>how did you know?How did he know?
Alot of his deductions were pseudoscience. At least psych and Sherlock had some ground on the believable.
>>223175301>Sherlock had some ground on the believableConfirmed for never watching the show
>>223175280He's the ultimate "that guy"Dude has such an npc face it might as well be video game protagonist
Because he's the mentalist.
Sell it all.Today.
The Red John final episode is so dumb. Its not like it killed the serie for me (i liked the actual finale) but jesus what a poor episode with a poor character after all that built up for like 6 seasons.
fun show and Robin Tunney a qt
>>223175280u niQQas should check out High Potentialit's literally The Mentalist but gender swapped
>>223175280He explains it in the episodes
>>223175541Sherlock? It had some vaguely tangential strings of logic.
>>223175280Why was he not Red John?
>>223175591Bruno Heller was just making it up as he went along>Remember how Red John was so scary he made the psychic lady go into a catatonic state? >Remember how he killed some guy down in Mexico in mere hours before the CBI got there? >Remember how he had multiple people mass kill and them kill themselves? >Yeah all that was just a Napa Valley 60 yo small town sheriff who was deathly afraid of birds lolKWAB
>>223175301>psychI, too, also have a built in HUD in my eyes that pinpoint and explain details of things I'm seeing
>>223175591>>223176973Yeah the Red John shit was a disappointment. Would've been a great twist if it were someone more deeply personally connected with Jane throughout his teenage years or his con artist years. Rigsby, Cho, or Lisbon also should've been killed by Red John to really make that Red John death scene feel more important to the viewer because I didn't give a fuck about anyone he killed including his wife and kid I never got to see on screen to care about.
To be really honest, a lot of Mentalist episodes were extremely clever and weren't really anything pulled out of the ass.I am currently rewatching it (season 4 right now) and I cant think one of episode where it was "huh? how did he know?".Also, I'd lick the shit out of Lisbon's asshole.
>>223177157Van Pelt (the REDhead) being Red John would be the ultimate twist.If not her then Lisbon
>>223177157The Red John shit was so fucking retardedIt's a shitty small town sheriff, like what the fuck?
>kinos your episode
>>223175585Came to post this, is that even possible anon?
>>223175280mentalism
>>223177450I already have
>>223175280The fuck is wrong with his face?
>>223179128Overall negative canthal tilt but still handsome despite lookists saying he should be an incel.
>>223179128hes australian
>>223177249and her feet?
>>223175301i was able to suspend my disbelief for the pseudoscience and yet it really bothered me that a couple of times he "solved" the case by getting a confession at gunpoint/with torture
>>223175301>Sherlock had some ground on the believableJesus fucking Christ
>>223176973For the first few seasons they aimed for the Fight Club reveal. Every time Red John spoke, it was Simon Baker voicing him. Every time he interacted, he only interacted with Jane. And Baker directed those episodes too.Bradley Whitford was top-tier Red John, too bad they had to do the whole "he's a fake" to make another season.
>>223175301>>223176433are you talking about elementary or an older sherlock show? there's no way the cumberbatch shlock would leave you with that impression
>>223175591The Red John angle should've been dropped almost immediately, it was a bad ideaBut it was the era of dark and gritty antiheroes and hella serialisationJust skip those episodesAlso skip all the scenes with all the other characters
>>223177249always thought she was irish (from ireland) and keep getting surprised when she isn't. did she play an irish character, accent and everything, at some point?
>>223175631In 1999
>>223181360>dark and gritty antiheroeshow the hell was the mentalist dark and gritty? it was the usual procedural
>>223177328>Van Pelt (the REDhead) being Red John would be the ultimate twist.Imagine her flopping out her massive Red Johnson in the final episode.
>>223177249>Also, I'd lick the shit out of Lisbon's asshole.This please, but it needs to be very hairy. Top qt, too bad there's no good forearm hair scenes in the show, she used to have a decent amount back in the day.
