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Were women really like this back in that era?
What happened to them since then??
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Like what?
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>>223216009
It's amazing what a little bit of social stigma and shaming can accomplish, and that's why it's the first thing the Devil tries to get rid of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnPE8u5ONls
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>>223216009
Like what? You wonder whether they looked like Grace Kelly? No, they didn't.
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>>223216009
too skinny imo. She is probably around 90lbs here
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Women used to be so good bro
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>>223216083
oh no
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>>223216089
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>223216124
They used to be fit and chaste and no tats
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>here's this supermodel actress, starring in a movie directed by Catholic Hitchcock
Yes, anon. All women were like that.
>>223216136
>They used to be fit and chaste
LMAO
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>>223216009
No, most of them were like this.
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>>223216042
Beautiful, loyal, caring, kind, loving etc.
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Obviously society was more orderly back then, and people couldn't engage as much and openly in depravity, but come the fuck on.
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>>223216042
Oh and modest, humble, considerate, glamorous, etc.
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>>223216186
Why not work to be someone worth being loved and cared for? You just expect women to do all the work while you do nothing, pathetic ass nigga
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in the 90s this actress was considered comically ugly

https://youtu.be/KmCL0t_qbks
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>>223216009
>What happened to them since then??
People complain a lot about the feminization of society but they forget that women have been collectively masculinized to a horrifying extent.

Generations of girls have been encouraged to be more aggressive, confident, assertive, and ambitious, especially if that means tearing down men. They increasingly want to compete with men in all spheres and demand assistance from the state when they're out-performed.

Their aesthetic sensibility is completely atrocious. Women now only conceive of their attractiveness in terms of raw fuckability, putting themselves on the level of pornstars, and disdain even the idea that their beauty can point towards something more transcendent, subtle, even divine, which is how the best of women in the past were.

They're just men with vaginas. They're now crass, gross, loud, arrogant, smelly, and selfish. To like modern women you have to be a little gay.
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>>223216202
>women suck today
>it's mens' fault!!!
Ok dude
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>>223216186
So true, anon. Bibi Netanyahu is the reason you can't get over whatever gay, socially retarding trauma you're harboring, amirite?
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>>223216202
Im working on a time machine man dont worry
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>>223216009
She was a dime in any era obviously but also, yes, women were way more feminine. You can see it in film and photos from earlier eras. White pill: if a good woman loves you like in this story, she will be really nice to you like that.
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>>223216229
I don't think women suck today. On the contrary, I think you suck, and good women don't want to be with shitty guys, sorry.
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>>223216229
I get where he's coming from. Crying online about being bitchless hardly seems like a quality worth rewarding. Needy suckers don't deserve women.
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>>223216270
Mmkay male feminist. Nice Reddit writing style.
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>>223216270
>>223216278
When the sexual frustration kicks in
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>>223216009
>marry me
>oh I just don’t know I like the casual sex arrangement we have
Even in 1950, it was unbelievable that the hottest woman of all time would settle for this slob. Also the last shot needed to have a ring on her finger for the story to come full circle. Pretty sure it was supposed to because it’s otherwise a pointless final shot.
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>>223216202
I like how anon describes personality traits and you interpret that as "work". As though being loyal and caring is a fucking job.

Your entire post encapsulates why the situation is a disaster. You make love contingent and transactional and then act confused when men romanticize a past where more was offered and less demanded.
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>>223216255
>>223216270
>>223216278
>NOOOO HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE WOMEN!!! THEY ARE PERFECT ANGELS YOU NAZI BIGOT!!!
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>>223216009
Feminism
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>>223216210
Quality post.
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he also told that ugly bitch to fuck off in Vertigo
what an all time mentally ill chad
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>>223216289
Uhh, projection much? LMAO
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>>223216009
Grace is German nobility through her great great grandfather Johann Christian von Majer of the Kingdom of Württemberg, 1808. Americans don't really understand this but it's very easy to tell the difference between commoners and aristocracy by their manners and behavior.

