this method was discovered in 1892. How the fuck did these bumfuck pirates know to do this
The water pressure would make this impossible. If you can't sink a boat with your hands, you can't hold one down underwater.
>>223348315you can if you didnt get the lead out
>>223348283It's not realistic and myth busters did a good episode on it
perfectly possible with two strong lads
>>223349274Strength isn't relevant, you could be the strongest dude in the world, that doesn't mean you're actually heavy enough to be held to the bottom of the ocean while you've got 50 square feet of air pushing in the opposite direction.
>>223348315No you start with the boat underwater and you pump the air in so rises just enough pff the sea floor
>>223349326ur mum's heavy enough to handle it
> film about ghost pirates is unrealisticno shit
My friend and I tried to do this in his pool with a storage tub and it didn't really work because the tub had enough air in it that it was too hard to hold down
>>223349326this is true but it's not 50 squares. you can see the squares in the picture (it's the plane where the water beings; their heads are sticking up through the squares). it's probably only about 20 square feet of air with a boat that size
>>223349326You just need to be stronger, trust me I did this with my mate
>>223349637this has since been DEBUNKED
>>223349567they're pirate ghosts not ghost pirates
>>223350316Oh yeah, let's trust "the raping blob" on what is and isn't possible.
>>223350407>pirate ghosts are the ghosts of dead pirates>ghost pirates are ghosts that decided to be pirates after dyingsimple as
>>223350407they never actually died really so they're just like revenants or something
>>223349326why would how heavy you weigh matter, people lift stuff that is heavier than them all the time
>>223350316newsflash, asshole. it's just been rebunked
>>223348283you can discover this with a bucket, its not very advanced
>>223350532because of pressure you dim whit, water is fucking heavy and the pressure comes from forcing air underneath the water.
>>223348283This is the series where you can see musket balls flying through the air.
>>223350909>he can't slow time with his 'Battle Sense' trained through years of study with blade and pistol
>>223348706We literally saw them do it in the film. Weren't you watching?
Are you fucking faggots seriously going to have this goddamn fucking thread AGAIN? There's nothing that hasn't been gone over and nothing that hasn't been debated over this one scene that hasn't been done previously.That's it. I'm dumping my Pirates of the Caribbean folder because you're wasting precious catalogue space having the same autistic arguments over and over.
>>223351004yeah we really need another obsession thread instead
>>223351088I'll take sneedposting over this crap.Who the fuck just let's a Pirates thread go to waste?
>>223348315but you have heard of him
>>223351004Retard. Why would the weight of the boat be going up? Boats normally float upwards sure, but this boat is upside down, so the 1000lb arrow should be pointing down as that's the direction the boat would float in this case. They were only able to carry that heavy of a weight because things are lighter underwater.
>>223348283this fucking thread AGAIN
>>223348283This is impossible, the air pressure would be so high that they would succumb to hyperoxia within moments
>>223349326you pump som air to already sank boat, but only enough to be able to handle it, retard
>>223351151
>>223351284
>>223351316how do you know the depth for pressure, while it is only just barely under surface?
>>223351452>TWO swords? you're telling us there's TWO swords right now?
>>223348315It was a different time
>>223350663Check truth social. Trump redebunked it this morning.
>>223351536HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>223351197>DERBRA DERP DERP DERP DURBA DERP A BLOO BLOO BLOO BLOO!Don't give a flying fiddlers fuck.Post more Keira Knightley.
>>223351151Kek
>>223350129I believe this man.
>>223351197this is bait
>>223348315>the water pressure
>>223348283I've done this so many times with my friends and a bunch of reddit faggots on the internet tell me it's impossible lmao
>>223351004And how much does water weigh, genius? Look at your picture dumbass, there’s at least 10,000lbs of water on top of the boat, but let me guess the air weighs more or something?
>>223351796>He's really trying to bait someone into a scientific debate over a 5 second scene in a movie that involves walkin' talkin' sword fighting pirate skeletons.
>>223351114>ywn do a line of coke off this tummy
>>223348315I believe technically it's more the "atmospheric differential"Than it isnthe "water pressure" It's the idea that the fundamental forces that cause air to displace water until it reaches the other air. Not the idea that the water is weighing the air down. It seems semantic I'd even solipsistic, but it's an important fundamental detailI could be wrong though I've dedicated most of my intellect and talent to learning how to navigate danger. A chemist or physicist would know better than me
>>223351849This picture just makes me think of that GOAT fake
>>223351869Just say you’re a midwit and take the L. I accept your concession btw
You swim to the bottom with the boat then fart into it dummies
>>223348283This is a gross violation of Le Chatelier's principle.
>>223351951According to some “people” itt you wouldn’t be able to swim down because your chambered fart would keep you afloat
>>223351948How about no and you admit you're a dicksucking faggot that wants people to stroke your tiny peener for validation?
