>it's 1999, you've been watching the first 50 episodes of dbz on repeat for the last 2 years>one day you are in blockbuster and this is somehow on the shelf, you're giddy with excitement and rent it to watch at home straight away>plug it into the vcr and click play>no rock the dragon>jeice is now an aussie>goku and vegeta both sound retarded>the amped music clwqs changed to a bunch of weird clown shitHow did you react?
>watching British dub of DBZ>they call it Dragon Ball Zed
>>223157021This shit was the most epic fucking thing ever as a kid but now it's complete nonsense. It goes from some weird baby show about a monkey kid hunting magic balls to make a wish and then hard-left turns into a sci-fi superhero show out of fucking nowhere. It's like if Spongebob turned into Taxi Driver from one season to the next. How fucking bizarre.
>>223157021>'new' episodes of DBZ are half-way through Saiyan arc with Vegeta and Nappa about to arrive>'old' Spanish dubs are half-way through that same arc>mfw
>>223157021I loved it. I had some of the vhses, i believe it was only thesei regret having the 3 trunks ones, wish i had any of the others, i hate trunks
>>223157021The dub was always trash, but FINALLY getting to finish the story was magic. It was even better when the DVDs came out with the subbed versions on them. I refused to switch back to the English track after that. The original score was too good.
>>223157081Yea but it was kino cuz big muscle men go AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH and power up and shoot energy blast.
>$20 on a DBZ dvd>it’s non canonAnyone else?
>>223157782Not sure on the price because it was a birthday gift, but got a DVD with 4 episodes. The first one was canon, Popo showing the space ship to Bulma. The next 3 were the filler episodes out in space. Tried to google for the dvd cover, it was just of Vegeta sitting against a black background.
>>223157039Why do bongoloids say this, are they stupid?
>>223157021I remember getting a random DBZ movie for my birthday, which I didn't know existed, and they all had different voices.It was the one where he does backflips and lands on his neck on the ice, and they put that in the rock the dragon theme song.
>>223157021does AI allow for redubbing? train on the 50 episodes voices, then have it redub the voice after?
>>223157021Between religiously watching new episodes and the infinite reruns on Toonami, I probably watched 1k episodes overall. Somehow I've not seen a single second of Saiyan Saga and only the final frog portion of the whole Ginyu Squad fight. Have never seen my boy Vegeta get to wreck Jeice, the singular time Toriyama let him do anything.
>>223157701>i hate trunksVegeta, go train some more and get offline.
>>223157701Trunks was the best character
My college rommate brought all his DBZ tapes to college and I watched it first with those. I think they were the origibal English dub.
I really need to go through all the tapes I got from my old comic shop that I got for pennies on the dollar when he cleared out his basement in like 2011.
I forget which one I left off on.Are they still on Namek?
>not getting the Japanese bootlegs from the local nerd store. Dragons Den in Yonkers cross county.
what about the one where goku knows he's going to die soon so he impregnates chichi with goten in a bathtub?
>>223157021I once had a dream where Vegeta told me to never, ever smoke crack.
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>>223157021>plug it into the vcr
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>>223157081guess how I can tell you've never watched Dragonball or Z
>>223157701thats fair he only did like one thing cool at the beginning and that kinda carrys him in people's mind but he's kind of annoying and doesnt do anything else cool for the rest of the time he's there>>223157923I think that would be theortically possible yeah, you would just have to have some sort of voice/background music remover thats probably also ai done on it first so you can get clean voice audio as well as putting it back over the clean music and sfx. This only really changes the voices though, the script itself and music would be the same so it would still feel a bit different from the original 50
>>223158209these are rad anon
>>223158256wonder if its still at all open
>>223157081The last season of DB was mostly budokai tenkaichi stuff so they eased you into what it was going to become.
>>223157021>Aussie OPGOOD EVENING CHEEZOIDS!!
>>223157021I would never be such a pathetic fucking normie. I was trading fansubs from SVHS masters and laserdiscs before you ever stumbled on Toonami.
>>223158841>>223158922SOVL. It will never get better than this, lads.
>>223157021Watching dubbed anime ever
>>223162975Pathetic
>>223157081It is EXACTLY the same all the way throughEven Freiza coming back as a robot had been done before by Tao
>>223162908>being proud of being a boomer nerd faggotchill unc
>>223163004What do zoomers actually do all day growing up without friends?
>>223163023tiktok fortnite dances + getting groomed into being trannies on discord
>>223157021The Funimation dub was actually kino though.Namek, Ginyu and Frieza arc was the peak of Z desu and when Trunks shows up at the end. Android, Cell and Buu were never as good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2PXXKMBm8k
>>223163307English dub replaced the absolute 10/10 original instrumental music with electronic shit.It's a crime against humanity. Only communists and liberals can enjoy it.
>>223163386Depends what you grew up with. I love the Faulconer OST.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcY2_ST1mZ8
>>223163394>Depends what you grew up withHoly shit, what a cope.