To answer your question, nobility is very rare but most of them do act dignified and elevated.
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>"waaah, women are such degenerate whores!"
>jacks off to tranny porn
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>>223216300
Women are gatekeeping the pussies, anon. If you want in, whining ain't gonna cut it. And no, those things aren't simple personality traits, they're are acts of love which require work.
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>>223216321
When the sexual frustration peaks
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>>223216283
>>223216289
Not arguments
>>223216300
He didn't describe general personality traits, he described how she treats him. She wouldn't and in fact in the movie does not treat everyone the same. If you want to be loved by a woman like that, you better have virtues and traits worth someone wanting to spend their entire life with, and no, that isn't transactional'. Because if you want to be that pedantic about it, then literally everything in every concievable context is 'transactional'.
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>>223216395
Diary mode, eh?
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>>223216352
post feet
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>>223216009
It's nuts to me chuds and incels have deluced themzelves into believing that if they had just been born in the right generation they'd have a wife and kids right now, as if anything has really changed. Meh, whatever helps them not kill themselves I guess.
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>>223216042
Not being trash like modern Western women are
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>>223216441
You just don't see the classy ones because they stayed with their hs sweethearts and don't actively use socials. The girls who are most active on socials are whores but they aren't a good barometer for women at large.
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>"waaah, I deserve a woman to enter a binding social contract with me and love me unconditionally!"
>cries on incel forum while jacking off to tranny porn
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>>223216459
This is the issue really: 4chan users are terminally online so their worldview is skewed by socials. They think that's reality but it is not. It's actually the outliar
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>>223216393
If being something is an act then you're not innately that thing. You're confusing being a caring person with demonstrating your caring through acts. The latter might require work but the former doesn't.

Anon is commenting on the soul of women as a whole and you people can only interpret that in the most shallow transactional way possible.

I know for a fact you're not this much of a soulless gremlin about your own mother, whose love and kindness you would be horrified to learn was contingent upon your success at school or in your career or something else. Motherhood is the only bastion of true femininity left and it's already steadily being corrupted now that women are politically mobilized by a yearning to slaughter their own children.
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>>223216436
>you don’t want a relationship like webm related?
>you’re le thinktank-created mean buzzwords!!!
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>>223216300
Actually being a better person does require work. Why do you think most people are shitty now? Because society has become a breeding ground for convenience and laziness
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these were desperate lonely women looking for men in 1960
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>>223216404
>He didn't describe general personality traits

He did
OP: Were women really like this?
Anon 1: Like what?
Anon 2: Loyal, caring, kind, loving, modest, humble, considerate

The majority of what he mentions are personality traits or even virtues. The only things that aren't are things like beauty.

>If you want to be loved by a woman like that, you better have virtues and traits worth someone wanting to spend their entire life with
Nobody is saying men shouldn't be virtuous you faggot.
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>>223216416
When the sexual frustration is self satisified
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>>223216484
I personally wouldn't want my relationship to require a 'partner summit' but they clearly love eachother and are kind of cute. And regardless of what you think of their relationship, here's the reality: they go to bed together every night, while you go to bed alone.
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>>223216436
Some of them surely would. Fewer broken homes, fewer options for partners, and women were more financially dependent. That being said, there's something tragic if not outright dysgenic about those fuckups getting to breed only because of highly favorable circumstances.
>>223216472
>being a loving person doesn't require work
Ah, yes. You're such a good person, anon, aren't you?
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>>223216523
The virtues women today want men to have is to not leave her when she cheats or emotionally abuses him
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>>223216495
It's only work because women aren't innately feminine which is the entire point of the discussion. They have been stripped of all feminine virtues and now it appears like "work" to become that which they should have been all along.

But this is also totally ridiculous. Imagine the most emasculated man in all existence who then complains "Oh? You want me to do the work of being a real man? Huh, you better give me some incentives!"
For some reason this is tolerated in the case of women but the degenerate man is rightly attacked and rejected without question.
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>>223216549
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>>223216484
>>223216549
If he wanted something more dignified, he could get rid of the terrible posture, the belly, and the redditor look.
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>>223216556
If she's looking for side cock then the guy she with ain't waxing that right, full fucking stop.
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>>223216549
She left him became a lesbian and he killed himself btw
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>>223216459
>>223216470
Uh yea they are but you don’t get out to see it, you can stop larping like you go anywhere to get a sense of how women are now. Thing is, it’s kinda been the same like this for decades but social media of course magnifies it now
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>>223216591
Adulterers should be stoned to death. Societies in the past knew this.
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>>223216552
No I'm not a good person, like all modern men I am also degenerated and weak, but I know it's my own personal duty to get better and to try and staunch the corrupting tide.

