>Ghidorah Confirmedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw0YhiqOPFg
>spoiling yourselfwhy?
>ghidorah yet again
>>223064953Aw crap King Ghidorah's back.
>ghidorah
>>223065298You look tired, anon.Its time to rest.
i really only care about destroyah
>>223064953>GhidorahLAME We need /our/guy Hedorah back.
>>223064953I don't understand the appeal of those movies.
No gamera no buy
>>223064953Anguirus, Godzilla clone, and Smog monster fags btfo'd lol
>>223065326Would have loved Hedorah, especially since the director likes her. Still, doesn’t mean he can’t do another film with the Smog Monster, even if it isn’t tied in to the Minus continuity. >>223065354Gamera is owned by another company. That’s like complaining Wolverine isn’t in a Superman movie.
Bidibidibidibibidibidibidibibidibidibidibi chads stay winning.
>>223064953It's that time again
>>223065440Make a new gamera movie then.
>>223065440>her
>>223064953>GhidorahMakes sense since the title has Zero in it which was a dead give away. And also because they already have this model they made for the ride a few years back which likely gonna get tweaked a little bit much like how Ride Godzilla got tweaked to Minus One and Minus Zero. Also should note they have a Rodan and Mechagodzilla model too, but that's likely for Minus Zero Sequel (If there is one.)
>>223064953Budget for this one is...?
>>223064953>remember when we returned to godzilla's modest roots as a metaphor for japan's nuclear trauma?>well now we turned it into capeslop with big monsters lol
>>223065667Trust the plan
>>223065667All Godzilla series start serious and then become monster fight slop about a movie or two later. Showa did it, Heisei did it, Millennium legit started off with monster fight slop. Legendary-verse did it, and now Reiwa as well. You cannot stop the inevitable. (Unless your Shin Godzilla, and even that may have it soon according to the co director of that film if he had made a follow up.).
>>223064953>Ghidorah fighting Big G for the 30th time knowing damn well he is gonna lose Love it, Mothra when?
>>223065866After the alleged Mothra standalone film.
>>223065667I fucking love my WWE smackdown Monster slop, not surprised it's Ghidorah again though, could've used any other Toho monster that needs more spotlight, hell as much as I'm not a fan of Hedorah, he would've fit the aesthetic better. I guess I'm partially annoyed cause Legendary Ghidorah is still in everyone's heads, but I guess Minus Goji also needs his own Ghidorah.
I have Ghidorah fatigue.
>>223065667Literally the very first Godzilla sequel m8.
>>223066137just a weird little turtle feller innit
>>223065298>>223065252>>223065326They already have the model ready from the amusement park ride I don't know if there's truth but I've heard rumors of Ghidorah having evolutionary stages, 1st is a ground based "drake" form, then a flying single headed "wyvern" form, then finally the classic 3 headed design as the third form
>>223065536Also of note is the lightning from the teaser trailer is blue, and Ghidorah was originally planned to be an iridescent blue that would shift to gold or silver depending on how the light hits it
Where's my nigga Rodan?
>>223066344why not rodan and anguirus vs godzilla and then they become buddies in the sequel to fight ghidorah?
I would've preferred Biollante personally. They could've spun the radiation effect Godzilla has on anything organic into creating some fucked up plant person amalgamation due to the fallout from him BTFOing the tanks that shot at him. Wouldn't be a massive stretch to say any plants that grew in the area prior to them trying to rebuild began incorporating the DNA of the poor bastards caught in the blast zone and simply dug down into the soil to grow.
>>223066326Theres shots of yellow lightning as well. I would think Godzilla gets it himself in some way which would be blue vs yellow lightning/electricity. Only thing would be cool here is if Ghidorah is rocking these colors as the big twist of it all.
>>223066078Hedorah requires pollution as a plot device because that's his main energy source. Deathla was the scrapped concept of a Hedorah relative which fed off nuclear waste and decaying organic matter
How the fuck did we not get the Monster Zero reference name right in the fucking title of the movie. I didn’t even think about it.
>>223066912Wait till you look at the logo upside down
>>223066912>weits the first thing ppl mentioned when the title was revealed
>>223064953What is this from? Is there a Jap franchise along with the Rebecca Hall one and that series?
>>223064953I can remember people discussing what cool monster Toho might be bringing back for -0.0. You even had some fans speculating that Hedorah would return purely based on the shape of the "0"s.But instead we get King Ghidorah, yay. I hope that there'll still be Anguirus or some other kaiju, but I'm probably coping.
>>223065252Ghidorah is kino every time though. He's one of the few good parts of vs Gigan
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
>>223065529>He doesn't know that Hedorah's eyes are inspired by vaginas
>>223064953
Hedorahsissies eternally BTFO.
>>223065354>Latest Gamera film is already 20 years old (the shitty anime doesn't count)>No major studio is even hinting at his returnDaiei really dropped some of the best kaiju films of all time in the 90s only to leave the IP abandoned, what a shame.
>>223064953Minus One had some scenes that referenced Monsterverse Godzilla like the slow charging atomic breath. Now Minus Zero has zero gravity and Godzilla getting dropped on his back from the sky...
98% people talking solemnly2% monsters on screenExactly the ratio I was looking for in my kaiju movie! Surely this one will be the best one of them all! PREORDERED, SEAT RESERVED, OUTFIT PICKED OUT, ESCORT DATE HIRED
>MINUS ZEROThat title doesn’t ,are any fucking sense and I blame it all on the Japs. Idc that it’s probably because Monster Zero is the villain it’s such a huge miss to not follow their own naming convention and call this one Godzilla Zero. Going from Minus One to Minus Zero is retarded if you know what the numbers mean and completely goes against the “Japan beginning at negative 1 after the war” underpinning. Fucking cash grab bullshit
No Amanda Fix no watch
>>223066463Calling it now. They're pulling a GMK with this one and Ghidorah is the good monster and Godzilla is the antagonist again.
