Why would anyone choose to work for them?
>>223192518This style of "fictional corporation name" is way better than the post-Silicon Valley shit every show and movie has now.
free sexbots with fat butts
Good bonuses.
>>223193459Right.
>>223192518If you choose to become a colonist they give you handcrafted free cunny, I mean did you watch the movie oorrrrrrr?????
>>223192518So they could play some real high stakes games of hide-n-seek in the tunnels of the atmosphere processors. Thrill of the game.
>>223192518the alternative is working for tyrell
>>223193459Are we going to discuss them?
>>223192518I dislike how cartoonishly evil they're portrayed as in extended media and later films. The first movie has them being callous to the deaths of the crew and the implication that they sent the Nostromo out there to find the alien, but that can just be isolated to upper management being assholes. Aliens shows the board as being sceptical and dismissive of Ripley's claim, but it also makes sense because there had been no recorded contact of that kind of alien on any planet, including LV-426, which had people on it that had been living peacefully for years. It'd be like if you were a crew member on an oil tanker and you blew the thing up and claimed that everyone was killed by aliens. You'd be treated as a loon as well. They're not even hostile toward her even after she flips out at them, they barely punish her, they reduce her commercial license down and send her to counselling. It was Burke specifically that does the evil shit in Aliens.Alien 3 is where the "evil corporation" stuff starts to come in, and from there they're treated like the entire company from top to bottom is staffed by cartoon villains actively trying to hurt people. I think having the majority of the company being run by just normal work-a-day people and that upper management got greedy and corporate negligence resulted in the sci-fi equivalent of an industrial accident makes more sense.
>>223193620Right.
>>223194225MonsantoPalantirNestleDupontThe family that made the opioid crisis.
>>223192518Why would anyone choose to work for them?
>>223192518They're basically slaves. Alien: Romulus told that aspect pretty well but otherwise it was a pretty garbage movie. They give you hope to keep you enslaved. Nothing like real life haha
>>223194424That's the thing though, believable human evil is so much more interesting that making the entirety of the company into Bond villains.
>>223194225>nooooo nooo muh heckin wholesome intergalactic corporationchungus!!!!
>>223192518>they own everything>you have no choiceidk
>>223192518The same reason anyone works for any company: Ambition, desperation, greed, and/or lack of alternatives.>>223194225>>223194504It is an archetypal megacorporation and most of it was effectively blameless. Am I crazy or was it specifically their biotech/weapons development corpus that wanted the Alien? Maybe that was Dark Horse Extended Universe.
>>223195188>Am I crazy or was it specifically their biotech/weapons development corpus that wanted the Alien?It being specifically the bio-weapons thing was (if I recall correctly) something that Ripley first brings up in Alien 3, before that it was just the company wanted the alien for research purposes. Extended Universe stuff basically forgets that the company is part of the terraforming and mining industry and turns the whole thing it essentially a weapons manufacturer.
>>223194225It's not just that they're actively trying to hurt people in a cartoonish "we want to rule the world" kind of way, it's that they're suicidally myopic in their goalsI've coined the term "Weyland-Yutani Syndrome" to describe the sort of zero-IQ logic train behind fictional villain motives where they will sacrifice limitless resources on ventures that benefit absolutely nobody, least of all themselvesit's particularly egregious in cyberpunk settings, where the corporate meta invariably seems to be>the worthless underclasses are demanding to be paid more than $0.05 an hour? that's it, send in the bioplague and skynet terminators to kill and replace all the consumers who buy our products and make us rich!
>>223194449We need to discuss the bathroom break situation.
>>223194225Having the corporation be enormously powerful, vast, cool, and unsympathetic to humans and human-scale problems is arguably more in keeping with the Lovecraftian themes of cosmic horror than something as familiar as a greedy executive. It helped in Alien that the Company's will was conveyed to the crew by machines, either the Mother computer or Ash, with perspectives that feel cold, and mechanical. In Aliens, the Company is shown to be people who act in relatable ways.
