>>223213441
Turn on your monitor

>>223213441
You got it mixed up with Fight Club

Gen Z?

>>223213441
It says Psycho in the title, bro

I'm deeply closeted

>>223213441
No it's a movie about America. Hence the title.

Why do you'll fags gotta bring sexuality into everything? Having your sexuality being the basis of your self-hatred is the height of abject hacknery. You can be self-hating while being cool with being a homo.

If dubs op is a fag

>>223213476
Its the same movie, both authors are gay

I thought it was about digits like THESE

i want a glitterati movie so bad you have no idea i've been cockteased by it for like two decades now

>>223214118
Dude you have to get a clue, because its more gay to have one of your favorite movies be an autobiographical exploration of closeted gay frustration when you don’t realize that

>they really don't realize that
'he's literally me!' they say, in front of thanksgivings and family reunions

>>223213476
Fight club is about men losing their primal selves due to over socialization

>>223213441
It was also directed by a woman. So what!

>>223214118
They don’t want you to enjoy things
>>223214155
>gay people are only allowed to make things about being gay, I’m so open minded and progressive unlike these chuds who try to see depth in art

>>223213441
>an enraged self-hating homosexual right?
He's literally me.

>>223214899
I hope it will stop hurting you some day

Why do people always proclaim that people don't understand movies like this or Starship Troopers when every review gets the joke and nobody I've ever met thought it was supposed to be taken seriously?

>>223214981
So whaaaaaaat is 'the pattern of being a paranoid double-life having violent and helpless loneliness case, maps exactly on to what it means to be an incel!'
That's what!

>>223213441
For sure homosexuals always get erect for threesomes and exclusively pursue women.

>>223214990
>only allowed to
Look I know you hate this shit left and right, but you're blind to ignore Patrick's homosexual conflicts. I'm not even saying the movie is only about being gay or whatever, you're the one who can't see the forest for the trees on account of your pickiness regarding subject matter
>people invented characters having homosexual tension just to destroy the things you love
You are clueless

>>223215001
they hate it when others enjoy things and want a shitty feminine gotcha moment

>>223215049
no my point stands
People like you want to say because something chuds like is made by something they aren’t supposed to like it means they got tricked or something
If the author wasn’t gay you would go on a shooting spree or something

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>>223214118
>Why do you'll fags gotta bring sexuality into everything?
Sigmund Freud and the Frankfurt School

>>223215017
>homosexuals can't get erect except at cock and man asshole
You could say bisexual too, obviously Patrick has a full libido around women, but the sex shown is all bizarrely controlling and you already know he's watching himself flex in the mirror as he's fucking those women. Like anything with him, it's about presentation, he doesn't seem to be satisfied with women without killing them anyways. Hardly 'just an awesome straight guy who has threesomes', the whole thing was an escalating murder plot.
But even considering all this, yes you can
And no I'm not saying he's the worst prancing la la homo boy you could imagine. I'm saying half the movie is concerned with his gay coworker and he fucking follows him into the bathroom. Again this doesn't undermine other points in the movie but the homosexuality factor is there

>>223215075
>people like you want to say
Who's people like me? That's your hail mary argument? I'm me, and that's not what I want to say. I know that. I can sit here and explain it further to you, and I will, but no, your point doesn't fucking stand if it's 'yeah but you guys hate us' because I'm not 'you guys' and you're the one who's suffering under your own one-drop rule regarding gay conflict in media

>>223215140
>it’s his Hail Mary!!!
What is this gay shit I’m just calling you as I see you with this prefab Reddit reactionary shit

>>223215112
yes you can* fuck women confidently while having homosexual conflict
Like literally the guy could be 100% straight through and through but if he's having gay conflict then he's having gay conflict. It's crazy to deny that part of the movie.

