What did you think the Clone Wars was as a kid?
>>223174177some previous war with clones, didn't everyone think that?
>>223174177that a bunch of clones fought another army, not a big deal. lucas did a fine job with what he had, droids vs clones is fun and gave a lot of cool designs. you can thank filoni for trying to make clones dindu nothing and all that
Pretty much exactly what it ended up being
>>223174177I thought he said Cold War.
>>223174335A war where republic troops fights an evil army of clones being called the clone wars makes sense. A war where an army of soulless clones fights an army of soulless robots is retarded.
I at least thought the clones were the enemy, it's a weird to name a war after the allies
>>223174435No the clones had personalities and were treated like real people lol
>>223174495They were the enemy you retard, they betrayed the Republic and killed the Jedi and were the instrument of Palpatine's rise to ultimate power. They marched into the capital city of the Republic and killed people.
This shrimple five minute video is more kino than any of the movieshttps://youtu.be/T9j7kLG7VK8
A war against cloning due to the apparent lack of clones
Everybody in the galaxy vs their evil clones
You now remember Star Wars: Battlegrounds.and how kino it was
Pre prequels the canon EU very strongly suggested it the Emperor or other dark force useres ("sith" but we didnt have that name yet) cloning themselves to achieve a level of immortality and prevailing, thus causing the dark times
>>223174177I thought all the Jedi were cloned and had to fight each other
>>223174648So that's where Dark Empire came from. Makes sense
>>223174648The EU sucks so fuckin bad
the senate/leaders all got cloned and no one knew who was who and it was a massive clusterfuck
>>223174725ya, what we have now is better
>>223174521Got me tearing when he said “And he was a good friend…”
>>223174177I didn't know what a clone was because I was a kid. Every other post in this thread is pretentious.
>>223174177Using the phrase "Clone Wars" fucked up everything because you had to assume that the Emperor used clones to create his army, which we later learn he did, so the prequels had to be reversed engineered to incorporate that.This is why it would have been more interesting if the Empire was comprised mostly of humans who the Emperor was able to convince to join while you might have noticed that there were no alien officers in the OT Empire. There was also an indication that Luke was going to an "Academy" which was most likely post of the Empires training and recruitment program.Think about it. Some smooth talking Officer comes to your shitty planet, points out that it's infested with alien scum looking to rob or kill you on sight. Offers you the chance to get away and see the galaxy.Now the reality would be very different but that was the way the Emperor should have been able to persuade soo many humans to join. You kind of see this with Finn with his PTSD reaction from combat, but we know nothing of him, his background and why he was a stormtrooper in the first place?!?FACT!!!
>I hate clones, Jock! I hate em!
>>223174725I liked those books about Obi-Wan as a Padawan and the Jango comics and video game Shadows of Empire video game was cool too
>>223174821No one likes your liberal fanfiction
>>223174867JOCKJOCK START THE HYPERDRIVE
>>223174177I didn't think about it because I was a kid and this was just a throwaway line to give Obi Wan some sort of background as a general.
>>223174904>books about Obi-Wan as an apprenticeThe only one I knew about was Master & Apprentice. Didn't know there were others.
>>223174177I didn't put much attention to it, I thought it was just filler babble to keep the characters busy.
>>223174177a cold war with multiple clones of various notable people on both sides of the conflict ie you could have many ob1s on each side all doing espionage and sabotage and subversion, so you could never be sure who you're really dealing with
>>223174592shame we never got a follow-up beyond the clone wars expansion>>223174648>canon EUdidn't exist prior to clone wars
>>223174821>This is why it would have been more interesting if the Empire was comprised mostly of humans who the Emperor was able to convince to join while you might have noticed that there were no alien officers in the OT Empire.this is exactly the case ctmthe empire was mainly conscripts, with top ranks getting cloned to improve leadership in units
>>223174518Found the rebel-loving libtard, your holocron is filled with Wooked porn
>>223174177I imagined the jedi were more like hermit monks rather than so high profile and intwined with politics, but didn't think much about what the clone wars were
>>223174376haha
>>223175049Yeah I think it's a whole like 12 book series. Same guy did another one for Anakin and Obi-Wan between Eli's I & II
>>223175644It probably would've made more sense if that was the case, but I understand why he changed it
i want to travel back to 1987 and rape george lucas
why did he do it bros
>>223174177I thought it was basically exactly what we saw in Attack of the Clones except less silly.
>>223174177>>223174177An infinity war that destroyed the galaxy and that's why all the tec is rinky dink. Just endless clones fighting endless clones piloting self replicating 3d printed machines
>>223175644I never thought this, jedi ment less to me then KNIGHT. Knight implies status/ land / war / responsibility to a lord or some such. He didn't call them Jedi monks
I thought clones were what stormtroopers were really called..
>>223174499They were treated like slaves lol. It made the Republic look awful.
>>223175644>>223176405Obi-Wan said that the Jedi were the guardians of the Republic for 1,000 generations. They were never just monks. They were always a mix of knights/samurai and wizards.
>>223176953As a boy I thought they were robots. Could you have blamed me? We never ever see their faces.>but anon, Han and Luke wore their armorYeah I thought they hollowed out the robots.
>>223174177I literally never thought about it beyond the concept of Anakin and Obi-wan as Arthurian knights in space, as far as I was concerned the "clone wars" were fought between Jedi Knights and pirates of the caribbean or Robin Hood's merry men or asian martial artists led by Jean-Claude van Damme or nigger gangbangers from chicago, or war of the worlds martians, or just plain fucking dragons, I truly did not care, it was just background noise that made me think "wow Luke's dad must have been fucking cool"
I knew NOTHING about Star Wars until I saw it. I got everything wrong. I thought:>clone wars were clones fighting other clones and Obi Wan was “OB #:1” and that he was a GOOD clone….figured cloning was just a thing>Darth Vader was an alien/machine/clone whatever>figured he was lying to Luke about being his dad and that Luke was stupid for believing it since Vader was an alien>thought storm troopers were robots or some shit>darth vader had multiple clones and Luke killed him for real in DagobahI did absolutely know Lando was going to betray them though…thought he was gonna do it again even.
>>223174177whatever I imagined it wasn't a fucking cartoon.
>>223174177I thought it was a war fought over cloning. Not fought with clones, but because of them or something.
>>223177273>“OB #:1”Everyone thought that for a while because Vader pronounces is just that way very clearly at least once. In fact, that was a major theory among adults and kids alike.>>thought storm troopers were robots or some shitSame. Why wouldn't anyone?
>>223177268Correct answer.
>>223174177Those of us who really were kids when Star Wars came out didn’t care what the clone wars were. We were right not to care. And we still are.
>>223177296strangely enough I thought the same thing, like there was some ethical thing about medical experimentation or economic factors over mass-produced clone scab laborers replacing normal people and aliens or some shit like that, for some reason it never entered my head that the clones were actually PART of the army on either side even though it's a natural conclusion in retrospect
>>223174177I thought he said colon and I thought it was short for colonial
>>223174495Napoleonic Wars
>>223177296I still don’t know why they called her “Princess” Leia. Is it because she’s Padme’s daughter? Isn’t that supposed to be a secret? How did Leia remember her mom?Padme was a Queen turned senator??? WTF?? Why didn’t Liam Neeson just kill the flying guy that owned Anakin? He could move shit…why not just gamble until you have the money? Then kill the flying dude. He was a slave owner. Obi Wan killed that guy at the bar for being a dick…he actually killed a lot of people in the prequels that he didn’t have to kill. That thing darth vader does when Han shoots him and he just absorbs the blasts and then pulls the gun out of his hand using the force…why isn’t that more common?
>>223177482She was a princess of Aldoran. The republic was made up of subjugated kingdoms with representatives in the senate.Prequals never happened.Vader had magic armor.