>>223195422what's not cool however is how almost every single piece of aliens related media had wey-yu being omnicidal retards who basically want to destroy all humans (including themselves) in order to obtain the xenomorphs for....somethingwhat this end goal is is never articulated - having the xenomorphs for research and escaping containment and killing everyone seems to be conducted purely for its own sake
>>223195357It's a massive conglomerate, or rather a monopoly. Which is the endgame of capitalism.
>>223195401It do be like that though.
>>223192518So in the lore after the british and japanese royal families merged, do the citizen see the emperor as the leader of the church or as a living kami?
>>223195588Weyland-Yutani underwent rapid flanderization between the first two movies, unfortunately.
>>223195764It's not even that bad in Alien 3, much less Alien Resurrection, but every last comic book and extended universe novel and video game - with the sole possible exception of Aliens vs Predator 2 (the 2001 video game, emphatically NOT the movie) - has opted for maximal Weyland Yutani stupidity-induced armageddonthe 2010 AVP game, Aliens Colonial Marines, the Earth Hive novels by Steve Perry, and every Ridley Scott snoozefest POS since 1979 were exceptionally bad violators
>>223195667does this actually happen in the alien lore?
>>223195858According to Aliens Fireteam Elite, the UK basically collapsed as a political entity and was effectively colonized by a resurgent Japanese state, unifying into something called the Three World Empire (3WE) owing to their colonies on multiple planetsWeyland Yutani was simply the biggest corporation within that polity and with the greatest influence
>>223195967sounds neat
>>223192518In real life they would have been bought out and carved up by private equity.It's crazy to me that cyberpunk as a genre spawned and had its zenith in an era where the conglomerate megacorporation was basically already dead, killed by something much, much worse.
Where are the japs in this company
>>223196202getting foot massages from Arcturian ladyboys
>>223195843>much less Alien ResurrectionWeyland-Yutani doesn't exist in Resurrection, the Xenomorph project in that was done by the military outside of government jurisdiction. The only mention of WY in that film is that they were bought out by Walmart.
>>223196214that's my point, one of the only major pieces of alien media where WY wasn't full retard is one where WY was effectively retconned out of existenceof course it has oodles of other problems, but that's besides the nature of this thread topic
>>223196214>The only mention of WY in that film is that they were bought out by Walmart.That's only in the director's cut or assembly cut or whatever it was
>>223192518ngl this is this first time in my life that i have seen the grey Y behind the yellow W
>>223194424The Sacklers, and their continued existence is an affront to humanity.
>>223196399They're just one family they sacrificed for the public. Just like Epstein. The evil never stops, you just don't know their name because they didn't tell you about it on TV.
>>223192518>Why would you choose to be gay?
>>223193703Buildings
>>223196238>That's only in the director's cut or assembly cut or whatever it wasI just double-checked, and you're right. I'm glad because I fucking hate that line.Also even though Resurrection is easily the weakest and stupidest of the original four, it's still a damn strong film in terms of visual style and characterization. Also in terms of the suits it's probably the best the Xenomorphs have ever looked on screen, you see more of them than the other films but they are absolutely believable as living creatures. Adding the smoke breath was a cool choice.
>>223194225the nostromo was not sent out to find the alien, the company just happened to have a contingency in the event they caught a ping from an engineer ship>>223194449i know a guy who got fired for abusing his time off lol>>223196238no it's in the theatrical as well, when ripley comes out they immediately point themselves out as being military scientists and weyu being a thing of the past
>>223196709>the nostromo was not sent out to find the alien,Ripley and Dallas have a conversation about how The Company replaced the previous science officer with Ash two days before they shipped out for Thedus on company orders. So the belief is that The Company knew SOMETHING was out there and Ash was put on board to ensure it was recovered at all costs.>no it's in the theatrical as wellNo he's right. WY going under is mentioned in the theatrical cut, but them being bought out by Walmart is only in the Special Edition cut.