>>223351982Actually, homo, faggots suck MY dick and the only one stroking my tiny peener for validation is Kiera Knightly so keep the pics coming.
>>223349326yeah but what if it was 2 really fat guys
>>223351004What if it's a lead boat, made from lead.
>>223350831if it's heavy then why would stuff float up in it
>>223352021Whatever.
>>223349326>>223349748>square feet>square>volume
>>223352016Whats the problem?
>>223350831The deeper underwater you go, the heavier the trapped air gets too, you moron. It all evens out. Trapped air that is 1000 feet underwater is like 1000 times heavier
>>223352097breathing air at that depth is like breathing concrete
>>223348283Because it's a kids movie and it doesn't matter.
>>223348283there wasn't no wikipedia
>>223352128Exactly.
>>223352072Phoneposters and phones in general.
>>223352128kek
>>223352058Ah fuck now I have to watch this movie again. Why is it so damn good? Literally a top 5 kino>the cast>the story>the worldbuilding >the music score>the choreography >the costumes >the set >the film locations Lighting in a bottle? How did they do it? Also, did anyone else read picrel as a kid?
>>223352097No it's not. Weight doesn't work that way. It gets more dense because it gets compressed, but it doesn't get appreciably heavier because weight is strictly a function of mass and proximity to the Earth's center of mass. So it gets very slightly heavier because it's nearer to the center of the Earth, but not much because it's the same mass. The weight of the water weighing down on it is greater, but the weight of the air itself doesn't appreciably change.
>>223352050because air rises, hence bubbles. Trying to trap an air pocket in a boat is impossible by just pulling the boat downward because you are pulling against an extreme force
>>223352199Yes, and it was a dope book.
>>223352225Favorite scene. I watch this at least once a month.
>>223352225But why was the rum gone
>>223352217but if the water is heavy why would the air not be pushed down by it, the water all above the boat is pushing down on the boat which is pushing down on the airhow strong is the air
>>223352245There were multiple. It was a whole series. Don’t think I finished all of them. I probably still have them in my attic.
>>223352217>because air risesNot when it has been trapped and compressed under water. The more air gets compressed, the heavier it gets. One square foot of air trapped at a depth of 500 feet is roughly 1 ton. Air is very heavy underwater
so, uh, is it possible or not?
>>223352308we've had multiple anons attest to the fact they have done it, then we have armchair scientists saying it is not possible..choose
>>223349326Look how much weight of water is on top of the boat you fucking moron
>>223352328now that’s bussin
>>223352259>how strong is the airVery, because it's a gas trapped in a liquid.
>>223352308well we've established that it is plausible...
>>223352366Strong air is HEAVY as fuck. It sinks fast
I strive to be as Anglo as this nigga
>>223352097Again the air doesn't "get" heavierThe fundamental forces that drive to air to reunite with the other air become weaker the more water surrounds. This is because the same fundamental forces want the water to remain unchanged by anything by movement. The air wants to unite with the other air, and the water wants to not be forced to move. Whichever has more reason to win that fight winsAt the bottom of the Puerto Rico trench, there's so much water, the air in a deep sea robot can't possible compete. If you don't know the mathematical "DeltaP" "bernoullian" physics or whatever, just think about it like that.It helps to mythologize things and then just remove aspects of mythology as you gather praxis understanding
>>223352438so air is racist
>>223352438If you ignore the Principles of Heavy Air, then your opinion becomes very convenient now, doesn't it?
>>223352458No the water would be racist because it's trying to oppress the air from rejoining it's kindTechnically motion is the real culprit. Without motion everything would just chill, quite literally.
>>223352438>Mr. Anon,>You’ve a flimsy argument,>a lack of sources >and I half expected your spacing to be more RedditYou are, without a doubt, the worse armchair scientist I have ever had the misfortune of meeting.
>>223352477Does heavy air contain a different chemical composition as the air "ground" level, and that's why you can't breathe it?Isn't that the reverse of the super heavy saline pockets in not ascending?
>>223348315no way you just outted yourself a dyel like that
>>223352501>argumentI said that fundamental forces of reality force certain forms of matter to compete for supremacy of being unchanged
>>223352265Based as fuck
>>223352543>I said that fundamental forces of reality force certain forms of matter to compete for supremacy of being unchanged
>>223352438You've obviously never been near a body of water your entire life. You have no idea how matter and air interact with water. You're like a dolphin trying to explain what life on land is like. You are an alien to the subject matter that you are trying to navigate. I pity you.
>>223352585Best one
>>223352301it's not compressed, that would be a submersible and they require strong metal or they explode like oceangate
My friend and I tried to do this in his pool with a storage tub and it didn't really work because the i couldnt help but rape him when we were down there alone
>>223352609You should avoid anything involving courts or legal process.
