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>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
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Let it die with some dignity.
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>>223028623
what is dead may never die
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Kill all dragons.
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>>223028710
Why is Ormund so antivalyrian?

Doesn't he realise they're refugees from the Doom?
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>Dunk is supposed to be the most honorable knight ever
>Actively lies about being knighted
>likely to have put a bastard baby in Old Nan
>Completely subverted the tarth bloodline by impregnating Egg's sister and letting her be married off to the heir of Tarth
Dude was a scumbag, but then again, so was his master, according to the show at least.
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*burp*
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>>223028854
BOW BEFORE YER QUEEN
BOW YA SHITS
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>>223028813
The running joke of ASOIAF is that people known to be honorable are either suicidal retards or not honorable at all, while actual honorable people were remembered as scumbags.
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>>223028560
egg is icsh
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>>223029014
Kill yourself faggot pedophile
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....semoc eH
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>>223028623
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>>223029161
!on ,on ,oN
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>>223028623
Were wayyyy past that point
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>be knight sworn to the Red Keep
>patrolling Maegor's Holdfast at night
>King Viserys is asleep
>come across his queen, alone and sipping a glass of Arbor gold
>she looks up and asks "What would you have me do?"

wat do
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>>223028813
>Dunk’s four pages are just the names of all the noble women he banged.
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If Stannis doesn't die at the same point he does in the show, and lives to find out that R+L=J, how do you think he might react?
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>>223029596
nothing would change because the targs were overthrown, no their claims means shit.
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>>223028854
Post partal depression induced obesity.
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>>223029596
Stannis is not a targsucker. For him there's no difference between Faygon, Dany and J. Starks would not have cared either if J wasn't technically one of theirs.
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>>223029596
Jon Snow’s dead so nothing happens
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>>223029714
Post-Cole obesity.
Built for bed-creaking doggy style.
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can someone post u_knw_nuffinz_jon_snow.gif
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Reminder that growing up is reallizing that Radmure was right with the mill thing and Robb should have briefed him of his plans
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When is a new show or book coming? I need more ASOIAF in my lufe.
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>>223029596
As long as he remains part of the watch, whatever his lineage might be is irrelevant. It does change things regarding Stannis' offer to legitimize him and make heir to Winterfell, though it could still be viable.
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Here’s my son Aegon and my other son who’s named Aegon.
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>>223029786
>new show
Dunk is next year. That weird new animated series is in development. Book never ever.
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>>223029803
Valyrians have about 20 names to pick through.
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>>223028854
I swear Condal is going out of his way to make Alicent's actress as unnatractive as possible. Did she offend him in some way?
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What happened to season one Alicent who hated whores and bastids?
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>>223029868
You dare question the queens feasting habits?
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>>223029844
They even reused Maegor's name, which you'd think would be a big no-no because aside from his general reputation they're all descended from a line he tried to extinguish.
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Shae is such a dumb tich
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>>222993378
Freddie Fox shows such nuance in emotions which really reveals the depths of his character's thoughts and understanding, and I also love the emotional control he has in his voice. Subtle breacks and cracks here and there. On the verge of crying, even.
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when is someone going to feed all of asoiaf to an AI and make it spit out the logical plot point of the winds of winter and teh spring
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>>223030218
that would be boring
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>>223030218
There's plenty of dogshit fanfiction if that's what you're looking for.
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>>223030191
>logical plot point
It would just suck up all the Reddit wish fulfillment out there and come up with the gayest possible shit
>and then khaleesi and Jon snu use dragon to kill yt walker and they son become lightbringer king but she die very sad, dragon come back also
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>>223030218
There are no logical plot points because every outcome has several equally valid options. Jon can be R+L but he could also be Ashara Dayne's bastard by Brandon Stark. The valonquar that will kill Cersei could be any of like a dozen characters. Faegon could be completely fake, a Blackfyre, Jon's fraternal twin that Ned had to give up because he had Targ features and he couldn't have protected him etc.
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>>223029596
Stannis is king
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>>223030365
>There's plenty of dogshit fanfiction if that's what you're looking for.
For me it's the one where Alys sends Aegon III back in time after Jaehaera dies so he can stop the Dance from happening and save Aemond as well.
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Helaena died so that Alicent may eat.
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Why do they deny us shows with colors?
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>>223031141
we lost the war, anon