I prefer the rinky dink chink dub with extra goku penis
>>223163450>look at these totally different anime for an example of what you should like!!ok
In the US, this is how DBZ was localized>1989: Harmony Gold (most notoriously known for the Macross to Robotech adaptation) attempts the series with a cut of Dragon Ball movies 1 and 3 and the first five episodes, but this ultimately goes nowhere>1994: FUNimation gets the license through Gen Fukunaga's uncle Nagafumi Hori, a producer at Toei; they produce a pilot version of Curse of the Blood Rubies (which never goes into wide distribution) which uses the Harmony Gold character names (e.g., "Zero" for Goku)>1996: DBZ was originally dubbed by a Canadian cast in 1996, and the first 67 episodes were abridged to 53 episodes. Brian Drummond, Scott McNeil, Ian James Corlett.>1998: After two seasons in syndication, Saban (FUNimation's distributor) exists the syndication business, and so FUNimation produces an in-house version of Dragon Ball movie 2 ("Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle") with local Texas voices; around the same time, Cartoon Network picks up those first two seasons to air as repeats>1999: A third season broadcast of Dragon Ball Z begins on Cartoon Network, which then runs to completion in 2003, using yet another replacement score and local Texas voice actors. Chris Sabat, Sean Schemmel, Sonny Strait.>2001: FUNimation returns to the original Dragon Ball series, redubbing the first 13 episodes and moving on to the entire rest of the series>2003: FUNimation picks up Dragon Ball GT with an awful dub ( “The light breaks the dark, this form is my instrument, I have no limits” )>2005: "Ultimate Uncut" restored and redubbed the first 67 episodes with the Texas cast. Chris Sabat re-dubbed Vegeta throughout the entire Namek Saga>2010: FUNimation picks up Dragon Ball Z Kai to start over after the constant edits and re-dubs of the original dubs. Chris Ayres's Freeza debuts here
DBZ Dub Fun Facts>Chris Sabat went to universities, theater departments and local theaters to put ads up for DBZ auditions>Sean Schemmel's wife told him to voice Goku. Sean Schemmel initially wanted to voice Captain Ginyu >DBZ Episode 68 is the first time Sean Schemmel voiced Goku in 1999>Bruce Faulconer himself scored very little of the actual compositions ultimately credited to his studio, which was instead largely handled by Mike Smith, Scott Morgan, and Julius Dobos>Eric Vale was a pizza delivery guy before voicing Trunks >Mr. Satan (Chris Rager) and Majin Buu (Josh Martin) were actually best buds from doing acting and improv together long before they got cast in the show>Justin Cook was actually in his late teen years, when he first voiced Super Buu>Chris Sabat says they were paid $20,000 per year in the beginning >Chris Sabat got a lot of hate from purists such as Steve Simmons, he got into Dragon Ball Z in the early '90s, started compiling an online episode guide, was one of the original Funimation haters online, complaining about them changing the music, censoring, releasing dub only DVDs, fucking the names up and cutting episodes, and then starting with the Captain Ginyu Saga DVDs he was the guy translating and writing the subtitles for Funimation, his subtitles are still used for the DBZ, Super and DAIMA blu-rays too>Sound design and audio mixing were way better on the original DVD/VHS singles; everything Orange Bricks onward has botched audio mixing and missing sound effects (Android 19 robot voice, Super Buu voice, etc.)>DBZ Majin Buu Saga finished dub in 2003 >Dragon Ball was dubbed in 2001 >Dragon Ball GT was dubbed in 2003>Chris Sabat directed the Budokai 3 dub in 2004https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDYqY6mS1KU>Chris Sabat re-dubbed Episode 01 to 67 in the "Ultimate Uncut Edition" from 2005>Chris Sabat redubbed over himself with a mix of 1999 recordings alongside 2007 recordingshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkCnE_dhxqI
>Chris Sabat's first DB role was Yamcha in Dragon Ball: Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle in 1998>Chris Sabat says there weren't as many people buying the Level Set to support the massive amount of people that had to work on restoring it frame by frame>Chris Sabat directed the DBZ Kai Dub from 2010 to 2012. J. Michael Tatum wrote the script>Bulma was recast simply because Chris Sabat didn't like her. >Chris Ayers replaced Linda Young because Linda Young was pushing 60 at the time>Meredith McCoy was unavailable when they started Kai. It was always going to be a temporary change>Alexis Tipton took over as Kid Trunks as Laura Bailey only really does union stuff in LA now and not much anime>Funimation's translator had suggested Beers, but they wanted something that was easier to google, so they went with Beerus>Jason Douglas (Beerus) was working on Borderlands 2 at his studio in the Dallas area when Chris Sabat asked to cast him as Beerus>Jared Hedges and Alex Muniz wrote the "All hail Vegeta, prince of no one" line>Toei wouldn't tell Sean Schemmel anything about Goku Black other than "He's just evil Goku" to avoid leaks >James Marsters, who played Piccolo in the Dragon Ball Evolution movie, offered to voice a character in Dragon Ball Super completely for free in order to "redeem" himself. Marsters couldn't be paid as he was from the union and DBS was a non-union production, so in order to have a role in DBS, he had to use the pseudonym "David Gray" and take no salary>Chris Sabat sometimes does whatever he wants with lines which is why Hit talks about donuts in Super>Having Drummond as Copy Vegeta was actually Sabat's idea>Sean Schemmel always wanted Goku to go through a bonk on the head of magic to removing Goku's natural niceness and become evil again and Vegeta is the one that has to teach him to be good again>Kid Goku voice actor (Stephanie Nadolny) is currently in jail for DWI and Theft
>>223163386what's the issue with music, anyway? i know music licensing is a complex web, but with anime it's usually music MADE for the series, right? they keep all the same library/original sound effects, so what gives?Sonic X sounds like there was some 2000s Microsoft software that would automatically generate 'epic music' for your TV show.
