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Why is Hollywood so obsessed with The Whore of Babylon?
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Where is the 7 headed beast?
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Long story short: they took a stupid joke from a below average movie she was in in 2009, which I gave a slight twist, by heart..
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>>223179688
because I love whores
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>>223179688
Christcucks (including jews, who are mostly honorary christcucks) want to bring about (manifest?) the end times by aping various biblical elements.
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>>223179764
This.
Read your bible, OP.
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>>223179764
Right here baby *unzips*
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>>223180307
No saved Christian believes you can hasten me force the end times. Only fakes and jews. Christ is real, hell is real. Choose His mercy over rebellion
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>>223179688
is it just me or dose she look like Anna De Ville
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>>223179688
Anything Jerusalem doesn't want is dumped here.
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>>223180801
If hell is worse than this stupid ass life then christ and his dad can suck my balls all the way to the 9th circle
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>>223179688
they're pushing an anti-mesopotamian angle and want you to continue associating babylonian lordship and marduk's jew-trouncing justice with evil
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>>223180893
Heaven is better.
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>>223180997
Is it really true that I can repent 0.01s before my death?
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>>223181210
Part of Jesus's message was condemning the Jews for treating God's commands like rules to be circumvented through legal loopholes. If your heart is sincere then it's possible for you to repent late in life, and turn your heart to God just as Saint Dismas did while dying, but consider how sincere your penitence actually is.
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simps need to be decapitated with shovels
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>>223179688
Women above the age of 25 look disgusting.
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>>223181444
This. Decapitate non-chad.
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>>223179688
She is the embodiment of the literal opposite and antithesis of the holiness and goodness of Mary Mother of Jesus Christ.
as above so below ying yang crap; alchemical opposite of Light
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>>223179688
gooning to this rn
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I really, really like this image
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>>223179688
did anyone even watch that movie? i only heard about it on my Satanic Symbolism website and here on /tv/
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>>223181631
I watched it
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>>223181631
it's basically experimental theatre play mixed with concert footage but it's amazing. First and so far the only 10/10 movie of the year
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>>223179688
Because she rides a cool demonic dragon and later gets eaten by it.
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The Whore of Babylon, according to those well-versed in their religion, and Jews if nothing else understand their own faith even if it is mostly to look for loopholes, was never intended to represent a person or being, but rather served as a metaphor for Rome itself.
So a bunch of Jews see the Whore of Babylon, associated with Rome, as a symbol representing the Catholic Church in modern times. So basically Evangelicals and Jews hating on Catholicism as always and trying to mock Mary the Mother of Christ and Jesus Christ himself by association, though Evangelicals aren't aware of the last part, being the useful idiots that they are.
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>>223179688
Satire and subversion of Catholicism is the safest way of anti-religious topic in mainstream media. Catholicism is the default religion in pop culture, and the only religion that is allowed to be mocked without "punching down", because otherwise you're a bigot.
TL DR: is a cliche, and one of the safest.
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>>223179764
EU HQ
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>>223180801
>Worships a jew from a Jewish whore
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>>223181210
>Is it really true that I can repent 0.01s before my death?
Not really because a true reconciliation requires sacrifice on your part in some measure. It might be possible to come to a true epiphany in only a moment of time or even the perception of it but I find myself highly doubtful you could actually achieve it.
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>>223181210
Yeah but you have to actually repent, not give some token gesture.
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>>223181631
>i only heard about it on my Satanic Symbolism website
As in pro or anti Satanism?
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>>223179688
get the preggo boobs out
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>>223182252
Repent for what? In your mind im going to hell just for being a flawed person. Ive never done anything really bad.
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>>223182283
Hell is separation from God. You chose to live your entire life ignoring him despite ample opportunity. Why should you go to Heaven after death?
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>>223181428
this story was erroneous btw

the two thieves insulted jesus in other gospels

only in one gospel where the thief repented

it's all just made up horseshit
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>>223182303
>your deranged deity created this world knowing 90+% of humanity will go to eternal torture because they didn't obey an invisible cosmic jew
>he is ignorant of the effects of his own creation

you people are insane
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>>223182340
It's not really eternal torture like in Dante's inferno. That's metaphorical.

The point is that you have behaved in such a way as to close the gates of Hell in on yourself. You have locked yourself inside a prison and now you're accusing God of doing so when you could have repented and lived differently.
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>>223182303
You can go to whatever black infested jew paradise that their book is promising, I'll continue the cycle of reincarnation all the same.
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>>223182370
You won't end the cycle of reincarnation for the rest of us by worshipping a jew, but please go and stay go in bible land and leave the rest of us alone.
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>>223182370
>you behaved
Did I decide where I would be born, my religion, my genetics and culture?

