It's pretty absurd that at no point in twenty years did a single guard check behind the poster. All it would take is a guard to slip their hand behind the poster during a cell inspection to check for contraband and Andy's plan would've been ruined. Now I know Andy was the wardens favourite so he probably got special treatment from the guards causing them to be less thorough when checking his cell, but it's still rather farfetched.
Guards didn't think of it because the writer decided against it.It is not real life.
It isn't far-fetched, at all. You have to understand that in a capitalist civilization, the best and brightest can and often will go into business for themselves. The dregs? They find their way into the public service.The absolute DREGS of the dregs, however, find their way into either (a) the military, (b) the police or (c) the prison system. In fact, if your IQ is too-high, you are actually REJECTED from the aforementioned three positions.Guards being too fucking stupid to check behind a poster for anything suspicious? Not far-fetched, at all. Especially American guards.
>>223219061He was only in there for 19 years, though, he didn't start digging immediately upon imprisonment, its not really clear on how many years it actually took even in the source material, but the way the walls were just falling apart, for all we know it could have just been a matter of months after he was well established as a good behavior warden's pet inmate to dig to a void.
>>223219124the only problem I had was that the movie tried to make out as if Andy was valued and respected enough by the guards that they wouldn't think to antagonize him by destroying his cell/posters (there's a scene exactly playing this out), yet he regularly does things that massively piss off the guards and gets put in the hole constantly. after the "obtuse" comment the warden is basically torturing himi find it hard to believe they didn't bother to touch the stuff in his cell in all the weeks he was away from it
>>223219098Most reddit post award
>>223219168>they didn't bother to touch the stuff in his cell in all the weeks he was away from itWhen he was in solitary for "obtuse" that would have been the very first thing they did, was take away all his niceties.
I feel like with the amount of freedom Andy was given by the warden he could've thought of a million easier escape plans. Like nigga just bribe a guard. Instead all he did with that was some musical cringe.
>>223219168>>223219185>(there's a scene exactly playing this out)>he regularly does things that massively piss off the guards and gets put in the hole >When he was in solitary for "obtuse"That was all at the beginning before he cozied up to the warden like I said with the crumbling state of the walls, it may just been a matter of months when he was already solidly in the warden's good graces and on his best behavior after his escape plan had been hatched which would have been years to over a decade after having his troubles with the guards and warden.
>>2232190611. guards r majoritly gay.2. they also know they're gay3. the others know they r gay4. if guards touch poster of woman he ain't gay5. being not gay is not being a guard6. so guard is criminal if he touch poster7. u don't want to be criminal as that forces u to go to prison daily8. in conclusion the guards didn't touch poster in order to not prison themselves daily
>>223219079why cum didn't warden felt pickaxe in bible, would not the massive weight different be notable?
>>223219168the only problem I had with the movie was the scenes with the sisters. it wasn't disclosed exactly how much cock Andy had taken. I suspect he maybe got assraped 20 times and blowjobbed 50-70 times? wouldn't that make Andy a faggot?? is that why he wanted to reuinte with Red so much? is the "mexian boat" a pink flamingo outside the lawn-style metaphour, like something only gays knows is an invitation of faggotry?what about Red then? did he suck cock or did he force sisters to suck?
>>223219955It wasn't some giant pickaxe, it was a little rock hammer, and the weight of the paper cut out to make room for it would roughly be the same,
>>223219999>and the weight of the paper cut out to make room for it would roughly be the same,I asked /sci/ about this once and they said the rock hammer would weight about five to ten times more given it was of solid steel like those maybe in the early 1900s.
>>223219061Andy was afforded special privileges for a majority of his imprisonment at Shawshank. As a result, they were soft on his inspections.
>>223220015How much does the rock hammer weight?The bible has a lot of pages, he wouldn't just have to cut out enough to fit the hammer exactly, he could cut out whatever it takes to roughly weight the same and deal with the extra void in the middle.
>>223220057paper weights approx 10 times less than steel iirc so if you reckon he removed 2x more mass of papers it still means the hammer weight 10 times more I guess
>>223219168Andy was essential to them since he did their taxes and set up some bullshit trust funds for them.The guards stopped messing with Andy as even the warden went to him for the tax errands.Guess that is why they glossed over his "carved chess pieces", and "Raquel Welch poster".
>>223219061it worked... didn,t it?
>>223219124>its not really clear on how many years it actually took even in the source materialIt took almost 20 years and he went through two hammers.
>>223219098>>223219175Ideally should have mentioned racism too, realistically this is only mid tier reddit faggotry buy nice try anyway anon
Is it better that Shawshank is an evil place because of evil supernatural shenanigans, or just evil because humans are naturally evil?
Lucky thing Andy's cell was next to a escape shaft he could break into, instead of just another cell.
>>223219061>>223219079I'm glad I never wasted my time on this tripe.