>>223067755What are the chances he'll be a young Orochi again?
>>223067839Probably high.
>>223067839Ghidorah being young orochi was cool but I still prefer him being a space monster. When was the last time he was a space monster though?
>>223065529Toho confirmed Showa Hedorah is a female of the species, while Millennium is a male. Since Showa is the most famous Hedorah, I went with She.
>>2230679122019
>>223067912Monsterverse and the shitty Netflix trilogy are both alien Ghidorahs
>>223067912Thing is how are they going to make Ghidorah a space monster here in late 1940s Japan? But what would be funny is if we find out this Ghidorah is the very same Ghidorah from the 1991 film before being sent back to 1991.
>>223064953The ending of Minus One was so fucking retarded I can't look forward to this.
>>223064953The eternal battle continues it would seem
>>223068106Ghidorah dropping Godzilla is just a staple now
>>223066326>the lightning from the teaser trailer is blueits yellow
>>223068579Which was originally Rodan's thing. Ghidorah was the one who zap godzilla in the balls.
Ghidorah is obviously gonna be a man-made monster to fight Godzilla that goes rouge
I didn't really like Minus One, it was like a Japanese version of those American movies that are like "War is terrible because it made our soldiers feel sad!"
>>223064953>Ghidorah again
>>223065529The G-force guide confirms Hedorah's species has two genders. The one in Final Wars was a male and can be distinguished by its arm whip.
>>223067755this is prob the case because the characters still seem so fucking pissed that the goji is still kicking around
>>223065252Ghidorah is cool, fuck off tourist.
>>223067585Clearly should have been> Godzilla Divided By Zero
>>223069210Eat shit King Tardoretardah, Hedorah WILL be avenged
>>223068106Bad day to be a Red Sox fan.
>>223064953Just watched the trailer again. It's really cool how they did all of Ghidorah's roars and cackles over the years. It's kinda interesting how all of them played together really fits for one Ghidorah, as his 3 heads all squawking should sound like a cacophony of chaotic howls and cackles. Very cool, I'm very excited
GhidorahCHADS won
I have Ghidorah fatique.
>>223069018>Man, fuck those soldiers. As long as I lived, who give a shit about them?
>film is praised and it's success is largely attributed to it's grounded realistic take>let's introduce an alien and make it another monster vs monster movieMonsterverse might have ruined this franchise forever
>>223070048Nigga that's the entire franchise
>>223070048See >>223066137
>>223070107And Legendary is already doing the Monster vs Monster bit
>>223070048>You can't have Godzilla monsters in your Godzilla movie
>>223070132>>223070220Now explain the point of having 2 godzilla vs monster franchises
>>223070305>Can't refute >Keep moving goalpost
Tonight I drink the tears of Hedorahsissies.
>>223064953We need a good ghidorah to wipe my mind after the trash that was monsterverse ghidorah.
>>223064953One of these days Toho will remember him...
whats his endgame
>>223064953Why is the Godzilla design so familiar to Legendary Pictures Godzilla. Did Legendary Pictures pull rank on TOHO??? Minus One Godzilla was such a great design and so terrifying to behold. Will not watch.
>>223064953I was hoping that it would be my based gigastacy Biollante after his waifu got infected at the end of 1
>>223070686>Biollante in current year
>>223070048>Anon outing himself for watching one Godzilla film.
>>223070686Female Titan?
>>223070520Godzuki?
G - 1.0 was a libertarian masterpiece
>>223070686>no giant japanese monster girl GFWhy fucking live?
>>223070648Annihilating everything that exists.
It looks bad?
>>223064953>filmed for imaxso i can only get le true experience in a couple of meme cinemas in the world?
>>223070648>Ghidorah is a serial killer with a kill-count in the trillionsI forget which IDW comic this came from but it's the best explanation of the character
I'm lookinig forward to hearing the music as I am to seeing the movie itself. I doubt we'll get Ifukube's King Ghidorah theme, but we might get the battle themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNRuL213koIIt'd be fitting too, since it was originally from King Kong vs. Godzilla, whose main title was used in Minus One>>223070648Some kaiju just want to watch worlds burn
I thought Godzilla was going to take Manhattan in the new movie
>>223071053That would be too kino
I'm just happy Godzilla is gaining attention after all these years. We had decades of pure kino that was overlooked or found too cheesy B-rated scifi flicks. Now y'all gonna enjoy some good monster fights.
>>223064953>Same shit over and over and over
>>223064953gravity anguirus bros… not like this…these movies were gonna be a trilogy, right? i wonder who they’ll bring in for the third. ghidorah always feels so final-boss-ish that most of the rest of the kaiju catalogue feels like a downgrade.i know it was more of a King Kong movie, but the orangutan and big white one from the last Monsterverse movie never really felt like much of anything, though that could just be a consequence of most of the American-made ones being kinda generic. really has me hoping that supernova having space godzilla and/or gigan is legit, just cause it’d be something with history to it.i would’ve personally loved a more down-to-earth sequel with just goji, anguirus, and the muto as the surprise secret addition, then done ghidorah 3rd, but i’m sure that’s a very niche opinion lol
>New installment>No HedorahAgain
>>223071053It was already done by Jason.
>>223071360Biollante or Destoroyah still possible, but I think even Toho understands the fatigue of alpha-omega serious tone series people get numbed out by the third title. All they need to do is look at their track record of every initial Godzilla in a new era and how much attendance drops from first to second and beyond.
