>>223290616
I love it when obedient sheep get fleeced.

I'm a paypig for a few streamers but interracial gay zionist ads are an immediate deal breaker

Disney also has the shittest content. they have the entire fucking 20th century fox cataloge and show 0.0001% of it

>>223290616
LMAO!

This reminds me of how the Super Bowl is just ads. The whole field is wrapped in ads. There's a whole "half time show" ad. And of course, multiple ad breaks.

How much of football is actually played and how much time goes to ads...?

>>223290616
Ah yes, classic enshittification through bait & switch.

>>223291048
American football is an excuse for middle aged men to get together, eat wings and drink beers without having to make conversation.
The sport is just there so that they have a shared thing to cheer/lament over.

>>223290616
they can't just raise the price of premium?

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>>223290616
I download movies and music and have adblockers on every device I own. I can't imagine the hell of having to sit through, or listen to an advertisement. What's funny is that I make 6 figures, and when you start making money, you realize that 90% of ads are for poor and stupid people (fast food meal deals, service discounts, daytime attorney shit, etc)
Advertising is cancer.

>>223291149
oh no, they can do that too

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>>223291074
It was pretty bad before.

>>223291150
if I call you a sexy kitty and give you eat scritches can I have 5 bitcoins pls?

>>223291149
the goal is to mess with people and make them accept it, not reach some financial line

>>223290616
I'm shocked. Right when they are ending Hulu and rolling it into one app. What are the odds?

>>223291149
They're trying to repiece together cable in the streaming era since most people havent gotten used to not seeing ads, they're trying to bring it back to save the entire model. Without it, they'll die or be gobbled up until they're basically 2 or 3 companies left.

Advertising was a walled garden inside of cable channels, people had to watch them which gave advertising its power. Without that..

They're all dying, even netflix.

>>223291169
I love how this unironically the sort of shit someone would put in their satire of a futuristic dystopia, only to be relentlessly criticised for such unrealistic and heavy-handed writing.
And I love how it just kind of happened, people were like 'that's kinda fucked' and then moved on. I suppose that's just life.

For me, it's Nuvio with Torbox

>Ads?! That wasn't part of the deal!
>I have altered the deal. Pray that I do not alter it further.

>>223291216
the funny thing about reality is that it has no obligation to be believable

Just canceled my sub too, thanks for the good news. Netflix is next too

>>223291149
They could, and they eventually will, but not having ads for the most expensive plan doesn't make them enough money. They need more money no matter what.
It's a classic case of enshittification. Since everyone knows the Disney brand and has a loyal following, and since trying to advertise your brand as the best with high quality and lowest cost doesn't make you AS MUCH money as it once did, the only move to make even MORE money is to purposefully squeeze your loyal customer base dry. That, and influence the government to be able to squeeze out money also through copyright and no-bid contracts and other stuff.

>>223291150
>you realize that 90% of ads are for poor and stupid people
Not even remotely true, that just means you're watching content that advertisers have targeted as having a low income audience. If you're watching something that has a middle class viewing audience like hockey or AEW then you'll see ads for things like higher end cars, house insurance, and jewelery.

>>223291216
>And I love how it just kind of happened, people were like 'that's kinda fucked' and then moved on. I suppose that's just life.
What were people suppose to do? Most of them don't even know that happened.

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You'll going to get ads and you're going to like them.

>>223291374
>AEW
They are on HBO Max and force full screen ads when the television broadcast has picture in picture. YOU OWE ME PIP MAX. THE BUYOUT CAN'T HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH.

>>223291443
It's kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, though. The more they try to cram ads (and block it, like Google is doing it), the more people either decide to use it, or harden their usage. The end result is more adblocking. Remember that Internet Explorer once had 99% of the web on its hands. That's ended a long time ago. Google will perish, too.