Your magic kike controls all the variables but never any of the responsibility lmao

The bible denies free will. He literally says the people who get saved are the ones he chooses
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>>223182423
>bro my upbringing caused me to rob the convenience store
I don't even think leftists buy this anymore.
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>>223182417
>make a disparaging remark about Christians
>Christians respond politely
>"Grr Christians, leave us alone!" >:(
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>>223182455
>the created is more responsible than the creator

you worship the most horrendous jewish inversion of reality
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>>223182491
This whining only really works if being a good Christian is hard. It's not, and all God requires of one to reach Heaven is to just at least try sincerely; it's just the media that sells you the idea that Christianity = no fun. Which in itself is sad, because the only "fun and banned" things you do is masturbate and play to much video games.
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>>223182546
what the fuck are you even babbling about

why should anyone larp when every single problem in the world was also created by your deity

your god is the father of satan let's not forget
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>>223180530
>Half of them gazing at the whore instead of paying attention to the destruction the rest is causing
LMAO didn't the beast was a mega simp
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>>223179688
I think it’s you who’s obsessed
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>>223182694
>what the fuck are you even babbling about
re read, anons post made perfect sense
>why should anyone larp when every single problem in the world was also created by your deity
Incorrect, the worlds problem have been made by man.
>your god is the father of satan let's not forget
He created him. And loves all His creations so much (you, even more so) he will not even kill satan.
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>>223182320
>the two thieves insulted jesus in other gospels
>only in one gospel where the thief repented
>this story was erroneous btw
No it actually sounds very possible and very human. I'm no believer but people can be so stubborn to truths that it takes the threat of death to convince them that their ways will lead them to ruin.

Case in point my next door neighbor didn't put away the booze and fatty BBQ food at his age. He did it almost every other night until recently. I hardly see him do such things anymore. It doesn't take genius to know that he must have had a rude awakening from his doctor to know his lifestyle will leave him dead
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>>223182007
Based Bible Scholar.
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>>223180530
The Old Testament was so metal. Imagine all these monsters, demons, and other pagan gods running around with tribes worshiping them.

God had to exterminate all of them. With No mercy. He had to command armies and angels to exterminate entire countries because they were so irredeemable. The humans living there were beyond saving (cannibals, savages, human sacrifice, sexual defiants, etc).

Why don't they ever tell those tales? Why don't we get a hardcore Warhammer 40K style version of the Bible with God laying down the law with force and zero mercy? I would totally read that.

Instead we get this super soft Church approved version of the Bible that tells us to be nice and turn the other cheek. Don't be mean.

I want to hear about the awesome stuff. Tell me about God genociding human countries that were beyond redemption. Tell me about Demons so powerful that God's Angels had to battle them for weeks in a supernatural showdown that shook the Earth. That several angels needed to work together. Tell me about awesome battles. Tell me about the Nephilim getting destroyed by gods wrath.

I hate this soft Bible we have today.
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>>223182370
Nta but is true what other Christiananons say about hell? That it's not actual meant for humans and that it's not fire and brimstone like hollywierd likes to portray it as? That hell is just the absence of god and the reality of hell is that it's just a cold dark lonely place or something like that. I'm very comfion these things
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>>223182491
>>the created is more responsible than the creator
Do you blame your parents for every mistake in your life?
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>>223182897
All depictions of the afterlife fail because they're attempts at physically rendering an experience that transcends the physical. The coldness of Hell isn't the coldness of a winter morning. It's a spiritual or metaphysical coldness where you're separated from the ground of all truth, beauty, and goodness. Some interpret this as non-being entirely, which I suppose you could also describe as cold.
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>>223182870
>Why don't they ever tell those tales? Why don't we get a hardcore Warhammer 40K style version of the Bible with God laying down the law with force and zero mercy?
nta but because a message of war isn't exactly welcoming to normies vs a message of peace and ever lasting life. Just look at muslims
>I would totally read that
What's stopping you? No real Christian will deny the old testament if you ask them.
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>>223182870
It's just what was fashionable in I assume 19th century. You are welcome to establish a new fashion trend. I love medieval Virgin Mary for example. Here She just went, "Gabriel, hold my baby Jesus" and tackled the devil.
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>>223182870
People get upset when they're told they're too old to take up skateboarding. Modern man wants to believe everything is reversible and nothing is fixed. The idea you can be condemned for an irredeemable immorality does allow for the eternal manchildism of modernity.
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For millenia Babylon was their center of operations. After Alexander's death they moved to Ptolemy's Alexandria. There they used material in the Great Library to successfully fabricate a claim on Israel.
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>>223182986
>The coldness of Hell isn't the coldness of a winter morning. It's a spiritual or metaphysical coldness where you're separated from the ground of all truth, beauty, and goodness
Yeah that's what I was trying to get at....sounds about right. So. If I died as a nonbeliever I'd go to this metaphysical and spiritual coldness huh? Separated from truth beauty and goodness? Sounds like some peoples lives right now

You know I can't help but think about and rewatch this deleted scene from a movie one of those christiananons posted. For some reason I feel like there's a grain of truth here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9qAqwIW704

>All depictions of the afterlife fail because they're attempts at physically rendering an experience that transcends the physical
I mean you're not wrong but it's hard for people to try to understand without painting a picture.
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>>223182990
>What's stopping you? No real Christian will deny the old testament if you ask them.
The Bible used to have more books. Then the Church held a big meeting hundreds of years ago and banned all the books that had all the cool stuff anon mentioned (like angels fighting demons, angel mythos, etc) such as the Book of Enoch.