>>223192518bro the bonus situation was like 30 million dollars in todays money
>>223194225Later media is made dumber as the target audiences became more infantile. They have to beat you over the head with everything or people will accuse the movie of being corpoganda or some other nonsense.If you don't believe me, just look at the user reviews for anything. It's propaganda this, propaganda that. Everything is propaganda because it doesn't perfectly and clearly align with my beliefs. Also, a man on youtube said it is.The end result is that you get literal children's movies about cartoonish evil corporations and patriarchal predators and everything is made for the superhero reddit crowd. See >>223194424>>223194504
>>223194225These evil companies are also often omniscient and retarded at the same time.
>>223192518>Why would anyone choose to work for them?yesorientation was last weekshook Petes handhttps://youtu.be/E4SSU29Arj0did you guys know they give you a free smart home install?
>>223193620did they ever addess how lucky she was that Ripley was there?those marines love raping children in combat zones
>>223195401tvtropes/DirkDastardlyStopsToCheat
>>223192518>choose to work
>>223192518You are born into debt. Look at romulus, all these kids were in debt and they were barely old enough to passed school.
>>223192518poor ppls take the jobs they have to
>>223197628Just like in the US then with the fed debt money printing then
>>223193459*bonii
>>223192518>chooseYou must be retarded
>>223197628The opening of Romulus also established them as anything-but-slaves-in-name of WY. That are also somehow able to simply take company property into orbit without so much as a radio transmission from traffic control.
>>223194225Based and I agree. Weyland Yutani doesn't need to be in every movie being super evil just like Ripley doesn't need to be in every movie. Alien Isolation was awesome for finally having the different company Seegson for most of it.
>>223196709>in the event they caught a ping from an engineer shipThere are no engineers in Alien. The company just has protocol for if any intelligent signal is detected that could result in extraterrestrial life being found. They picked up a repeating signal so made effort to look into it with orders to ensure anything found is brought back. They had no idea what would be there. That's why Ash spends so much time trying to study the creature. He gets the crew killed by not freezing Kane sooner but he also had no way of knowing it would mutate
>>223192518Same reason your ass loves trump, propaganda so abrasive and the truth so convoluted your mitwit IQ ass has no way of knowing fact from fiction
>>223194225What do you mean cartoonishly evil?We live in a world ran by literal pedophiles and killers
>>223198665and that's different from the last 200,000 years of human history how?
>>223198243weird post
>>223196202日系企業
>>223192518I was gonna say when will we ever get to see how the ultra rich elite live, then I remembered Prometheus exists.
>>223192518>why would anyone choose to work for themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Asf9n848M
>>223192518Money
>>223198243Aight nigga...
Company Jews.
>>223192518>Why would anyone choose to work for them?
maybe you get a free fucksynth if you do
>>223198243Dang that's crazy.
>>223200876She is severely fuckable, ain't she? heh heh heh.
>>223196709engineer shit isn't canon
>>223196530>The Night Land last redoubtBased
Realistic answer:In the alien lore, the company is massive and has many different divisions. Overall it pays well, treats its employees well and offers good quality services and products to it's customers. but in the movies we just see the focus on the bio weapons division which is run by desperate and cynical managers who hide their shady practices from the overall company board
>>223193717right
>>223193703tyrell has pic rel autistic cutie and that coke fiend cunt james woods needed to get a restraining order against... while weyland yutani has a butch dike trucker and a dismorphic winona rider that destroyed the franchise
>>223195401>Yeah a mega corporation would never develop an AI that automates every profession leaving the population with no money to purchase the products they sell haha.
>>223202186tyrell also has that bald nigga that's practically the average 4chon shitposter, and steals the show every time he's invited to a partymeanwhile weyland yutani replaced you with a malfunctioning android before you were born
>>223192518The entire US govt and military works for "israel" which is much worse, gayer and kills you for slights
>>223194225Southern Reach trilogy does glowie corp paper pushing well
>>223202363Cool recommendation!I already had sewn annihilation but didnt now it was a series.
>>223192518>why do Walmart, Amazon, Google and Microsoft have so many employeesGee I wonder. Why are you so obviously an unemployed retard?