>>223071366>HedorahTo the layman but she's known as the Smog Monster to us Chads. (The 1971 movie is female but the 2004 version was a male)
>>223071456Why was the male one such a pushover bitch?
>>223071378True, but sadly this was the only shot in that entire movie which actually took place in New York. Rest was on that fucking boat and then the other shots were in Vancouver. So if anything, it's Jason Takes British Columbia, guest starring NYC's Times Square for 2 mins.
>>223071516limited time and money. they didnt even want to make Zilla 1998 as much as a bitch but didnt have the time to do more with it
>>223071360no Yamazaki said Minus Zero is the last of his movies
>>223071778That's what he also said about Minus One. And also him saying Godzilla The Ride was his only Godzilla Project and it wouldn't be more than Always Sunset On Third Street Cameo.
>>223071759>>223071516>>223071456Hedorah requires pollution to survive and function and the world of 1949 wasn't polluted enough to sustain it You want Smog Monster to exist in a world with NO SMOG
>>223071778>no Yamazaki said Minus Zero is the last of his moviesAnd then he announces another Godzilla film at the end of 2027 because this film made triple the money than the first film did. Only director who called it quits was Anno due to his bipolarism with Evangelion.
>>223071421Looking back, and if you actually paid attention to the ideas vetoed by Toho's "Godzilla Room" (cabal of executives who were in charge of all writing and editing decisions for the late Heisei and Millennium series), you'd realize that decline is entirely self inflicted
>>223071421Biollante is more likely for Shin Godzilla 2, since Shin 1 reworked the story elements of 1984 for a modern setting Genichiro Shiragami could be introduced as a protege or research partner of Goro Maki who continued his work after his death
>>223071421Biollante will likely never get another film besides showing up as an extra seeing Toho is still traumatized by how badly Godzilla vs Biollante performed at the box office in Japan. They really really really underestimated on releasing it the same week as both Back to the Future part 2, and Tim Burtons Batman. This traumatization is why the studio has always played with super safe when it came to Godzilla films involving other monsters with it being Mechagodzilla, Rodan, King Ghidorah, and Mothra. Really didn't help either that Godzilla Final Wars was a colossal dud that they didn't expect to flop harder than say Terror of Mechagodzilla or Godzilla vs Megaguirus (Which even Bandai feared that film was gonna flop by putting the figures in a blister pack lol.)
>>223071950They'd have to move heaven and hell to get Anno to come back to make a Shin Sequel though. I want a sequel, but doubt Shinji Higuchi can do it solo.
>>223071989https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qELvHXj2P60An analog horror hack did Biollante better than Toho could
>>223071989Most of those execs are dead and retired now since they were also heavily biased towards the Showa era. Shin, the Fest shorts, Minus One, and now Minus Zero are all evidence that the Heisei fans are gaining more control over the brand Also Tokyo Vanishing is likely to set up or show a new meltdown and Junior, since next year (2027) is the 25th anniversary of the Kiryu saga (Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, Tokyo SOS) and meltdown would allow a transition from MireGoji to KiryuGoji
>>223071516He's up against FW Goji who no diffs the whole roster before hitting SSJB Ghidorah with an RKO that put the entire franchise out of commission for 10 years. That there are two confirmed sexes for Hedorahs and the "fight" wasn't the female one giving birth to a bunch of Minilla is solely due to Japanese decency laws
>>223072090>Shin, the Fest shorts, Minus One, and now Minus Zero are all evidence that the Heisei fans are gaining more control over the brandAnd yet they're basically at best repeating exactly those old heads did to a complete T by playing the super safe post 1990 Toho did. At worst, they're doing stuff thats so different that it would've been brand suicide had it been any other monster such as all three anime series/movies (including still on shelf Godzilla anime of the high school kid getting Godzilla's powers like it were a offbrand Digimon special.). If they were bold, we'd have at the very least fucking Gigan to show up in these movies rather than constantly milk the same four Godzilla co-stars yet again.
>>223064953>new roastie girlboss leaderfuck off
>>223072224You also forget this is Japan aka where Japan religiously follow what the previous generation did. They love their ancestors and elders and must follow the teachings until their extinction.
>>223072224Biollante and Destoroyah got new forms for a recent game, Spacegodzilla is Supernova's big bad (unless you're an intern with secret info on the real antagonist), Tokyo Vanishing's big bad is Monster X/Keizer Ghidorah Need I remind you not even KOTM properly adapted Burning, instead their version was closer to the Rage/Critical Mass mode from the Pipeworks games
>itt: chuddies seething GhiGODrah
>>223072330>Spacegodzilla is Supernova's big bad Gonna be funny to see that it turns out Spacegodzilla is also an original monster again after everyone thought Shimo was Spacegodzilla in the last monsterverse flick. Maybe it will be a Godzilla, just not Spacegodzilla, like some Galaxy or Galactic rather than Space to avoid having to pay Toho any more money.
>>223072379Shimo was created to replace Godzilla in case a new licensing deal could not be reached, concept art literally depicts white recolors of Goji But instead, we did get a new deal that appears to be better than the last one
I still prefer shin godzilla
>>223072438At first I thought Shimo was the ice kaiju from unleashed
>>223068106KoTM hits such a sweet spot for me between the big weightyness of the titans, the hi-tech machines, and the unapologetic monster brawls. It's a shame the human cast is so milquetoast and charisma vacuum.
>>223072462I just can't stomach using camcorder stock footage for any reason. Anno fucked up by doing that
>>223072479That was what I thought as well Then after Toho got wind of what Shimo was originally planned to be, she was reworked into a Legally Distinct Anguirus
Why are broccoli haired limp wrists even trying to dictate this movie? This is made for your girlfriend's boyfriend. If you want less monsters and more libshit you already have a half dozen American movies.
