Do they actually only claim people that "deserve" it or ask for it? Because in the manga I hear that they have no problem claiming babiesbesides there are babies in the labyrinth as well so they clearly claimed a fewwatched 2 just now they did leave that retarded girl alone though, so it seems a bit inconsistent, or they're just hypocrites that kinda do whatever feels right
>>223445569Those babies deserved it.
>>223445569They follow the intent of the individuals, so clearly those babies intended to be in their possession.
>>223445632>>223445653this franchise has such an interesting backstory though, different take on hell and what not but I'm convinced it just started as shock value and then evolved not the other way around so its a bit inconsistent i played the demo of that upcoming hellraiser game and decided to finally give it a watch, watching 3 tonight i feel like there had to have been endless cenobites before pinhead for example right, pinhead only joined in the 60s or some shi but there's almost nothing shown of that
>>223445783No, you’re right. I think it did just start as some short story turned movie thing and THEN they started trying to fill backstory for it, at least I think I remember seeing something about that before. It’s a very gnostic view of hell and other realms.
>>223445812the scenes in the leviathan realm are pure kino, shot in a really amazing waythey put the realm into the game 1 to 1 from what I saw i mean people call it hell but its not rly hell, and no one can even guess what leviathan's real goals or motivations are since its a lovecraftian thing, I think they end up banishing it forever in like the year 3000 in one of the new movies, these franchises really go all out now there's also a remake to circle back
>>223445569It has nothing to do with "deserving" it or not. It's if you opened the box. In 2 with the retarded girl it's arguable that she was just an instrument used to open the box at the behest of the doctor. The baby thing in whatever manga you read, I don't know but I'd say if it's not in the books or the movie probably "not canon".
>>223445859comic rather not manga mb i got confused causei read it on a manga site, but i guess the 90s comics aren't techncially canon cause barker wasn't involved directly but what about the people that open the box without knowing what it is in 1 the girl does it and they do try and snag her but after she gets away they kinda leave her alone
>>223445854>the scenes in the leviathan realm are pure kino, shot in a really amazing wayAbsolutely, and my favorite parts of the films, although I do have to say I’ve only seen the first two as I feel the others are just, idk, fanfics or something. Or, at least, it always felt like that to me.
>>223445895think they are canon good or nahmay as well watch em
>>223445854My understanding is it's a sub-realm of Hell ruled by Leviathan. Most of Hell proper is the traditional fire and brimstone.
>>223445888>but what about the people that open the box without knowing what it isMost of the time doesn't matter, you open it you're getting taken that's the way it goes as far as "lore" is concerned. For the sake of storytelling, meaning every movie and book the MC finds some loophole that distracts or redirects the Cenobytes onto another target. So you know like 1 out of let's say every 500 to 1000 people get to go free if they open the box or initiate the opening of the box.
>>223445945Then it’s settled! Tomorrow I’ll marathon them all and, if this thread is still up or another comes along, I’ll post with my honest and worthless opinion.
>>223446007you'll marathon em all in one day? I'd get burned out lmaodoing 1 per day though
>>223446007You don't need to watch it but technically the movie Lord of Illusions is canon to the Clive Barker Hell Raiser universe.
>>223445888>but what about the people that open the box without knowing what it isThe cenobites only care that your intent was to open the box. They don't care if you know what it is. The girl in the first movie only gets away because she makes a deal with them because her murderer uncle escaping them hurt their pride.
>>223446048the movies are filled with hotties btwbut then again all 80s/90s movies were
>>223446081didn't mean to quote that post kekmbbut yeah that makes sensestill I think pinhead could be persuaded to leave some innocent kid alone if he opened the box by mistakehe's the biggest homie among the cenos
>>223446034Well, don’t know about one day, aren’t there about 6 to 8 movies out? Give or take? But I will watch them all now that you guys have given me this interest in getting to know more.>>223446038I’ll add it as well. It’s been ages since I’ve just sat and watched something out of interest. Thanks for the suggestion.
>>223445569>Maybe the cenobite ate yo baby
>>223446048In the original story it is explained the greatest possible pleasure is the momentary escape from unimaginable torment. Frank does not exactly "escape" so much is it is part of the game the centobites and Leviathan are playing. This is all abandoned outside the hellbound heart though.
>>223446081she's rly cute
>>223446081>>223446228geez
>>223446281like wowI dunno what happened10/10 smokeshows with bad acting skills used to be everywhere in moviesnow they're all on onlyfans and the like I suppose and movies are filled w uggos
>>223446120have fun lad
>the truly innocent were safeI guess those babies rly did deserve it
the MC in 3 is also such a babe
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