Just finished season one of Voyager Why is neelix hated exactly? Does he grow worse in later seasons? Cause season one he's not that bad he's not great he's pretty neutral
Also what's the big deal with him dating kes? Yeah she's like 2 for her species but they age differently. Like you're watching a science fiction show that takes place in the future use your imagination. I wonder if these people get confused about dog years too
>>223151796at one point it gets real bad, but is taken care of quickly and to total satisfaction
>>223151839that's because Kes was female and cuteif both were fags, currentday weirdos would applaud it as stunning and brave
>>223151796>watching anything after DS9Why?
>>223151917Kes had one of the sexiest voices of the women in that show
>>223151943It's called giving something chance
>>223151917100%
>>223151796is that mickey rourke?
>>223151943you wouldn't get it
>>223151796The 90s were ending. People were becoming bitter. Neelix was a harbinger of what was coming.
>>223152143No
>>223151796He's definitely much much worse in S1 than he is as the show goes onIf you like Neelix in S1, you'll shed a tear by S7
>>223151954Fun fact, she went on to voice L in MIB the animated series.
>>223151796they didn't want to have a funny cook in a serious deep space show. similar to how people react allergic when their favorite franchise is doing something differently
He’s like Voyager’s jar jar binks. Objectively not that bad but his mere existence pisses people off. If you’re a neelix hater at least there are some good episodes where he suffers
>has the possibility of jumping ahead 40k light years>Won't do it cause "muh federation principles"What a joke fuck this lady. I would have mutinied in a heartbeat beat also what's with all this exploring and wasting resources and even risking the crews lives? just focus on getting home
>>223151839Her naivety makes her act like a child. Plus she goes through puberty in Season 2 so the entire time she was dating Neelix before then she was technically was a child. On top of that she even mentions that her puberty happened unusually early.
>>223152456So she WAS very mature for her age?
>>223152259>his mere existence pisses (trans) people off.
>>223151796personally, just not a fan of that character design.
>>223151796He isn't bad on your first watch through. But once you start understanding the plots of any episode he is in at a higher level, he becomes the biggest piece of shit annoying faggot pedo in media.
>>223151796Retard faggots hate him because they're retard faggots. That's all I can gather.Neelix is cool; Janeway is a cunt who should've sacrificed herself to save the space elves in the 2-part opener; Chakotay is boring dieversity; Tuvok should've been the captain.
that episode in one of the later seasons when he wanted to an hero was moving as fuck desu
>>223157438Mortal Coil, good 'sode
>>223156927You realize that a lot died of other causes (disease, starvation, exhaustion, mass executions) including outside the camps too right?
>>223151796This is a pro-Neelix board
I'm on season 6, the show has been really good, some of the episodes that stuck out - This season 5 episode with Jason Alexander, it was great could've been a 3 hour movie- Chakotay on the war planet- Any episode with species 8472- the doctor and Andy Dick episode- depressed Neelix episide
>>223159855oh yeah, those were awesomealso all 7of9 centric episodes in generalRyan doesn't just look good she also could act, unlike the Kes woman.the show objectively got better when she showed up, almost like the horniness made the writers step up from their old game of writing dogshit
>>223152365>what's with all this exploringwhich is literally how she found the fucking 40k LY jump, Ensign Brainlet?But we call her Insaneway for a reason.
>>223151796He's pretty unlikable when he's with Kes on account of what a jealous dickhead he tends to be. I liked him quite a bit by the end of the show, particularly in that episode with the Voyager impersonators.
>>223151796He was hated because he kept pointing out that Paris was predatory, sexpest scum (he was) and that Kes was gaslighting him about it (like all women do).
>>223155471YWNBAW
>>223151954Watch the episode Warlord
>>223161409>jealous dickheadHis woman was a whore and kept gaslighting him about it. She kept hanging out with Paris who freely admitted he wanted to fuck all her holes. KneeLicks had every right and every reason to be angry and shove Paris into an airlock and blast his lecherous, rapey ass into space.
>they immediately dropped the overarching plotline of the show to become another episodic snoozefestwas he right?
The Thaw might be my favorite Trek ep ever. It's one of the only episodes that truly reminds me of TOS.
>>223159608Also most of the camps opened years before the six year conflict began. So it's really more like a 12 year period in which exterminating half a mil per year can be done relatively easily. Dachau opened in 1933 while Auschwitz was a complex of 40 camps. More like a town than a facility.
>>223151796>Cause season one he's not that badIf we're strictly talking about season one Neelix, he got Janeway into a direct and long-lasting conflict with a violent alien civilization that was completely avoidable if he hadn't lied. His relationship with Kes was somewhat portrayed as obsessive and highly jealous which mixes kind of weird with the knowledge that she's very young (Ocampa lifespans notwithstanding) and naive. >>223151796>Does he grow worse in later seasons?His character becomes a little more saccharine and occasionally a comedic foil for Tuvok which some find annoying but I think it's exaggerated a bit.
>>223151839>but they age differently.There is the one episode where Kes goes baby crazy and its revealed that she hasn't gone through puberty yet, which means she's underaged even for the underage race.
>>223163376Her naivety was highly inconsistent.One moment she was wiser and more insightful than Tuvok who was over a hundred years old and a fucking Vulcan.The next she was a complete fucking moron.Kes was the biggesr bitch in the whole series.Neelix should have killed the lying whore.
>>223151839I'm more bothered by the canon that her ovaries are in her upper back but she still has a wide pelvis like a human female who would have them in her hips.
i just don't like the outfits he wears
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>>223163577Gets me every time
>>223158065Repentance was another good Neelix episode.