>>223072379I wouldn't be surprised if that actually is the case seeing the trailer is taking forever to come out for that movie seeing it will piss a lot of people off due to the fans gaslighting themselves with constant bait. >>223072438Nah, Shimo was always going to be in the movie with or without Godzilla since the deal was done shortly after Godzilla vs Kong was complete. The only thing they changed was adding Mothra into the film at the last min seeing the film itself was thought to going to bomb without her being involved. There was even alleged images of the monster Mothra replace circulating from some leaked test screening which the testers gave a negative response until the change was made.
>>223072520>she was reworked into a Legally Distinct AnguirusShe wasn't. Because Anguirus is fucking dead in the Monsterverse based on this cutting room floor image of the Atlantis scene in KOTM
>>223072589She was reworked into a quadruped with a spikey back shell and a frill on her head
>>223072589And this is why I find it hilarious people legit thought Toho was going to bring him back in Minus Zero when even Legendary disrespected him by not even having him be alive before the events of the 2014 film. Japan only seems him as a buddy jobber and America sees him as only a dead one.
>>223072338And it's glorious. Smog monster cucks lose yet again.
>>223069210Fuck YOU tourist i want Anguirus.Its too soon for Ghidorah
>finish going through the Showa blu-rays last night with my mum>drive over and watch the trailer together this morning>mum was hyped after hearing Showa Ghidorah's cryI'm a little sad that it isn't Anguirus or Ebirah.I would've bought day 1 front row tickets if it was Gabara or Titanosaurus. Just for the lulz.
>>223073575Kino.
>>223072483>It's a shame the human cast is so milquetoast and charisma vacuum.It needed more Charles Dance and less Eleven.
>>223070048>>film is praised and it's success is largely attributed to it's grounded realistic take>>let's introduce an alien and make it another monster vs monster movieAnon, this is what the franchise has been since the beginning
>>223070048Goji tourist detected
i dont get godzilla movies
>>223070990They may use it, the used Ifubuke's theme in the prior movie. His themes are just attached to the characters at this point and the japs are pretty autistic about paying homage to the classics, which I respect>>223070658It's basically the same exact design from the previous movie are you retarded? They just made him bigger, and have a few more spikes, and a few more red glowing molten bits it seems. I like the edits and can't wait to see him in action. This has ended up being one of my favorite Godzilla designs ever, and I'm shocked because I hated it when it first came out. I love when Godzilla is filled with malice, and this version of him feels the most deliberately evil
>>223071251You can tell the prior film left a big effect because it's getting needless retarded hate on here, which means it's popular and in people's minds if faggots feel the need to shill against it, as is the style of our time
>>223066412I just watched Godzilla vs. Biollante today and while the final fight was absolutely kino I failed to find the rest nearly as good as everyone claims.>convoluted conspiracy plot>no explanation as to how Biollante gets into the lake, or why Godzilla beelines to her besides uhhh they share cells I guess>the psychic chick as a whole (which the Gamera Heisei movies did infinitely better)Is it just me?
we gonna get to see the humanoids growing out of his tail reeking havoc in nipland this time???
>>223066344In my butt!my booty wooty of course! haha! : D
>>223074548>Is it just me?It is yeah
>>223074548Pretty sure Biollante got out of the doctors house after when the arab agent guy attacked the two American agents trying to get the Godzilla cells that were in the house. If I remember correctly, the arab guy shot a window when he panicked when the pre biollante vine started attacking him. Godzilla went to the lake because he heard Biollantes calls and was more curious on why he's basically hearing "himself" from far away. Basically a curious Godzilla who was likely showing some kind of territorial aspect (Which isn't too surprising seeing Godzilla did follow birds in the previous film after hearing them making bird noises as they bailed when Godzilla attacked the nuclear powerplant to feed on its reactor.)
>>223064953>>Ghidorah Confirmed?
>>223074548Godzilla vs Biollante was the last mostly original Godzilla film before they went basically full remake old Showa films that all ended up being just overall worse and lesser versions of those said films. Also the Tristar film was another reason why the Heisei films started declining hard after Godzilla vs King Ghidorah.
>>223074992The Tristar film was released in 98, the Heisei era ended in 1995 with Destroyah.What actually led to the decline of the Heisei era was the decline of the Japanese film industry (which was never as successful as their television industry) and the crash of the Japanese economy.However, the Millennium series WAS made as a response to 1998, and featured some Showa type movies such as 2000 and Megaguirus. But the Millennium era is forgotten for a reason, because it sucks.
is it really that hard to make new kaijus. like i love the classics but come on its Ghidorah again for the 100th time. say what you want about the monsterverse kaijus but at least their trying out new creatures for Godzilla to fight
>>223075433Most of the shit they make is just more gorilla slop or bioluminescent glowing skinny tentacle shit.
>>223065667Fuck off tourist, that's how this has always worked. You can always smell a non-fan a mile away when they trot out the "muh nuclear metaphor" shit like that's some ironclad rule, because they heard someone else say it. We've had four movies out of 38 where it's been the super cereal "muh trauma from 80 years ago", and the rest have been monsters throwing each other into buildings.
>>223064953Fucks sake I JUST turned my PC off and then saw this, by the time I get it started I would have to go to work
>>223065866I know I'm in the vast majority, but I've always thought that Rodan was the cooler flying kaiju.
>>223067397As I understand, they approached Toho about doing a Godzilla vs Gamera movie, and Toho was like "Nah, that's ok..."