>>223174867>Clones....I hate these guys.
I thought the pod racing was cool, that jango fett was cool, and idk I think episode 3 just made me sad about padme dying
>>223177296Lucas ripped off Dune so he probably had some combination in mind of facedancers being a threat infiltrating organizations and a war being declared on harmful technology.
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>>223177842Gooberfish...why'd it have to be Gooberfish...
>>223177655>Lucas ripped off DuneBecause of the sand planet?
>>223174435Clones were a new creation. It makes sense the first war would be named after them
>>22317789516 different points of similarity were claimed by Herbert but he never pursued anything. Spice, moisture farming, seeing apparitions in the elements when near death, giant worm leader in fortress, princess hot for her brother's dick, spiked mouth in sand swallowing things up, big mobile factories riding over the sand, etc.
>>223177959Wars were a new creation at one point. Do you think after someone invented them they had the War Wars?
>>223178018Yeah except for the moisture farming, those are insane nitpicks. Herbert didn't own fuggen sand. Btw, I live near the exact spot that inspired Herbert. It's ironic since most the area is unlike it. So I can say that I live in Tatooine and Giede Prime.
>>223178119It's an insane nitpick that a giant worm lord lives in a fortress in the desert? I don't even give a shit because Herbert ripped off The Sabres of Paradise, but give the man his due.
>>223178154>giant worm lord lives in a fortress in the desert?Anon, where in the fuck in Star Wars is that?Oh and DUNC sucks, while Lynch's Dune is the best version.
>>223178213?
>>223178250You think the sandworms and Jabba are similar? Do you also think that Friday the 13th is the same as A Nightmare of Elm Street because they both feature undead killers? Come on, man.
>>223178289Not sure if troll or retarded but it's too late for this shit
That he clones were good frens.
>>223178355You're both. Glad I could solve that for you.
>>22317417730 years of solid wars between men, that had happened 70 years before, and had the feeling that ben kenobi and others lived for much longer, like 150+ years.it felt a lot more ancient and epic.the cop out of "it was 2 weeks ago and lasted for about 3 hours and all the jedi died in an afternoon like dum dums spoiled it when the new films came.
>>223178472You can always ignore them. When I watch the originals, that's all there is.Btw you explained that perfectly. Too bad you're not on Disney's team.
>>223174177>What did you think the Clone Wars was as a kid?A throw away line to establish Obi-Wan's credentials. Nothing more, nothing less.
>>223175311there were no aliens in the rebellion apart from it's a trap crab in the third film, and maybe one other who had a hamburger head.it was a humans vs humans war and aliens were in the outskirts only with little interest.empire had alien bounty hunters
>>223177014i did too. wondered how luke managed to fit inside the armour.
>>223178827And when I found out that they were human, I was disappointed for a time, but I got over it.
>>223178119tunisia?
>>223178910No, but it starts with a "T" and it's in the United States. We even have a park dedicated to Herbert here.
>>223174177Nothing. I never heard of the Clone Wars until 10 year old me saw Episode II in theatres. Maybe I heard it when I saw Episode IV as a little kid before then, but I didn't retain the dialogue.
Clones as the enemy. Catastrophic enough the Republic was fractured leading to the Empire. Jedi weren't state funded diplomat cops but genuine wandering monks who would recruit the very rare force sensitives they came across. Luke's father was not a Jedi but a pilot who was force sensitive and somehow Sheev mindbroke him and turned him into Vader. I like to think Vader was never one man but a continuation of different force sensitives that Sheev kept trying to mix with cybernetics to create the most perfect student, powerful with the force but would never betray thus solving the Rule of 2. Clones were created through some relic technology from a much older dead civ by antihuman aliens from the rim. Jedi weren't prepared for the war or Sheev creating the Empire and sending kill squads after every Jedi
>>223178646"but then again, who is?"think starwars should have added mystery and unusualness, rather than trying to answer all the questions. it was ideal for being bigger and older than you can imagine. seeing the jedi losing over three films of attrition could have made it interesting, with them being reduced from a sprawling empire of their own where everything was regal, like King Arthur's England, to the next film planets being overrun, some planets turning to the empire's side, empire dominating with tech and regiment, the old ways being slowly crushed. then by the third film it's a sort of last stand where only a few dozen jei are left, reduced then scattered, and after those years of weary battle, you see obi wan worn down to the beginnings of tattered hermit you see in the later films, while the emperor looks out across corusent being built
>>223178937tennis sea?I went to the place where luke/uncle owen/aunt beru's home was filmed when I was a teenager. they were real old style Tunisian dwellings under ground level in wide circular pits with the houses carved into the rock sides.
>>223179057You can use AI to bring that to life. I know, I know, but maybe with lots of time and care it can have somewhat of a soul. Now, when I watch the originals, I use my own head-canon for it that is pretty much how you say. I'd say Darth is at least 90 years old, then Obi-Wan being at least 120, not more for me because that's too close to Chewbacca's 200 years for my tastes.
>>223179113Not even close. Although you can easily find it out with a search engine. Gotta admit that it fills me with smugness sometimes.
>>223174435as other anon pointed out, order 66 made the clones work for the empire and seize control for it. Everyone else is arguing semantics.
>>223178037The first one would have just been called "the war".
>>223179116glad you had the same feelings as me when watching it. it just came through and stuck with me.it seemed they were slow aging like elves, and maybe the force also slowed them down a bit more.yoda being 900 was old but it fit. the droids didn't seem super old, it seemed instead that leia knew of him half through legend, doesn't she say he had once served her father in the message? leia never felt like she was darth's daughter, she seemed separate.ai might do it, but like you say, imagination works pretty well anyway
>>223174177I did not know what clone meant so I thought it was just some made-up word like Jedi.
>>223179137text ustincinatitalahasiI read about what inspired Herbert years ago so maybe it's in my brain somewhere.
>>223179225>glad you had the same feelings as me when watching it. it just came through and stuck with me.>it seemed they were slow aging like elves, and maybe the force also slowed them down a bit more.It's comforting to know that one isn't alone in kino opinions, true. And with the aging, I think the "long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away" successfully told my brain then and now that regardless of everything, these people aren't humans and don't live exactly like us or as long. Not sure why more people can't see that.>doesn't she say he had once served her father in the message?She says something like >years ago you served my father in the wars(and I'm sticking my imagination for now)>leia never felt like she was darth's daughterThat's because she wasn't until Lucas got writer's block in 1981.
>>223179242hehe same. pre-90s it wasn't a reality and scientific weirdness wasn't so much in the public conscious.it was a much more innocent time, wish I could go back, and it was a good friend.i think a big part was people couldn't just look everything up, and they didn't feel compelled to either. some might check in an encyclopedia and that was it, a paragraph on a few hundred/thousand items if you were really curious.now it feels like everyone's head's full of junk
>>223179252Nein, nyet, non.
>>223178154>>223178250I always saw Jabba as a slug or snail. Plus, he's just another alien in a universe full of aliens. It's totally different from the sandworms.
>>223174177Two sides making billions of clones fighting each other.
>>223174725agreed, thank g*d disney saved us!
>>223179301he father meant her real father, the guy on the planet she was on. I imagined him to be still alive he had a brown beard, was a fairly dull character. even saw in my mind what alderan was like. maybe a bit like the ceremony hall in return of the jedi, open spacious and lots of white plain but elegant buildings. people wearing flowing clothes like leia. quite refined.same for me that it was clear they weren't like us, just happens to look like us.darth was old too like you said, made more sense.the wars being a long time ago had to have been the case since no one else rally remembered anything during or before it, apart from general tarkin who was maybe as old as darth or a bit older.he calls him his friend, and means it.wouldn't make sense the prequels way where only 17 years pass, and darth is 35 and tarkin is 70
>>223179325takomatampateeattle
the sequels were a mistake
>>223174177A war that smelled really good.