I don't wade into discussions where people rightly point out our degeneration to demand other people improve themselves before I do. Even if women degenerated further (which they will) I would still try to make myself better because that is its own reward.
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>>223216549
>they clearly love eachother
Are you retarded or what
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>>223216577
>They have been stripped of all feminine virtues and now it appears like "work" to become that which they should have been all along.
A lot of women dress down and don't put as much effort in today because if they look pretty creepos like you hit on and annoy them. I worked with troubled youth at my church for years and 9 out of 10 girls dyed and cut their hair, got tattoos, and started dressing weird because they said being 'pretty' had a bunch of guys hitting on them and overstepping bounds with them. Some were raped. You get the idea. But none said the media made them think it was okay. None brought that up.
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Can someone tell me the marriage rates in the 1950s versus late 2020s? Thanks
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>>223216615
Nah I work two jobs and I basically am only home to sleep or change for my next job, and there are hot girly bitches walking around everywhere anon.
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>>223216586
So gross and performative.
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>>223216666
We were more Christian in the 50s. No one is Christian today. The irony is all these 4/chuds/ calling for a return to 'American values' don't realize that it was really Christian ethic and value that made America great.
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>>223216654
Maybe they should stop voting to import third worlders then
Oh wait they won't and they'll just keep chanting "fuck ICE!"
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>>223216611
Tragic, but how did he think this reddit chungus shit wasn't absolutely repellent? Obviously don't be a steroid freak Roganite LARPER, but don't ever go full insectoid numale mode.
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>>223216042
not nigger worshipping slaves to social media who hate their fathers and their brothers and their looksmatched racematched potential mates
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>>223216703
He just didn't want to be an incel chud
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>>223216702
Holy /pol/ brainwashed. Do you have original thoughts or is it all just culture war rhetoric? Genuinely curious.
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>>223216124
>>223216162
>>223216184
>>223216202
>>223216255
>NOOOO HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE WOMEN!!! THEY ARE PERFECT ANGELS YOU NAZI BIGOT!!!
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>>223216714
>don't want to be catcalled
>don't import people from societies that catcall
Why does this make you upset?
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>>223216202
>dude just improooooove while dark triad chad rapes and kills women and gets love letters in prison
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>>223216319
Can't wait for the remake with RDJ
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>>223216278
>>223216393
>>223216404
>>223216436
>>223216470
>NOOOO HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE WOMEN!!! THEY ARE PERFECT ANGELS YOU NAZI BIGOT!!!
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>>223216737
Grim
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>>223216270
>I don't think women suck today
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>>223216495
>>223216549
>>223216552
>>223216654
>>223216672
>NOOOO HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE WOMEN!!! THEY ARE PERFECT ANGELS YOU NAZI BIGOT!!!
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>>223216761
Leos don't kill their cubs.
Geminis like her husband though..?
(btw tRump is a Gemini too)
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>>223216712
Could've just gone for functional. Both numale and chud are retarded identities.
>>223216735
Literally fake. Number of average sexual partners has gone down a good bit, and the 10% of men that are "getting all the women" are all fucking the same couple percent of women. You are a pornbrained retard.
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>>223216654
This has almost nothing to do with the concept of feminine virtues. A woman can still be feminine even if she has dyed her hair. Hair dying is just a harmless fashion statement. Hell, the interest in alternative girls is probably driven in part by the observation that sometimes those girls are the most feminine and caring, because mainstream society punishes feminine women and demands masculinization as part of growing up.
>Some were raped.
Most weren't and I hate how any criticism of female behavior gets linked to male abuse as though every woman under the sun is living in a permanent trauma response to rape.
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the posts defending women itt are insanely toxic and delusional
>>223216787
you're the same loser who copes in all of these threads
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>>223216787
Incoherent bot post. The sentences don't gel together.
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>>223216811
it makes sense if you see it as somebody just trying to avoid declining standards for women
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>>223216796
Good incel. Keep crying. Never face reality. Don't break your narcissistic delusion. You are not a fault for any of your fuckups.
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>>223216829
no its true all you do is cope for women at their worst theyve ever been
shaming men for saying things that are true isnt a solution you're literally a coping moron
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>>223216811
Maybe take a literacy test.
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>>223216847
or you could actually make a good post that isnt
>NOOOO HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE WOMEN!!! THEY ARE PERFECT ANGELS YOU NAZI BIGOT!!!
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>>223216829
>incel
Ahhh the classic retort from the simp brigade!! Yes yes well done. Say it again why don't you? We haven't heard it enough these last TEN FUCKING YEARS.