>>223075433As I said, they tried that in the Millennium era, and nobody knows who Orga or Megaguirus are for a reason. Simply having "an original monster" is not the easy solution it seems. There actually has to be a compelling reason to have a new monster - a new storyline - and if you are being original just to be original that's how you get a Ebirah or Gabara or King Caesar literally who. You need a good story first and foremost, and most "original" Godzilla opponents end up being either giant bugs or incoherent vaguely Godzilla shaped blobs.The reason why we keep getting Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla is because they work. They have clear rivalries and stories naturally follow. There are other fan favorites they should also try adapting, who are all proven not only popular but have good storylines. Hedorah has an easy enviromentalist storyline, Gigan has arguably the one of the best space invader storyline (with the best being the Black Hole Gorilla aliens) due to the strength of the cockroach aliens concept, and Biollante also has strong potential due to it being a natural rival of Godzilla but also the novelty of being plant-based.Fans do deserve different monsters, but not necessarily 'new' ones.
>>223067585Should have been Godzilla Zero and skipped ahead to the 60s, and then wrap the third one up in the 80s with Godzilla One, when Japan was an economic powerhouse. It could have been a multi-generational thing, and it could have been cool seeing Japan evolving to deal with the kaiju threat over the course of decades.
>>223072483I've thought about attempting a fan edit that cuts out the shitty attempts at humor.
>>223075433>is it really that hard to make new kaijus.Apparently because there's like 30 different 'Long front legs vaguely reptillian creature' and 200 random animal head on a mass of tentacles and countless "Animal but big" things.Oh wow big ice lizard and big monkey this go round, how original. I miss Gamera, his shit was wild as fuck.
>>223075579Doing a Half Century War semi-adaptation would have been peak.
>>223074147If you didn't imprint early, chances are you'll never get it.
>>223075621Half Century War would be a god-tier animated series but I'm pretty sure toho's done with that after everyone hated the anime trilogy.
>>223075654I think Toho doesn't like Half Century War because it's an American comic.
>>223075397I don't give a shit what anyone says, I'll always have a soft spot for Final Wars' campy ass. Don Fry was talking about it recently, and said someone on set handed him a gun with blanks and he misunderstood the interpreter, thinking they were telling him to test the gun, and he just fired it on set while there was a bunch of people standing around, and everyone was like "Dude, what the fuck?"
>>223075674Final Wars was a sincere celebration of all the Godzilla films that came before it, but Millennium as a whole was the result of Japan seething about 98 despite it not actually being that bad.
>>223075615>I miss Gamera, his shit was wild as fuck.On that subject, Pacific Rim had some decent kaiju designs, namely Knife Head, Intruder, and the flying one that attacks Hong Kong that I'm forgetting the name of at the moment. Those were actually decent modern takes on the crazier Gamera designs.
>>223066967
>>223075711Also correct but I don't miss Pacific Rim.I feel like someone already did the monkey paws wish for a sequel and I won't have another curled finger on my conscious.
>>223075714Ebirah was my very first monster and forever daydream of tennis with claws.
I enjoyed the trailer for godzilla minus one that i enjoyed the movie
>>223075735It was a nice stopgap until Godzilla came back on a semi-permanent basis, same with Cloverfield. It was one hell of a dry spell in the decade between Final Wars and '14.
What if Godzilla was only bigger in the Statue of Liberty scene in the teaser because it's actually a Ghidorah scene in the movie?>>223074679Wrong recent Japanese Godzilla remake
>>223064953I am Asian face blind - is that pilot the same one from the first movie who abandoned his kamikaze run?
Pacific Rim was important I think because not only did it revitalize interest, but I think it showed just what the main appeal of kaiju were in the first place (the scale of the fights, the sense of weight and power) and how to achieve it. We wouldn't have gotten Shin Godzilla or Minus One without Pacific Rim in the way that we did.It's all a 'conversation' between east and west. It's why 1998 isn't as much of a disaster as people think it is, it was part of this same conversation and was quite influential in certain aspects - especially in tying in local politics and making Godzilla seem more 'natural'. It's not a perfect film, but people forget that after Destroyah, Godzilla was "dead" and Toho was ready to retire the character for decades because it was becoming too costly and there was a lack of public interest.
>>223075844Yeah, the whole cast is returning. On one hand, I like that cast so I'm glad to see them return, but on the other, I think it might have been cooler if the timeskip had been considerable larger. Like the little girl maybe being in her 20s.
>>223075867I do wonder how big the gap would have been if '98 hadn't essentially summoned the Millennium series into existence. There's 21 years between Destroyah and Shin Godzilla, and even the latter almost feels more like a Hideaki Anno vehicle that just so happens to be a Godzilla movie.
>>223067499>Godzilla getting dropped on his back from the sky>Reference to monsterverseYou have to be 18 to post here
>>223075905>On one hand, I like that cast so I'm glad to see them return, but on the other, I think it might have been cooler if the timeskip had been considerable larger.While I can appreciate the concept, this is probably one of the rare Godzilla movies that needs to bring back the cast of the previous movies. Their chemistry was absolutely one of the main reasons why Minus 1 was as good as it was, if they didn't have that absolutely dynamite rapport then the entire early to middle section of the movie would've been a slog. It really says something that four guys on a boat shooting explosives were fun enough to be their own little side piece before the giant monster stuff ever came about.I know these characters, I like these characters, I wanna see these characters again. That's rare for this genre. Not unheard of, Miki is and will forever be one of my favorite Goji characters and Asagi sold the Gamera Trilogy, but obviously very rare.
>>223067499>Now Minus Zero has zero gravityThat was 10 years before the Monsterverse.>and Godzilla getting dropped on his back from the sky...That was even older.
Y'all getting baited so hard, I didn't take /tv/ to be this gullible.