>>223179444>he father meant her real father, the guy on the planet she was onRight. >the wars being a long time ago had to have been the case since no one else rally remembered anything during or before it, apart from general tarkin who was maybe as old as darth or a bit older.>he calls him his friend, and means it.>wouldn't make sense the prequels way where only 17 years pass, and darth is 35 and tarkin is 70yeah, but Lucas just had to shoehorn things in such a way that "wow they know each other and he knows them and.." on and on.Like come on, Lucas, Obi-Wan met Chewbacca in the Cantina, that's it. End of story for them, but nooooo. He just had to make a sprawling galaxy into a single neighborhood.
>>223176540based gendy
>>223174177I thought the Clone Wars was like a ton of people getting cloned and fighting their clones over a long period of time. And not in a Jedi vs Evil People kind of way, but more in the general public kind of way. Kinda in an espionage manner where people didn’t know if they were the real person or the clone and the practice of cloning got out of control. Eventually ending with cloning being outlawed and banned.Dunno why I thought that, either from pure childhood imagination or I read/saw something involving clones and transplanted that idea at age 9.
Two wars back to back that were very similar to each other. Like the Twin Cities.
>>223179502he likely had storytelling reasons for it, to draw in the new characters while having the known ones as support struts, but it would have been better either having them with separate storylines that don't intersect in the prequels, just develop, or by sprinkling them in the background as incidental characters as you might see in Indiana Jones type fantasy.he wanted the droids to remain the narrator's that tie it together like the first three films, but felt a bit forced, pardon the pun.tattooine being the focus seemed odd since it was a shithole backwater planet, the whole point of obi wan hiding out there and why darth would never have looked there.would make more sense if beru and owen had moved out there decades before - or they just hadn't been really related to luke and just adopted him.
>>223179600I think he just got so old he got lazy, God bless him anyway. He even admitted that some of his best stuff was created when he was in a bad mood. This happens again and again. Look at Metallica. They suck now because they got rich and old.
>>223179671ever seen any of the films he made since the prequels?i heard they mostly just showed at little arts festivals. seems a shame, would have been cool to see him make more different things.
>>223179718Nope, notta one. Red Tails? Uh, no thanks, I'll watch Memphis Belle to scratch a WWII bomber itch. Those arty films? I bet they're kino, but sadly I'm not a rich close friend of his so I'm not invited. Not even mad, it's his prerogative.
>>223179507Gendy's Grievous hit so differently. I was so hyped to see him in Ep. III right after Clone Wars -- only to be completely underwhelmed by how nerfed he was in live-action. Yes, I know he had his chest-cavity damaged by Windu, but it was still a stark contrast between seeing him dueling a legion of Jedi, using all limbs with deft precision, and watching him spam windmill attack ineffectively against one.
>>223174821>you had to assume that the Emperor used clones to create his armyWhy? No, you didn't. It doesn't imply who the clones were fighting. The stormtroopers in the original trilogy are obviously not clones either, having different personalities, heights and voices
>>223178037No because that doesn't describe the war. What do you think is a better name for the clone wars?
>>223179749I guess the complaints about the prequels dismayed him after the magic of the first films, with ewoks being the only thing people picked at with them.heard he'd done some creative consulting on a few things but not looked it up.
>>223174177When I was a kid the prequels had already started and te Clone Wars was out. I grew up with the EU books as well but it's a weird disconnect between what people thought Star Wars was and what Lucas thought it was.
>>223174177The clones were the enemy, and the Republic military and Jedi wiped them out after a hugely costly galactic war.
>>223179940yeah that fits.
>>223174435Being different in that regard is what made it interesting, if it was in better movies it would get a lot of praise.
I thought it was a war about clones, not a war fought by clones. Like one faction was pro clone and the other faction was morally opposed to cloning so they went to war with each other. It literally never even occurred to me that the clones would actually be involved in the fighting.
>>223179967Why can't you see that is still what the actual films are about? Remember that the clone army was created in secret, then the good guys begrudgingly use them. But I get the concept of the clones being outside of the fighting. That would have worked.
>>223180005>Why can't you see that is still what the actual films are about? I was asked what I thought the clone wars were when I first heard about them as a kid and answered accordingly.
>>223180093Yes and conversation evolved. No one is saying you're wrong, in fact, a lot of people assumed what you did including me.
>>223174177either some kind of nefarious aliens or group rival to the "Empire" as it were started fielding huge armies of Clones and it was just such a huge horrible war that even the Jedi knights didn't survive it.maybe even made me wonder it was why people like luke lived on such a shit hole planet like Tatooine. people wanted to escape the war, go anywhere far out to the outer rim to any even slightly survivable planet to get away from this shit.
>>223180119>conversation evolvedDid you see a quoted post in mine? I responded to OP. Just admit you jumped the gun on being a bit of a prick. It's really not a big deal. If it helps, I already forgive you in advance of any apology.
>>223180221What? Anon, get some help somehow. Talk to someone because I in no way was a prick to you.Thanks for forgiving my non-existent sin doughever.
>>223180221>Conversation Evolved
>>223180221>Did you see a quoted post in mine?And no since there wasn't one in yours.
>>223180257>I in no way was a prick to you>Why can't you see that is still what the actual films are about?I gave you literally no reason to jump to this smugly stated assumption.
I thought the Clone Wars was a cold war where people sent clones of high ranking officials and such to undermine eachother. I knew George was influenced by Kirby so I figured it was all some Skrull shit.
>>223180281...exactly my point, no quote is a response to OP. I'm not getting in the weeds with you anymore on this, anon. It was an off the cuff response to OP's question and you took a shot at my comprehension out of nowhere. I don't know if you switched to troll mode to save face after putting your foot in your mouth or if you're just so socially maladjusted you sincerely can't see where you fucked up, but it's not worth us ruining the thread over so let's just agree to leave it be, yeah? Take care.
>>223174177>What did you think the Clone Wars was as a kid?clowns shooting each other
>>223174177clones fighting clones
>>223180343lol dude you need to relax. >took a shot at my comprehensionWow you are so sensitive. Do you realize that?
>>223174177I thought the jedi were clones
>>223180343But I agree, no need to ruin the thread, that's you're currently trying to do. You fucking darvo piece of shit asshole. But anyway, I forgive YOU.Now, how long did the REAL clone wars last and exactly what happened?
>>223180434It made sense. Darth Vader even said Obi-Wan like "OB1" and I think others did too, but on that last point I'm not as sure.
>>223180468that and it would explain the whole Ben Kenobi Obi-wan thing. Ben was the OG who is dead and OB1 was one of his clones, but was going by Ben It's fucking weird that it's like uncle lars or owen or whatever, Luke and Ben and then obi-wan has a name that sounds like it has a number in it when r2 and 3po exist
>>223180564That settles it, Obi-Wan is a clone in my head-canon and it affects nothing but to make it cooler.
>>223180564like Dark V8er has the number eight in his name, proving he's a robut
>>223180427>Why can't you see that is still what the actual films are about?you are being obtuse
>>223179957It's not interesting though. It's the exact opposite of interesting. As has been brought up a zillion times, there are no stakes and no reason to care about anything going on in this war as depicted. Other much better media has already made points about when you start using drones/automatons for war and make it distant and impersonal it actually makes it even worse. Star Wars has nothing to say about that though and even if it did it would be out of place in the family blockbuster space opera adventure series.
>>223180634No, honestly that aspect is still in the existing films. I'm not saying it's just like what we assumed as kids, but some of it is there.Btw this is going to happen in real life sooner than anyone can guess, is my guess and I'm always right about this stuff.