There's an IQ floor on being able to read between the lines, so you won't be able to realize this but your own post is saying you unironically attribute value and meaning to the ability to acquire sex.

But you're obviously not a woman so you let women determine all your value as a person.

What spawns a cretin so desperate to disempower himself and to raise up women?
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>>223216666
The standard crude marriage rate is the number of marriages performed in a year per 1,000 people.

Year Marriages per 1,000 population
1950 9.1
1951 9.2
1955 8.2
1959 7.6
2019 3.9
2020 2.6*
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>>223216835
If you want unfucked whatever you consider fucked, it will be up to men to unfuck it, and it won't get unfucked through crying or deluding yourself. Face reality, pussy.
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>>223216847
>Literally fake. Number of average sexual partners has gone down a good bit, and the 10% of men that are "getting all the women" are all fucking the same couple percent of women. You are a pornbrained retard.
How is any of this a coherent response to the phenomenon of hybristophilia and the fact that most male abusers have no problem getting laid?
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i used to watch a psychology youtuber who made great points about modern dating and sex dynamics but he got blackmailed by the cia and now all of his videos are like the feminist itt defending women at their worst by saying its all mens fault
he must have been recorded fucking a underage or something
>>223216872
another lame shaming attempt defending women at their worst
you are the problem
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>>223216884
>not schizo at all
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this faggot must get paid every time he pretends women aren't enabled spoiled retards nowadays
no its not my fault that boomers and jews allowed this to happen
no i will not hate myself for it for nothing in return
you are a retarded kike slave cs joseph and you are being blackmailed by that kike yuri scarzinski into defending roasties
>>223216905
your channel sucks now and you have nothing to offer but limp dick shaming
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>>223216829
>It's YOUR fault modern women suck!
?
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>>223216874
Largely irrelevant phenomenon, so I went for the more relevant, related meme.
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>>223216916
the shaming will continue until china nukes us i guess lol
they somehow think henpecking will make women unfucked
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>>223216871
Thanks feminism!!
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Hats off to the master baiter itt cause you just don’t see good bait anymore ya know
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>>223216931
>things i can't deny are irrelevant
you need to go back to gaslighting school and get your parents money back
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>>223216692
There's plenty of Christians today and they have higher birth rates than average.
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>>223216692
Weird how did all those christians in the 1950s lose the plot so hard where no one is christian now?
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>>223216186
It's a movie
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>>223216868
If you consider breeding or having a partner valuable, then you have to get through the pussy gatekeeping. I personally don't care for "anonymous" sex nor do I believe female judgement of character is remotely flawless. What I'm trying to do here is raise you up, but you, in your endless self-pity, are unreceptive.
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>>223216829
How is it the fault of men when women have achieved every political goal they have set their mind to since the 1960s?

We now have mass third world migration just so women can get their hands on BBC to have a fun Saturday night.

The whole society is at their whim. So how is it OUR fault?
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>>223216967
based on the times it was made in
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>>223216829
>>223216495
>>223216270
>>223216202
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>>223216969
pussy gate keeping isnt the same now as it was then
your framing is invalid and your tone is unearned
nothing you have said has any merit anon
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>>223216972
because blaming you is an easy way out of having to make an effort to fix anything
he wants to waste mens time by redirecting energy
hes evil
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>>223216969
Sorry bro but unless you got 4 kids and a white wife I got nothing to learn from you
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>>223216993
he only fucks fat gooks and has mutt kids he doesnt raise
he calls himself polyamorous lol
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>>223216974
To a point, but a woman that attractive would have been an entitled bitch in any period.
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>>223216943
How is the relatively small percentage of violent men relevant? No one claims women have perfect partnership senses. And if you can't find a proper set of qualities inside yourself to compete with low-IQ troglodytes, maybe you deserve being a seething incel.
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>>223217014
nothing like today
there is no comparison to be made
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>>223216009
Grace Kelly is such a boring NPC choice for "prettiest actress". Raving about her is a sure sign you have watched like 3 movies made before 1980 and have absolutely no personality.
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>>223217016
wow a just world fallacy post reeking of bitterness and projection who would of thought
>NOOOO HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE WOMEN!!! THEY ARE PERFECT ANGELS YOU NAZI BIGOT!!!
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>>223217025
nah she really was beautiful
you probably think zendaya is hot because it makes people nod their heads
thats not truth its sniffing a fart and pretending it didnt come from your ass
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>>223216969
Have you considered how pussy gatekeeping changes in a society where:
>women now enter the workforce as much as men
>women are now attending college far more than men
>women benefit from a bevy of social programs intended to increase their participation in the workforce and education despite having already achieved parity
>women in younger age groups now out-earn men the same age
>women can match with men anywhere on Earth through dating apps