>conveniently stays behind on an asteroid in the Delta Quadrant, outside Federation jurisdictionhmm
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>>223151839I wouldn't date my dog, and a cat is not fine too.
>>223163629He was the only crew member who could have testified against Janeway without worrying about being court martialed and imprisoned himself.
>>223163622I always love how Tom is right by the end of episode
>>223163438Paris being a predatory sexpest again.I hated that character and kept hoping he would die of bowel perforations like the ones that killed the girl from Poltergeist.
>>223163622Paris being a dick as usual.Makes sense ended up with a total cunt.
>>223164705Even a broken clock is right twice a day.He was scripted to be a Kirk replacement, but failed.
>>223163145Y no one use AI to gen lewd Rich Evans?
>>223151796isn't he a nonce
>>223164791I love you
>>223164758>Paris being a dick for recognizing reality as always.You will be remembered as a man for about 5 minute after you kys, and then you'll be forgotten on Earth as you burn in the pit.>>223163145No one on RLM has been right about anything for 7+ years.>>223161279
>>223156927>>223159608>8 Aw Shits ovens>1.1m in six years>23min per bodyDamn, the nazis really were supermen.
>>223164758>didn't watch the episode awardParis was 100% right in the end. The episode ends with Neelix walking away from the Benkaran disgusted, realizing how right Tom was.
>>223164866if you extrapolate that math out, though, what's the real number? like 700,000? i mean that's still a fucking genocide lol
>223164884>pretends to not understand basic mathYou're doing the thing again. No more (You)s for jewjeets.
>>223164968What math? You read "people died outside of the camps" and you interpret that as "everybody died inside of the camps", and then you get upset when your made up numbers are made up.
>>223159608that means its not a genocide. its an unfortunate consequence of war. or do you think the germans should have somehow ignored all of the enemies of germany living in europe during the war?
>>223164884but some large percent was just gypsies
>223165043>holobunga defender>accuses others of making up numbers
>>223164812Yes but also no but really yes.
>>223151796>does he grow worseif anything he gets much worse then much better and then they leave him on a floating asteroid
>>223165228>enemies of germany living in europeWhites?
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>>223165664germans are germany's worst enemy
>>223165664actually the people that stated in a newspaper they were starting a religious unified war on germany
>>223164845What's it like being a stupid fat tranny?Do your balls ever get stuck in your ass?
>>223164873>Tom is scripted to be a faggot.>Neelix walks away disgusted.kek
They should have left him after is underage love interest died .He also served no purpose after they left is the system he knew.He add nothing to the plot and could have been swap with someone else but chakotay is somehow worse the him.The actor demand he real life were borderline insane and they had to rewrite multiple plot line to meet is demand.He also force the romance plot with 7of9.
>>223165788As shitty as Neelix' character was Ethan Phillips was one of the better actors on the show.
I'd give her a 6 of 9 iykwim
>>223159608stop questioning the napkin math, you're not allowed to do that
>>223165872Bold of you to assume these people use napkins.
>>223164968NGL, Sarah Silverman was hot as fuck in this episode. It's a shame she walled out so hard
>>223151796it was neckbeard nerds being neckbeard nerdslike how they complained that Enterprise and post-SG1 Stargate shows like SGU had sexier shit in thembasically they didn't know how good we had it and as a result now we've had to deal with over 10 fucking years of anti-male ugliness in our sci-fi instead of proper pandering to our interests, all because faggots couldn't shut the fuck up
>>223165949I use sandpaper and bleach.
>>223163085UHUTHDSV
>>223152365She looks like an old lunch lady.
>>223167769What do you look like?
>>223167806A god.Kneel, roastie.
>>223167643You're presenting two extremes as if there are no other options. I don't want Kurtzman's ugly women AND I don't want Berman's sexy women in catsuits. I want the middle path, I want sexy women in professional uniforms, and they only start stripping in my imagination.
he gets better actually. people rightfully classify him as annoying, but thats the point. he is alien to the crew and the federation, but not hostile. a representation of the delta quadrant almost. i wept like a faggot in his farewell episode and Tuvok busting a move for him.
>>223163577Webm of the century.In all seriousness though, Neelix rules man.Neelix + Tuvok 4 eva
>>223151943> Watching Deep Slop 9.
>>223161399It's Genocide Janeway.
>>223151796He actually becomes better once Kes leaves and he stops being the new guy. You see, on that role he had too much screen time because he was used for both, exposition about star fleet/ voyager and exposition about the delta quadrant. He had no particularly necessary skills and was insufferably obsessive and jealous over his wife, which admittedly was understandable because she was gorgeous. Once Kes leaves and Seven and Naomi Wildman are introduced his narrative role changes. Seven becomes the newest member of the ship but she is far more enjoyable to watch all around. She is as stunning as Kes but far more complex and interesting as she has that whole Borg becoming more human conflict going on that also generates a great dynamic with Katherine. In fact, in a way Seven also pretty much takes Tom place as the rebel on the ship. It would be no exaggeration to say the show becomes mostly about her. Even her relation with Naomi is more interesting than the one Naomi has with Neelix albeit that one is still necessary and good for Neelix character as it often allows him to share life knowledge and speak about his past. Pair that with his interactions with Tuvok and he becomes actually likeable.
>>223168011Kes was a lying, gaslighting bitch who kissed, fondled, and flirted with every male, then pretended she was clueless one moment and supernaturally wise and insightful the next. I fucking hated that character.
>>223167643>like how they complained that Enterprise and post-SG1 Stargate shows like SGU had sexier shit in themNone of that happened though