I always thought it was something like the Star Trek eugenics wars where super soldiers or a race of "perfect" beings were made and rebelled against those who made them. but almost everything "explained" by the prequels that was mentioned in the OT could never live up to the decades of speculation and was always destined to be lame, I mean look what they did to Boba Fett.
>>223180813glad you said that. never liked the mauri fett crap with the kid, or that he was specially chosen to be cloned. why? boba fett was supposed to be a mystery.even worse when disney made him into even more of a joke.
>>223174177a throw away line
>>223180813>>223180833it's like how they made wolverine gay by explaining his backstory
I might see my father later and be able to ask him what he thought it was but t wouldn't surprise me if he's never seen it
>>223174177Thought the clones were an army of psychos, ran by some bad guy trying to take over the galaxyI didn't expect them to be the good guys
>>223180847>>223180813I really cannot think of a single prequel that actually improved the original plot. Maybe MGS3 until mgs4 retroactively made it more autistic.
>>223174376For me it was lock ass falls in attack position.
>>223180937prequals are inherently bad because you know how they have to end
>>223181007lmao
>>223180847there's a modern tendency to overexplain and show all the parts they think the viewer wanted to see, just because people had talked about them, when it's the mystery that makes the characters compelling.
>>223174177Since it was before any of the Sith nonsense and I was a deeply weird kid, I thought that the Emperor was a quasi-immortal Force wizard whom the Jedi and the Alliance had been warring with for a long time and that the fall of the Republic was centuries earlier. My idea was that the Emperor discovered that Force connection could be artificially induced in clones of preexistent Jedi, living or dead, and he’d created vast clone banks to mass-produce “Dark Jedi” indoctrinated into his service. The clones largely wiped the Jedi out, and unlike the prequels, the Jedi didn’t have some central temple and were more akin to wandering mystic knights/ronin. Oh, and Obi Wan’s a clone of an ancient Jedi Master named Oortin Braza, the first of many clones of him in fact, and that he had a tattoo somewhere on him - “OB-1.” Unbeknownst to all except the Emperor and Vader, “Obi Wan” was actually the reason that the clone trick stopped working. He’d been shot down in a battle over some planet and presumed dead, but was rescued and nursed back to health by the Kenobi, an obscure monastic order of pacifistic Force worshipers who devoted themselves to the more spiritual side of it. Through them and their teachings, Obi Wan learns to commune with the Force and contact Braza’s ghost, who in turn rallies the other Jedi ghosts who had been cloned and they work together to sever their clones’ connections. Obi Wan takes the surname Kenobi to honor the kindness and wisdom of his teachers.
>>223174177Nothing because in the dub of my country they call it "the black war" for some reason
>>223174177As a kid I didn't know what a clone was, I thought it was just another type of alien or something
>>223180707you are being obtuse again
>>223174177i remember people saying young Obi Wan was going to be fighting clones of himself in the prequels and i was like "woahhhhh"
>>223174648>("sith" but we didnt have that name yet)Yes they did. Allen Dean Foster refers to Vader as such in Splinter of the Minds Eye the literal first EU book published in 1978.
>>223174376Originally it was translated into war of the quotes, as the word for "clones" was literally never used until the dolly sheep.This survived the '97 edition (best edition) but was changed later with a bunch of other shit like emperor revealing that vader is the fader in the expositional exchange in empire strikes back
>>223181586It goes further back. A deleted scene in the board room has one of the generals say Sith.
>>223174648>>223181586>>223181724https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfPvjWcAtSAright off the bat:>this SITH LORDalso it's in the script he's the Dark Lord of the Sith. and this 1977 interview with Mark Hamill:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML1CqVf6A0k&t=287s>there's of course Darth Vader, the Dark Lord of the Sithof course the earlier scripts had all the Oogu Force versus Boogu Force and Starkiller shit, Luke clearly had a different dad in the first film (also mentioned in a deleted scene).and the guy's name is just Darth. but he's clearly of/from whatever 'the Sith' is.
>>223177273>>223177319Yeah, I always thought they were robots when I was a kid. I was really disappointed when I learned they weren't. It just makes them so much cooler.
>>223178289He's not talking about the sandworms, he's talking about the God Emperor.
>>223180564>>223180596Wouldn't that imply OB-1 (one) was the original?
>>223178018Herbert didnt invent any of those things
>>223182211I know some fan theories say OB1original body 1but maybe there was like an OA1 or an AB1
>>223177319>Vader pronounces is just that way very clearly at least once.weird how that's the James Earl Jones dub, too, if they were ever going to 'fix' it.Alec Guinness also clearly says>Obi-Waanthe same way you'd pronounce 'can'.to this day, i genuinely don't know if it's 'Princess Lee-ah' or 'Princess Lay-ah'. i'm guessing Peter Cushing placed the stress on the former because Leah is just a common British/English name (in a script also featuring a Luke).imagine the shitshow if Star Wars ever had a Graham or Craig, dialogue split between the US and UK cast.
>>223174177A legendary and grand scale war with prolonged and galactic-wide repercussions, generating historical galactic lore on par with WWII, (which was a planetary scale war that everyone is still referencing as a major pivot point in history unto this day, despite most of them not even being born before or during those events). Likewise a time when heroes and villains were made and alliances were pitted against alliances. Something that was ten thousand times cooler when it was left for me to imagine than it could ever live up to on screen.I was 110% right even though I was only six years old.So Lucas makes the prequels and it turns out it was just some gay little skirmishes on some random planets, and about fifty Jedi in some random arena nobody gives a shit about getting shot at by clones and robots or something. Meh.The Battle of fucking Yavin in 1977 was - and still is - one of the most engaging suspenseful battles I've seen in anything. No matter how many times I've watched it, and no matter that I know what is coming, I'm still on the edge of my seat every second of it. I've been blindsided multiple times by the sudden arrival of Han to save Luke just like it was the first time. It's just great filmmaking and drama, right down to the way it's cut.If you haven't watched it in a while, give it another watch and tell me I'm wrong - I double-dog fucking dare you. You're sucked into escalating stakes and suspense where the stakes keep building and building until literally fucking EVERYTHING is riding on Luke's shoulders, and one final shot. And I do mean everything. Not just the battle, but every single character, from Leia on the Yavin moon about to be destroyed by the Death Star, right down to R2-D2 who has just taken a possibly fatal hit. There is so much going on dramatically that you can fill a frame with all the yawn-inducing CGI shit you want and not even come close. Not even scratch the surface of the epicness of that scene.
"Luke, did I ever tell you that this robot you brought along has worked on your farm before, your father in fact built him and we'd been on several adventures together? Why, when your uncle went robot-shopping this morning and picked up both up a protocol droid and a blue astromech unit, those same droids had gotten us out of multiple scrapes. They were good friends. I'm sure your uncle mentioned all this when he became reacquainted with them under the same names again 20 years later, rather than acting like he was meeting them for the first time ever. It's not like HIS memory was erased."
>>223181539Reportedly this movie was responsible for the word entering the popular lexicon, but I still can't figure out how exactly considering I seem to be the only human being on this planet who has ever actaully seen it:https://youtu.be/-ar_Ch1Yi2k?t=37
>>223182468No, but you did tell me the Asoka story. I like that one. Can you tell me again?
>>223182929i read a lot of 1940s-70s science fiction as a teenager and 'clone' was already a cliché, i'm pretty sure. just one of those things like robots or cybernetics.it's weird how people point to shit like>zomg a PlayStation from 2005 game speculated>'in the future, the media will create misinformation to create in-fighting.'>they like PREDICTED OUR FUTURE! VIDYA GAEMS = ART!!!...they were saying that in random pulp novels in like 1955.