You can't have a society where men and women are forced to be equal while also having a dating culture that demands men be superior to women
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>>223216983
Sure. Lots of bums getting filtered now.
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>>223216083
I'm sorry she doesn't have a gigantic ass Tyrone.
She's hot.
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>>223217016
Why do you default to blaming the men in these scenarios?
Isn't it possible that Becky simply prefers the low-IQ, low-impulse black thug that makes her cum over the intellectual?
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Total incel incarceration can't commence soon enough.
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>>223217019
There is absolutely. Women have always been women. It's just that lately it spread to all women.
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>>223217045
not really
women arent optimizing for quality they are optimized for quantity
the results speak for themselves
your excuses and fake celebrations are a death rattle
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>>223216184
>not fat and no tats
Even the nurse is perfect.
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>>223217070
nope they never had this climate or programming
women are like computers
they have had their programming updated poorly
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>>223217025
You’re right but she’s still more attractive than any modern major actress
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>>223217066
two more weeks lindsay clancey retard
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>>223217066
>incel
OH BRAVO. They did it again! The simp squad unveiled their linguistic Death Star.

Now watch you swap towards "im just trying to help you :)" even as you use pejoratives and belittle us sexually.

Btw I like how you monsters are soooo concerned with female sexual trauma as though bullying a person sexually somehow ceases to be traumatic when they're male.
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>>223216586
>Step 1: Collect evidence
LOL
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>ITT: unironic incels making excuses for their inability to achieve anything by accusing others of making excuses for women
What a mess. It's good you aren't procreating.
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>>223217117
i have two white kids
the only one making excuses is you
women have never been worse
its not zoomers or millenials faults
nothing you have said has had any merit or solution
you are a henpecking moron
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>>223217090
Stop whining, you wimpy bitch.
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>>223217147
>impotence
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>hurr you must think Zendaya is hot if you dont agree with me
Proving my point immediately.
The generic blonde barbie doll look does nothing for me, her face has no character or charm and she always came across as a cold, manipulative, snooty WASP bitch. Despite being a gigantic whore IRL she was utterly unconvincing trying to be erotic on film. Pic related mogged the fuck out of her in To Catch A Thief btw.
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>bro just marry this bro, you wouldn't want to be an incel chuddy would you?
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>>223217147
Why? I'm allowed to be upset with the way things are. If I was a woman bemoaning the fact I was a femcel then you would support me.

>>223217117
Show me where an excuse was made. I'm just pointing out women aren't feminine and that their mate selection is degenerate.