>>223075433Some of the Legendary Monsters like Behemoth and Methuselah were cool but they're rarely used. They hit it out of the park with the M.U.T.O's and Skull Devil's but we're never seeing them in any significant way ever again. Tiamat was cool too but they killed her off after a brief fight with GodzillaLegendary's Kaiju's are all underutilized and Kong v Godzilla 2 was filled with giant gorilla's that don't do anything other than immediately job to Godzilla. I'm tired of the Monkey
How do I mentally prepare myself for Monsterverse Godzilla 2? I made it up to Mothra getting pacified before some guys break into the lab before quitting out of the movie in anguish.
Old Godzilla movies with the most action?
>>223064953....ANOTHER one?
>>223076124Legendary series turning into nothing but King Kong movies because they have no idea what to do with Godzilla and Toho forces Legendary to pay for any other monsters has been a huge blackpill. I'm not even excited for Supernova anymore. Everything since KOTM has been shit, and KOTM was only good because Ghidorah took no prisoners.
>>223075433You mean the cloverfield monster copy and paste designs ad nauseam?
>>223064953Hurray I wanted some Japanese monster vs monster after two movies of humans vs Godzilla which was getting stale if we got three in a war. I definitely getting worried they'd do it again since the last two Godzilla vs Humans were seen as critic and box office success. Those movies were good but a story can only be told in different ways so many times before I tire.
>>223075433Problem with the Monsterverse now is that it's just slowly turning into King Kong wankfest with Gojira just serving in the backdrop.
>>223076340Also I'm fine with the decision to use Ghidorah as he's Godzilla's most iconic foe, so reimagining him first after a drought in Japanese monster vs monster makes sense and assures more likely box office success. I think safe doesn't always mean bad and if this does well then maybe they'll go experimental for the third.
>>223076409>King Kong wankfestAs long as Godzilla isn't around.
>>223076487It happens with or without Godzilla. Like the Mechagodzilla movie turned into a King Kong movie.
>>223076152It's such a bad move to see the Legendary Godzilla series start off strong and start whimpering out because Toho requiring obscene payment to use Kaiju's they haven't touched in decadesAnd including Kong into the story was a bad move in hindsight, it's done nothing but hinder Godzilla's role n the story. He's been reduced to a big dumb bully and not the guy trying to keep everyone playing nice with each other.He also doesn't feel strong? It's his atomic breath never connecting when fighting Kong, it's weird. He just singes some hair off Kong before going back to missing all his shots. Same with Skar King too. What was the point of Godzilla getting that new upgrade if the only thing he's allowed to hit is another bigger Kaiju who can tank it and suffer no visible damage. Even got knocked out by Kong repeatedly punching him the face with the Kaiju equivalent of a knuckle duster. If it's that simple as getting on Godzilla and start wailing then what's the point?I don't know, I just wasn't very entertained watching Godzilla spam his atomic breath in a fight he could have handled hand to hand because he wasn't taking Kong seriously. Godzilla's rivalry with Skar also doesn't seem to matter much in the final fight. They have a brief back and forth but really Skar is a Kong villain that we're told is Godzilla villain and Godzilla doesn't really need to be there I think what really sucks is that Kongfags get really uppity when you bring any of this up and act like Godzillafags are asking for too much
>>223076575Completely agree. Kong has been shafted as much as Godzilla has, and it's all because they have no consistent long term story and instead just do whatever film to film.
>>223076575>It's his atomic breath never connecting when fighting KongGodzilla blasted a hole from ground level to the hollow earth and through that stupid fucking wormhole thing. King kong would get vaporized if it hit him directly.
I would like to buy a plan B with her.
>>223076744I can already tell she's autistic as fuck.
>>223076685But you can see how lame it is when he never hits anything that couldn't take it for plot reasons. Skar had an army of Monkey's but Godzilla opts to shove them out of the way and they disappear from the movie afterwardsThe audience wants to see what Godzilla's new upgrade can do and because he isn't allowed to hit Skar and Kong square in the chest with it his only other option is the kaiju that can tank it no problem, so it feels like we're back to the normal blue atomic breath
The bidididididi better be in it.
>>223076852Watch the trailer.
>>223064953>filmed for IMAXNah, I'll just watch it in standard and pay the discount matinee fee like usual
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>>223076808No I agree it is lame. Honestly I didn't even bother watching the last one because of how shit GvK was.
>>223077127Where should Minus One go on this list?A third potential route after 54?
I remember the early days where everyone thought Shin Godzilla was the original 1954 Godzilla still healing from the Oxygen Destroyer.
>>223076057I agree with that too. One thing I really liked was that everyone, even the minor characters had their respective times to shine. Easily the best human cast who has ever been in a Godzilla movie.
IT WAS HIS FUCKING TURN DO YOU KNOW HOW BADLY I WANTED PSYCHEDELIC JAPANESE BODY HORROR WITH MODERN GRAFIX
>>223076152According to a recent test screening, Supernova is a lot more Godzilla-focused, and is closer in tone to the early movies, and more of that sense of scale and stakes. GxK was Megalon levels of camp, and they really needed to back off from that. Compare the final fight in that to the Honolulu or Golden Gate Bridge scene in G'14. It's embarrassing.
>>223070305What do you mean, that's been Godzilla's bread and butter for like seventy years
bidididididididididididididididididi
>>223074219>and a few more red glowing molten bits it seems.Man if they're building up to the meltdown godziller from vs Destroyah, that's gonna be rad as fuck
>>223077441Hedorah sucks and so does his movie. It's a boring pile of shit that's just weird for the sake of it when it isn't being a slog to get through. The worst thing any movie, but especially a Godzilla movie can be, is boring. And Godzilla Vs. Hedorah is fucking boring, Tomoyuki Tanaka was right to bar Banno from ever making a Godzilla flick ever again. Hedorah wankers honestly remind me of the fags who say Halloween 3 was the best one. There's a reason people remember Michael Myers and not Conal Cochran. There's a reason people remember King Ghidorah. Or Mechagodzilla. Or Destroyah. Hell, even Gigan. Nobody but contrarians who thinks their retarded opinions are rocking the boat give a shit about Hedorah.