>>223215197
It’s simple, if a non chud person makes something chuds like, it means they are ignorant fools secretly the thing they hate because non chuds are only able to make things that represent their race or sexuality in a shallow way (attracted to spiders meme etc)
If a non chud makes something chuds don’t like it’s high art expression outside of simple demographic pigeon holing

>>223215112
>he doesn't seem to be satisfied with women without killing them anyways
Did you even watch the movie? He never kills anyone. How is anyone supposed to take your opinion seriously when you don't know major plot points of the movie?

>>223215197
>What is this gay shit
You don't even understand basic turn of phrase? Jesus Christ you are not very perceptive, one way or another. Allow me to be even clearer - I'm not your strawman lib, and you'll never get your straight head clear if you can't recognize when homosexuality is at play.

>>223214155
>>223214899
>>223214999
Praise kek

>>223215263
homosexual coded post

>>223215236
>Did you even watch the movie? He never kills anyone
Every sex act of his is designed around and culminates in something between a real crime and a total delusion. That's not because he's just totally happy having straightly cum to send them on their way. That's because this guy is sexually fucked up and the thing he enjoys the most about sex is the real, or imagined, idea of hurting people. Come on pull yourself together, man. 'Yeah it's about a guy who has really sane healthy sex and a really sensible and satisfied relationship with the people he has it with' right right right right.

>>223215312
You never addressed the point I was making. You are a disingenuous faggot.

>>223215338
>the point you are making
That he didn't necessarily kill anyone? Yeah I get it, I lean towards 'he killed nobody', though something might have been real and either way it doesn't matter (and you can you really appreciate this movie unless you take the ending as a message of helplessness, where it doesn't matter if he killed anyone or not, his lawyer and everyone else would cover it up anyways so in his isolated paranoia he can never be sure even the worst of what he does matters. He could kill someone and no one would notice and that's even worse). All that said, taking total delusion to be the case, you don't just routinely daydream of murdering the women you fuck if that's not part of your sexual desire. Again, none of this is to call Patrick some limp-dicked prancing la la homo boy, but I'm saying this guy is a fucking wreck and is also having homosexual conflict in all this. Or what is Luis Carruthers about?!

>>223213441
its actually about a narcisisstic, spiritually empty yuppie. Just watch the movie next time.

>>223215439
Who also has conflicted homosexual experiences. Pay attention.
Because that's the thing, right? 'narcissistic, spiritually empty yuppie' could never ever ever ever ever ever have anything to do with gay contact, could it? Even on screen in the men's bathroom with the gay man?

>>223215406
The director came out and explicitly stated that he definitely does kill people, just to silence you insipid, genuinely media illiterate "it was all in his head!" morons. what was the point of ANYTHING that happened in the movie, if all of it was in his head? the whole point of it is the commentary on the society he's in, that he can blend so seamlessly into it despite being a mass-murdering psychopath. get your fucking shit together you low iq fucking cretins.

>>223215486
what faggot wouldn’t hit on prime bale in nyc

>>223215486
i Will never understand the significance you guys give to homosexual urges. Men are omnisexual creatures, we fuck literally everything, the only limiting factor are mental blockades we create through experiences and empathy.

What does it really matter if Patrick Bateman would not just be a psychologically troubled serial killer but would also be willing to suck off dudes? He is an unhinged person who obviously doesnt really care about social rules in the first place.

>>223213441
sounds like you went to yale

>>223215545
He just wants the thing chuds like to be invalid by his projection of their ideology
It’s Reddit gotcha poison pill mentality
Like how they think it’s an own to say we can’t say red pill or blue pill because the wachowskis trooned out

>>223215510
You understand I have willfully made no committed statement to whether or not he killed anyone, and I was only provoked into giving what limited interpretation I have because someone popped out and said 'YOU THINK HE KILLED ANYONE!!!!' when I said 'Patrick displays closeted gay violence'. That being said...
>the whole point of it is the commentary on the society he's in, that he can blend so seamlessly into it despite being a mass-murdering psychopath
I agree here totally, yet
> what was the point of ANYTHING that happened in the movie, if all of it was in his head
Both apply. The society is so fucked his murderous craziness is tolerated, but also the effect of that being the case, is that his actions and thoughts are one in the same for having no impact or meaning, and so real murder is indistinguishable from delusional murder and vice-versa, and this world is it's own lonely hell both ways.