>>223181360>The Red John angle should've been dropped almost immediately, it was a bad ideaIt only really got bad after the fake reveal though.
>>223182548That's my point, it was a light-hearted procedural but they tried to shoehorn in le dark and gritty long-running serial killer Svengali/Moriarty and it didn't workShould've just caught Red John in season 1 for the few people who cared, or else retconned away that whole plotline>>223183088Disagree, the tone was off and the arc was mehYou can't have a light-hearted brightly-lit gentle detective show where your lead is a twinkly-eyed scamp who is simultaneously obsessively tracking down his family's killer, with a view to eventual extrajudicial punishmentThe two elements are working against each otherE.g., the viewer might ask, as I often did, "How come like 90% of the time he doesn't seem to give a fuck about catching Red John and avenging his family?"And of course the answer is that that's not really what the show's aboutHe's not a brooding anti-hero, he's a twinkly-eyed scampIt's not dark, it's light
>>223177249Yeah, the stories were better than most detective shows, but they still suffered from the same issue that half of the time the accused needed to confess because otherwise they had literally no hard evidence, and the other half the case would be thrown out of court in real life because of all the shenanigans they pulled.
>>223183808>He's not a brooding anti-heroHe's brooding literally all the time though?
>>223175591The show wasn't about the Red John case, not really. It was about Jane and his life. Red John was disappointing but his overall life trajectory is kino, and seeing the show take a final season to show how Jane gradually comes back to life and reclaims what he had previously lost is kino.
>>223183935>He's brooding literally all the time though?no he isn't. most of the episodes are light hearted and he keeps playing pranks and having a good time. it's only the red john episodes where he gets serious
>>223175585I knew you were going to post that
i like cho
>>223184332they made an asian tough guy character that was decently believable, not an easy thing to do
>>223184506The only good side characterAnd even then they overdid him
>>223177249>Also, I'd lick the shit out of Lisbon's asshole.I already came in it so bon apetites
>>223175301Its almost like he following some kind of script of the universe
>>223175280His best role was in LA Confidential.
>>223175591I also thought the Red John revelation was a big let down at first, but over time it grew on me.Hear me out:It doesn't really matter who Red John was, at least not to Jane, he only wanted to kill him to get revenge for his family (knowing that it probably will do nothing about his guilt), but he didn't really care about Red John's bravado or games. He engaged in them because he knew that's what RJ really cares about.RJ on the other hand wanted to show Patrick (and preferably everyone else) that he is smarter than him. To him it was just a big game, his ego never could have allowed to just kill Jane without facing him and rubbing it into his face. Jane knew this, as he also knew that RJ's many accomplices and his relatively big influence will likely never allow the CBI to simply capture him. So when the moment inevitably came, Jane goes for the simplest method possible: uses a distraction with one of the few things he uncovered about Red John (his fear of doves) and shoots the guy. Then when he catches up, he simply strangles him. No big speech, no huge revelation. He just goes for it. I don't think Red John even understood, in his final moments, it was like 'why is Patrick ruining the game?', which then turned into genuine fear for his life, begging and afraid, dying like any ordinary man, losing his larger-than-life villain charisma and aura. Very fitting, he got the greatest reality check of his life with no way to escape death anymore.I also thought that RJ's identity of being a backwater town's sheriff suited him well. Such a lowly, unassuming guy on the outside, yet has so many followers, so much power and influence over higher up people, politicians, policemen, the like. For him it must have felt like a wolf being able to walk amongst lambs undetected, and for a guy with such narcissism and ego that is very suitable. That way he could play his games and nobody ever would suspect him because he is simply out of sight for most people.
>>223175280>You can't have a light-hearted brightly-lit gentle detective show where your lead is a twinkly-eyed scamp who is simultaneously obsessively tracking down his family's killer, with a view to eventual extrajudicial punishmentYet you had it and it worked just fine. Sorry you don't understand any kind of a slightly complex character retarded American zoomer?