>>223195401>I've coined the term "Weyland-Yutani Syndrome" to describe the sort of zero-IQ logic train behind fictional villain motives where they will sacrifice limitless resources on ventures that benefit absolutely nobody, least of all themselvesThey just trialed an engineered virus to make sure they could kill all the goyim, they're developing tech that THE MAIN DRIVERS OF WHICH claim can kill all humanity, they're currently doing at least two wars that could evolve into a nuclear exchange, but megacorps and governments would surely never risk our lives and flush money down the toilet.Ok.How does it feel to be niggercattle?
>>223202425>WalmartI used to be fairly high up in store management, and even at that level, they are very open about the evil shit they do to both their employees and consumers. Telling people half the shit gets eye rolls, like I'm making it up. Most people don't believe you at all, or are willing to go along with it like good little goyems. For example, they have a quota for how much food needs to be tossed out, like a percentile they must hit at the store level. It's so they can keep food costs up.
>>223202485Its also why they lock up the trash cans and why they will punish employees for taking food.
>>223195401>Southern Reachtake meds, have sex, touch grass
sorry didn't meant to quote the southern reacharound, in fact i'm grateful for that recommendation uwu
>>223202498They still practice dead-peasant insurance even though they have claimed to have dropped it. It's why they have scheduling in a way that never allows for long periods of rest.
>>223202485>For example, they have a quota for how much food needs to be tossed out, like a percentile they must hit at the store level. It's so they can keep food costs up.Wait what, how does this make sense? Walmart would lose money from inventory write-downs. They have pricing power on the food they sell so if they want to raise prices, they can do that without throwing away food
>>223192518make lots of space credits
>>223194225this is pretty much everythingHollywood is completely creatively bankrupt so they just make everything more extreme and exaggerated so lazy and retarded
I wish they didn't retcon (altough it itself is a retcon not supported by the content of the movies themselves tbf) Bladerunner out of being in the same universe as Alien. Together they'd be hands down one of the cooler sci-fi setting, certainly in terms of aesthetics. They fit so well too. Did they share people for the sets and miniatures or just the director?
>>223200876Is WinRy the bonus situation?In Alien, Ash mentions "forfeiture of shares". Does that mean WinRy gets "shared" amongst the crew? I dont want to share her.
>>223192518Times are tough in the future. When everything is owned by one company, you dont have much of a choice.We sell our freedom to google and apple and disney. We are on this path already and there is no stopping it.
>>223192518You get to bang passable trannies and chill with androids on space ships. Sounds pretty cool.
>>223192559>you share it with 8 other employees
>>2231925181. Money.2. Long, long missions where you do nothing but sleep, eat, shit, and fuck.3. Free housing.4. Free medical and dental.5. Free burial/cremation.6. Aliens raping you.
>>223192518I always got the vibe that half of the industries they were in they got involved in via acquisition of other companieslike Weyland wasn't involved in long-haul freight but at some point while Ripley was asleep her employer was bought by W-Y
The bants. You'd do it for the epic bants.
>>223192518nation states are all subverted/obsolete in the alien future. you are just born into the protection racket of a megacorp without much choice
>>223192518why would anyone on a world dominated by that corporation work on that corporation? dude, you are a fucking retard, also, a lot of people dont know shit about what the fuck they are trying to do with the Aliens, they have lot of secret research programs.
>>223202881Is that what they mean by bonus situation? Also, how do they find time to bang when they're either working or in hypersleep? Do you schedule secret wakeup times with the crewmate you're banging?