But the church did a bad job because other books in the Bible still reference the Book or Enoch. But you can't actually look up Enoch in the main official Bible
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>>223180307
Nice projection
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>>223183054
>Get him, mom *claps*
Lol
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>>223183096
So what you're saying is that people would refuse to accept the idea of a crusading God destroying heresy, and that people are too used to a soft and loving God to accept any change to that embedded idea?

I disagree.
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>>223179688

your mom is too busy to accept their gigs
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>>223179688
You mean Inanna-Ishtar? Pretty cool goddess
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>>223180307
Gee I wonder whose behind this post?
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>>223183226
Oh yeah I forgot about the fact the kings james version is everywhere in churches. Book of Enoch? I don't think I've read it but I guess it would be a fun read.
Personally even though im not religious I prefer christians having a loving God. Christians who follow the king James version I find the most friendly and loveable neighbors
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>>223182283
Being gay and sucking a billion cocks.
Way too many cocks bro.
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>>223180587
That's a one eyed puppy
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>>223181463
At that point about a half of a mile of crap came out of their anus... Talk about used goods
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>>223179688
They like the aesthetic but don't care for the full story and correct interpretation.
The beast with seven heads and ten horns are the satanic, degenerate kingdoms and lesser principalities ruling the earth in the last of the last days (coming very soon). The whore is the economic, political, and false religious power riding these degenerate kingdoms. When the last war kicks off, these kingdoms will devour the whore to pay for the war that ends at Armageddon. She burns in the war and total collapse occurs.
She is not a seductress for us peons - she's an esoteric metaphor destined to die horrifically while the Saints smile in justice.
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>>223184223
>Book of Enoch
Its the book that holds all the fun stories and magic and shit
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>>223179688
I don't care how evil she is. I just want to see her do full frontal before she's too old.
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>>223182806
>No it actually sounds very possible and very human.
Do you know what sounds impossible though?
Everything else in that story
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Can we move on from semitic tales?
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>>223182870
almost none of what you described happens in the bible and the whore of babylon is not even in the old testament. read the fucking bible instead of spouting nonsense.
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>>223180922
Based understander. Marduks blessings are now on this thread.
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>>223182870
>I hate this soft Bible we have today.
You don't have to buy it in paperback lol
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>>223182870
are you not embarrassed typing this out?
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>>223182303
just cult things
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>>223179688
Don't care, still would
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>>223186558
based anne appreciator
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>>223182396
Blacks and Jews both burn in hell thoughever. Especially the Jews. I'm sure there are at least a few good blacks in heaven.
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So you guys fell for religion? You understand it's all bullshit right? The Bible contradicts itself so much lol
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what was god thinking when he made niggers and jeets
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>>223179688
Very accurate description of Anne Hathaway. She is emblematic of Jewish dominion over white women. They full on psyopped this bitch into marrying a Jew, they own her completely. The nasty geriatric pregnancy they have her parading around this year reeks of demonic cult ritual.
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>>223182340
>tips fedora
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Is Satanmaxxing the new meta for women as they hit 40?
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>>223183817
Is Babalon, Lilith, And Inanna/Ishtar one and the same spirit?
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>>223186479
Heh
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>>223182870
revelations is new testament
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>>223187045
No.
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>>223186771
Always was. Most aren't hot though, they just get 6 cats and rabidly support Lindsay Clancy online.
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>>223182417
>You won't end the cycle of reincarnation for the rest of us
Shouldn't you be stealing from some old lady over the phone right now, Kothi?
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>>223179688
shes ugly, couldn't they find a hotter woman?
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>>22318234
bad ending #1
>>223182370
bad ending #2
>: You've lived a pious life devoted to god - 85 years? try 85 infinities, that's how long you now get to live a sin and conflict-free life of absolute servitude licking god and jesus' toes in heaven or something? (it's never really specified what you're expected to do for all that time of perfect existence but i assume it involve some repressed sexual slave fetish stuff?)
heaven sounds like the other side of the same coin with this whole afterlife business. Eternal torture in hellfire, or Eternal submissive toe licking and grape-feeding and presumably alot of hymn singing in heaven for eternity both sound like hell to me, and both of them involve a sickeningly nihilistic aversion to actually putting any effort into fixing *this* world or making it a place where sin doesnt really need to happen too much because it's pretty nice and stuff. nope. fuck it, just worship christ and DIE asap after indoctrinating your children to do the same. that's peak human potential.

>3rd ending: trick good ending for pseuds who think they outsmarted god: Reincarnation into the same reality, doomed to repeat it, possibly as a cockroach or black person. a form of eternal hell in itself.