i saw a thread about the new harry potter show on hbo and it looks like it's filmed entirely at night or something
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>>223031141
>>223031204
Supply and demand. "Thing" is popular so "thing" because the safe bet so producers expect "thing" in any project you want them to invest in. I don't want to say capitalism but it's capitalism.
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>>223031204
Look at this gray smeared shit, I'm starting to believe the schizos who say it'ssome sort of psychological op on purpose to make us more miserable.
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Egg has such a slapable head.
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>>223030883
Cute
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>>223030191
He sells the character very well which is why he's so likeable. If only half the runtime Mysaria and all the forced lesbian drama got could be given to him instead. Also he is very attractive (no homo).
I think it's likely he will survive at the end, but if he does his "reward" will probably be being forced to plap Rhaena, which is a fate worse than death.
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>>223031437
kys homo
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>>223029984
Aerion’s insane like that
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What are your opnions on the real life Brave Companions?
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>>223028560
People always say shit about the Targaryen, the Hightower, the Dornish, and so, but why no one brings up the fact that there isn't a single good man in house Frey
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14 INCHES
COLD
ROLLED
STEEL
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>>223032137
but there are, the Rosby Freys

the Blackwood Freys are the ones you have to watch out for
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Getting caught for a different petty crime every week and demanding trial by combat and somehow winning each time
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>>223030218
that’s a great idea Rajesh
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>>223029280
lmao
you reminded me that they wore deep cut dresses regularly and only wore prude dresses for fuberals
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I liked the Sand Snakes...
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>>223029893
She became one.
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>>223031141
Too many blue eyes make vermin frightened
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>>223029767

Gurms "plan" was shit because he doesn't understand warfare or history.

Tywin isn't a dumbass, there is no way he'd advance on Robb's forces in the Westerlands while leaving both Roose Bolton and Edmure Tully's forces _behind_ him.
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>>223028560
>Sand Snake edition
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yuh lookin' at me are, Jon Sno?!
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>>223033714
arse*
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>>223033299
>Tywin isn't a dumbass, there is no way he'd advance on Robb's forces in the Westerlands while leaving both Roose Bolton and Edmure Tully's forces _behind_ him.
Yes and no. It doesn't fit Tywin's strategy, but he *had* to do it or his army would come apart. Robb was seizing castles and goldmines in the Westerlands, and remember that most of the Lannister host were feudal levies from different houses. If Tywin didn't show he could protect their lands, his host would start to come apart. That was the point of Robb's strategy, to force Tywin to react to him by making him either abandon the riverlands entirely or see his army fall apart around him. Remember in Arya's Harrenhal chapters how low morale is among the Westermen?
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>>223034606
who's her little man?
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>>223035040
>three towers
>house costayne territory
>the reach
She's either at the beach with Gwyane or Daeron
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>>223032549
GIANTS
RIDING
MAMMOTHS
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>>223033810
>Yes and no. It doesn't fit Tywin's strategy, but he *had* to do it

No, and his own bannerman would have protested if he tried. They've all been trained from childhood in military matters and know full well if they leave Roose and Edmure in their rear with Robb at their front, it's a guaranteed massacre.

Robb's plan can only result in Tywin first going after Roose at the Ruby Ford then fighting Edmure at Stone Mill.

In fact Robb's plan (if Gurm knew his ass from his elbow) would have had Ronb's forces outflanking Tywin while he was engaged with Edmure.
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Daemon's host was well within its rights to burn all those tumblrtroons and muttlatto spawn to ashes
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>>223029014
luke is icsh
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>>223029596
He would probably kill him since the Stormlands don’t forget or some shit about Red Raloo
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>>223035040
Ironrod.
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>>223033321
Great butt on that one
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>>223036534

The show got the casting right for the Sand Snakes, as tv is a visual medium and it makes sense for them to have the "Hispanic" Dornish look.