Being an incel in a dating market like this is practically a stamp of virtue as women mate select for violent groids and other subhumans.
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>>223217117
>Sharty zoomer using jewish d&c tricks while being ironically completely sexless
lol
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>>223217171
sorry you just sound like a woman or somebody with low test
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>>223217137
Maybe focus on your two white children and your wife instead of crying about incel shit on the internet then.
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Feminists need you to believe women never got worse. If women never changed, then every problem is your fault and the only fix is you “doing better.” Doing better never means she has to pick, stay, or tell the truth. It means you shut up and keep playing her game.
Women did change. Not into demons. Into people who are allowed to be greedy and still called strong. They can keep five guys warm, stay vague, fuck the friend, and act like that’s standards. When a man points at that, they don’t defend the behavior. They attack him for seeing it.
“Women have always been like this” is the cover story. It turns a new excuse system into ancient nature. Selfishness isn’t new. What’s new is the rulebook that says her selfishness is empowerment and your eyes are hate.
That’s why “just improve” is a scam. Improve would mean two people acting better. Their version means one person swallowing it. You lift, you pay, you guess, you don’t ask her to close the other tabs. She keeps the buffet. You get the lecture.
They police the history because the present is ugly. If nothing changed, they wouldn’t need a whole language to call noticing “incel.” They need that language so women can keep getting worse while men are told the only moral move is to clap.
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>>223217171
Alfred Hitchcock had great taste in ladies.
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>>223217196
why would i do what some moron whos wrong about everything wants to the detriment of everything good in life?
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>>223217196
>p-please leave the thread so i can pretend its just a bunch of incels T_T
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>>223217196
Stop whining, you wimpy bitch.
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Okay, whatever. Keep crying, suckers. Surely that will do the trick LMAO
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>>223217231
How much are you going to cry when your demonic empresses begin bitching that we've rejected them after being rejected all our lives?
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>>223217231
yeah our text online is evil and yours is sacred because uhhhh REASONS!!!
go make another video at gunpoint blaming men for lindsay clancey you child molesting retard
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>>223217077
More women than ever are entitled whores? Sure.
But are women fundamentally different from then? No, not at all.
A woman that kind and attractive is a thing of fiction. Because to be that attractive irl means getting constant male attention, which makes her unkind. And constant male attention is precisely the thing that social media has facilitated to women at large.
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>>223217249
You’re not making a point. You’re writing women a hall pass and calling it biology.
“More women than ever are entitled whores? Sure.” Then you hit undo. If the product got worse, something changed. You don’t get to admit the flood and then say the dam is the same. That’s feminist accounting.
“Kind and attractive is fiction” is cope. Attractive women were decent when being a whore cost them something. Town, church, family, reputation. Attention existed. It didn’t come with a priestess class telling her that farming 400 thirsty men is empowerment and that the man who wants a closed door is a bum.
Social media didn’t “reveal” women. It paid the worst ones. Infinite orbiters, zero reputation, screenshots instead of witnesses. Feminism then moralized the payout: vagueness is safety, optionality is standards, loyalty is unpaid labor, noticing is hate. That’s not eternal female nature. That’s a subsidy.
Your line is the whole scam in one paragraph. Women get worse “always been like this” men must adapt adapting means eating the new rules and clapping. You even smuggle in the just-world bit: if she’s hot she must be cruel, so don’t expect anything. Convenient. Then she never has to be better, and you get to feel smart for lowering the bar.
If nothing fundamental changed, shut up about social media. If social media changed the payoff, stop pretending 2026 is just 1955 with better lighting. The phone turned male attention into a job. Feminism turned the job into a virtue. You’re not describing women. You’re defending the union.
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his name is cs joseph and hes a manlet whos never got with a white woman and now hes making anti red pill videos by kike gunpoint lol look him up
he was recorded fucking kids and is now doing a 180 in exchange for not being exposed
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>>223217271
You're wrong btw.
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i can't tell if this one guy is trolling.

but 'in character' it's weird to say
>uhhh you're just being rancid, ENJOY YOUR PORN LOSERS
...aren't you then also being cruel to others? the anons made their points pretty reasonably.

what happened to the Reddit motto of:
>Come for the cats...stay for the empathy!
?
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>>223217245
>pic
Modern women HATE this
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>>223217296
wow i didnt think it was possible to disappoint me further but you did it chase
you really do suck
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>>223217299
its how you know somebody is wrong
if he had a solution he would give it
instead he offers fruitless botlike shaming
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>>223217245
>lindsay clancey
Clancy obviously belongs locked away forever or death penaltied. The whole retarded debate is a fascinating example of social media induced mass psychosis, probably building upon "reproductive rights." AKA: The rare case I'm completely fine with you incels chudding out because at least it serves a specific and timely purpose.
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>>223217328
i literally have two kids im not an incel
the whole thing is probably fucking ai meant to further the birth rate dropping
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>>223217328
Anyone that says chud or incel deserves to be flat out ignored regardless of the actual opinion.
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>>223217299
In practice, empathy becomes bias and partiality based on shared characteristics. Like the Lindsay Clancy thing. Few people are able to be equally empathetic to both sides of a conflict.