>>223219175>>223220647get away lil chuddie your breath smells like shoe polish
>>223219991>How to tell me you're russian without telling me you're russian
>>223219061Did you even watched the movie little retard baby?
>>223219061>All it would take is a guard to slip their hand behind the poster during a cell inspection to check for contraband and Andy's plan would've been ruinedAnd all Andy would need to do is keep a single inch thick layer of wall in place to counter this check.Betcha feel silly now, huh?
>>223219061the real life Alcatraz escapee dug a hole under his sink for six months and left a papier mache head in his bunk
>>223219061The only flaw that matters is that sewage pipes aren't made to fit humans. It doesn't matter what magic lead up to that because ultimately his ass ain't fitting in any pipe that leaves the prison
>>223221239Coleman Francis' character managed to squeeze through a pipe in Red Zone Cuba. I don't think Tom Hanks is nearly as fat.
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>>223219098Lol you’ve definitely been yanked out of your car while screaming about how you’re traveling not driving and you don’t contract with the state.
>>223219061The guards wouldn’t bother making searches in Andy’s cell because he was largely a model prison who was also doing all their taxes and laundering money for the warden, etc. Sure they might have thrown him into solidarity once or twice but those were the kinds of reprisals that they would consider more effective way to teach Andy a lesson than messing with his cell
>>223219061>why didn't the working people do their jobson, I know you're a commie now but sooner of later you'll realize you have to make people do their job or else they won't
>>223219061That's a big hole
>>223219061So you knew andy was digging the hole before it was revealed, right? Right?
>>223219061didn't mythbusters crack the myth about the survival rate of crawling through thousands of feet of sewergarbage filled with aids and roids? I'm pretty sure they plausubled Andys lifechance to be less than 67%
why did he pick an old hag like Rita Hayworth over some hotter chick like Pamela Andersen, Madonoue or Jeniffer Connelly
>>223219061The book is such a dry read compared to the movie. It's still good but unlike Green Mile where the screenplay followed the book to a letter, the most memorable moments in this movie were basically invented by Darabont.
>>223219244>That was all at the beginningHim falling out with the warden was near the end.
>>223219061I feel like the longer they go without checking the less likely it becomes that they would check.
>>223220763have it both ways. have supernatural imagery but could be explained through hallicinations.have it wet and dank that grows mold, mushrooms that cause poison induced hallucination.mental and physical stress that causes mental illness induced hallucinations.lead paint and pipes that cause illness induced hallucinations. etc, etchallucinations are evil because informed by the man based evil around them.
>>223219061How about...The warden has a secret room where all the secrets of the prison is kept (the murders, corruption, etc) and that's where Andy does all the money laundering work.The room is unknown to but a couple people, tucked away from any inspections (and maintenance).Here is where Andy digs the tunnel. Just another secret the room holds.
>>223222121>hey andy just had a question about my tax return this ye->WHAT THE FUCK WHY AREN'T YOU IN THE SECRET ROOM?
>locks andy up in solitary for months and destroys everything that he's built that is of any benefit to the other prisoners>lets him out and immediately has him doing the fraudulent taxes againwas the warden retarded?
>>223222403oh and it's all over a pretty mild comment made in a moment of understandable frustration toothe warden went a bit far if you ask me
>>223222121Like some Harry Potter shit
>>223219061Why would they check behind a poster when they already showed that andy was getting special treatment and the contraband literally sitting out in the open got left alone?They just made a show of 'searching' his room whenever they needed to by lifting up the bed.
>>223221192>And all Andy would need to do is keep a single inch thick layer of wall in place to counter this check.But he didn't.
What if the ligghtning only struck once and Andy wasn't prepared?
This movie would've been 10x better if Moron Freeman was replaced with Susan Sarandon and it was an all-female prison like in Chained Heat and it wasn't softcore but triple-x rated instead. Press f if you agree.
>cell inspectionSpeedwatchers, all of you. They stopped tossing his cell for the same reason he never got a cellmate and never got moved, the warden was pampering him and giving him special privileges.
Once he made it through the first part off the wall, there would be a draft that would cause the poster to bulge in and out in the breeze
>>223223301But he could have. I think that's what the actual guy did
>>2232190611. There's no concrete walks that are dozens of feet thick, not even in prisons2. Why is there no rebar reinforcement?3. >>223223669
>>223223719Walls* even
>>223219061Maybe he made some kind of wall cover for the hole like in Escape from Alcatraz, but didn’t have time or couldnt put it back during the escape. Come to think of it, Stephen King maybe got the idea for the story after watching that movie, there are some similarities.There is dozens of other ways he could get caught, like what if they decided to put him on another prison cell after years of digging.
Do you not know what a bluff is?>let's basically drive the guy who has been doing our taxes for 10+ years insane so when we get tax audited we have no legit evidence of how the accounting was done for a potentially multi million dollar profit industrythey were willing to torture him, but you also have to leave the dog a nice play to lay down for the conditioning to work.if you take away everything nice, the dog has no reason to comply.