>>223291402
>What were people suppose to do?
I dunno. Mass boycott? Heavy government intervention in the company's operations and possibly jailtime for execs approving illegal/malicious activity? New legislation specifically to make stuff like this very illegal and very transparent?
I'm no social media expert, but a basic law that would mean companies had to let users have an uninterrupted main feed of only their friends and accounts they follow, in chronological order, would go a long way.
Forcing those companies to let users permanently opt out of certain accounts/content rather than just not showing it for a day.
Making it so that the algorithm isn't allowed to show anything political unless the user specifically opts in and follows accounts that post that sort of content.
Basically, force them to stop showing low effort rage b8

>>223291402
>What were people suppose to do?
Mass boycotts.
Clear and swift statements from judicial officials that terms and conditions for a streaming service can not be used as an agreement to let the company literally kill you without reprieve.

>>223291501
Right, but that's not just people doing something. This is the case of elected officials and appointees doing their job, which sort of happened when Lina Khan was on the FCC. That changed when You-Know-Who got in office.
There are many root issues along with that, some of them very hard to do, and surely change that won't happen in a single day, week or year, but people are getting sharpening their axes for the tech sort. We'll definitely see a few reckonings in the coming years. They are too drunk on power.

>>223291150
I will NEVER watch a add, even outside, I just don't wear my glasse and I won't see anything
Get fucked

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>>223291487
Idiocracy made fun of it back in 04, now I don't even want to know what Youtube looks like without an ad blocker.

>>223291610
I don't understand youtube strategy
Either I have a black screen for a few sec or an add
Why would I watch an add ?

>>223291610
>having a jeet deliver beer to your home is now normal
Documentary etc. etc.

>>223291048
I already hate watching sports on TV but yeah the superbowl is something else
>1 maybe 2 15 second plays
>3 to 5 minutes of ads
>1 or 2 15 second plays
>3 to 5 min of ads
>repeat until the halftime show thats ads on ads on ads

Not my problem, I pirate everything.

>>223290616
I expect mass cancellations. If not, I'll be disappointed in humanity.

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>>223291048
I remember reading that an entire game is only perhaps eleven minutes of actual play. The clock is either stopped or running while no actual play is taking place.

>>223291551
This^, and user agreements should be legally capped at 50 words. No more 1000 page legalese agreements.

>>223291501
>Suddenly shifting a totally unrelated discussion to advocating for state control over the internet
Go fuck yourself.

>>223291449
I have HBO Max and have experienced ZERO ads ever.

>>223291632
>>223291589
*ad

Fucking retard.

>>223291808
I accidentally confused this with the social reckoning thread. Same issue essentially.
>for state control over the internet
No. Definitely not that. Only for explicit social media sites and I wouldn't class 4chan as a social media site.

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>>223291501

Get fucked socialist faggot. Look at where you are when you talk stupid.

>>223291501
>I dunno

>>223291808
>free market capitalism! Let the public sector work it out through "competition" to let the best price find the consumer

Fuck that. Can't be trusted anymore. Price fixing, mergers, monopolies. I wish the government were less corrupt. In a couple years it will be.

>>223291859
Free speech website.

Feel the Bern!

>>223291851
>I wanna hand this monkey a loaded gun surely it will only hit my enemies in it's flailing around oh oops now I need to identify myself everywhere I go

I don't understand streaming services' almost zealous need to make their services as bad as possible.

>>223291892

That is why your lies will never work, you're inauthentic and can even be seen by blind people. We see you.

and you'll never get that.

The government we have now has created the framework for all that is bad even now. Would unrestrained companies be best? Yes, because all the worst actors would finally die out without their ability to cheat and stay alive. You're the antithesis of everything this place is or could be.

>>223291999
This place? You want to censor me?

Sorry, there is greed everywhere and unrestrained companies would fuck you even worse than if there was some sort of government cap. Every generation will cheat.

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>>223291610
makes a man miss annotations

>>223291839
>I have HBO Max and have experienced ZERO ads ever.

HBO also has 0 content. The horror movie section is a joke and never gets updated.