>>223178119Giede prime Jedi prime Jedi
>>223174177Something different from the gay shit it ended up being.
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>>223174648>("sith" but we didnt have that name yet)Darth Vader was described as a "Dark Lord of the Sith" in tons of promo material for the original film. It's something everyone knew but was never said onscreen, like the word "Ewok" in ROTJ
>>223183897Doesn't C3P0 say "Ewok"?
>>223183897They also had the Darth Vader impersonators who were doing tours around the country tell people about how he was defeated on Mustafar by Obi-Wan and that's why he has all the cybernetic prosthetics and his base on Mustafar. So the fandom knew about this before it was ever in anything that was published.
>>223174177Weird deformed clones fighting humans
>>223184235i remember not long after The Phantom Menace came out, some fansites had the 'theory' that Darth Sidious/The Emperor was secretly Senator Palpatine! because if you read some of the 90s novels, they refer to The Emperor as Emperor Palpatine.these were the nerds with so much lore knowledge and insider information, they'd cracked the case!
>>223174177first watched SW when i was 7 so a lot of the worldbuilding dialogue was lost on me
>>223174177By the time I watched star wars for the first time, Revenge of the Sith was starting to be teased so it was well known to me what the "clone wars" were and who fought in them from the toys I had been seeing on the shelves for the last couple years and in lego catalogs. Sorry if this is supposed to be a thread for oldfags.
doesn't Dark Forces mention Kyle Katarn served in the Clone Wars (back when he was a Storm Trooper), and so did this random Imperial General?i know Obi-Wan says>before the dark times, before the Empire.but that doesn't necessarily mean the Empire literally formed 20 years ago. i'd assume the Clone Wars was just another Star War. it could have lasted 100 years, 'the Empire' could have been 'The Empire of Evilus I and Evilus II (5,000 members and growing!').the impression i get from the first film is the Empire is still spreading, like they're setting up outposts on Tatooine, they've just destroyed the Senate. it's outright stated that even as the Galactic Empire, there are backwater/desolate planets they just don't give a shit about conquering.so basically yeah, some big war, the Empire existed then, they fought in it. fought well in The Clone Wars? probably got you promoted in the Jedi Knights/Republic/Empire.
>>223182398>weird how that's the James Earl Jones dub, too, if they were ever going to 'fix' it.I think we're right, he was a clone at the start, then Lucas changed his mind. Now, I know that it's far-fetched that Lucas made alterations to Star Wars, that's what happened. >>Obi-Waan>the same way you'd pronounce 'can'Oh yeah he does. I like it though.
>>223174821>There was also an indication that Luke was going to an "Academy" which was most likely post of the Empires training and recruitment program.That's what I always thought, but it's odd because Luke also tells Ben he hates the Empire, and that's before the stormtroopers cleanse the Lars Homestead.
>>223184903In the Biggs Cut, it's explained that it is the Imperial Academy and that they can be drafted. It's in the book too. Remember it is a CIVIL WAR.
>>223174335Clones vs clones would have made way more sense.
>>223184831not a Lucas idea, but one of the books also decided Owen Lars was Obi-Wan's brother.https://breeze.hostux.net/starwars/wiki/Owen_(Kenobi)retconned as a 'Force vision' or however they handle this type of thing.right from the start i find it strange as hell how Luke was adopted by this couple for 20 years. he's sad for a bit, then he never mentions them ever again.>i only wish...BEN were here :(the wizard you only properly knew for a few days? you don't seem chewed up your de facto parents were killed, implied tortured, you psychopathic freak.
>>223179507I love how casual the trooper is. Like they just saw a spider and he's some dad who is rolling up a newspaper to try and kill it.
>>223184780That can't be right because in Dark Forces, Kyle was in his mid twenties or so. Even back then he was only slightly older than Luke so he couldn't have served in the Clone Wars.
>>223184953>right from the start i find it strange as hell how Luke was adopted by this couple for 20 years. he's sad for a bit, then he never mentions them ever again.> >i only wish...BEN were here :(> the wizard you only properly knew for a few days? you don't seem chewed up your de facto parents were killed, implied tortured, you psychopathic freak.LOL. I think that's more proof that such a scene either wasn't filmed yet or was temporarily excised. Anyway to me, they're not brothers because it makes no sense.
>>223184903>>223184923the deleted Biggs scene makes it clear Biggs is anti-Empire too, so i just took it like a more neutral Spaceship University and then the Empire recruits (or conscripts) graduates.i mean other groups/companies will need pilots too, right? whether you're working for the big evil empire or not, some planets must just need freight deliveries. or local space cops, even if it's fighter pilots.
>>223174435This. How people don't see the Republic becoming a military out of necessity as the better story is beyond me. How the fuck is anyone supposed to feel stakes in a fucking war when combatants on both sides are manufactured?
>>223181788the interview with Mark hamill is a nice one quite early on and quiet. he seems much more himself there somehow, maybe because as he says, he isn't known in England and so can be relaxed.also shows that right from the beginning he is interested in the film/universe.
>>223184998>so i just took it like a more neutral Spaceship University and then the Empire recruits (or conscripts) graduates.The book make it's more clear that Biggs and whoever he can persuade are going to "jump ship" which implies that they'd have to kill a bunch of Imperials to get away it maybe. I mean, his superiors would not appreciate him leaving just whenever, right?Sounds like he was going to steal materials too, but on that point I'm unsure.
>>223174821>you had to assume that the Emperor used clones to create his army,You mean the Stormtroopers who all had different voices? And the comics printed prior to 1983 showed recruits who were not clones? No, nobody HAD to assume, stupid.You're a moron and you're pontificating your bullshit after getting the basic premise wrong. !!!FACT!!!
>>223185008do you think current leaders feel anything about individual soldier, or just the end result?to them it's like playing an rts with a millón units.
I thought there were just a couple of clones and they were important pieces to the war. Maybe two leaders of opposing factions, both claiming to be the original got into a fight that escalated.
>>223185047>I thought there were just a couple of clones and they were important pieces to the war. Maybe two leaders of opposing factions, both claiming to be the original got into a fight that escalated.It's funny how your post is way more intriguing that anything in the prequels, regarding that lore at least.
>>223174177I thought it was some kind of BIG FRAGRANCE battle.
>>223184953Owen was a stern man who pressured Luke into a life of moisture farming and inane chores. Owen also hid the history of the Skywalkers from Luke. Ben, on the other hand, told Luke that his dad was a jedi hero, gave him a fucking lightsaber, pulled him up from the sands of Tatooine and took him on a space adventure to save a sexy princess (who he didn't know was his sister at that time). So yeah, he wishes Ben was there. What would Owen do if HE was there? Frown, scold, order Luke back to the farm for this year's harvest, and probably throw the lightsaber in a trash compactor.
Sorry for typos, but yeah Obi-1 was a clone. But what happened to Obi-Wahn?Oh and get this, and this is straight from Lucas and not some later book: Lando was originally going to be an entire race of clones. All Lando, all the time.
>>223184953*LIGHT BULB MOMENT*I think I'm right. Lucas even confirmed that he filmed the Lars BBQ scene to avoid the dreaded kiddie "G" rating. That fully explains it. There's a version of SW before it was done where his aunt and uncle don't die, or at least not so hard.
>>223182398Harrison Ford famously said during filming>George, you can type this shit but you can't say itImagine creatiing a fart huffing post like you just did when its really just actors struggling to read weird NEW words to the camera. Fucking retard.
>>223175644>"Your father's lightsaber. This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight.">"For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic."Nothing Obi-Wan says implies they were hermits. Your little kid brain was just confused by Obi-Wan and Yoda becoming hermits to hide from the Empire.