Too bad the writing was utter trash...
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>>223032059
Real life Ormund Hightower according to showrunners of hotd.
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>>223037434
War crimes and Reachmen go hand in hand tbf. Lyonel Tyrell, the governor of Dorne basically just targeted civilians.
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Can we all agree that Lucerys had it coming? That little shit didn't even apologize.
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when is george gonna get to yi ti and shit i wanna see asian dragons
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>>223037496
>they asked him what it felt like to kill people
>he said “I don’t know I’ve only killed dornishmen”
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>>223038830
He’s not getting around to shit, he’s going to work on Dunk and Egg until he gets bored and then either die or edge Winds for another few years.
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>>223038830
Wait your turn. I want Dunk and at least a release date for Winds of Winter before you get your Kung Fu Panda animation.
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>>223028560
>Dornish women are the hottest in westeros
>brown
Holy based fatman
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you want a good season 4 but you need the bad cunky
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>>223035786
season 1 bran is icsh
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>>223032137
Wasn’t Robb’s squire a good one
Like they couldn’t let him in on the plan cause they knew he would tell Robb
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>>223038166
Finally, a fellow Luke hater.
I hate how TB call him just some innocent kid, he never showed any remorse for maiming his own uncle and still had the gall to insult him when he had mommy to hide behind.
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>>223039662
was robb's squire cute?
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>>223028560
>Anime portraits submod for ck2 agot is broken
Immersion ruined
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>>223039682
I got really annoyed that he didn't seem remorseful. Because even if I hated someone. If I took their eye I'd feel awful. He genuinely lacked empathy that little sociopath.
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>Coming of Age Tour to the Free Cities
I think I'll go to Lys as a ReachCHAD with infinite gold, what about you?
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>>223038166
>>223039682
>>223040128
I remember the threads here in the episode where Aemond was blinded, and all the dumb niggers insisting Aemond deserved it when those four shitheads jumped him and Luke cut his eye

I only wish Baela and Rhaena died too, I fucking hate them
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>>223028560
the velaryon's coat of arms should look something like pic rel instead of a seahorse or the weird horse in the tv show
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Does anyone think a show set post GoT would work? Like maybe ten to twenty years after Jon fucks off and Bran becomes king? Personally I think it would be retarded and they would scrap it before it would get anywhere like pic related.
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>>223039171
holy...
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>>223039396
>>223035786
Kill yourself faggot pedophile
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Found the novella collection in a charity shop for £1. Now I can pretend I’ve read them when people come over.
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>>223041084
Fans will eat anything up. Snow being cancelled was a mistake
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>>223041024
Velaryons shouldn’t have been NIGGERS
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>>223041331
How else could we justify Corlys being a three time traitor
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>>223035272
That's incorrect. It's a feudal military levy where oaths and obligations are a two-way street. If Tywin let Robb sack their castles with impunity, Tywin's bannermen would leave. Hence why Tywin went west, and hence why he was bashing his host against the fords until word of the Tyrells and Littlefinger reached him and gave him an alternative.
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Daeron the Timid.
Daeron the Inert.
Daeron the Daren't.
Daeron the "please sire, don't shout at me".
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>>223041502
aye and a king of England too
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>>223040178
source?
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>Blackwoods and Brackens start appearing in my dreams
I helped the Bracken kill the Blackwood btw.
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>>223041549
Palestine, a Roman majority Roman province. Be more Roman, like Rome.
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>>223041502
Such an awkward line. You can tell some smarmy prick in the writer's room had this epic historical reference kicking around in their head for like a year, couldn't figure out a way to work it into the script organically, so they just shoved it in.