>secret 4th ending (good ending): You die. You simply stop recieving sensory data from your senses and don't wake up. If you tried hard in life and made an impact, great! that's the reward. if you fucked up in life and caused suffering? The suffering has already occurred, you've already experienced shame or regret or guilt, nothing will ever be more punishing. ultimately, you're dead and whatever personal hell or personal reward for your life lived will be granted to you as you live it, and you will know the justness or unjustness of your existence by the time youre on your deathbed.

Imagine what humanity couldve been by now without 5,000+ yrs of carrying all this shit on it's back instead of just making this world a nice place, for one life
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>>223179688
Reminds me of Mother Miranda in RE Village.
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>>223180997
The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.
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>>223182870
> this guy will screech incoherently if the jeep says "happy holidays" to him
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>>223179688
Because Jerusalem is the Whore is Babylon and they're the Synagogue of Satan.
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>>223179688
Anyone else unironically attracted to Anne Hathaway? Something about her makes me romantically smitten by her even though she's an evil cold person irl
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>>223186771
how to get a gf like that
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And the whore of Babylon shall ride forth on a three-headed serpent, and throughout the lands, there'll be a great rubbing of parts. Yeeah...
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>>223179688
Shes so fucking hot god damn.
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>>223180868
The buttslut from perverse family? Yes, a bit.
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>>223179688
I got like 5 minutes in and this movie gave off extremely gay vibes so I turned it off and deleted it.
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>>223186558
do what? goon to a toy?
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>>223181210
You have to actually mean it you can’t just say I’m sorry. Of course only God will know if you mean it in your heart
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>>223180997
>Heaven is better.
Almost nothing is written about what heaven is like because they couldn't formulate a coherent view on it. There's plenty on hell though. This caused some real problems for christians though since they believe in actual bodily resurrection, which led to philosophical problems about what would happen with incomplete bodies, or what if someone actually ate the body of another would he be resurrected in part or inside someone else?

Heaven is also a theological problem because christians are prone to answer "yes" when asked if you have free will in heaven, forgetting that the supposed reason this world is a pile of shit is trying to protect our "free will" by not interfering. Meaning you can't have free will in heaven. You can never go backsies, you must always be a god drone, for eternity. You can't ever have any human thoughts, because those could be sinful and wrong. So you'll just never want to (eg. you're brainwashed).

The ancients also realized the problem for those who remarried, getting resurrected into multiple families in heaven. But that was okay because you won't have families in heaven. Except that's not what most people assume or want, so that had to be revised as well. It's the "will my dog be in heaven, if God is good then it must be because I want it".

None of that shit really matters though because christians these days have no theological grounds for anything they believe and just make up whatever religion they want it to be.
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You fellas don't actually believe in this nonsensical book of fairy tales right guys? You're just shitposting?
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>>223187045
No, Inanna-Ishtar is the sumerian and later akkadian and babylonian goddess of war, love, fertility and political power. Lilith is a sumerian demon. Babalon is some goddess made up by Crowley.
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>>223179688
I watched this garbage, zero boobs plus tranny Hunter Shaffer. It's a zero out of ten film.
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>>223187871
She looks busted af dude.
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>>223179688
One of the increasingly common movies that I didn't even bother to torrent for midweek slop.
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>>223181210
The QTE is pretty difficult so you may not want to risk it
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They're all Lilithmaxxing
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>>223187645
>even though she's an evil cold person irl
i know what you mean when you say that but i want you to state it directly so you can look like a retard to other anons
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>>223190072
>rejected her because she wanted to cowboy ride him

Was the first man actually gay?
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>>223181631
I'ts just a feud between the narcissistic lesbo lady gaga and her bpd tailor ex.
guilt and forgiveness are such alien concepts to cluster b people so it feels like satanic magic to them, so it's depicted as such for the visuals.
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>>223190124
>man was made in god's image
yes

imagine getting punishment by doing nothing other than being the great-grandson (billion times removed) of a gay retard created by a all powerful gay retard 14 billion years ago (or 6 thousand years ago if you're also a gay retard).
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>>223182870
>Why don't they ever tell those tales?

Maybe because the first task of a church is to evangelize itself and you can't get people to join up if you stress that the god is a genocidal maniac who kills everybody in a Great Flood, except for a chosen few.
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>>223180530
Its a metaphor of bukkake btw
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>>223190739
>Maybe because the first task of a church is to evangelize itself and you can't get people to join up if you stress that the god is a genocidal maniac who kills everybody in a Great Flood, except for a chosen few.