>>223215510
they should all be killed by bateman lookalikes.
it's every fucking thread, the same mindless "it's all a dream" faggots.
>blade runner - he's a wobot!
>total recall - it's all a dweam!
>american psycho - it's all in his head!

>>223215545
>i Will never understand the significance you guys give to homosexual urges.
I don't give it any extra significance
>Men are omnisexual creatures, we fuck literally everything, the only limiting factor are mental blockades we create through experiences and empathy.
Right, which sometimes lead to homosexual conflicts especially in psychological thriller movies where a sexual killer hesitates to kill a gay man after his attempt to murder him is interpreted as a sexual proposition.
>What does it really matter if Patrick Bateman would not just be a psychologically troubled serial killer but would also be willing to suck off dudes
Did I say he would also be willing to suck off dudes? That he should be waving a fag flag? Patrick's psychosis includes confused gay events. That's it.

>>223215605
>>223215510
>fucking rubes who think it has to be one way or the other
What do you think a fucking book or movie is, a documentary? It's art you fucking retards, you have no idea what can be done with a word. 'Oh whats the metaphor?!' YOU DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME AND IT MEANS BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

>>223215690
cope plebbit npc

>>223215724
Dude you have no idea what you're not getting here

>>223213441
They made a movie about you?

>>223215545
>this is what closet homos genuinely believe

>>223215545
>we fuck literally everything
Like, men?

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I thought it was about a good-looking guy who dresses in fancy suits, has a cushy do-nothing job, gets all the ladies and does whatever he wants.

>>223215779
don't call me dude, pal

>>223215840
I'm not your pal, nigger

>>223214118
because sexual desire is the motivation for everything else a person does in life

>>223215859
oooo he's not gonna like that

>>223215857
I'm not a nigger, guy

missed opportunity not to feature any gay musicians/artists in the film

>>223215907
I'm not your guy, faggot

The word homosexual doesn't mean anything is a retarded modern western construct created by women to control men.

>>223215963
pff, that's stupid. it's a genetic defect, same as down syndrome. that's why you can recognize a gay by their voice, mannerisms, or even face, it's physical.

>>223215510
Exactly they are all so self-absorbed they can even detect an obvious complete psychopaths amount them. If you are intelligent enough you can see throw every character in the film.

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>>223215439
>>223215486
It's deeper than that, though. Bateman's not supposed to be a normal yuppie. He's an inconceivably wealthy old-money creature. This is only hinted at--his father's power and wealth which are way beyond the generic white-boy finance-major assholes he hangs with--but it's a super-important hint to understanding the book.

Bateman is obsessed with "fitting in" and being a person but he has no idea what a person is. His descriptions of clothes and music (which are intentionally ridiculous, Ellis says) are his perception of the culture around him.

The people he hangs with aren't Bateman, he's a singular creature in this book, and he's trying to fit into an empty culture and the verbal diarrhea is his only way of grasping it. The old-money wealthy lifestyle doesn't work for him so he's trying the consumption-driven-asshole lifestyle because it's the closest thing he can find to what a person is, what a life is. The only other alternative is the life of the poor/homeless/prostitutes which utterly repulse him. When none of these options satisfy him, over time, you see the cracks and that's where the violence comes in. (Unlike in the movie, it's very obvious in the book that the violence is not real, it's just cartoonish nonsense.)

The point is he can't find an exit (see the final paragraph). Culture is all there is. Even the violent fantasies, being as inhuman as possible, don't let him escape from the soul-crushing drudgery of having to embrace society in one way or another.