>>223041549
I probably shouldn't be engaging with this but doesn't the birth of Jesus predate Islam by like 700 years
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>>223041614
>doesn't the birth of Jesus predate Islam by like 700 years
People are stupid. People shouldn't make socio-political statements until they've received a peer-reviewed certificate saying they can.
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>>223029596
He will only worry about that when Jon comes back to life
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>>223041291
What would Snow even have been about? Jon moping in a forest? Would he have started a new kingdom beyond?
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>>223041084
>Does anyone think a show set post GoT would work?
Only if it retcons S8 and goes past it.
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>>223041634
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>>223041584
>Be more Roman, like RoME.
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>>223041502
I think Cercei said something similar once. Why are Westerosi girls so chuddy
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>>223041084
20 years later Westeros is grim and dark totalitarian wasteland ruled by demon tree hivemind and its puppet Bran/Bloodraven. Our heroes try to fight back and hide away from all-seeing trees but they are losing. Gods seeing that without their intervention all hope for the land of Andals is lost decide to revive Bittersteel and Ormund.
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>>223041676
How would you retcon it? Anything you would keep?
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>>223041706
Cercei just hates the fact she is a woman.
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>>223041736
Daenerys wakes up from diarrhea induced coma and decides to rule Meereen after all.
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>>223041736
>How would you retcon it?
Season 8 should been been about the collapse of the North with the surviving characters fleeing into the Riverlands. And also the season should have 10 episodes again.
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>>223041553
These are some edited artwork of Aroma Sensei. I just saved some
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>>223041641
Jon not not wanting to go back south, but being forced to because season 8 ending left a political disaster. Then you can add Yi Ti or some Blackfyre thing with fAegon. That's just a bit later in the show timeline or whatever. Also Bloodraven comes back for real to fight
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>>223041739
Kek
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>>223041816
His Nier 2b series specifically
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>>223041524
>Daeron will never order you to suck his penis
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>>223041749
>season 8 was bad cuz my girl boss dragon kween died
Go FUCK yourself idiot
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>>223041749
Why did she even want the 7 Kingdoms. Why did no one tell her that having an army of savages wasn't gonna go down well when everyone already hates the Wildlings who arent technically foreigners.
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>>223032137
there were... weren't they forced out of the massacre plan
while not 'good' there's also the epilogue POV dude from i think storm of swords
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>>223041888
>His
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>>223042007
Because she's a bit silly. She hates her brother enough to want him dead. Yet her entire worldview is based on what he told her. In her chapters she brings up what she thinks of the houses and it's based on Viserys' opinion. She's basically cognitively dissonant
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>>223042082
You learn something new errday
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>>223041731
Ormund is a first man, give it up with your andal delusions.
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>>223042090
Well that's also on Bystander Selmy not telling her to shut the fuck up and telling her the actual truth.
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>>223042259
Selmy tries a few times to highlight that Aerys was hated for a reason but she tells him to shut up.
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>>223042231
Ormund is a dawnman actually
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>>223042316
He traveled all the way to Mereen cause he couldn't stand Joffrey, all to shut up when some teenage brat orders him to.
Nice one Bystander.
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>>223041426
>That's incorrect.

Except it's not, it's a basic fundamental rule of warfare not to leave an enemy at your rear, as you will get fucked every time.

This means the only option Tywin and the Westermen have, is either take out Roose, then Edmure and finally Robb one at a time or abandon Harrenhal and march west on the Goldroad to reinforce Daven Lannister, who is putting together a new force at Casterly Rock (who doesn't need help, as he's competent and the Westerlands can rise more troops).

The problem with the first option is even though Tywin has more men then the combined Northmen-Riverlander forces, even if he wins _both_ engagements against first Roose and then Edmure, (he won't) he'll have taken too many casualties to confront Robb.

The second option is essentially abandoning the war in the Riverlands and leaving the Crownlands (and Kingslanding) exposed to Roose and Edmure's forces, who will raid the fuck out of it.

In the book, Tywin just blithely walks away from Harrenhal to go after Edmure and Roose Bolton just... sits there and does nothing.

Because Gurm don't know shit.
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>>223042380
>Except it's not
Except it is.

You're listing desired strategies and fundamental rules of war, while ignoring the reality of the feudal obligations Tywin had to meet. Whether or not you like it, it's reality in both Westeros and our history.