>>223077619Hedorah isn't boring, it's one of the few Godzilla films to actually show dead civilians.
>>223075556Orga was cool in Godzilla 2000 but what do you represent it as. The ship? The clone? The mouth? It's hard to recapture the magic without feeling like you're just retracing the steps.
>>223065314>BWEEEE>BWEEEE
>>223077649Orga's problem is it's just a big dumb turtle-thing. Also the aliens want to make a Godzilla clone for very spurious reasons.
>>223077697Eh, they kinda sold it when the military were unloading missiles and stuff on Godzilla and he just walked it off. If I was gonna clone something, Godzilla would be a pretty good choice. Or was there more to it? It's been a long time since 2000...
>>223077776The key flaw in the plan is that Godzilla just kills the clone anyway in the process of absorbing Godzilla.So the movie becomes a shaggy dog story, because nothing the aliens do amounted to anything at all. Zero threat.
>>223064953https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOF8cfYwp_kKing Geedorah take me to your leader-ah
>>223077860If only he were alive to see this.
>>223065667It's the cycle of Godzilla. Grounded story in the first movie, then batshit monster UFC in the sequel.
>>223078132I mean once you've used the first movie to confirm that Godzilla is immune to SCIENCE! weaponry, you have to have either other Monsters from Earth or Alien Monsters.Nobody for even half a second thinks that Japan's wooden WW2 fighter planes are gonna stop the Zilla.
>>223077441Let's wait til Godzilla makes his way to the coast of India first.
>>223077619there's not a rancid enough troonjak on planet earth to reply to this post with
This guy's style of "let's do Godzilla one again with the people and the people drama" works fine when you're actually doing the original Godzilla.That sort of style sucks for the monster vs monster movies. All the films that do this in any Godzilla era, where they try to give weight to the people running around doing people things, they fail to make the people interesting and the people only serve to suck up time and pad out what should be more VFX shots of the monsters fighting.You can disagree but you're wrong. Pretentious people drama only works in solo movies.
>>223078355Godzilla movies have always required human plots, and when the human plots suck then the movie really sucks.Like take Ebirah for example. Everything about the Red Bamboo and Mothra's people is fucking nonsense. But it exists to give the human characters something to do when Godzilla isn't on screen. It's required unless you want to remove humans completely.
>>223077535Ah yes let me look at Godzilla '14 again on this beautiful bluray release>all the night scenes are just black screenscool
>>223075579Yeah should've been Godzilla Zero. It lines up with Japanese weird naming for their sequels/prequels too. But of course they came up with weirder names like Minus Zero.
>>223078411Japanese are just autistic when it comes to naming things.
>>223078387The difference is threadbare plots about alien invaders and people running around underwater labs, threadbare action plots that suck but are at least threadbare, and the self serious attempts at doing real drama. The latter sinks every monster battle movie they try it in.
>>223078441Return of Mechagodzilla disagrees.
>>223075714oh fuck crab battle
>>223065667Godzilla hasn't fought another kaiju since Final Wars. It's time.
>>223078355Without human b-plots filling time in a vs movie, we wouldn't have kino like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsl41r2luPc
>>223078886My favorite is Gigan's manga artist protagonist and his "homework monster" or when he draws his bitch girlfriend as a kaiju.
>>223075433Goji is a boomer franchise with a firmly established roster. It's difficult to make a new Kaiju that people can accept and not go"why didn't they just use one of the old ones instead?".Personally I wish Hedorah was used more but he and his movie are such a timecapsule it's probably difficult to bring to the modern era.
>>223074548>convoluted conspiracy plotI enjoy this. Mercenary sniper guy is more memorable than most Godzilla characters.>the psychic chick as a whole (which the Gamera Heisei movies did infinitely better)I didn't mind this, though it is a bit out of left field. Having that element was worth it for the scene where all the psychic kids hold up pictures of their dreams and it's all drawings of Goji. My gripe with vs. Biollante is the spiritual stuff with the dead daughter. Would have preferred Biollante to be just a mutant monster and the main threat of the film.
>>223074548Doesn't Biollante teleport via spores?
>>223064953Bollywood movies have better CGI than this
>>223064953Why is it so colorless and grey?
>>223079106That's only because they have access to the same jeet CGI artists as Hollywood does.
>>223064953The trailer claims there won't be part three. That's plausible considering Yamazaki wants to work on Hollywood. Of course he could leave the bases for a new Godzilla universe before leaving
>>223064953Minus 1 was an ugly live action anime with the worst acting ever captured on video. Why are people excited for more of it
>>223065319based anoni like biollante
>>223079173Because it was the best Godzilla content in years
>>223079173Yep. This sequel will be a test run whether the west actually cared about Jap Godzilla or was the previous one just a fluke because it was released post covid when Hollywood didn't have much to offer.
>>223079239>when Hollywood didn't have much to offerAnd now it has such great movies to offer like...? Yes I know I'm being a snob in a Godzilla thread but at least Godzilla movies can be entertaining.
>>223065464That looks like three cow heads
>>223078355wrong
>>223079106Thats not true, Pooja
>>223079173>filtered pleb
What I want from the Godzilla franchise after this is a return to 70's schlock. I want Earth vs a Space Empire and Godzilla vs Gigan or something.
>>223071378Jason vs Godzilla when?