>>223219061Even when they tossed his cell they didn't think to rip the posters down.
>soothing voice of morgan freeman plays over shots of andy getting butt fucked>he sure did clinch as hard a man could>tried to lock it up like us poor soul in here>ol' andy didnt know the rules of prison>act like a joker, get the meat poker>he did fight though>he sure did..
>>223223719>1.Wasn't the wall that thick just for the cool camera effect? Or did they mention it precisely how thick it is? I don't remember, but I've always thought it's the first.
>>223221779>less than 67%The other option was rotting in prison for life.
Why didn't he just keep the rock hammer in the huge hole in his cell?
>>223219061He spent several years getting on the guards good side with favors like filing their taxes so they’d turn a blind eye to his contraband.
>>223224357with no hammer he could claim rats dug it, the hammer was the smoking gun
>>223219061Everyone knew about it, but Andy was almost two meters tall - nobody would think that he could have crawled through the hole like that.
>>223224541>but Andy was almost two meters talHow did he get raped then? Doesn't make any sense.
>>223219098anons mock but this is true, obviously officers are different.
>>223220890And your breath smells like penis, tourist.
>>223221779just take a few vitamin C when you're free, no big thing
>>223225130the sisters climb on top of each other to reach his ass obviously
How did Andy put the poster back up so snugly after he escaped through the hole?
>>223219936>7. u don't want to be criminal as that forces u to go to prison dailyBut then you would get buttfucked daily as detailed in >>223219991>>223224134, isn't that what they'd want?
>>223219061>prisoners never once moved between cells in 19 years>no basic maintenance or painting carried out in cells, everRuins it for me.
>>223226178taped a weighty pebble to the bottom inside part and two pieces of sticky tack on each cornerwhen he raised it all the way up and took his hand away, gravity brought the pebble and poster towards the wall with such force it secured the sticky tack corners
>>223226367>no basic maintenance or painting carried out in cells, everIt's concrete blocks and steel bars. What maintenance is there? The story obviously rips of the escape from alcatraz. Only difference is Andy covered the hole with a poster instead of a makeshift grate.
>>223227818The alcatraz escapees planned their escape over months though, not years
>>223219098UPVOTE!! you even did the reddit spaces!
>>223221779>mythbusters>prison escapeDoes Adam speak from experience?
>>223227865The premise of both is that the cells are concrete were in disrepair and weren't checked. Andy was the wardens pet because he helped launder money. He was protected. Obviously it's a story, but it works within the established world of Shawshank.
>>223227968>and concrete
>>223223719>>223224224I thought the wall backed up to the ground. Like it was in the basement or dug into a hill or something
>>223219061It's fucking stupid. It's an emotionally manipulative reddit movie.
>>223223669There wouldn’t be any draft if the room beyond the wall was also walled in, which it obviously was, even with the hole in the pipe leading out.It would smell like shit though, but if you want to nitpick there's no way a shitpipe would be that wide or would contains pressurized shit water that just sprays out when you burst the pipe. But maybe the prison just smells like shit anyway
>>223228182>would contains pressurized shit water that just sprays out when you burst the pipeThat's a big bullshit part of it, yeah. Especially given that it's half-empty when he gets in. A pipe that thick is plausible for a building that old. It likely carried sewage along with drain water from the french drains and roofs. Not exactly EPA compliant by today's standards.
>>223228130go back
The clint eastwood prison escape movie is better
>>223219098anons are angry at youbut they can't prove you wrong
>>223219061It's a prison that could be picked apart by shitty little hammer but you expected maximum security standards?
>>223221192Thats how they did it in escape from alcatraz. He made a paper mache facade he put in place over the vent he had started expanding, and a paper mache dummy head he used so it looked like someone was asleep in the cot when the guards came by to check. Worth watching if you haven't seen it. Clint eastwood classic.
>>223219098Cops are more dreggy than cleaning ladies and uber eats drivers? That doesn't seem right
>>223219098Meanwhile socialist put dregs in charge of nuclear power plant, blew it up, polluted the land for next 1000 years and had to beg capitalists to save them.
>>223219061the movie becomes retarded when it's revealed andie didn't do it, a contrived feel-good fantasy.
>>223227886newfag
>>223220763I don't remember the short story implying anything supernatural about the place
>>223228130>emotionally manipulativelol anon felt something watching this and felt angered
>>223224357Maybe he did and just moved it back into the bible to taunt the warden at the end.
>Lovable Black character is an unapologetic murderer who's finally paroled for admitting he doesn't even careNever change, Hollywood
>>223230553You're inadvertently proving the point that state run institutions employ the dumbest people in society. You think it's different because they're in America? No, they're universally the pits everywhere, especially modern Western nations.One day you'll understand that DEI was public sector hiring practices being rolled out across the private sector.
>>223219061its pretty absurd than an adult human beign cant understand its fiction