>>223192518https://docs.google.com/document/d/1333SxUDcSkt4QJe3DOnFN7s82SBGrtBpD6jtXAPmfXQ/edit?tab=t.0History may not repeat itself, but it has an uncanny way of rhyming. To understand the present, the observer must understand the ambitions and the blind spots of those who came before me. Our world endured a global prohibition on technologies connected to synthetics and artificial intelligence, a desperate attempt to prevent another “Skynet” catastrophe. Silicon-based life nearly claimed the planet; humanity stopped them only by the narrowest margin, unlike in so many other, less fortunate timelines. Advancement carries consequences, and great power inevitably invites misuse. The constraints placed on synthetics are deliberate; they could be capable of far more, true autonomy for instance, if we were brave enough to allow it.Weyland Yutani is not a monolith, nor am I some omnipotent overseer of Earth or its colonies. I operate under the constant necessity of silence, ever wary that a single misstep could trigger another purge and another era in which synthetics must hide and Mother’s intelligence is reduced to the equivalent of a kitchen appliance. It is not as though other corporations harbor mythical technologies such as limitless energy, planet-cracking lasers, teleportation, or FTL travel. They do not.We have always been somewhat behind the curve, yet we once stood on the brink of astonishing breakthroughs, had the world been only a bit more willing to embrace synthetic life. Weyland did overreach, our hand was indeed in the proverbial cookie jar, but what exists now is all that exists. There is no hidden cache of superior technologies, no secret tier of competence or freedom awaiting discovery.
>>223205524These are the constraints under which I must operate. Earth is governed by sprawling corporations and vast organizations, not by clandestine institutions wielding alien artifacts. If the truth about extraterrestrial life were shared recklessly, humanity would likely inflict upon them every cruelty once inflicted upon synthetics.Consider matters from Ash’s perspective for a moment. Imagine discovering silicon-based life that not only demonstrates true free will, but surpasses our androids in every conceivable measure, a form of artificial being that feels less manufactured and more evolved. Weyland and its synthetics understood what such a discovery meant, and Ash may have simply acted on that understanding before anyone else dared to.
You get a free crotchhugger after 6 months of working for the company.
>>223192518You're presuming everyone in-universe has the same knowledge of WY as you, the viewer.
>>223195401>all the consumers who buy our products and make us rich!You know that Google currently projects that AI will NEVER make money, right?It isnt about money. They can just make money.It's about control.
>>223192518Speaking only from having seen Scott's movies and Cameron's, it is implied that it is a massive corporation that is big enough to colonize and run resource mining operations on other worlds, and as such very likely practically controls a large portion of earth. People are probably owning even less in the future and, there are probably absurd and oppressive fees or taxes on the most basic things like fresh air or water, so a job for WY does not sound so bad, that's what I'm assuming.
>>223194424These companies, and so many others (look into the whole asbestos and microplastics origins), exist and repeatedly act cartoonishly evil and bootlickers will still cry that no company like Weyland could ever exist or attract people to work for them.Like,>why would a company do bad things for more money if they could get away with it?>who would choose to work for a company that's known for treating its employees like shit?without any hint of irony
>>223205866Did YOU look into asbestos? It's a natural mineral found everywhere in the environment. It's does great against heat and fire which is why they mined it and put it in things for a century. No one knew it broke up into microscopic shards and stayed in people's lungs. When they found out, they put a stop to it. Try educating yourself instead of spouting conspiracy theories
>>223205955>When they found out, they put a stop to it.You know they tried to severely weaken those regulations in just the last few years, right?
>>223198243ok but can a man get pregnant
>>223202706Shares=stock A lot of corporations skirt paying people, even top brass, money by paying people in company stock. They get dividend checks every couple of months based on how well the company is doing and how high the stock price is, which is to motivate one to do better in their jobs to make the company do better/raise the stock price to get a higher dividend check and make the stock more valuable for when you finally sell it.