American Psycho is not about "wealth makes you a dirtbag", it's "we all barely exist as individuals because we can only exist through society or as a reaction to society". The criticism of corporate/finance types is just part of it because of the era the book was written in. It's not the real point of the book.

The movie misses all of this, by the way, and just treats it as a black comedy, which is totally fine.

>>223215963
See that's smart thinking, but I'd like you to take a second look after that. So where 'homosexual' doesn't mean anything, and means nothing it means now, we can put it back together from Latin, 'sex with the same gender' and ignoring aaaaall social or political or identitarian implications, recognize when a cocked organism is sexually reactive to another

>>223216000
Right.
At least its not Naked Lunch (1993)

>be cable guy
>installing internet for some old guy
>I'm hunched over in the corner of his living room watching lights flash on a modem
>out of nowhere he asks me "do you like Huey Lewis and the News?"
>I freeze
>slowly turn around to look at him
>"y-yeah they're great!"
>he just goes on to tell me he was Huey's roommate in college
>with a sigh of relief I say "haha I thought you were about to kill me with an axe"
>he just gives me this look of fear and disgust
>too autistic to try to explain so I just say I have to take a phone call and walk out of the room with my phone against my ear

>>223215984
They mimic the horrible cunt mother most homosexuals have. Toxic females who degrade males turn their sons feminine and confuse them.

>>223216040
barking up the wrong tree

>>223213441
Yes I've read the book

>>223216040
I don't disagree with this at all, and find it to be directly expressed in first-person by queer literature authors (see, 'Queer', the autobiography)

>>223213441
The broadway musical version is better imo. Was excited to hear its coming back next january.

I'm not kidding I'm going to crack the gay code in my lifetime and you prudes will never get the formula in time

>>223213441

Straight serial killers mostly kill women. If Patrick Bateman was actually gay, he would only kill male victims. This is why Hollywood writers usually kill male serial killers or men in their shows, because many of them are either gay or left leaning and do gay stuff when heavily intoxicated when partying on the weekends at a nightclub or bar like they are still in college.

>>223216328
Sexually motivated ones yes but those are quite small group within serial killers.

Or you could just imagine murdering the prostitutes you fuck after fucking them because you hate women, while having a supersexual desire for human connection that leaves you stunned in the men's bathroom as a gay man displays no shame towards the things you are ashamed about yourself. Could even use two characters, one female and one male, with the same hair color, to show this desire for real human intimacy both supersedes gender and could be embraced in either gender

>>223215001
A boomer co-worker told me that Starship Troopers was a bad movie that was just all special effects and zero depths that just had a bunch of no-name actors(at that time) in it.

>>223216520
the guy I worked with hated it because he said it was an insult to the book

>>223215873
It's fake news

>>223214978
aka being gay

Something about seeing two actors on screen ruins the effect of the same character talking to himself in text.

>>223214899
>dubs of truth
>>223214999
>C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!!

>>223215929
I'm not your faggot, fren

>>223216038
hahaha

>>223213441
I dunno. Didn't watch it. A woman made it so it's on my shitlist.

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>>223213441
>>223213476
>>223214155
>>223214134
Op is a fag regardless of dubs

>>223213441
So it's a movie about you, OP?

>>223213441
he's literally you

>>223213441
bateman didn't kill the gay guy because he was so disgusted not cause he had feelings for him

I JUST WANT TO FIT IN

>>223213468
kek

>>223215562
Who the fuck likes Patrick Bateman?

>>223213441
It's more like about just an oblivious homosexual but yeah.

>>223213441
Of course.

>>223215830
Without morals, society, a significant intellect, self-reflection and a conscious mind?

Yeah most men would also fuck men if given the chance. Basically every social animal tends to hump whatever it can.

>>223219728
Literally everyone but like 99 percent of the time for the wrong reason.

>>223219749
Dumbass.

>>223219904
Degenerate