>>223163930>Sonic X sounds like there was some 2000s Microsoft software that would automatically generate 'epic music' for your TV show.It was cheaper to make their own in-house soundtrack than to pay the soundtrack royalties
>>223164181crazy stuff.Pokémon had a great localization early on (deal w/ it nerds) but the Japanese version had more renditions of the game music, i think? there's some still in there, so i don't know if/why it ended up half-way.as a kid these tunes were burned into my brain, so it was just cool hearing how they'd be be rendered as orchestral music. same as waiting for half these monsters to show up in a cartoon and see what the hell they actually were.
>>223163394>>223163930The OST used in the English version made the battle scenes NEUTERED in comparison to the original. Not to mention the studio managed to sync certain scenes to particular passages, like a music video.>so what givesMy part of Europe got a dub of questionable quality with the original OST, while you got a shit sandwich.
>>223157081That's because it's for kids you fucking retard faggot kill yourself
>>223157081>filtered by DBZlmao, a king of midlets
>>223157021Don't forget when you could buy pic related in the shops with all of the GT characters while the show itself had only just started the Babidi saga
>>223164387>>2231641814Kids would change the music is because they were heavily editing their shows to comply with broadcast standards for kids shows and it was easier to just make new music rather than trying to re-time all of the music. Alternatively, companies like Saban and Funimation did it with Dragon Ball Z because they thought it would make the series more appealing to AmericansDragon Ball Kai was localized specifically to give you the true experience without the changes
>grandma Goku>terrible jap marching band music>"BOING" sound efxs>windchimes>slide whistlesJap DBZ is garbage
>>223164837>terrible jap marching band musicYou got owned in the last thread you retarded mutt
>>223164696i'm going to earnestly say some shit you'll call ''''Reddit'''':being for kids doesn't mean it has to be stupid. good storytelling can be good storytelling.posting the obvious example but you have plenty of classic Hollywood films, or even cartoons (yes Watership Down is for kids, of course it is.)the problem is Japanese writers have this very weird slapdash approach to stories sometimes, where they'll say some asspull is actually sugoi, then a team of weeaboos will defend it as some cultural difference. if Murder She Wrote was Japanese and it suddenly had ghosts or aliens, that'd be fine, it's Japanese.
Peter Kelamis > Ian Corlett > Kirby Morrow > Steve Blum > Sean Schemmel >>>>>>>>>>>> nagasaki hiroshima
Redpill me on Faulconer
>>223164867you can't possibly think Jap circus music is good....
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>>223164920The meme about 60 IQ amerimutts is real
>>223164937lollin.like Peter Cushing with his proto-Warhammer, i wonder how many esteemed actors actually just gave into cartoons and shit as 'easy watching'.didn't Bin Laden have a bunch of shounen anime on his hard drive?
>>223165002"boing boing" is not good music.
>>223164937It was just a bunch of toys killing each other.
>>223157021>didn't watch on toonamiif you're a broke boi just say so
>>223158209>ranma 1/2too bad there's only like 30 good episodes before it's 98% filler slop
>>223165118>didn't Bin Laden have a bunch of shounen anime on his hard drive?he had a bunch of cartoons for the kids in the compoundhis entire hard drive contents are still on like fbi dot gov somewhere you can download, it was only like 40-80gb of stuff.
>>223164806https://youtu.be/L96o77rmRF4?is=0-scP29d9mh6yXaS>see opening animation>holy fucking shit this is going to be the ultimate dbz experience lets goooo>actual gameplay>......
>>223164917A hack hired to ruin the English version of DBZ for at least 1 generation.>let's replace a 10/10 battle OST with a generic ambient shit
>>223165522This. He didn't even use any kazoos in his soundtrack. Literal 0/10 garbage.
>>223158841>>223158256>get subbed Japanese OVA in a bootleg VHS>Goku has an screeching annoying voice>the story is shit>new characters that have 0 impact on the main storylineDBZ OVAs were truly shit.
>>223166292Even a 8bit gameboy OST mogs what the dirty hack Faulconer has donehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-qaqzpbVM&list=PL04qUiNqaN1qw3KpMuQ2Ta8h_SwB7q2xg&index=4
It was jarring for a few episodes. There were even 1-2 episodes where Vegeta's new voice actor.... the guy who still does it now... he was trying to impersonate the older Vegeta voice actor and it was really bad. The new voices kind of settles into their roles but I'll always prefer the older voice dubs of dbz. They just had more heart and emotion.
>>223158841w-what did Miami Mike do to him at DragonCon, bros?
>>223166404Sounds like Peter Griffin having a fart battle with the other fat guy in the public restroom.