>>223348706>Myth BustersObserver-expectancy effect pretty much destroyed every "experiment" those retards ever ran. If you actually wanted to sink a boat with enough buoyancy left that these two guys could lift it underwater, you absolutely could. Camera doesn't show every inch of the boat, Jack and Will could easily have weights attached to parts of it we don't see that are helping them keep it down.
>>223352719
>>223352774God, I wish that were me
>>223352721Best character introduction ever?
>>223352762It wasn't filmed underwater you retard. They actors were in a pool with the boat prop floatting on top of the water. The underwater shot was not them in an air bubble either.
>>223352625Did you know that the diving bell was something inspired by a spider?Argyroneta Aquatica>>223352762>>223352762Honestly the real issue is that people are too wrapped up in the affect heuristic to actually apply suspension of disbelief in a meaningful way. They don't want to try to test if something that seems possible is or isn't, because they don't want their initial judgement to be wrong. It's the same reason people don't value the "Sticky Bomb" scene in Saving Private Ryan. My child's mind saw the value right away
I'm posting from my upside down boat right now
>>223352719>"I had a great time too, Tyrone!"
>>223352808We already know it works, submarines submerge easily just by taking on enough water to increase it's weight enough to offset the buoyancy of the remaining air inside. Movie never even says the boat is wooden, could have been made of bronze part of some display, easily enough weight for them to submerge it, while the buoyancy of the air helps them keep it lifted.
>>223352755Sibling is a lawyer, no thanks. I’ll stick to being a retard in finance.
>>223351907>I could be wrong though I've dedicated most of my intellect and talent to learning how to navigate danger.
>>223351081The only annoying thing about the first 3 Pirates movies is how girlboss Elizabeth becomes. For no particular reason she turns into a badass that everyone listens to. I get it's a "kid movie" but in reality she'd a) be a screaming pansy and b) get her hot ass raped 55 ways to Sunday within her first day away from Will protecting her. At least they end the trilogy with her getting with Will (sort of).
>>223352806Yes. It encapsulates his entire persona so well.
>"'ello, poppet."
>>223353070would you really want to rape someone with an unwashed pussy and asshole that's been at sea for months? Normal people on boats without showers just soap and wash off in the ocean, I never ONCE saw someone in the films do that.
>>223353070>>223353218>t.
>>223353261They just said they wanted to see her without a dress on, that's no different than admiring a fine painting.
>>223353070It's a natural evolution and legitimate character development, though. Kind of like Sarah Connor in the Terminator films. It doesn't feel forced at all to me.Doesn't hurt that Keira Knightly was a super hot girlboss.
>>223353315>They just said they wanted to see her without a dress on, that's no different than admiring a fine painting
>>223352834how are you holding the air down
>>223353391centrifugal force
>>223349326>bottom of the oceanBro they were at the shore you fucking retard>>223351796They’re not at the bottom of the Mariana’s trench you godddam retards
>>223353391There's a rope tied around my chin so I just hold the boat down with my head.
>>223353391With my hands obviously how else do you hold things
>>223350407>Live by the ghost, die by the ghost
>>223353070I remember being really pissed off as a kid at the end of the 3rd movie during the final climatic ship battle when they do that retarded thing where her and will are trying to get married during the fight and I just wanted to see more ships blowing each other up
>>223353218Yes.
>>223349326shut the fuck up BITCH
did this in me bathtub
>>223353429it looks like they're about 20ft underwater in the only shot you can tell and the boat looks like it's about 12ft x 3ft and a 2 liter bottle of coke weighs about 4.5 pounds so that's like 15,000lbs on top of them
>>223353184wtf is a poppet?
>>223348315They're pirates, they don't give a fuck about the laws of physics
>>223353655This is one spooky pirate mystery!
How the fuck did cinematic CGI peak in the early 2000s and its just gone downhill ever since?
When they stick the grenade inside the guy and then push him out of the moonlight so he turns back to normal, how does that work? Does the grenade inside him displace his organs? When he explodes how does the curse stop him dying if he's been blown to bits?
>>223353429There's literally tons and tons of water above them, you stupid nigger. Also, air gets heavier when it's trapped underwater and compressed. There's probably a half ton if air trapped in the boat, at least
>>223353866Damn,give that bitch some canned yams and milk. She needs tobeat
whether this works is actually based on how heavy the boat isa very heavy boat could find an equilibrium against a small amount of air at any depthbut, the further down you are, the less likely that the narrow window of human strength would be what you need to balance a very heavy boat against the buoyancy of that much airmythbusters is just youtube crap like anything else, with a coat of sciency paint on top
>>223353907>whether this works is actually basedagreed dude
>>223353907See >>223353861
>>223348283they ripped it off The Crimson Pirate
>>223352762Using incredibly rough measurements, let's say the boat is 3m long, and is a right iscosceles triangle in cross section with the two sides being 0.5m each. I know it's salt water, but let's say it's freshwater with a density of 1 g/cm3. That's 375 kg of water the air is displacing. Two men in wet clothes (minus their buoyancy) is going to be less than 75kg, but we'll call it 75kg. The boat (minus buoyancy) is going to be like 100kg tops. So you're claiming they have 200kg of weight on there?