>>223291374
Doesnt matter, the majority of people that watch TV still use basic cable...that includes old people who watch the news and shitty sitcoms on cbs. Those ads are just awful, promoting terrible products and unhealthy food.

>>223291839
The sports streams all have ads

>>223292066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn1b0OaI8lg

used to be a whole genre of youtube videos

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>>223292088
>0 content

How do you figure? You expect some special horror section? lol
They have plenty for normal people. I don't like capeshit but they have almost all DC stuff, including original programming.

Decades of original HBO shows and movies and lots of other ones. I've tried all the services and find HBO to be the one best suited to my tastes.

>>223292095
Because they're live. That's what happens when you add live television events to a streamer. Do people watch sports on HBO?
They had boxing back in the day and of course no ads.

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>>223292131
And I love my weekly Real Time.

Just cancel your Disney+ already. It's not worth it anymore.

>>223292147
No boxing anymore which sucks but they have Nascar, baseball and hockey and of course wrasslin'

>>223291999
>No no u guise, you just don't get it
>How we fix all our problems, right, is we let the people who spent vast sums of money and ran kiddie-fucking schemes to get blackmail material in order to influence politicians to make things worse for everyone, yeah those guys?
>We need to give them complete unfettered control of everything without even the compromised pretence or democratic control that exists now.
>No no, listen though, the only behaved in corrupt, monstrous, evil, self-serving way because the government was right there in a short skirt making goo-goo eyes at them, basically *inviting* them to fuck it and us.
>If we got rid of the government, they'd be perfect baby angels!
At least if you retards ever do manage to gain the power to enact your deranged billionaire simping strategy, I'll have the comfort of knowing you're definitely also dumb enough to drink the Roundup water and will die horribly.

>>223291149
They're betting that everyone will accept the ads, no matter the tier. They're probably right.

Why don't normies just use stremio? I don't get it. And don't tell me it's too complicated. These niggas make a dozen social plans per week, remember every detail of some gossip story, make elaborate plans to deceive and one-up each other but googling how to use stremio is too hard?

>>223292131
>They have plenty for normal people.
Normal people don't give a fuck about streaming, they get all their entertainment for free from TikTok.
You're thinking of old (40+) people.

>>223291882
>I wish the government were less corrupt. In a couple years it will be.
This time for sure.

>>223291150
the tv spies on you and gathers data, the service spies on you and gathers data, everything in your home spies on you at the behest of advertisers and the government, they buy the data, if you're getting stupid people ads chances are you are the stupid people

btw fuck ads and advertising there are surefire ways to avoid them

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>>223290616
Canceled streaming and downloaded a bunch of tv shows for my kid onto a usb stick to watch on TV while they’re still obtainable. This shits out of hand.

>>223290616
but I thought streaming's whole raison d'être was to avoid ads?

>>223291374
> aew

Listen bud i watch aew and the few times that the pirated streams i watch had ads, the ads were for life insurance, gambling, and hiv prep.

>>223290616
While it may not affect Disney as much, this trend will return us to sanitized and censored shows like they had on most of cable. We're not too far now from Netflix and others starting to remove nudity, violence, and cursing, because they aren't advertiser friendly.

Here's the deal: You should've been torrenting everything worthwhile for the past 5 years. This is the only guaranteed way to ensure ad free availability. Within the next 5-10 years there won't be an internet anymore. AI or WWIII will ensure this. Your pirate streams won't be there anymore. Your commercial streams won't be there anymore. I'm sitting on 32TB of every worthwhile movie or TV show I've ever seen. You've been constantly warned this would happen for the past 15 years and you didn't listen. I would pity you if you hadn't done this to yourselves.

>>223290616
>Changing the terms of the contract
That's illegal outside muttland

>>223290741
>(((Disney+)))
>schmuck rates for the goys

>>223292714
It was; they lied. Sling did the same thing. It's useless for anything but sports or being a pre-installed platform on your TV to pay yet again to rent a film that isn't on the plan, even if you pay for the best one.
Amazon Prime is also the same. Many movies cost extra if you want to watch them and ads are in everything, unless you pay a premium for it and now they're probably going to roll more ads into that.