>>223165355He had a shit ton of games too
>>223165430why is Pan holding Bee as a puppy? she wasn't even hatched yet
>>223157021>jeice is now an aussieAussie Jeice was fucking kino though, it made the English-language version of the character memorable instead of being just another generic minion of Freeza.
>tfw you get forgotten
>>223166483kek
>>223157081>. It goes from some weird baby show about a monkey kid hunting magic ballsog dragonball is kino. sorry you cant appreciate soul
>>223157039All dub is bad.Dubbism is for retarded in general.Cha-Lahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQmTdijhjD4
>>223157021>>223166966Imagine having to endure rock-the-dragon which is just repeated wording and clips poorly edited togetherwhen you could experience cha-la head cha-la
My 90s weeb cousin would bring home bootleg subtitled tapes of the show and movies from conventions he would drive to with his nerd friends. Little kid me didn't know how good he had it.
>>223166966>>223166986The fuck does "head cha-la" even mean? I grew up with rock the dragon and still think it's kino. I like the original OP as well, but it's very jappy and I can see why they made an americanized intro for people who weren't used to goofy jap shit yet.
>>223157081>It's like if Spongebob turned into Taxi Driver from one season to the nextI kekd unreasonably hard to this, thanks for the mental imagery
>>223166966Nothing wrong with the Funimation dub, and I prefer the original
>>223166986>>223167024>>223166966>>223157021I always thought it said Fuck the Dragon and I couldn't understand how they got away with it. But it sounded rebellious and something Vegeta would say, so it was cool.
>>223157021>>it's 1999, you've been watching the first 50 episodes of dbz on repeat for the last 2 yearsWhy the fuck did it take cartoon network so goddamned long to get the rest of the episodes? I remember watching reruns forever after the Frieza saga ended, then finally got to watch the Cell saga, then literally aged out of it and never watched the rest by the time they picked up whatever came after that.
>>223167197they wanted that magic 65 number of episodes for syndication, contracts ended, they got a new group to dub and dubbing SHOULD be as easy as it sounds, but rarely is
>>223163930You dub the intro song. You dub the ending song. Why would the song in the middle be any different?You may not know shit Japanese and appreciate the original song without understanding it, NOWBut this is for kids and when you were a kid you wouldn't appreciate the original songYou want something in your language
>>223167825tbf the English intro songs are almost always better, and it's not just a language/nostalgia thing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDezQD57gay girly bullshit even for a girly shounen show.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERpK-7K70wsFUCK YEAH, CARDCAPTORS!
>baby's first anime: the threadFucking pathetic.
>>223167024>The fuck does "head cha-la" even mean?It means "don't worry"
>>223168108I am sorry anon but you are wrong the original JP opening song is groovyhttps://youtu.be/YHnSjNMvmfghttps://youtu.be/0_aBRuIp6bgyou have poor taste and are possibly from the dark continent given your preference for that shitty English song
>>223167171>I always thought it said Fuck the DragonSame and I was always nervous that my parents would realise what the lyrics were saying.
>>223165118There's a lovely additional detail: director John Landis, who knew Chris Lee, recalled:“He and Peter Cushing loved Looney Tunes cartoons”Landis said that when Warner Bros. cartoons began appearing on home video, he would send Lee collections of them. He also remembered that Cushing and Lee shared a love of Laurel and Hardy.Lee apparently had quite a repertoire of impressions. One interviewer recalled Lee spontaneously doing Foghorn Leghorn, while other accounts mention his Sylvester impression.Most poignantly, Lee said that near the end of Cushing's life he brought some of their favourite cartoons to Cushing's home. Despite Cushing's illness, the cartoons still made him collapse with laughter in the old familiar way.So I would revise my earlier answer considerably: Peter Cushing wasn't merely “animation-adjacent.” He was demonstrably a cartoon fan, and Looney Tunes in particular was a significant shared enthusiasm between him and Christopher Lee. It seems to have been one of the things around which their extraordinary friendship formed.And there's an especially wonderful contrast in imagining Dracula and Van Helsing sitting in a cinema helplessly laughing at Sylvester and Tweety.https://www.hammer-graveyard.org.uk/peter-cushing-many-talents/
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>>223168310>Cushing was an unusually visual person. He drew from childhood, regarded drawing as one of the few school subjects at which he excelled, painted watercolours, made cartoons and caricatures, designed costumes, constructed elaborate miniature theatres, and hand-painted thousands of model soldiers. As a child he and his brother also staged puppet shows, which is particularly suggestive of his interest in bringing drawn or constructed characters to life.>More revealingly, Cushing explicitly said that he had “always loved illustrations” and named Kate Greenaway, Beatrix Potter, Cecil Aldin and H. M. Brock among artists he admired. He said drawings meant as much to him as written words, and he was fascinated by mechanically operated pop-up and movable books—describing their paper engineering as “sheer magic and enchantment.” He was also influenced by Sidney Paget's Sherlock Holmes illustrations when constructing his own Holmes performances.
beep beep best intro coming throughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu2anfKAm6M
>>223157081>out of nowhere Confirmed for not reading ANY of the King Piccolo content along with the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai where it becomes full blown super hero nonsense. The escalation of power had already been set literally right before ZPeople who repeat this are just larper tourists who don't even engage with Dragon Ball
>>223168430Why did the movies have such good soundtracks? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH_N-kx9CtM
>>223168430>>223168459https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24uIs1sTLhQ
>collected the manga as a kid>one day i found db books with colored pages>it was all just screenshots from the movies
40 year old menchildren thread
>>223168261kek
>>223168801SAAR
>>223168430Dragonball Z: Rammstein Edition
>>223157021The Falconer soundtrack was the driving force of the shows popularity and without people in North America wouldn't care as much about dbz
>>223168801This bait doesnt even work since dragon ball is the most normie friendly show on earth and appealed to a massive amount of retards.
