As an adult I finally understand he was right. Its not the job of the jury to create their own mini court case. The defense attorney clearly fucked up by not examining the witnesses and the kid may have actually be innocent but thats what happens when you have a shitty state appointed lawyer.
>>223457649The racial angle is what kills the movie and turns it into civil rights propaganda. The defendant should have been the same race as everyone else in the movie, that way it's only about what he could or could not have done. By making the kid a non-White and one of the jurors a bigot, the movie goes from "do not convict beyond a reasonable doubt" to "do not convict the racial Other."
Henry Fonda was actually Satan
>>223457852true
>>223457839There's no racial angle, but a class one.
>>223459768wrong one of the jurors is a racist. in the remake he (bubba from forest gump) even says the race.
>>223457839fpbp, media literacy among gentiles is reaching record highs
>>223457649>>223457852The old man was worse than Fonda's character.Fonda's character was just too smart for his own good and very dedicated to giving everyone the benefit of the doubt no matter what.The geezer was exactly the same as the old man witness - and old dog that never did anything important but wanted to grandstand for once in his life. He always took the chance to make some sermon that would elevate himself above the others.
>>223457839The real issue is that because the kid is non-white his actual guilt/innocence in this case is irrelevant. Even if he didn’t kill someone at this point it’s almost certain that his savage nature will compel him to commit heinous crimes in the near future.
>>223457649Juries can do whatever the fuck they want, there is a reason jury nullification exists. The idea that they have to act a certain way or think a certain way is modern anti-populist propaganda.
They have been doing this morally relativistic shit forever. Primetime did not come out of a vacuum. There is this one and there is that piece of shit M where they try to make you feel sorry for the child killer at the end.
>>223459805>he is because in the remakeThat's a different movie you stupid fuck.
>let a murderer go free because one of the witness was old so he had to be lying because of his age and another witness had a tiny mark on her nose so she's obviously blind as a bat and was lying about everything
>>223457649this is why i'm glad i live in a country without juries
>>223460535I had a bizarre argument with some American who told me that having professional judges deciding guilt was classist and eliminates the common man from the equation. As if I want a bunch of hairdressers and cab drivers deciding if I'm guilty or not
>>223457649Glasses juror was the only proper juror. >looks at the evidence empirically >concludes that the boy is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt He shouldn’t have fallen for the glasses-dimple gambit.
>>223460631aparently people in the US all get the same quality of legal representation
>>223457649i like the baseball fan the best, a man denied his /sp/ thread
>>223460535Without the jury you'd have been executed as an innocent man though???
>>223457839This.
>>223460855nah, the judge would make the right decision, and if not, the judge above him would review his reasoning and if that fails i'd appealor just bribe the judge
>>223460631you can request a bench trial instead of a jury trial. It depends on the case whether you should do that or not
>>223457839It was a black guy that vaginablocked the evil white women shits that wanted Clansy freed, so I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt that is shown in this movie.
>>223457852Fuck Henry Fonda and fuck his commie cunt daughter
>>223457839>the scene where the bigot guy is vaguely racist and the entire jury stands up and looks away disappointingly as he chuds out without going into specificsLmao, very weird scene in an otherwise great movie
I have never been a jury, but is it standard for a juror to discredit a witness by making up a scenario that was never brought up during the court session?
>>223461213What are you saying? Don't you think it's normal to think a witness is lying and want someone dead because he's an old man... or that a witness is 100% blind and wants the kid dead because she's.... blind?
>>223461213I've been part of multiple juries and yes jurors will make shit up instead of just looking at what was presented in court like you're supposed to.
This is why people shoot judges. Your life hangs on the scale according to twelve random fuckwits pulled from the streets
>you don't remember ANYTHING about a movie you watched 5min ago?>That's the exact same as thinking Johnny was the actor for the movie you watched 3 weeks ago and not Johan.How come non of the other juries every actually argued against any of the retarded points Fonda did?
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>>223457649>stab wound angle was downwards>Fonda was 185.4cm>average P.R. height was 170.7cm in 1956The reality is that Juror 8 killed the kid's dad, but what was his motive?
>>223461427>How come non of the other juries every actually argued against any of the retarded points Fonda did?because the movie falls apart if he gets any kind of serious, logical pushback>"How do you know the woman needs glasses to see what happened? What if they're for reading or she wears sunglasses a lot? It would still leave the indent">"How do you know the old man is testifying just for the attention? Because he's wearing a nice suit? It's more likely he just wants to look presentable in court for a serious matter."
>>223461620This is another retarded point. It's entirely possible for a shorter killer to have stabbed at a downward angle during a struggle or they're standing up but he does an overhead attack.