>go buy DVDs and Blu-rays
Where? By design, most stores that still exist refuse to carry any. All that's left is specialty online stores that are heavily camped on by scalpers. So often Ebay is your last real option, then you gotta pray that you don't get ripped off.

tl;dr pirate Chads just keeping winning, while those who do the right thing get punished.

>>223292869
I disagree with most of your conclusions, but yes, you're right, download everything you like because you won't find it in a real store and soon online stores won't have them either once all the rights holders realize that they can just hold us hostage to streaming.

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>>223292871
Disney does as Disney wants.

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>>223290616
the customer can be adjusted

>>223292862
>We're not too far now from Netflix and others starting to remove nudity, violence, and cursing, because they aren't advertiser friendly.

Anon, Netflix began removing scenes from shows for political reasons right from the start. Several years ago I was watching the 1960s version of The Twilight Zone, and wouldn't you know it, they deleted a portion of a scene because the hero saved the day with a gun.
We already can't trust these bastards.

So, hoard DVDs;et al and make copies.

So you can apparently opt out the adverts, only downside is they show 2 random minutes of The Acolyte instead. Everyone picks the adverts.

>>223293139
I get that but what I'm saying is that soon it will be the same overly sanitized bland fare that most cable channels in the end. They have removed things so far that are about being PC and that sucks, but it will actually end with the most de-balled content possible because advertisers will become the arbiters of what is allowed.

>>223293303
>you gotta do a thing on this "service"
Disney and everyone else else can go sit on a fork with that attitude towards their bread and butter. I'm tired, I don't wanna DO more things to just veg' out and watch crap.

>>223290616
Disney is one of the worst companies adjusted for size/prestige.

>>223292862
>Netflix is hailed for killing cable and going direct to consumer
>10 years later the YT bring back all the shitty parts of cable

>>223293363
Oh, I know you're more than correct, anon. If they could walk into our homes and take the original versions of TV shows and films they would without a second thought. So yes, I agree, nay, I know as you know that it's coming, the censoring at least.

Shout it to the heavens: DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING GOOD.

>>223290616
Damn, I've been watching stuff lately. Im going to watch at world's end tomorrow and never boot it up again

>>223290616
They tried this in Australia recently and the government told them to get fucked. One of the few decent things this shitty gov has done in a while.

There should be consumer protections in place in every first world nation for this shit.

use add blocker you fucks

>>223291048
>>223291755 checked
Yeah, I've read varying measurements that range from 11 to 16 minutes of "ball is actively" time. The rest is one team or the other wasting the clock between plays.

>>223290616
Disney and HBO are already pushing full length trailers before every stream. I’ve seen so many ads for that shit GoT mobile game.

>>223293490
There's no way to block ads on your TV unless you're an MIT grad. Or is there some new cool thing that you're not telling us?
Honest question.
I used to watch youtube on my TV with my Nintendo Switch, but then ads started and I don't want to have Nintendo brick my games, so I just watch online stuff on my TV with my PC which of course blocks ads.

>>223291610
>now I don't even want to know what Youtube looks like without an ad blocker.

Speaking of, I completely forgot taht youtube started bitching about ad blockers a while ago. I changed nothing and... nothing happened. Was it just a bluff?

>>223293478
Lucky you that your government is functioning. Here it is literally running to enrich those at the top and the rest of us can get stuffed, as you say.

>>223291979
>I don't understand streaming services' almost zealous need to make their services as bad as possible.

They do not make money. No one's made any money on streaming. Let that really sink in. Think about it.

What would YOU do if you had a money pitt in your backyard and you had to shovel money into it every single day or your house would collapse?

You'd probably want to fix it. By fixing it, I mean actually making it profitable.

Streaming is LITERALLY the least efficient method of getting media from point a to point b. Insanely inefficient. But people like it and they like the choices and immediacy.