>>223167197Toonami got it's start as a strictly rerun block and airing new material was unheard of.They tested the waters of getting new stuff when they bought the rights to the Teletoon funded DIC dub of the last 17 episodes of Sailor Moon R via a sponsorship deal with General Mills. Sailor Moon did very well for the network, to the point they acquired the rights to DBZ, which led to inquires to buy to TV rights to the new direct to video produced episodes of the rest of the Freeza saga. Which did gang busters.
>>223168340i can i can handle itdon't stop don't stop we're in luck now
>>223167197As for why they did them in batches? Toonami wanted to avoid massive gaps in airings, so they bought all of the Cell Saga at once and also paid for a redub of of Dragon Ball, which led to both alternating to give time for Funimation to dub new episodes
>>223158765i had a dream where Android 19 was hellbent on killing me
>>223168197i am light-skinned and from Yurop.but i did grow up rushing home from school to watch this gay girls' cartoon even thought they toned the (actual) gayness down.watched the whole JP series, loved it. but Americans know how to write a good cartoon theme song (see also Pokémon and Sonic X).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ufVQIUEiYcthis Mega Man cartoon sucks balls but goddamn what an intro.
>>223169044oh it was a reference. i've got this unopened on dvd, and i've always heard "super fighting robot fighting to save the world" as his smash 4 live event thing
daimas thing is its SD super deformedbut what if theres a remake where krillin is taller than everybody
>>223168261My parents didn't like Buu Saga because Dabura was a demon. Good thing they never watched OG Dragonball.
>>223166350Are you talking about the movies? The only OVA DBZ had was the plan to erradicate the saiyans.
>>223169362>that demon should be a good christian boy >:(what were parents thinking?
>>223168459I WATCHED A CHAAAAAAANGE IN YOU
>>223169439I dunno man. I had watched all kinds of horror and rated R movies at that point, but maybe they didn't realize. It was mostly my mom though. My dad thought cartoons were gay kek.
>>223169362>>223169439This happened to me a lot as well. As an adult looking back, I really have to question why they had a problem with demons being the bad guys. Isn't that kinda the point?
>>223164869It wasn’t an asspull you dumb fuck. Dragon Ball became gradually more about just fights.
>>223169362My boomer parents in 2001 got mental glitches because of DBZ >you can't watch that kids cartoon because it's for adults
>>223169879My whole family was really caught up in the christian zeitgeist at the time, they were even subscribed to these newsletters, idk where they came from. Christian Parenting Inc. or some shit. But anyway. It said that Pokemon and DBZ were le bad, and so did our pastor, so my grandma, aunts and uncles banned Pokemon and DBZ. Luckily my parents were the least retarded of my extended family, so I was able to argue to be able to watch them, but my cousins weren't so lucky. I was only allowed to watch DBZ at my own home, and only when my cousins weren't over. If they were over, we had to do something else. I can't describe how fucking faggoty it was.
>>223157081Dragon Ball got a lot more popular when they gave up on the adventure arcs and did the martial arts tournament arcs instead. Toriyama tried to go back to the adventure stuff with the Red Ribbon Army after the first tournament but readership started dropping off again so he pivoted and did Muscle Tower. And then the rest of the series is just tournaments in various guises.
>>223170155There's a long stretch in DBZ where there are no tournaments. All the way from the start of the series to the Cell Games. Instead it's more screaming while powering up in contrived ways.
>>223157021blockbuster never had the series only the movies and they had them way before the series aired on syndicated television. You're just a larping mellinial faggot who never even heard of anime before it hit cable tv.
>>223157039>Playing american version of guilty gear X>Narrator calls it "guilty gear ZECKS"
>>223170231>Erm, you akshually don't have anime street cred unless you flew to japan to attend comiket in 1985 and bought a kamen rider yaoi doujinCool story unc, no one cares.
>tfw you import a nip game in '99 without any clue about regions>tfw it takes almost 2 months to arrive>tfw have to order a fucking mod chip and jailbreak your own ps1 just to play a nip DBZ gamezoomers have no idea what the struggle was like
>>223170388And then that game kinda sucked. But I was biased cuz I played Budokai first.
>>223170388>didn't just own a chipped ps1 so you could buy dirt cheap pirate copies of all the games you wanted to play Oh, you silly firstoids.