Redditors are just good at pretending like they're empathetic. On that AITA subreddit they will make gestures towards seeing things from the man's perspective but they never go quite as far as they do with the women.
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>>223217365
theres just literally no reason to pretend women arent at their worst and that shaming men wont help but here we are
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>>223217350
Or just don't be an incel chud, as I've been telling you throughout this whole entire thread. Stop identifying with those shitty identities, stop falling for memes, and, for the love of anything good, stop whining when there's time to be spent usefully.
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>>223217299
>...aren't you then also being cruel to others?
Tough love.
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>>223217395
>>223217415
That’s not tough love. Tough love names the wound and charges both sides. You’re naming me and handing me a nap.
Your whole program is wilful ignorance plus self-blame. Stop seeing the buffet. Stop seeing the fog. Stop seeing the phone-harem. If pairing died, it must be my “identity,” not the woman who can keep ten tabs open and still get called the prize. That’s a dress code, not a plan.
Birth rates are not falling because some guy on a board noticed the product got worse. They’re falling because people stopped binding. Women can run a buffet, men get told a closed door is entitlement, and your official fix is “stop identifying with the slur I just hit you with.” That’s a priest telling the church to pray harder while the roof leaks.
If noticing were the cause, Japan, Korea, Italy, and every high-app city would be drowning in babies the minute men logged off. They’re not. The men who “spent time usefully” still can’t get a yes that lasts a week. The women you say are filtering bums still won’t pick. You don’t fix that by calling the observer a meme.
You keep saying that’s why we’re incels. No. That’s why you need the word. Without it you’d have to explain how shaming the men who can still see makes women choose, stay, and speak English. It doesn’t. It keeps the buffet legal. Whining would be demanding a trophy. This is pointing at an empty store and being told the customers are the problem for having eyes. Put a female half on the table or admit you’re just the hall monitor.
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>>223217395
>incel chud
I'm so fucking sick of hearing this every time I voice a reasonable objection.
There's just no point
I don't want to use any site with women and their simp defenders
You're all so cruel and mean spirited
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>>223217453
If the ticket is complicity, the market is already the confession.
A healthy pairing market pays a man for being useful, honest, and hard to replace. This one pays him for eating the fog. Laugh at the buffet. Call it “her standards.” Don’t ask her to pick. Don’t notice the other guy. Treat vagueness like depth. That’s not charm. That’s the cover charge.
So when someone says “that’s just how you get laid,” they’re not teaching game. They’re admitting the product is so rotten that the buyer has to fake respect for the rot to be allowed near it. If telling the truth is what makes you unfuckable, the women doing the fucking are not selecting for men. They’re selecting for staff.
That’s why the situation is fucked. The reward is attached to silence, not to binding. The man who wants a door closed is “entitled.” The man who holds the door open for the line is “normal.” Of course birth rates fall. You trained the yes to go to the guy who won’t name the booth, then called the guy with eyes the problem. Complicity getting laid doesn’t refute the critique. It is the critique.
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They can’t tell you how yelling at men for noticing fixes anything because it doesn’t.
Nagging the guy who sees the buffet does not make her pick. It does not make her drop the other five. It does not make her say yes like an adult. It just trains him to eat shit so she can keep the line.
That’s the whole program. You shut up, she stays a whore with a union card, and they call that “working on yourself.”
If it worked they’d have one sentence: “When he stops noticing, she does this, and then people actually pair up.” They never have the second half. Just “incel,” “chud,” “stop whining.” That’s not a plan. That’s a muzzle.
Shaming the observer is not medicine. It’s how you keep a broken store open and blame the customer for reading the prices.
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Faggot is just shamelessly getting AI assistance with his bait now. Threads over
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>>223217467
>this one
Nigga talking like an Elder Scrolls khajiit now
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>>223217515
i accept your concession
go get your cia kike to write you some new insults chase
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>>223216468
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>>223216672
make sure to be a good obedient slave and lick your "hot" mommy's dildo and feet while you work and pay for everything, loser.
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>>223217415
nah. >>223217443 put it better (eerily fast response though, might actually be a chatbot.)

i'm not an incel and i don't agree with their 'philosophy', but you've quite correctly identified they feel frustrated, and they'll tell you as much. they are self-aware.

i hate that we have to ignore or outright make fun of real problems because a few people in that same camp are dicks. it really is a lose-lose. i can type all the same shit you're telling these incels, and probably so could they. watch me go, anon!

>Just be respectful. That's all women are asking for. You beleive you're entitled to love, but that's not the case. You don't have to 'be Chad', and if you look around you, you'll notice even 'sub-8 males' are in relationships with good-looking women. Not that looks are all that matter: of course they are a factor, but you have hyperfocused on this and you are using cultural changes as a mere cope, which is why you masturbate into tissues while I get to post smugly from behind my screen at what a loser meanie-pants jerkface you are!

see? ez. what's more difficult is accepting there HAVE been cultural changes, because culture changes all the time (particularly with regard to gender). women have every right not to face abuse, men have every right to feel upset.