>>223185135Nta, but you're not a hardcore fan and it shows. See: >>223185093Lucas was utterly obsessed with the idea of clones.
>>223177959Clones were not new. A whole planet based their economy on making and selling clones to other worlds. They were around long enough that a diner owner from way back in the 1950's new about them and their clones. Obi-wan wasn't surprised to hear about clones, they're not some strange mysterious technology.
>>223174177Nothing, I thought it was just a throwaway line.
>>223174177I always imagined it was bad guys who were making clones of themselves and invading the galaxy or some race who multiplied via cloning. To be honest, the actual clone wars seems misnamed. Wouldn't you call it the separatist war?
>>223185159So *smack smack* what you be sayin is, we need a prequel for the prequels to unnstan da prequels?
I assumed it was more of a proxy war, like clones of high ranking jedi and other important people fighting each other.I remember at one point thinking that was going to be the twist with Darth Vader; that he was actually Venom Anakin.Kind of divided on whether or not the real story is gayer or not. The execution definitely sucks regardless. Star Wars ends after Hoth for me.
>>223174335>>223174435You guys forgot one detail: the clone army is made by some mysterious guy no one heard of, for reasons unknown, with funds no one knows where it came from, then seemingly freely given to the Republic. They take the clones without question and just... use them? No further investigation needed, just integrated them into the deepest, most secret, most intimate areas of government and society where they could do untold amounts of harm. But the cloners said they were safe so it's ok!
>>223185092>my dad was strict and made me do chores instead of having fun with friends>i'm not GLAD he's dead but i'm happy he's GONE FOREVER >:(((Luke is 19, not 13.
>>223185092>So yeah, he wishes Ben was there. What would Owen do if HE was there? Frown, scold, order Luke back to the farm for this year's harvest, and probably throw the lightsaber in a trash compactor.He was just trying to save Luke from a life of sucking on big monster titties and being morose. Growing up is realizing that Owen was right all along.I mean, blowing up the Death Star and overthrowing Vader and Palpatine didn't go jack, remember?What great story.
>>223185154>Nta, but you're not a hardcore fan and it shows.I mean, I've only met and got pics and autographs with Ford, Lucas, and the entire principal caste except for Guinness and Cushing, but okay kid. My point is retards read WAY too much into how actors were pronouncing words on set in 1976.>dey used extra syllables dat means dey are a clooooone!!!I'm such a hardcore fan I've been putting up with retard takes from morons and their stupid headcannons for almost 50 years now, you fucking tourist.
>>223185202It's even gayer than that: they knew who Master Siphilis was, but he was dead, so they just went with it lol.
>>223185262>I mean, I've only met and got pics and autographs with Ford, Lucas, and the entire principal caste except for Guinness and Cushing, but okay kid.You mean you didn't get the entire cast, loser?lol Btw autographs mean nothing to me, but that is cool. >for almost 50 years now, you fucking tourist.We're probably the same age. Chill out, have some dip.
>>223185169>To be honest, the actual clone wars seems misnamed. Agreed. A better name would be the Loyalist-Separatist War because the name 'Galactic Civil War' is already taken for the war between the Empire and the Rebel Alliance. And also because it wasn't just clones that fought in the so-called 'Clone Wars', the Separatists used droid armies in that war.
Why was Darth Vader Luke's father?
>>223185262hi mark
>>223185304>You mean you didn't get the entire cast, loser?Yesssssssssss. Let the hate FLOW through you! I actually have a Guinness but I paid for it. I've met everyone else and gotten my autographs in person.
>>223185363I got some sand from the exact spot that Anthony Daniels was at by the Disney-rented dinosaur skeleton. So that's kewl.
>>223185340This isn't reddit, go be a faggot there. Imagine trying to pull the "hurrrrrr its Hamill" when he filmed extensively with Guinness and had his pic taken visiting Cushing. Moron. As I said already:>I'm such a hardcore fan I've been putting up with retard takes from morons and their stupid headcannons for almost 50 years nowand that continues.
>>223185319Because Anakin Skywalker had weak pull-out game>>223185386me too
>>223185408and meant to say "hi, Mark". I was introducing myself, but if you're too much of a clown I won't bother.
>>223185425I also got a photograph from a scene in TESB that no else on the planet has. So I got that going for me. It's a real photo too.
>>223184937Not really. Droids are easier, cheaper and quicker to produce than clones.
>>223185443Of course you did.>I won't bother.Imagine the narcissism in thinking I would give a shit!>>223185450Of course you do. And I have almost 50 years of putting up with bullshit lies of people making similar claims like they'd seen the script for Episode 7 and had a Han Solo Stormtrooper figure in 1983.
>>223185044But they aren't literal clones that can be mass produced. If we had the ability to clone people or use droids for warfare then no one would care.
>>223185511>Of course you doBut I do. It's not a new character or something really juicy, but it's something cool from an angle that no one has seen. I offered to mail it to T-Bone so he could put it up on his website, but he got sand in vag and acted like you.
>>223185618So post it here then. T-Bone has always been a faggot, and he's far from the only game in town.
>>223185044That's not the point retard. The issue is that the Republic just accepts the transition into a military dictatorship for no reason whatsoever. If Palpatine was gonna convince the galaxy to become a authoritarian regime with a voluntary backed army as seen in A New Hope then it would make way more sense if a necessary draft forced men to fight against an evil clone army causing everyone to have greater connection and need for a military dictatorship. God damn how do you retards not realize that with a clone army and a droid army the conflict is basically made to be a minor inconvenience. Hell the movies make the war feel like a minor conflict at beat because of its piss poor handling of the conflict.
>>223185064Thank you. Imagine my disappointment.
>>223185639I need to scan it, but at any rate, I'm gatekeeping it now because of anons like you. I also have cuts of beloved films that no one else has.Maybe if I can 50 days in a row without an anon acting like a faggot towards me I'll upload it.We both now that no one here can act right for that long, so oh well. More just for me.
*can goAt any rate, it will be uploaded at some point because I'm not really that much of an asshole.
>>223174177Graphic designers fighting each other with the clone tool.
>>223185669I'll admit that I was in some sort of denial. Now, I do like the prequels, but not in a way that I buy that they're connected with the originals. It's just official fan fiction to me.
>>223185672>I'm gatekeeping it now because of anons like you.Of course you are. You don't seriously think this kind of bullshit is anything new to someone like me, do you?>I know something YOU don't know>prove it>NO I don't like whatever so that's my excuse not to prove anything!I mean, this type of faggotry is older than claiming your dad works for Nintendo.>More just for me.Fine by me. You're clearly trolling in the oldest most obvious way. How about trying not to be a faggot and tell everyone how you came to be in possession of such a rare one of a kind photo that NOBODY else has but you? Lets see you stumble your way out of this one.
>>223185778lol dude...:>>223185688Relax. You'll also be wanting to blow me pretty soon because of something I've uncovered. Yeah you don't believe me, but I know a part of you does deep down. Have faith.
I had audio books on tape that had characters like Clone Luke, Joruus C'baoth, Mara Jade...I thought Clone Wars could have been some crazy war where Sith's cloned themselves or each other, fighting for superiority. Giant armies of clones fighting each other...What we got instead was a bit lame in comparison
>>223174177A war with clone soldiers making up the bulk of the forces.
>>223185793>trolling intensifieskek. You're desperate for (you)s. What a faggot.
>>223185202>Fear and anxiety has never made people accept questionable things in real life For all you know there are in investigative journalists trying to get to the bottom of it.
>>223185928I'm not the one acting like a woman on the rag.But rest easy, sister, good things are coming.
>>223174177Some rich guy set up a cloning operation that was left alone for a little too long and started scaling itself to dangerous proportions (clones making clones). I just thought it would be basically some guy making himself an obligate obedient army of slaves.