>>223170205Yes but it's still entirely one on one fighting and the typical arc of kick ass>job to new character>train>kick new character's ass
>>223170231You are confusing shit larperThe first couple of DBZ movies were dubbed at the same time as season two and even got cut into multi part episodes to pad out the episode count because the original syndication run ended right before the Freeza/Nail and Captain Ginyu fight, which would have required a lot of censoring and cuts that Funimation needed more time to deal with.
>>223170388better than pic related being your first dbz game
>>223170770Never played this one, so I can't speak to it, but the Legacy of Goku series was ultra kino.
>>223170886It's worth playing just for the uniqueness. But it's one of those games that has a lot of hidden mechanics, doesn't explain shit, and the computer outright cheats. Reminds me a lot of pic related, which was my first Yugioh vidya. I'm cursed.
>>223170032>religionAs if boomers here gave a flying damn about religion (except kicking you out of the house to the church on Sunday morning).It was Violent Games And Cartoons Demoralize Poor Innocent Kids and John Doe Killed His Parents After Playing Quake For 5 Minutes.
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>>223170388>Playing Final Bout and seeing SSJ4 Goku before we even got Buu saga on TVKino
>>223170886Legacy of Goku was great.
>>223171710I just finished watching but saga for the first time this summer. I'd been waiting more than 20 years to see how DBZ ended
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPF8lihiENAonly guy that came close to the original
>>223171747Well, 2 was. LoG 1 was beyond dogshit.
>>223168310>Lee apparently had quite a repertoire of impressions. One interviewer recalled Lee spontaneously doing Foghorn Leghorn, while other accounts mention his Sylvester impression.I can't quite imagine Lee sounding like that.
>>223168310>>223165118I think the smallest I go are Gundam and 1:18 figuree and most of those are pre painted. I still have yet to really painylt a full model kit. I once painted a mech I got on sale with some old gold spraypaint my dad had and it came off awful.
Nothing will ever EVER be as kino as being a 12 year old watching goku turn super saiyan for the first timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNmE0xQgfI
>>223167149>>223165355I hear Bin Laden liked the Funimation dub.
>>223171998he was a man of culture then
>>223171998Stop spreading lies with your dirty whore mouthDrummond was GOAT
>>223160203Let me get this straight You are a childless boomer arguing with an anon about whether he ever watched a cartoon on an anime imageboard that has been dead for 10 years on a Sunday afternoon
>>223157081Your problem was watching Dragon Ball in the first place.
It's time for Toyo to start writing the manga again already
>>223157782Dragon Ball Z movies and the filler episodes are canon in GT the real Dragon Ball Z sequel you noob
>>223158183> college rommateDumb American
>>223158183Probably not. The original dub was the Ocean dub which has long since fallen into relative obscurity.
>>223164806lmao>get home from school >log in to AOL >search for "DBZ games" >read up on some shit >come across this early internet was really a mindfuck when you think about it. nobody in america knew there was a DBGT unless you found this game. finding out about SSJ4 gogeta and pan later on was fucking bananas
>>223157021>Ocean > FuniI will die on this hill
>>223163307Funimation's dub sucks cock actually, its incredibly innacurate just making shit up in terms of dialogue, and acting wise its a huge step down from ocean which actually used experienced actors and not people off the street in dallas to record in a broom closet with no acting experience whatsoever
>>223157021sounds like revisionist stuff by someone not around thendbz basically started in the namek saga on toonami ans eventually aired like the first 20 or so original db episodesit was the buu saga you had to deliberately go out and buy 3-episode vhs tapes for
>>223172609just popping in the thread to say Super can suck a butt, literally irredeemable trash
>>223173058UK started with Raditz, mate.I remember watching the first couple episodes on Cartoon Network back to back on launch day.They advertised the shit out of it like it was a sporting event.
original localization was betterkai and super localization are garbage
>>223173093oh 3rd world countries, i dont know what they do in countries that still get around by horseback
>>223163759>Chris Sabat redubbed over himself with a mix of 1999 recordings alongside 2007 recordingsSabat's old Vegeta voice is really fucking bad. You can tell he was trying to sound like Brian Drummond and failing miserably. I'm glad he eventually he established his own voice which is arguably better and more fitting. Drummond is perfect for Saiyan Saga Vegeta when he's a wormy little shit, but he sounds completely out of place by the Cell Saga.>>223163786>Bulma was recast simply because Chris Sabat didn't like her.This is a positive change, nu-Bulma is much less grating.>James Marsters, who played Piccolo in the Dragon Ball Evolution movie, offered to voice a character in Dragon Ball Super completely for free in order to "redeem" himself. Marsters couldn't be paid as he was from the union and DBS was a non-union production, so in order to have a role in DBS, he had to use the pseudonym "David Gray" and take no salary>Having Drummond as Copy Vegeta was actually Sabat's ideaOverwhelmingly based.
OP is a larping faggot. These vhs tapes weren't available until 2000 and definitely not available for rental at Blockbuster. Funi dub premiered in 1999 and was on the air for months.
>>223172775Yeah. Forgot about that. Shoulda said the older pre-Funi dub. The one with Scott McNeil as Piccalo.
>>223157081sounds like you're a big fan of dick
blows my mind theres people who dont like buu sagaits far and away the best of all of DB
>>223163386>appol colorud montsaa>popcorn showaI only know the kino jap themes.
