conservative, virgin, cinephile girlfriend. I'm gonna die alone…
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>>222886222
>a cute, conservative, virgin, cinephile girlfriend.
Each term contradicts the previous one. The oxymoron that oxymoroned to close to the sun...
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>>222886253
Shut the fuck up! Just because you live among hedonistic apes doesn't mean everyone else is also the same! Art has always been conservative.
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>>222886295
>Art has always been conservative.
Kek, good one brah.
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You really can't stop replying to bait can't you
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>>222886349
>can't you
"…can you?"*
Learn how to write English before accusing people of baiting, imbecile.
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>>222886349
Why would I? Bait is the name of the game, look at me I'm the master baiter.
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so many mad people in the comments
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>>222886095
Throwback to Cumtown listening to his autobiography narrated by himself and for four minutes building up to the point where he blurts out he was molested by a man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEyWnjCCC5I
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>>222886514
Should I read the book before watching the movie?
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>>222886517
What a bunch of losers with a clear inferiority complex toward Matthew.
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>>222885072
>it's convincing
Never been convinced by it. It is always totally false.
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>>222887368
Then you have shit taste for art.
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>>222878320
I feel so lucky I got to see LoA (for the first time) in 70 mm.
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Bresson is not a film director, he's an "experience" director. He creates experiences rather than actual films. Nothing wrong with that, just don't call it cinema.
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>>222886514
Why? Beacause it's missing nearly 100 minutes?
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>>222887442
Ben-hur is better.
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>>222887560
Yes.
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>>222887560
I downloaded that 11 years ago I see now. All in due course.
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>>222884069
Agree on all points. And also the donkey was barely in it
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>>222887815
>>222887821
I just read some info on behind the scenes of that film and apparently Bresson tried to fuck that actress but she cucked him with another member of the crew and later married Godard. Marie was a slut even in real life.
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>>222887919
Sluts need to be punished and put in order. Painal was what needed to be done.
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>>222887919
Ah, Bobby, don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful, Bobby. Maybe if you got rid of that old yee-yee ass haircut you got you'd get some bitches on your dick. Oh, better yet, maybe Zemsky'll call your dog-ass if she ever stop fuckin' with that crew member or auteur she fucking with. Bobby...
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>>222887919
I would think that dynamic would reslut in a better movie but alas
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>>222888193
>reslut
Heh.
*smooch*
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I can't stop thinking of raping every woman I see, films for this feel?
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my biopic desu
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>>222888237
Serial Rapist (1978)
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>>222887919
Yes, the evil demon Anne Wiazemsky denied Robert Bresson the sex that she owed him, we've been through this here like a year ago.
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Reddit said it was heavily implied in the film that Marie was molested by her dad? I guess I missed that scene…
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>>222888364
Hell-Spawned Blood Drinking Hag of /film/. Her heart was blacker than abyssal night, and she denied The Breedy One his rightful Divinely ordained raw dog plappage. Lilithian Corruption incarnate, I shun thee.
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>>222888364
Well, I'm not a NEET loser like you that can simply lurk every single /film/ thread for over a year, get a life.
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>>222887384
It being false has nothing to do with taste.
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>>222887919
>>222888019
Being a slut is good and should be encouraged. I love sluts.
/film/s for this feel?
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>>222888432
You really are a little firecracker aren't you? Haha.
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>>222888503
Big Boobs Buster (1990)
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>>222888503
Every french film.



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