>>223185997>I'm not the one acting like a woman on the rag.He says, as he lies and continues to troll.Tell you what, I've noticed you've done everything you can to sidestep and not answer my earlier question, as expected, but what's the Provenance on your exclusive photo? Answer that or fuck off like the lying nigger troll you are.
>>223186079>but what's the Provenance on your exclusive photo?It technically doesn't have one, if you mean officially documented. I don't lie or exaggerate. It's a real developed photo-chemical picture and I got it from people who would have such things. Either way it's going up and so are those cuts I mention. Eventually. I got a life believe or not. Star Wars is just a hobby.
Where does Bigger Luke fit into all of this? Was he a clone?
>>223186122>It technically doesn't have oneBecause the source is your ass. >I got it from people who would have such things.Lying SO bad you contradict yourself. Kek!I got a picture of your dad sucking off the mailman. Trust me bro!
I like 2 & 3 but phantom menace is terrible.
>>223185450>I also got a photograph from a scene in TESB that no else on the planet has.>It's a real photo too.>>223186122>It's a real developed photo-chemical pictureCool story bro. You have a print but not the original negative, and have deluded yourself into thinking NO ONE ELSE has it. See, when you string along a pathological liar long enough they easily trip themselves up. The only difference these days is it's all in writing in the same thread instead of lying retards on the playground. Again, literally nothing new or original about your lame trolling.
>>223186231Oh you were trolling me the entire time. Good one, faggot.Have a nice day thougheverbeit.
>>223174335>droids vs clones is funNo it isn't. It looks like a no stakes video game. Do you get really excited when you see a halo cutscene? It's pointless.
>>223174177
>>223186294>You have a print but not the original negative, and have deluded yourself into thinking NO ONE ELSE has itGood point. True. There's is a negative out there or it. Duh. But it's not online or in any magazine, books, or digital medium. Now try to have a better day, you darvo troll.Anons like you suck the fun out threads and you project all your own faults onto others.Go outside, please.
>>223186313killing kids is brave and stunning
>>223185667minor inconvenience? what about the driod attack on the Wookies!?
It takes work to restore materials for things that you like, and it turns out that the people who (some of us) that do this like to talk to people.That's our mistake. lolIt's part of why the Internet is dying. A lot of people don't want to risk making some asshole's life brighter, but I try to remember that it's not really about me and never was.Not my pic, but from another thread in which a different anon was attacked and berated all for the sin of taking the time to add something, even if it was small, but something "new" that they found. Bet they won't make that mistake again.Lucas felt that way for a while. Why do you think he sold it?
>>223174177>What did you think the Clone Wars was as a kid?I thought it was the name of a war, and had a deeper meaning about the conflict itself. No one on earth thought it was about actual clones fighting lol
>>223186295>Oh you were trolling me the entire time.Just waiting for you to trip up in your lies, which you have. Clearly you were expecting me to kiss up to you and beg, and you never got the satisfaction. I never believed you from the start, this has been a fun little diversion where I finish my coffee.But the most hilarious lie you told was trying to name-drop T-Bone and act like he wouldn't have sucked up to you for your "rare" "one of a heckin' kind" print. Toppest of keks from a sad little faggot troll.>>223186332>Good point. True. There's is a negative out there or it. Duh. But it's not online or in any magazine, books, or digital medium.Kek. The lying troll admits he's backed into a corner but TRIES to say it doesn't exist anywhere else.NO ProvenanceNO mention of what it even is a picture of to prove you wrong.You are a sad little faggot>n.n.nnoo I won't share it until you're not MEAN to meeeeKek. What a little faggot loser troll. KYS. And you can have it buried with you, IF it even exists (which it clearly doesn't) Faggot.
>>223186420heh ya. Vietnam War... gotta be something deeper there. Can't just be about fighting the Vietnamese...
>>223186421You got problems. Now you got the attention you wanted; what is it that you wish to discuss?
>>223186392>Not my pic, but from another thread in which a different anon was attacked and berated all for the sin of taking the time to add something, even if it was small, but something "new" that they found. Bet they won't make that mistake again.KEK! What a LIAR! I was in that fucking thread, OP was putting these cuts up on Archive for us to see, and literally everyone was thanking him profusely. Nobody was attacking that OP at all you absolute fucking LIAR! Damn, you're fucking pitiful!!!!!Most trolls troll for attention, you're literally begging for people to kiss your ass. Wow, are you like morbidly obese and unable to get out of the fucking house you're THIS desperate?? Fucking KYS
>>223186439The Clones Wars, is very different than that. I imagined it referred to two equal powers fighting each other when I was a kid, and it was named the Clone Wars because of that
>>223185460Star Wars already named it the Clone Wars, and that names doesn't make sense for a war that is clone vs droid.
>>223186445>what is it that you wish to discuss?Where'd you get the photo?What's it a photo of specifically?You've intentionally failed these two questions several times now. Because you don't have the IQ to keep up this lie and it's actually getting really hilarious at this point.
>>223186465>if I lie, then that PROVES the other anon is lyingYou're making me sad for you. You think I want people to do what YOU want for yourself. Ok, next time you post I'll just ignore you. I am curious as to why you are so unhinged.
>>223174177I thought he said "clown wars".I was picturing America vs Israel or something like that.
>>223186547>Ok, next time you post I'll just ignore you.AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!I FAILED TO KISS YOUR ASSSSOH NOES I don't have to put up with your FAGGOT behavior!!KEEEEKKKKKKKK!!!!!!
>>223186546>anon can't understand what protecting sources mean>so they're furiousMan, I feel bad for you. Honestly, you sound absolutely bonkers. Try to have some fun today. Play some video games. Go beat off, or go to work if you do.
>>223174177Clones of Luke, Han and Leia running around, a body snatchers kind of thing. When I was a kid these actors all felt like they were in their 40s so it made sense to me.
>>223174177interesting side tangent meant to have the audience asking this exact question, "what were the clone wars?" "clearly mustve been something important if this backwater farmer kid knows about it, huh, interesting, this world has depth and the current scenario is just a small chapter woah"really basic fiction worldbuilding, you throw lines in like this at random for the same reason, it engages the audience and compels you to want to know more, it's cheap and easy bonus points to add depth, regardless of if the thing is explained or fleshed out ever. episode 2 didn't need to happen for the clone wars to be some cool thing that happened in the past and has implications for the universe now etc
>>223186596>protecting sourcesHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!What are you "protecting" them from?>Hello, Police?>This is George Lucas>Somebody took a PHOTO on my movie set!>Oh, about 45 years ago>Hello? Hello?KEEEEKKKKKKK!!!!!You keep on protecting those "sources" from some supposed 45 year old crime of snapping a photo of a "different angle".PITIFUL!
>>223177268Same. It was just some abstract bullshit that I was never going to get to see so I didn't give a fuck or even think too hard about it.
>>223186643This.It if was made now it would have been fully explained with some shitty flashback, you can be your aunt suzy's ass on that (Scrooged reference).
It was just a piece of dialogue to further the world building and simultaneously add to Obi-Wans backstory and the idea of Lukes father. I personally didn't think anything of it when first hearing it as a child. It was just glossed over and never had any elaboration in ANH or the two films afterwards so it was mostly unimportant to the current situation in the movies so, meh.
So what's one if you guys' favorite SW quote?I like these two>There is much anger in you.and>You have controlled your fear. Now release your anger.Especially that last one because it can be taken two ways.
I guess the pathological liar troll finally fucked off? Literally the most pathetic attempt at fishing for someone to kiss his ass I've seen in a long time. Too fucking funny. Oh well, I've finished my coffee. Time to get on with my day.