>>223171987What about that time I was 10 and my friend gave me a picture of naked bulma he printed?
>>223173058>dbz basically started in the namek saga on toonamiNot here. It started with gohan, raditz, and hard stopped at "next time on dragon ball z" where Goku fights Jeice and Burter.
>>223173082Super might suck, but that doesn't stop GT from sucking also
Drummond > Sabathttps://youtu.be/QX0bwFN-K9w?is=2ap30FK9H3Pc9xEd
>>223164806you could get this shit before z even started being dubbed anon
>>223164917he stole the credit for other people's work, in any case it was inferior to the ocean dub's heavy moody atmostpheric score
>>223166416>There were even 1-2 episodes where Vegeta's new voice actor.... the guy who still does it now... he was trying to impersonate the older Vegeta voice actor and it was really bad.It was not just for 1-2 episodes anon, he didn't start trying to do his own thing until the buu saga. He went back and redubbed some of his early shitty impression in the frieza sagas which is what you hear in newer releases but he left it the same in the cell sagas for some reason
>>223157081Thats really not accurate at all youre trying way too hard to sound obtuse. The end fights of Dragonball, goku vs piccolo specifically, is the exact same intensity that Raditz opens on dbz
>>223170205Right there is no tournament but they still have all the weaker characters fight one on one, explain why were waiting ffor stronger guys, then the final fights are the stronger guys. Which is the same way the tournaments work out.
>>223168459There was a guy who used to work at funimation in the 90s who was the original narrator and voice of captain ginyu who had connections to the music industry from doing radio forever and he was able to cut cheap licensing deals for funimation. They didn't want to cheap out and not pay them though and the guy ended up leaving and with it all those deals he made because of his connections dried up and the subsequently stopped using any licensed music or tried using cheap as shit local bands
>>223173543i like msi so like 2 of these are good
>>223172996its true
>put on vhs of pokemon or dbz >this trailer starts playing at the beginning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZuJZ7R3mw
>>223173163Can you sue Capsule Corp like you would sue Acme?
>>223173165>Release Says - April 26, 1999 – Captain Ginyu: Assault (054-056 US)You know you could just have looked this up yourself, right?
>>223172996happiest day of my life is there is a continuation of ocean dub with placeholder music (from megaman or something?) and it does go all the way to the buu saga with that same snake sounding vegeta. I cant fucking remember what its called but if u search for it youll find it.
>>223173022shes a slut she was asking for it
>>223157843It's how the letter is pronounced
>>223157021>jeice is now an aussiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkIdYcephug
>>223157081Dragonball was basically Journey to the West, then Dragonball Z started out like it was Superman 2
>>223176593That's when it was dubbed you tard. The vhs was released in Oct 2000.
>>223177757that was the dvd
>>223163930Multiple reasons. The content edits a show like Dragon Ball went through meant the music often times wouldn't match anymore. There's also the marketing angle. Dragon Ball was over 10 years by the time it gained widespread distribution in the U.S. Even if its music wasn't foreign in sound (which it very much did compared to the rest of the TV landscape in the west at the time), it was old.Then there's the money. Musicians can get paid royalties for foreign releases. The guy behind Dragon Ball's is one of the country's most successful composers and was regularly topping their highest grossing lists. The flip side is true, too. If you make a dub OST and intro/outro, you can sell it on soundtrack CDs without splitting that money with Japan. In fact, you can then license out your dub OST to other countries who create dubs of the show based on your version. Making music for French dubs of anime and selling records/licensing it out is how Haim Saban made his first fortune.
>>223166824He's probably referring to the accent clash compared to his original English voice. Scott McNeil, who is Australian himself, originally played Jeice with a British accent. When they got booted for cheaper actors, Jeice suddenly became Australian.Which is to say, the new cast cared so little for continuity they didn't replicate that. Either that or Sabat was actually incapable of copying McNeil's British accent to any decent level.
>>223177724>That power yell Jeice does when he's introduced in the Ocean DubAmazing. It's funny because he's voiced by Scott McNeil, and he was actually born in Australia.https://youtu.be/Ooq1cApIe0s?t=42
>>223173973biggest mistake
>>223157021Do you understand how crazy we were for new DBZ back then?I made a friend in Japan in 2000-2002, I forget the exact time period, through online connections and early internet era for DBGT.I was paying for four episodes recorded to video, hardsubbed in Japan, long before available in the US.I'd get a VHS for forty bucks, delivered from Japan, once a month.He would even clip most of the commercials, but sometimes you'd get the little Be Right Back and a commercial or two.25-30 MB DBZ downloads from KaZaa to fill out the series. On dial up.We used to have to TRY to find shit.