>>223079454Maybe Minus Zero will have Xillians being weird because it's a Ghidorah movie
>>223072502>>223072462
>>223079508Minus Three but it's a serious movie about alien imperialism. "This Island Earth", but with Godzilla telling the aliens to fuck off at the end.
>>223079544I would watch it
>>223064953>it's another Japan movie with a 10000 yen budget beats the quality of hollywood 3847398274287982371939821738921 dollars filmim excited
>>223079498Jason X vs Godzilla
well, if most people dislike Ghidorah (i don't), then who should it be and why? i understand Ghidorah is supposedly final boss tier, but wouldn't he also be like joker to batman? like his archnemesis but not necessarily the final boss
>ape vs gojira>ape loses horrendously and gets bitchslapped>now they ask ghidorah to returnim thrilled to see that three headed hairless biped reptile get btfo
>>223066967i dont get it...
>>223065252ghidorah is eternal.
>>223079722>hairless bipedIt's also a featherless biped.
>>223079746man, hold bees
>>223068769>drops him on the electrical tower so the tower smashes him in the balls while electrocuting himDevilish.
>>223064953ITS GONNA BE CINEMA GHIDORAH VS ZILLA IN NEW YORK WITH LIVE ACTION SAKUGA SCNES AND SHIRO SAIGUS SOUNDTRACK LETS FUCKING GO BRO
kino
>>223065252It was always going to be him. He's Yamazaki's favourite because Ghidorah blew up his hometown in a moviehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfwghMNQxYo
>>223069073Is the arm whip a penis??
>>223069073Its been 20 years since Ive seen Final Wars. I dont even remember Hedorah being in that.
>>223079173Keep seething Annofag
>>223077697Orga is cool, die in a fire, faggot.
>>223079971no u2000 was an abortion of a film.
>>223077645>bro showing dead people means my movie is matureYou are a child.>>223078285Cope. Fucking SpaceGodzilla has more clout than your walking turd with pussy eyes.
>>223064953The explosive fires are more emotional than other war movies. WTF is the hands over the map thing. Nagasawa is a great actress but too modern for this. I love the FOAM on Gojira when he is surfacing.
>>223064962It means there is yet another twist.
>>223079882The Japanese always love what hurts them the most
>>223079695anguirus you fag
>>223066967>We Were taken for a ride.
>>223079737The logo at first looked like it was a woman praying, everybody tought the female lead from Minus One would turn into another monster or they were goin to do the ''2 godzillas'' plot, but it turned out the logo was flipped.
>>223080068I'm guessing she's going to have some kind of a link to Godzilla, and is able to predict his movements on some level. It looked like she might have been zeroing in on his location. They're doing a Miki thing with her.
>>223071360You'd think you have it so hard? assholes?
Holy shit guys I've got it! The perfect "first enemy" for Godzilla to fight would be another Godzilla, like the exact same species! We could have one bad one and one good one that humanity has to learn to respect and team up with
>>223075600that would requiere flat out regenerating certain shots and facial expressions with AI or clever masking because like the MCU, a lot of that shit is intertwined.
>>223064953anguirusbros...
>>223079173Yamazaki's stock in trade is accessible nostalgia. Anno can't even tell a coherent story.
godzilla will always job to kong. simple as
>>223065252Ghidorah is the Frieza of Godzilla. Who the fuck would it be if not him?
>>223066412I remember Biolante being a pain in the ass in the SNES godzilla game.
>>223068106That's a big turd
>>223070134I don't care about american shit
>>223079737It's a dragon with a beard
>>223077697Orga was always more like a frog than a turtle to me
>>223079982Godzilla 2000 is the greatest film of all time. Fuck you, fuck your mother, fuck the boat your ancestors arrived on, fuck the dog that walks behind them, fuck the stupid troglodyte that founded your whole bloodline. Fuck you. Fuck them all.
>>223079982The american cut? Sure, other way it's kino
>>223064953I hope Gidorah's design is good. The director made this abomination a few years ago>>223065536
I always took zero as the nips trying to take back the godzilla IP by proving they can make a better movie than the mess that is the godzilla monsterverse of the west
>>223075621why wont this fucking guy work on orc stain
>>223065667Kino Ghidora is a metaphor for the kinoest kino, hence the three heads.
>>223064953We go a shinden in the first movie and now a Taitei. We can't stop winning planebros!I other news, Godzilla has never ever beat King Ghidorah in fair 1v1 so there might be more surprises there.
>>223064953>Ghidorah Confirmed
>>223072462>50% government meetings, 50% Godzilla
>>223083670Better human to godzilla ratio than most movies
No Gamera no watch I'm afraid
>>223065667数独君
>>223075433its like saying "ugh godzilla again? when are we getting new leading kaijus?"
>>223083676nope. shin sucks my cock and ass. complete waste of a movie. godzilla was just in the background while the entire movie was an almost comical parody/criticism of inefficient japanese bureaucracy. we fucking get it, the joke doesnt need to run the ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE FLICK.i hate every single one of the shin movies and i fucking hate anno for his abysmal usage of the IPs. he even just reused the staff and actors for every fucking production too. his death threats are VERY much earned and deserved.
>>223070686based on the trailer it looks like the infected gf is going to be one of the first psychics that can feel the monsters and try and telepathically communicate with them. I've been waiting for them to bring that plot line back
>>223083017>Orc Stainnever ever, it seems. just have to make do with the first volume and Stokoe's art book
>>223084888i was thinking she would lead to mothra. either by finding her through her mind, or turning into her (if this happens then suicide boy must be eaten by godzilla and have his soul "pacify" him and then their love as monsters is explained)
>>223084962that would be reasonable to assume, especially if this does end up being a trilogy. I hope it does.