>>223186313I think George Lucas would say he was simply doing something different with the prequels than he did with the ot
>>223186798An angry anon drinks caffeine!?Now, do not reply, or else that makes you a "liar."
>>223174177The Clone Wars cartoon should have been adult animation and controlled by someone more competent than Filoni who could actually direct the moral complexity. That, and finding a reason for millions of ordinary citizens to get conscripted as well.
>>223186511>Allen Dean Foster Same Foster that wrote the Alien novelizations?
>>223186870>adult animationHhhhhhwhat?
>>223174177i assumed that the Empire got so insanely massive because they were up against an enemy whose numbers would never deplete, due to the cloning hatcheries the enemy used. and that Boba Fett was a scarred veteran of the wars. early concepts of Boba was that he was a specially trained commando of the Empire. his armor was originally all white too. when they made his suit it was originally all white, in fact. functionally it wouldn't have really mattered if they'd gone that route with Boba in ESB as either a bounty hunter or a special Stormtrooper commando tasked with catching Luke's pals. same difference. i didn't envision that entire droid armies were part of it. i also got the sense that the Clone Wars wasn't so much fought amongst the stars, that it was more planet-side, and you do kinda see that reflected in the PT.
>>223186922The white Fett is pretty cool. The action figure is probably a small fortune by now, the new one not some prototype.Did you know that Boba Fett was also going to be the real galactic emperor in Episode VI before Lucas decided to end it in '83?
>>223186870>The Clone Wars cartoon should have been adult animationIdk, I feel like seeing Ahsoka get railed for 7 seasons straight would get bored at some point.
>>223187019You know what? I'll take it.
>>223179137This nigga bragging about living in eugene oregon
>>223179137Jk it’s not Eugene>Dune Peninsula at Point Defiance Park in Tacoma, WashingtonI’m going to post it on normietok so a bunch of fanboys ruin your spot
>>223181539>>223182929>>223183002that's weird. I guess you must be a boomer because jurassic park was already out by the time I saw star wars and dolly the sheep came shortly after and there was that 007 game about cloning
Wasn't Lando meant to be a clone in that chick's first draft of TESB?
>>223187505I'm a 90s kid who watched it on VHS before the prequels and maybe on tv but the Clone Wars thing must have always just been something I didnt care about because it was so minor. Pokemon would have definitively made me aware of cloning though because Mewtwo (who originally was going to be a sheep lol). And I feel like it must have been in cartoons growing up somehow. Star Trek teleporter accident clones on reruns maybe?
>>223187804I probably saw the originals on TV or vhs before phantom menace but I wouldn't have picked up on that throwaway clone wars line that never comes up again. maybe I did ask what a clone was at the timeI think the mewtwo sheep thing is just a rumor. pokemon red and green came out 6 months before dolly the sheep was born
>>223174725“The power of one, the power of two, the power of many……”
As a kid, and even as an adult later on, I completely forgot about it. Wasn’t until the title for Episode two was revealed that I put any kind of thought behind it.
>>223188151>As a kid, and even as an adult later on I didnt even think about things
>>223186779>I'm a Jedi, like my father before me.
>>223174177this
I didn't cause I watched it in French dub, 1977 french dub, which was a rushed job where they cared more about how it sounds in french or deadass literal translations rather than whatever was going on in Lucas' head canon scriptures. It was called "la guerre noire" (the black war) instead of any clone war. Sounded bad, mysterious, and nondescript enough that you don't dig into it other than just thinking that Anakin was a badass space samurai veteran, and was war buddy with old Ben.
>>223176953are the helmets and the body armors really that differently colored?
>>223191226I'm guessing you're used to strong uniform porn lighting?
>>223174177> did you ever had yourself cloned?> ever fucked your own clone?
A clone is a posh clown.
>>223182429One of my favorite bits is how the Rebels’ comms quality degrades as they enter the Death Star’s shields. Little details like that are what separate good from great.
>>223186465I was in that thread too.guess there really are only a handful of anons left.
>>223192223That anon you replied to is completely insane.
In fact, that anon reads exactly like the anon that berated the other anon for uploading the Star Wars Spotlight broadcast. They think they hit a genius tactic by trolling the shit out of anons and also sucking them off, but they're typing style and triggers are all the same.What triggers? Anything positive sets them off.Any Star Wars thread where there's any positivity and sharing, he shows up and pukes his bile over it all.In their warped mind, anything they don't recall never happened, and they alone are the decider or what's correct. Like many trolls, they have self-esteem issues and wish to dominate strangers on this board about space wizards of all things.
i am the phantom menace
>>223174177You know when both players pick the same character in a fighting game?
*their(I can read their crap now, >OOH YOU TYPED THEY'RE INVALID!!!!!11)>What?! The you don't hear the voics in my head?>then YOU ARE LIAR KEK LOL
>>223191650It's what one means when one talks about 'movie magic', you're totally sucked in and buying everything by that point 110%, and you're right that it's those details that matter in selling it.People don't seem to get why the original was as popular as it was at the time. It wasn't just effects and superficial aspects of the kind Disney are trying to replicate. It's the story including all those details that made it great. I've never gone to see a movie more than once in a theatre, despite liking quite a few, but if I were older back then and was able to, I probably would have gone to see that more than once like a lot of people did.Just the little details in the dialogue are great, "Cut the chatter Red 2", you've never seen these guys before and you never will again, but you get character and the oft-forgotten character interactions, (how characters play off each other, what they think about each other - the space between them), to the point you know and care at least something about them in that space of time, (RIP Porkins a larger-than-life hero of the Rebellion). Everything matters, even if we're just cutting to Leia pulling a concerned face. Shit is happening in different locations but we're being funnelled into one riveting narrative by all of it.What Disney is currently doing is D&D stat rolling for their characters, making costumes, giving them Starwars-y names, but there's nothing of any significant value happening between them. They can't see it because they're meritless fucktards, it's 'invisible', but that's where all the shit that really matters - the movie magic - lives. The Death Star magnetic field interacting with their comms is along the same lines. Even if you didn't "notice", your brain did.
>>223192403Nta, but do you remember that Lucas changed the echoing intercom voice during the scenes where Leia monitors the battle? The flat tone that's common now sucks.
>>223185667it is the point, faggot.one day you'll realise just how short circuited you've been all this time and you'll start sewing your name labels in yourself. until then, stay eggy
>>223185511I have the original work print of episode 8 which Lucas was going to make first. he told me at the viewing that "i figured it'd lead me back to 7, like 4 did to 3".it was OK, but not his best work. although the dialogue was a lot deeper, the pacing was too different, it felt like a scorsesi film
Remind me never to enter a Saar Wars thread again.
>>223192403all those details were carefully added by Maria in the edit.lucas had no clue what he was dealing with and just filmed it all as a direct sequence of events.he originally didn't have clear visors or names for the rebel pilots, and said>they should be cool with mirrors on their heads so it's all spacey
>>223192572Blame the fat bald angry virgins that think they're the lord masters of all SW knowledge.Anons like that must worship corporations because they believe everything they say, yet nothing from their fellow fans that lack their particular mental illnesses.SW fandom has to be the angriest and looniest by far. The materialism probably had a large hand in it 'cause no one can touch the Lucasfilm merch machine that has a grip on many lost souls.
tl;dr:>I spent more money than you on junk so I am therefore God^is what they seem to think.
>>223192742anyone who still has any starwars junk is a slave. I chucked all my stuff out years ago, broke it up and disposed of it so no one else could be tricked by it. first edition model prototypes, the works.
>>223192796>I chucked all my stuff out years ago, broke it up and disposed of it so no one else could be tricked by it. first edition model prototypes, the works.Brave if true. Some of those things are worth a mint. I don't have a problem with someone collecting a thing, but to make it their entire identity?