>>223167197Because they had no more episodes in English. As another anon stated, Toonami's initial lineup consisted of shows that had already aired elsewhere. In Dragon Ball Z's case, it premiered in syndication in 1996.If you don't know what syndication is, it's basically TV shows sold on a per station basis in each regional market rather than a national broadcaster. In NYC, a show might be sold to the local ABC station. In Los Angeles, the same series might run on Fox. In Miami, WB, etc. Networks (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, UPN, WB, etc.) only provided so much programming and only so many markets could support extensive in-house shows. To fill up the rest of the broadcast day, these stations would acquire shows in the syndication market. This method of distribution was largely on its deathbed for kids (and really, new scripted) content in general by the time DBZ debuted. Local stations were already struggling to compete with cable channels for children and things like Dragon Ball Z were often aired in inconvenient early morning hours. By the early '00s, the only shows being syndicated were either reruns, gameshows (Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune, etc.) or court shows.DBZ proved to be a modest hit through this method (Dragon Ball had failed the year prior). A second 26-episode season debuted in late 1997 and the first three films were getting direct-to-video releases. Things kind of fell out from under them in 1998. The show's syndicator (the company selling it to the local stations) and co-producer (Saban) had been merged into Fox Kids Worldwide and got out of syndication to prioritize Fox Kids and the Fox Family Channel. I guess DBZ just got lost in the shuffle because it wasn't something they had a big stake in. This is when production effectively stops dead.
>>223167197>>223180458The existing episodes of the dub got picked up by Toonami in 1998. They rerun the show constantly and eventually demand more as its popularity grew. Without Saban fronting part of the bill, the underlying rights holder (Funimation) decided against hiring the original dub's production crew to save money. It also didn't help that they were based in Texas and the original dub was done in Vancouver, so overseeing production was demanding. They decided to move production in-house with randos off the street. This obviously took time. The first of these new episodes eventually get released on VHS in mid-'99 before airing on Toonami in the fall. Further reruns would happen because Cartoon Network would burn through episodes (five days a week) faster than they'd acquire them from Funimation, who also obviously could only produce so much.>>223173165It was released on VHS before the Cartoon Network broadcast:https://www.kanzenshuu.com/1999/04/15/captain-ginyu-vhs-available-for-pre-order/https://www.kanzenshuu.com/1999/09/07/new-date-for-third-season-debut-on-cartoon-network/CN were definitely involved in making "season 3" happen, though: https://www.kanzenshuu.com/1999/02/06/agent-mai-funimation-tidbits/
>>223173973*They wanted to cheap out and not pay them though
>>223179781My theory is just that Sabat was retarded and didn't recognize was Ocean Jeice's accent actually was and thought it was australian
>>223157081Rurouni Kenshin is another famous example of this.The first 30-or-so episodes, it's like a show for six year olds, then a character named "Saito" shows up and suddenly the next 40 episodes are a bloodbath, with death matches and killing duels and whole villages getting slaughtered, babies getting taken hostage and almost killed, women being stabbed through from behind just to kill somebody standing in front of them. It's INSANE how much the tone shifted.Then the villain Saito and Kenshin were fighting finally gets killed and Saito just disappears and suddenly, the rest of the show is for six year olds again.
>>223169530Necromancy
>>223170284what? i've been everywhere in this country and never heard anyone say the letter X with a Z
>>223164806this game slaps so hard
>>223157021I didn't even notice the change in voice acting, I was just hyped to finally be seeing new content. Also, I got used to Fauloner's music quickly. Goku's Super Saiyan Transformation music is still awesome. Anyone who suggests otherwise is lying. https://youtu.be/GnSCgMTXC9s
>>223180486>It was released on VHS before the Cartoon Network broadcast:Can confirm. I used to buy the VHS tapes specifically for this reason. New content before it aired on tv.
>>223173543I'm still torn. They're both good at different points. Drummond crushes Sabat in scenes like that, as well as Vegeta's attack on Recoome, but Sabbat is much better during the Final Flash.
>>223163786>Kid Goku voice actor (Stephanie Nadolny) is currently in jail for DWI and TheftThe fuck.
>>223170436firstoids literally thought they'd go to jail if they bought a burned cd
>>223157701>i hate trunksweird thing to hear. everyone was obsessed with Trunks and thought he was the coolest and wanted to know everything about him.
>>223169416never knew about this. it's on youtube, looks wack
>>223179649>Even if its music wasn't foreign in sound (which it very much did compared to the rest of the TV landscape in the west at the time), it was old.Easily the most niggerjewish sentence posted itt.>it's not umba umba kill whitey rap>it's oldIn the end you clowns ended up with your very own "special" version of DBZ.And the rest of the world laughs at you and calls you morons, as usual.
>>223157081Yeah, a baby show where Oolong drugs and tries to rape Bulma while she’s out.
>>223157701That packaging was a very clever little comic book-y marketing trick. You HAD to collect them all in order to complete the image.
>>223170770to this day, the music from it lives rentfree in my head.
>>223170155I like the adventure arcs but the settings are totally bizarre and never really gel together well. DB starts out with an East Asian thing but there are dinosaurs and then there are Native American tribes and Russian villages?Fucking Namek in DBZ felt more like an actual world with different but similar communities that have similar cultures, peoples, and religious beliefs.
>>223157021English dub will never defile my ears.I watcher French dub with a single Polish guy re-reading all the lines as a kid, and then later the original JP version.
>>223183133The French version had a really decent VA and the original Kikuchi's music.Are you a veteran of the great Polish cultural war against the commie- catholic establishment in 2001?