You mentioned earlier that you didn't recall the Westerman morale issue in Harrenhal, so I recommend you reread Arya's chapters in A Clash of Kings. They will be enlightening.
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>>223042090
Someone needs to tell her to just stay put. Shes gonna crash out when people start liking the foreigner with the foreign army.
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>>223042380
>Roose Bolton just... sits there and does nothing.
Completely in character for Roose.
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>>223042446
Yeah she’s gonna seethe like you are right now for the same reasons
“Omgggg why do people hate my barbarian rape orcs? Aegon has exiled Westerosi knights, that’s like the same thingggguhhh it’s not faaaiiirrrrr, ugh guess I’m justified in burning you hypocrites alive-w-what the heck why are you stabbing me???”
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>>223041584
>Palestine, a Roman majority Roman province.

After the Jews chimped out and got curb stomped by the Romans but even before, the entire eastern Mediterranean coastal region was a mishmash of ethnic groups and Jews weren't even the majority.
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>>223042474
Yeah it's actually funny that anyone would think that Roose would do something to HELP the Stark cause lol
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>>223042446
*not liking
>>223042500
I meant no one is gonna like her savage armies or a foreign queen. So she should stay in Essos.
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>>223042409
>feudal obligations

George, please. You already fucked up the storyline because you don't know fuck all about warfare or history but what's done is done.
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>>223042543
Kill jester.
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>>223042543
If you don't understand the term, just say so and I can explain it for you lol
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>>223042514
>Yeah it's actually funny that anyone would think that Roose would do something to HELP the Stark cause lol

At that point in the story there is no reason for Roose to betray Robb, the Northmen-Riverlanders SHOULD have massacred the Westermen if they stupidly marched right past them.
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>>223042594
Roose had already betrayed Robb at the Green Fork, and had clearly been hedging his bets from the beginning.

Not surprising considering the odds against them.
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If Roose marched all the way across the Riverlands to join his forces with Edmure and defeat Tywin short of capturing the man himself only for Robb to yell at them both about his secret plan being ruined I’d think he’d be justified in joining the red wedding plot.
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>>223042710
you don't think he's already justified? the starks are the ancient enemies of the boltons.
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>>223042543
that's moonboy
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>>223042543
Aegon “Jinglebells” Frey
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they should make a mini series about aegons conquest or adapt the chapters from maegor to jaehaerys
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Love triangle will happen
>fAegon loves Daenerys
>Daenerys loves Jon
>Jon loves his pals Ghost and Longclaw
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>>223043259
Jon loves Val
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>>223043246
Aegons Conquest is getting a movie. I would rather have a TV Show
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>>223043285
i don't get why, unless they only show it from the POV of the Westerosi

it's boringly one-sided
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>>223043285
>Aegons Conquest is getting a movie.
>movie.
Aegons conquest is like 10 pages of a book.
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I'm new to this serie. Is GOT the end of the franchise? Or does something else happen after like a new rebellion/war?
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>>223043327
>>223043344
Aegons Conquest as TV show should cover:
>the initial conquest (6/7)
>Invasion of the Iron Islands
>Sistermans Rebllion
>First Dornish War
And maybe an early sister where young Aegon fucks about in Essos or whatever
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>>223043391
GOT is the end of the literary lore, yes.
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>>223043391
>Is GOT the end of the franchise?
Timeline wise? Yes. It's the main series. The book series its based on is unfinished. They have some projects that may take place after GOT but those are in preproduction.
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>>223041084
A big problem is HBO being retarded toward the shit ending, they defend it.
You have three main way for a show set post GoT:

The first is the logical way
-Dorne and the Iron islands wage war for independence, and they are not alone.
-All the reach's lords revolt against bronn and so bran, even more the Hightower. Dumb & dumber were so retarded to think the Hightower would bend the knee to bronn.
-Tyrion is a kinslayer and lost publicly a trial by combat so everyone in westeros want him dead, by the will of the gods old and new.
-Bran is a sorcerer worshipping the old gods so the faith will wage a holy war against him.
-No ally for bran except the damaged vale and the damaged and starving north.
-Dany's body at volantis so enjoy the red priest killing all the people involve or supporting her murder, if not resurrecting her or healing her if she's not dead.
-Plenty of other massive public and nobility problem, like sam grand maester or brienne woman knight of the king's guard or having a totally empty treasury and massive damage from the war, a ruined capital city, etc
You can do some story with that but it will show that season 8 is bad and HBO is against that.