Yes you ABSOLUTELY can. Didn't you ever hear about the Crusades? Half of Europe joined up when they heard that purging heretics in the Middle East forgives you of all previous sins.
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>>223179688
I mean, where else is she going to come from?
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>>223191153
The whore of babylon is a Long Island girl named rebecca
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>>223185915
They occurred in the banned books of the Bible like the Book of Enoch, Book of Jubilees, Book of Abraham, and Book of Isaiah. The Church got rid of all the books that deal with angelic lore, cosmology, demons, supernatural ideas, and anything to do with descriptions of what Heaven is like.
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>>223191176
in canada ours is a toronto woman named mel
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>>223189160
>Almost nothing is written about what heaven is like because they couldn't formulate a coherent view on it.
There's plenty written on what heaven is like. Just go look up the "non-canon" Books of the Bible that Church banned 500 years ago. All the cool stuff is in there.
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>>223179688
Why does she look kind of like that edgy 2000s atheist youtuber guy who went woke and tried to "deradicalize the right" but ended up trooning out and dressing in these sorts of outfits and making these insane videos that felt like tripping acid, then s/he dated that British philosopher guy but he raped him/her then trooned out himself to try and steal the first troon's life, and he was later in the weird satanic witch scene in Star Wars The Acolyte. I don't know what's happened to the original troon but I heard it all from my tranny friend and used to watch him back in the day, I'm not a faggot I swear but this "Whore of Babylon" looks more like the tranny of Babylon.
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>>223179688
>Why is Hollywood obsessed with whores
do you hear yourself?
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Oh yeah and I think Hillary was in his house for some reason I forget what the deal was there. Anyway sorry to go off topic, I just think Hollywood has a whore problem in general and loves showing the degeneracy of ancient times.
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>>223190739
>Maybe because the first task of a church is to evangelize itself

Yeah but they chose books that focus on earthly affairs. They didn't want the masses of people thinking too much on what heaven and the afterlife is like. In some ways it would undermine their power of the masses focus too much on the afterlife and not what they do on earth.

>and you can't get people to join up if you stress that the god is a genocidal maniac who kills everybody in a Great Flood, except for a chosen few.

You know nothing of the Great Flood. God didn't just decide "yeah today im gonna randomly flood the earth for no reason". He flooded the Earth because rebel angels were sleeping with human women and creating offspring called Nephilim giants. They were half angel and half human abominations. They were extremely violent, ruled humanity and the animals with an iron fist, enslaved humans, and were destroying the Earth and environment.

Humanity had turned extremely wicked. Human sacrifices, sexual deviancy, and total degeneracy was everywhere. Morality was lost.
Except for a handful of humans, the rest of humanity was deemed irredeemable. The flood was necessary to wipe the board clean and deal with the rebel angel's Nephilim children.
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>>223190124
It was more because Lilith was created directly by God the same Adam was so she demanded from Adam equal treatment which is kinda fair tbqh. Adam said no and then Eve was created from Adam's body.

This is important because it implies Eve was not as good of a human as Lilith, since she was created from an already imperfect being, Adam, and not directly by God. So basically it explains why women are the way they are now, and also heavily implies again that if modern women had been Lilith's kin and not Eve's we would be in a much better situation.

tl;dr Adam fucked up big time and damned us all to suffer
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>>223191198
The church had nothing to do with making those books apocryphal you fucking dumbass, the Jews did. They had their own canon established centuries before Christianity existed. Get fucked.
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>>223190121
why do you care what others think when you finally found someone to understand you?
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>>223191544
>The church had nothing to do with...

Council of Trent (1546). Church leaders got together and chose which books were official canon and which were not canon for the official church Bible. They got rid of any book that deals with angel lore, supernatural, and the afterlife.

Try again anon.
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>>223183124
>So. If I died as a nonbeliever I'd go to this metaphysical and spiritual coldness huh? Separated from truth beauty and goodness? Sounds like some peoples lives right now
despite being a roman catholic I don't personally concern myself with the specifics of the afterlife beyond wanting to be with god and see my loved ones again maybe, BUT, as I understand it, it's more or less as you describe it. Hell is literally just the absence of god, and as a non-believer, the idea is that you've already chosen that, so hell isn't "punishing" you so much as literally just giving you what you already wanted. I consider most "creative" versions of hell (e.g. dante's inferno type depictions where you get tortured by demons in ironic and convoluted ways for eternity" to be retarded because what would possibly be the point of that for god, not to mention the fact that there is precisely zero theological backing for them.
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>>223184323
yeah pretty much this, almost all of the weird creatures described in revelations are meant as allegories for the monstrous abominations which are the powers that be in this realm and all the assorted horrors they inflict on the world. some slightly wacky interpretations of revelations even imply that the events described and the creatures described are actually a constant process rather than a specific point in time in the future, and that the dynamics which revelations outlines are basically meant to represent the constant nature of powerful entities commiting sin and god's constant judging thereof etc etc. this in particularly helps to reconcile the fact that concepts like "babylon" frequently referenced appear to refer to multiple different cities across time which all equally live up to the metaphor of "big evil world city / empire that crushes the weak underfoot"
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>>223191704
theologylet here, is what this anon describes true or was the council of trent justified in their decisions here
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>>223191875
Mostly true. The Church couldn't agree on whether the books should be allowed because of all the talk about supernatural magic and demons in them. So they didn't allow the books in the official Catholic Church Bible. Calling them banned is a stretch though.
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>>223191984
Isn't a good chunk of the old testament borderline theologically irrelevant anyway? My perspective has always been that most of the old testament is effectively a patchwork of pseudohistory + literal mythology haphazardly held together by the pre-jesus jews, which does contain a lot of useful truth but also a lot of stuff which is either totally irrelevant or more or less made obsolete by the new covenant established by jesus? and then the new testament is the most relevant, recent and theologically coherent stuff that actually relates to jesus himself?