Even Netflix is years away from profitability. And if tey can't do it, who else could?

>>223293577
>Lucky you that your government is functioning.
Oh, I wouldn't go that far. This is more of an outlier win. But I'm sure one could say that this government is functioning splendidly if you live here but weren't born here.

>>223293635
Gotcha. I am happy for ya.
Me? I am so glad that I've been collecting DVDs and the rest for decades.

>>223291721
Normies will eat it up

>people act surprised about this happening for the 100th time in the streaming era
>people acted surprised even the first time this happened on streaming despite cable also having done the same exact thing
>despite the fact that as early as like 2010 Entertainment Weekly ran an article about the new steamer Netflix where they speculated it would fragment and monetize, going from the cable alternative to cable 2.0
The amount of NPCs I'm forced to be near every day is staggering.

>>223293906
>>people acted surprised even the first time this happened on streaming despite cable also having done the same exact thing

To be fair, Anon, HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax never ever dared to pull that bullshit in the great 1980s. Not even in the early 90s. After that I don't know, but there is a precedent for being fair.

>>223292862
I don't why advertisers care so much about the underlying content.

>>223293369
You'll need the power of many to make them see otherwise.

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Not my problem.

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>>223294082
CTO wouldn’t make this choice though. Disney+ is good as a technological platform. I mean, at least it’s not Paramount+, right?

>>223291169
>UHH SORRY, YOU SIGNED UP TO WATCH TOY STORY, THAT MEANS WE CAN LEGALLY KILL YOUR WIFE.

>>223294033
I feel a bit sad that I got that joke.

>>223293937
Because they were "premium" cable, ie, cable ascended past cable. Cable gone SSJ2.
Streaming is not that, for the last decade every platform has had many originals, many of good quality, and all for a cheaper fee than your old HBO cable card cost you. It was inevitable this would happen, first rates raised, then ads, now they both increase. Just like cable.
Disney Channel was one of the last basic cable channels to go commercial, but they still did.

>>223290616
It´s people´s fault for accepting adds when the company introduced them instead of saying fuck no and unsubscribing.

>>223293478
>There should be consumer protections in place in every first world nation for this shit.
Don't forget the States!

>>223294193
But anon how will I watch the new thing if I unsub

>>223290616
Not entirely unexpected. Cable was ad free initially too. The problem is advertisers are willing to pay more to to a company to have them serve you ads than you're willing to pay to not see ads, and the kind of people with money to spare on skipping ads are the exact people advertisers want to advertise too.

>>223294183
But even regular cable with TBS fare didn't have as many commercials as modern streaming. Yes, plenty of ads, but not as many. It's all greed, and I know you know, but Sling, Amazon Prime;et al all LIED. Difference.
Amazon lied so hard recently that they had to make a bunch more movies available with a subscription without paying extra. It was bad. Like 85% of what you saw was by default not available without an extra 7-10 bucks per item.

>>223291850
I thought it was something they add on to the video

>>223292237
No, HBO does not broadcast "pro" wrestling.
Gross.

>>223294203
kek

>>223294227
>the kind of people with money to spare on skipping ads are the exact people advertisers want to advertise to
This is the paradox right here. They actually couldn't care less about advertising to the poor people with the cheap subscription. They want to reach the ones paying more, so there will ultimately be no escape. The more you are willing to spend to not see ads, the more adamantly they will shove ads in your face.

>>223291169
The Babylon Bee is going to go out of business any day now

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>>223290616
suffa stream cucks suffa

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>>223292357
>Only people under 40 are 'normal'

Fuck off, incel. Only teenaged morons watch vertical videos on their phones. And no one at all is comparing ticktock to fucking HBO.
Apples and oranges.

>>223292370
Really ANYTHING would be less corrupt than right now.

Select members of the free press are currently barred from the White House because the president doesn't appreciate negative reporting on the things he's not even denying doing. lol, these are weird fucking times.