The second is the plot armor way, everything work great despite everything being wrong, but you can do less, if not no interesting story at all and it will be blatantly retarded.

The third way is a story outside westeros or far enough like arya traveling but that not interesting, or the show snow with suicidal jon who build and destroy and rebuild his hut wich is not interesting, or dany resurrected or healed at essos and deciding to stay there, or other stuff but it's not as interesting as a complete full story with westeros.
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Danys heel turn was such bad writing, a woman would never just snap out of nowhere like that and become a complete monste-ACKKK
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>>223043259
>>fAegon loves Daenerys
>>Daenerys loves fAegon
>>Daenerys kills fAegon
>>Jon loves his pals Ghost and Longclaw
ftfy
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I don't understand why they can't just remake season 8 and continue the show from their. Does HBO hate money
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>>223043558
Why rename season 8? It was good
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>>223043259
Jon is dead you coping retard
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>>223043601
Erm it was mid tho
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>>223043623
Go back to pooping Maddy McDany
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>>223043558
they could make multiple season 8 with each of them having a different ending, with the excuse of the book not being finished and waiting for them, but they are stupid.

the ending with the night king winning would be great, and the one with dany winning would appease the backlash, and the one with cersei winning could be KINO.
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>>223043519
There was no heel turn, she was willing to have dothraki massacre everyone if it suited her needs from day one. Only retards ever thought this wannabe tyrant was a good person.
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>>223043558
GOT ended so badly that many people here want a remake like the Harry Potter show to retell the story.
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Daemon's Targaryen Princess daughter sucking Hightower cock and being bred constantly
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>>223042231
>Andals and First Men unite under the banner of Seven to defeat demon trees
Kino.
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So House Dayne are secret Valyrians, right?
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>>223043887
why is the pic edited?
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>>223043887
Why are their faces censored?
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>>223043264
Jon becomes disgusted with Val when she says they should kill Shireen. He hates murderous women.
Jonerys fags lost. Jon/Arya fags lost.
JonsaCHADS winning.
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>>223043932
No, according to GRRM, but they're Dornish which is better.
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>>223043952
To avoid showing Ormund's cum.
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>>223028813
>fails to inform his naive friend (who risked his life for him) that the whore he proposed to was pregnant with another mans child
hes already irredeemable
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>>223043932
>only known woman is mega whore
Seems Valyrian.
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Would you rather be lord paramount of the Westerlands or the Reach?

During a time of peace, that is.
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>>223044042
Goldmines are dry by the events of asoiaf, so the Reach
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>>223044064
Sorry, meant in the books
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>>223043558
they're already doing that with the war of westeros game
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>>223043949
Likely aesthetic™

Smudge art
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>>223044042
>>223044064
>>223044092
Book or show I like the Reach more. As Lord of Highgarden you have 80-100k men. Infinite food and the biggest navy commanded by your own vassal. Oldtown is also your vassal, the cultural center. Basically they're a super power and you have everything. Peace time just makes it even more comfortable.
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>>223044200
An independent Reach led by Daeron would surpass the rest of Westeros led by Rhaenyra and her Strong bastid in every metric.
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>>223044200
It's no wonder it took the Tyrells 200+ years to tard wrangle all their bannermen, they really do have a lot of powerful houses with esteemed heritages
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>>223044251

Maybe in bigotry and misogyny.
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>>223044200
Also. Something to note. There's no Lord Paramount of the Westerlands. Only uplifted houses (for examples Tullys or Tyrells) have this title. The Lannisters rule as a great house and liege lord via their ancestral kingship and submission to Aegon The Conqueror. If your house didn't rule a realm prior to kneeling. Then you had to get a new title to distinguish why your lordship suddenly was more important. As Riverrun was a smaller non royal seat. They simply had to get a new title to add on.
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>>223044270
…And chivalry. Don't forget about the andalic poetry



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