Now THIS is a proper villains death scene.
>casually goes on to star in some of the biggest blockbusters of all time.
>>223353971you're proven incorrect, and thus changing the subject to your very limited book knowledge about general rather than specific scenariosno one who read and comprehended my post would think I stated that this particular movie event could successfully occur
>>223349326The water is very bright, which indicates they are very close to the surface. They're not walking past the Titanic you stupid fuck
>>223353261Imagine how ripe she would be after weeks in the hot sun, wearing the same couple of outfits over and over, sweating in them.
>>223354529Fucked up thing is thats exactly how these bitches smelled
>>223348283was Jack undead at this point or not? you can see from the pucture he's the one doing all the work holding the boat down
>>223354446Calypso was a sexy mulatta
>>223354127Boat is made of bronze. Now what retard?
A LITTLE BIRD A LITTLE BIRD THAT NEVER LEARNEDTO FLLYYYY-UHHHHH
I still don't get why this wouldn't work. It makes perfect sense to me from a physic perspective
>>223348283If it’s impossible how did they film it
>>223355469The boat would spring up to the surface the instant they let go and would need superhuman strength to hold it underwater.
>>223355469Its the thing called water pressure. The air in the upturned rowboat wants to move to the surface so much it'd just pull you up with it. Maybe if you tied weights to your ankles it could work but seems kinda dangerous.(I didnt get my degree btw and am fully talking outta my ass)
>>223354335hes not the main villain tho
>>223355657Deuterantagonist, then.
>>223355605so how did they film it?
>>223355528They filmed it upside down and then flipped it
>>223355737motion pictures magic
>>223355783witchcraft!!
Can the POTC remake ever possibly be as kino?
>>223348283Only the first movie was good. Second and third was dogshit; the story was too complicated and it was just too long among other things.
>>223355737Probably on a stage then added water effects. They filmed the underwater scenes in Tomb Raider Cradle of Life by hanging the actors on wires.
>>223351151Lmao
>>223353812Asking the real questions
pirates are so cool I wish they were real
>>223348283If it's impossible how did they film it? Checkmate
>>223357114Sorry bro definitely not real especially not that female pirate Anne Bonnie who would flash open her tits before she killed you to show that you were killed by a girl
>>223348283Pol will then go on and tell you that the gas chambers had wooden doors when we know this works already.
>>223354335>all those anons who said this was had cgi after finding out this was done with practical effects
>>223357239I can't believe they blew up that actor for the movie but you can't argue with the results.
>>223348283if this is impossible how did they film this scene? I mean the 2 stunt guys, what kind of boat were they experiencing? I'm guessing one filled with water?
Everyone seems to be forgetting how filthy a pirate wench would be. Just imagine what her boots must gave smelled like after after a few days, all moldy and squishy from her sweat.
>>223357496>literally floating in the world's largest bathtub>"they dont bathe"
>>223357496have you ever dealt with a homeless man or woman. the smell of their feet is not pleasant no matter how strong your fetish is.there's a difference between a woman's foot having a light scent, pheromones, her scent, not really smelly, you have to breath deep to get it. But I think the smell of a woman's foot after a long shift is somewhat unpleasant but bearable.But no dude, you don't want boot feet after a few days. It's just death and rot.Same thing when my ex was depressed (not showering properly) and on her period (maxipad came off). Her pussy smelled so damn bad but I had to bear with it. And this was a borderline anorexic young healthy woman
>>223348283Imagine if you had a lot of gas and you kept farting and the fart bubbles kept going into the canoe haha
>>223357486No air pocket in the canoe and scuba gear. Didn't Mythbusters recreate in an episode?
>>223353766Lack of actual talent making it.
bros I think im going crazy there was a youtube commercial where a chick is using a pillow for some sleep shit and no joke a jacked up green alien nigga mean mugs and smiles at the camera while in her bedroom and we are outside wtf??!!
>>223358035it's derila-ergo and it wouldn't let me rewind was going to take a picture
>>223357550lol
>>223357550I think it depends on the femoid too.One time I was fucking a hot blonde escort with big tits, but her feet were really stinky for some reason. Didn't like the smell at all. Other girls I fucked some had smelly feet and I enjoyed sniffing them
>>223354136>can teleport>bucket of water works to stand it>teleport into a pool filled with saltwater and live like a kingwas he retarded?
>>223358418A based retard, yes.