I'm not saying the old testament isn't theologically important btw I know how important it is particularly in terms of all the prophecies and references that crop back up in the NT nad which jesus fulfills but my point is more that shit like noah's daughters getting him drunk and then fucking him evidently doesn't really matter to the christian religion, and so similarly I can understand the concept of entirely excluding books which contain stuff deemed to be theologically irrelevant or even damaging to the actual purpose of jesus' mission on earth (although at that point I suppose you could make the point that who are we, humans, to decide what does and doesn't count within the OT)
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>>223191537
That's not it. God was trying to create a stable family. A father, a mother, and children.

Lilith refused, demanded her own independence, and left the garden. God attempted to offer her a chance to return but she refused again. God respected her free will, and allowed her to leave the Garden and explore the world on her own

Lilith ended up choosing evil, embracing demonic magic, and for some reason grew to hate newborn children. Lilith became the symbol of "anti-motherhood".

God later realized that in order to create a stable family, there must be only one head of the family. You can't have two competing heads trying to fight for control. So Eve was created from Adam's rib. Eve was kind, caring, loved children, and usually deferred to Adam's judgment. This the stable family was born. One father (head of household and makes the major decisions), one mother (nuturing to children) and the children (who were supposed to respect both father and mother).

Lilith chose her own path with the free will God gave her. God respected that and let her choose. Her independence led her to do evil and embrace demonic arts.

Eve isn't lesser because she listens to Adam. She's important to a stable family life. The Bible makes it clear numerous times that you can't build a family with a quarrelsome woman who fights you at every turn.
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>>223191704
Those books were not included in the Hebrew canon to begin with you stupid faggot. They were NEVER part of the bible.

>>223191875
He would genuinely benefit from spending some time browsing Wikipedia,ignore him.
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>>223191731
>precisely zero theological backing for them.
Really? Zero? I could have sworn I heard something about Jesus describing hell with a pit lava near by him
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>>223192506
The Midrashic literature was never even SUPPOSED to have been part of the bible to begin with shit-for-brains. It's not even apocryphal. It's literal Jewish fanfiction written.
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>>223192506
That's all made up bullshit and sounds jewish
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>>223192297
>which does contain a lot of useful truth but also a lot of stuff which is either totally irrelevant or more or less made obsolete by the new covenant established by jesus?

But there's A LOT of background lore and information about Heaven, Angels, Demons, supernatural magic, and the afterlife in these banned books. It's very surprising. This lack of info influences how the Church teaches people in the modern era.

For example, the Tower of Babel story. The Bible says Humans work together build a giant tower and brag that the tower will reach heaven. God becomes annoyed at this arrogance, strikes down the tower, and makes all humans speak different languages so they can't unite again. The modern Church preaches the Tower of Babel story is a story warning humans not to be arrogant, and to always be humble before God.

But then you read the banned books from the Bible and it gives you different perspective. The banned books say the Tower wasn't just some "random big tower". Rebel Angels were helping humans build the tower, and teaching humans forbidden Angelic magic that angels use. At the top of the tower there was going to be a ritual. The Ritual was supposed to open a doorway or portal. The portal would cut through dimensional barriers and open a door directly to Heaven. The Rebel Angels promised humanity that they could see their dead family and friends in heaven. That's why humanity was united and working together.

This angered God because he designed Heaven to be separate from the living. Not some place you could casually visit. If you could casually visit, then it would ruin any meaning life or death had. Just go visit your parents in the afterlife! Take a portal to go see them like taking the bus. So God destroyed the tower, made humans speak different languages so they couldn't share their angelic knowledge with each other, and imprisoned the rebel angels for eternity

Now you see the huge difference between the Church Bible and banned books
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>>223192663
The bible is a compilation of multiple sources. This is why it's full of doublets. Genesis 1 and 2 are separate creation accounts slapped together. The Midrashic stories were written to explain the breaks in the narrative. The story of Lilith, which is a bunch of sex jokes and not a serious theological lesson on the family or whatever this fag is saying, was written yo explain why Genesis 1 says God created people plural and 2 is the Adam story.
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>>223192568
>Those books were not included in the Hebrew canon to begin with you stupid faggot. They were NEVER part of the bible.
>Canon
Before the Church had meetings about what the official bible should be, you had a bunch of different "unofficial" bibles circulating in the world. Each of these unofficial bibles had different books included. They were not same and caused arguments and debates among the religious.
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>>223192857
There was an established canon BEFORE CHRISTIANITY OR "THE CHURCH" EVEN EXISTED YOU FUCKING MORON.