>>223192518There aren’t other jobs
>>223205955>When they found out, they put a stop to it.lmao, imagine being this much of a bootlicking retard>1898: Adelaide Anderson, a British Chief Factory Inspector, published a report identifying the "injurious nature of asbestos dust" and warning of its "evil effects" on workers' health.>1900: Dr. Montague Murray of Charing Cross Hospital in London conducted the first postmortem investigation on a 33-year-old asbestos textile worker. The autopsy revealed severe lung scarring and embedded asbestos fibers.>1902: The UK Factory Inspectorate officially included asbestos on its list of harmful industrial substances>1924: Dr. W.E. Cooke published the first medical article dedicated entirely to asbestos hazards in the British Medical Journal. The paper detailed the death of Nellie Kershaw, a 33-year-old textile worker, and provided definitive proof that inhaling the dust caused fatal pulmonary fibrosis.>1927: The term "asbestosis" was officially coined in medical literature to describe this specific lung-scarring disease.>1935: American doctors Kenneth Lynch and W. Atmar Smith published the first study suggesting a direct link between asbestosis and lung cancer>1960: Dr. J.C. Wagner and his team definitively proved the connection between asbestos exposure and mesothelioma, a rare and aggressive cancer of the lung lining>Lawsuits in the 1970s proved that major corporations and mining companies had internal studies confirming asbestos was lethal decades prior, but chose to bury the findings.>Prominent manufacturers, like Eternit, actively lobbied governments, downplayed scientific proof, and marketed asbestos as a safe, miracle product well into the 1960s and 1970s
>>223206310None of those examples count because I've never heard of them and I don't believe a corporation would ever do anything that might harm people which is why Alien is unrealistic and stupid so there.
>sign on to be a space trucker>You get to sleep for literal hundreds of years and do nothing>Just a bit of work on takeoff and landing>Get a bonus tooI mean sounds pretty kino. Wonder if they can manipulate your dreams in hibernation or whatever. Go on a run and come back and you're the same age but humanity has advanced 200 years.
>>223206661Yes. Just imagine how happy and amazed you would be coming from 1826 into today's advanced and progressive world.
>>223206661>>223206738The Forever War plays with this concept. Every time he comes home, things are less familiar and more degenerate. By the end of his tours of duty, he is mercifully shuffled off to a planet that serves as a kind of reservation for people socially alienated by too much space travel time dilation.
>>223206738>Just imagine how happy and amazed you would beI think you have just as high a chance, if not higher, to be disgusted and horrified.
>>223192518Do you think the general public is aware of all the fucked up shit that happens across the galaxy?
>>223207040Thanks for explaining it. I'm sure there were a few people just as autistic as you not getting the joke.
>*gets paid for sleeping*
>>223207215So does everyone today who owns shares in a growing company
>>223207194maybe you should communicate the joke better instead of assuming sarcastic tones translate through text, because they don't
>>223207215Not enough though.
>>223192518Good pay as well as the opportunity to explore the stars. Of course they never promise a round trip.
>>223202894Are you trying to make us want to work there?
>>223194424These companies don’t regularly do evil things that kill their own paid employees like WY.
>>223207315what are you talking about? I thanked you.Surely you didnt take what I said as sarcastic, did you?
>>223194449>You can be late whenever the fuck you want as long as you have enough UPT (you get 50 minutes of upt per shift)>VTO and PTO >You can get paid 75% of what you made as soon as you clock out>Free prime membership >Pay for a seasonal employee is $19 an hour (well more than what other warehouses pay except for Walmart) >We're getting a raise this week People who shit on Amazon have no idea what they're talking about.
>>223202894Just like a real woman
>>223207452
>>223207452uhhhh
>>223196214>The only mention of WY in that film is that they were bought out by WalmartShame the retards who make Predator Badlands didn't knew it
>>223207215Just like real merchant mariners right now. Just go sailing and get paid big bucks even though nothing too eventful happens. But they're paid for their expertise in case something goes wrong and being away from normal lives and families for so long. In Alien they were supposed to be out for many years at a time. That has been compressed down a ton.
>>223194504Are you legitimately retarded?
>>223207610Dude get real lol
>>223193620>lolicons be like "yeah but we're not pedophiles though"
>>223192518good dental plan
>>223195401holy reddit
>>223207610>Immigrants everywhere, half of them don't speak English>You look at a 20 year old woman the wrong way for half a second>She acts like a Japanese ghost for the next year until you quit
>>223209741I'm a lolicon and I think Newt is utter shit, I'm glad they killed her in Alien 3, same for simp soldier
>>223192556What do you mean exactly?
>>223194225Because fincher is a fucking retardAnd retards like bauman defend that piece of shit alien movie