10-20 years ago, you'd be the same type of guy telling dudes 'it's OKAY for men to have/talk about their feelings!'
this is men doing that.
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>>223217395
>as I've been telling you throughout this whole entire thread
That was the first time I ever replied to you.
Kill yourself faggot.
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>>223217606
f respect rebuilt families, the most lectured countries wouldn’t be dying. They are.

You’re not the reasonable middle. You’re the same lecture with a polite hat.
“I’m not an incel” is just so you can say men are mad, then tell them to shut up the same way: be nice, you’re not owed a girl, some ugly guys get laid, culture changes, stop coping.
Nobody said women should get beaten. They said “don’t hit women” got turned into “don’t notice she’s running a lineup and don’t want her to pick.” You hid the buffet behind “safety.”
Culture changing is not a defense when only one side dropped their half. She can keep options. He gets a tone cop. That’s the change.
And the feelings bit is a scam. “Men can talk about feelings” only counts when the feeling is sad and harmless. The second it’s “this dating market is trash and your advice is cope,” you slap incel on it and go back to ignoring it.
You can copy-paste the respectful paragraph. That’s why it’s worthless. It never makes her choose. It just tells him to eat it. If your advice fixed anything you’d show how him shutting up makes her close the extras. You can’t. So you do the sermon and call it nuance.
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We don’t even have to go back to the 50s, in the 80s-00s period most high schoolers had sex even though feminism has already been changing the society. Social media has been one of the worst things to happen and you know it.
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>>223217606
>might actually be a chatbot
are you fucking retarded?
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>>223217681
Average guys got girlfriends. Feminism was already in the walls and it still wasn’t a slaughterhouse, because the phone wasn’t a global catalog and the future still looked like a job, a house, and a girl who lived on the same street.
Social media finished it. Infinite options, no local cost, no village shame, porn as the comparison set, and a feed that trains women that settling is a personal failure. Once the future looks like rent and chaos, the lizard brain stops shopping for a builder and starts shopping for the monkey: loud, dishonest, status-now, dance-now, steal-now. That’s not mysterious. That’s low-trust mating.
The men who got raised for the old contract, be decent, wait, respect her, work, were sold a country that no longer exists. Then the same people who smashed the country called them incels for noticing the rubble. They weren’t born defective. They were trained for a high-trust game and dropped into a raid. Being mad about that is not entitlement. It’s pattern recognition. Shaming them for it is just the new priests protecting the jungle they built.
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>>223217719
They sold endless options as evolution. More choice, better genes, girlboss selection. That’s the press release.
In a high-trust world with a future, selection can look like that. In this one it doesn’t. No village, no shame, no timeline, a phone full of strangers, and a culture that treats settling as self-harm. The filter stops picking builders and starts picking the monkey: loud, disloyal, no trade, good at the dance, good at the lie, good at the grab. That’s not eugenics. That’s raid-mode mating with a TED Talk taped on top.
Then they make you pretend the outcome is liberation. She never has to close the list. He has to call that wisdom. If he says the inventory is selecting for the worst traits in a collapsing country, he’s the horror movie. The article is there so the selection process never has to be judged, only the man who still wants a pick that lasts. Endless options isn’t improvement. It’s a broken market congratulating itself for shopping while the product gets worse.
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>>223216184
Her description about how people meet and become couples is pretty damn accurate. Or at least it used to be.
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>>223217712
yes. i did read your post and found it fair. the timing just struck me as either a robot, or as someone furiously responding ASAP. as opposed to a poster actually reflecting on what's been said, then writing their response, and checking it over (there was a typo in MY post, and it pains me).

i USED to be able to type intelligent sentences at 120+ wpm, but now i have the dumb. some degree of retardation will come to you with age too, anon-kun.
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>>223216047
>It's amazing what a little bit of social stigma and shaming can accomplish,
Yep. Remove that and they become disgusting in just few decades
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>>223216047
I agree with most of this but with “lurid literature”. I don’t mind books that have a greater than life feeling, especially fantasy.
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>>223216009
Reminder: it's common knowledge that starstruck 21 year old Grace Kelly fucked married Gary Cooper during the filming of High Noon because she was always a clout chasing thot
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Are people honestly defending today's tattooed up roasties that had 50 dicks in them, an onlyfans account on the side and a mountain of consumer debt?

I love watching these old movies. Women were so good and beautiful back then. The worst they'd do is steal $40,000, but even then would want to return it because they were still good. What happened
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>>223216210
>To like modern women you have to be a little gay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW7IF64bS88



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