Fucking hell go spend an hour an wikipedia at the very minimum before you opine about the bible ever again YOU STUPID FAGGOT.
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>>223192901
>There was an established canon
There wasn't.
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>>223192901
>Fucking hell go spend an hour an wikipedia
>Wikipedia

Wow.

You are just terrible at this. You actually suggested Wikipedia. You just killed your entire argument with that one suggestion.
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>>223182069
KEK
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>>223193047
It would genuinely help you, that is how wrong you are about everything. You don't even understand the basics. I'll bet you never even heard of "Midrash" before had you?
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>>223192994
what do you think the Torah is?
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>>223192901
>There was an established canon
If there was an established canon, then they wouldn't need big Church meetings about deciding what is canon.
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>>223193609
Try reading the post you're replying to.
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>>223182232
>a true reconciliation requires sacrifice

That's what Jesus was for you stupid pseud. Read your Bible and shut the fuck up until you're finished.
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>>223193609
the books mentioned (outside of the Book of Abraham which is mormon schizobabble) are all jewish texts written and argued to death long before Christ was born.
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>>223191434
>God didn't just decide "yeah today im gonna randomly flood the earth for no reason".
he did just that tho. there were billions of alternatives he could choose from, like with every single decision he did before and after that, and that he always regret btw.
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>>223191434
>He flooded the Earth because rebel angels were sleeping with human women and creating offspring called Nephilim giants.
not in the Bible anywhere, this is Enoch shit
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>>223193766
>he did just that tho. there were billions of alternatives he could choose from
Such as?
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>>223193766
There were no other options possible. It's like when your computer gets so infested with viruses that you can't save it. So you format the hard drive and wipe the whole thing clean. Then reinstall Windows.
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>>223179688
jews
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>>223182785
it didn't

your premise is that you are supposed to grovel and worship a god who created the problems in the first place

maybe he should beg for my forgiveness for birthing every demon in existence

>>223182901
my parent is not an all knowing omniscient omnipotent creator that controls every variable from the beginning of time you disingenuous retard
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>>223193794
>Enoch shit
You know other official books in the Bible actually reference the Book of Enoch right? That's the funny part.
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>>223194754
>my parent is not an all knowing omniscient omnipotent creator that controls every variable from the beginning of time you disingenuous retard

Your parent doesn't control you. That's called Free Will.

But your parent DOES know that if you go the Ice cream Store, that you will choose Chocolate ice cream. That doesn't negate Free will.
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>>223194790
1. the bible denies free will

2. you did not even have free will to choose to exist in this bizarre battle royale

3. free will is incompatible with an all knowing god who already knew your destiny before you existed and is responsible for every facet that entered your life

4. your arguments are stale and debunked
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>>223194337
>>223194563
make them disappear instantly
make them good instantly
kill noah and his family as well
delete everything instantly
make everything perfect instantly
make everything actually perfect from the start
do nothing

it just paints him as a retard who just do things as he goes with no foresight, then getting mad because of it.
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>>223194872
>free will is incompatible with an all knowing god who already knew your destiny before you existed and is responsible for every facet that entered your life

I run a bookstore and invite you to choose any book in the store. If I have read every book in my store, does that mean you don't have free will to choose?
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>>223195052
>make them disappear instantly
That's the same as killing them.

>make them good instantly
That violates free will.

>kill noah and his family as well
Why? Noah and his family were actually good people.

>delete everything instantly
>make everything perfect instantly
Violates free will.

>make everything actually perfect from the start
Violates free will.

>do nothing
He did do nothing for many hundreds of years and many generations of people. God was waiting to see if humans would repent and return to being good. They did not. They only got worse.
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>>223180136
Good Morning Sir
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>>223182870
It was just a copy of Mesopotamian tales with some self insert god
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>>223194790
>parents know that if you go the ice cream store, that you will choose chocolate ice cream
>they bring you there and tell you that you can choose whatever you like, but not the chocolate one
>they tell you that it's bad and will make you have a explosive diarrhea if you do (they don't explain what that is)
>they give you money then go hide outside the store out of your view, but can still see you
>and knowing they didn't teach you to never listen to strangers, then they let a guy they know, but a stranger to you come in and start to talk to your sister, saying it taste's really good, convincing her to choose the chocolate ice cream, so she tries to and succeeds at convincing you
>it does taste good, but your insides starts to churn, so you realize you'll have a explosive diarrhea eventually, that you made a big mistake, so you hide
>they come in and pretend not to see you behind the tables, calling you
>you muster the courage to go talk to them but lie about eating the chocolate ice cream, holding your belly in pain
>"you got the chocolate one didn't you Anon?"
>"i-it's not my fault, it's Anonette's!"
>"no no, it's the stranger guy!"
>"who? this guy over here?"
>they rip his arms and legs off in front of you
>then they say it's all your fault, and that you will suffer with explosive diarrhea as long as you live
>the same will happen to your children (and they children's children, ad infinitum), because they inject you with hereditary explosive diarrhea virus
>then they kick you out of the ice cream store, lock it forever, and abandon you on the streets
WOW
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>>223196052
Green text is supposed to be short. That's the entire point of green text.
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>>223195529
What happened to all the cool Crusader Knights from old times?
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>>223195364
>That's the same as killing them.
exactly, but there's no reason to cause pain to little kids, babies and animals, just delete them instantly
>That violates free will.
yeah, like killing them because they're not behaving how he likes it
>Why? Noah and his family were actually good people.
because the same shit happened again
>Violates free will.
yeah, like killing them because they're not behaving how he likes it
>Violates free will.
yeah, like killing them because they're not behaving how he likes it
>He did do nothing for many hundreds of years and many generations of people. God was waiting to see if humans would repent and return to being good. They did not. They only got worse.
and continuing to do nothing for all eternity would be upholding the free will, but he chose to violate it by killing them instead of doing anything else
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>>223179688
She's pure Jew
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>>223182340
midwit retard with a midwit retard pic with a midwit retard top text bottom text image format
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>>223179688
They are trying to pawn their industry clut onto us. Nobody wanted her back, the magazine interviews and bullshit to keep her in our face.
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>>223196620
Killing doesn't violate free will.

God gave them a choice. He warned humanity numerous times. But they chose to ignore all the warnings and faced the consequences.

If you are going to debate, then at least read the material before debating.
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>>223196308
95% of all "crusaders" were accountants
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>>223179688
>The Whore of Babylon
>Hires The Whore of Hollywood
Bravo Nolan
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>>223196721
>Killing doesn't violate free will.
killing them because they're not behaving how he likes it does tho
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>>223191111
They did it for money and land, retard. Islamic kingdoms invaded non-Muslims the same way.
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>>223179688
Wow the new bleach live action looks sick
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>>223197062
恐怖
Kubo should have just let Byakuya be dead
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>>223197688
>Please give byakuya the neji treatment
No
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Imagine her riding you while her BBC bull fucks her ass
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>>223197012
The Crusades were a net drain on European finances. It cost enormous amounts of money to raise armies and supply them to Jerusalem.
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>>223191537
That sounds petty af of a 'God' to do, bud. You sure you want to serve this retard?
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>>223198870
that's actually pretty nice that she's taking time to talk to EVERYONE there even if they're just trying to get her autograph.
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what are some other AGP actress and AGP kino
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>>223198855
>>223198870
I odyssey DEM UDDERS.
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>>223199570
You know she got a boobjob, right?
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>>223182870
>asspulls
>i i miss le old bible
pffttt lmao at least read the bible you disingenuous fag
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>>223192828
It was written at the Library of Alexandria, contemporaneously with the Septuagint, as a deliberate application of Plato's Laws to create a governing myth.
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>>223199576
I dont think my dick cares
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>>223179688
Our Blessed Lady is the opposite of everything Jew Hollywood glorifies.
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>>223191704
Trent was just reiterating what had been affirmed by church fathers such as Sts Jerome and Augustine 1000 years ago.
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>>223199570
Brava!
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>>223199621
He's talking about banned books not allowed in the bible tho?
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>>223182283
What do you mean "for what"? You're the one that asked if you can repent last second lol
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>>223182283
>Repent for what?
You are the one asking for forgiveness.

You don't repent unless you mean it.
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>>223195638
They will ignore this obvioys truth for eternity.
This is why both mutts and isis destroyed the ruins of Nineveh, btw. To hide the truth.
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>>223198823
A net drain for state finances, fueling profiteers and the elites, correct.
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>>223181210
You can’t trick God by sinning your whole life and then asking for forgiveness at the end.
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>>223202288
You have to actually feel remorse and genuinely ask for forgiveness. It can't be faked. God would know.
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>>223197062
Uncanny
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>>223182870
bible cinematic universe finna pop off fr
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>>223182696
Because they tear her apart, jackass. They only simp as long as needed to gain power, then destroy her to rule without partnership.
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>>223182370
>>223182897
>>223182986
>>223183124
>>223191731
>>223192604
In the story of the rich man and Lazarus, Jesus tells of how the rich man woke up in flames and torment. He also says in a different verse that it is better to enter life maimed than to enter hell with both hands where the fire is never quenched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZYhR6jNJ8
This video does a nice job of explaining it if you are interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYZa5LW3Wqk&t=216s
The main issue is that modern translations use hell for Sheol Gehenna and the Lake of Fire when only the lake fire is the ultimate destination of those who died in rebellion. This will explain how it actually is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZYhR6jNJ8
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>>223179688
I command you to stop noticing
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>>223179688
I wanna licker pusy here
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>>223195052
>a retard who just do things as he goes with no foresight, then getting mad because of it.
It makes a lot more sense when you read it as a bunch of jew savages trying to come up with post-hoc explanations for the events that happen.
>why did [thing we dont like] happen?
>must have pissed off fate
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>>223196721
Extortion is not a choice.



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