>"hey what if we gave Spiderman a great new love interest?">"HA just kidding she's gone"What the fuck was this movie's problem?
>>223472676gingers are not allowed to reproduce according to hollykikes
jews
>>223472676Zendaya > some chopped mid bitch
>>223472690Unless it's a big black buck. Hopefully they will give Jean a proper bull love interest instead of this wimpy whiteboi
>>223472676i don't think Jean was positioned to be a love interest, probably a close friend. but it's funny how even that somehow felt more genuine and intimate than 3 movies that attempted to sell Zendaya as a love interest
>>223472735based
>>223472676i watched this flick in august alongside two guys and two girls and after the movie all five of us agreed she should have played MJbut we're in the gay timeline so that was never going to happen
>>223472676>have character be objectively evil>no but wait she has girl trauma so just give her a chance
>>223472749This. There was no love interest vibes there at all. He's basically acting as a mentor. But touch starved retards don't get platonic relationships.
>>223472995i think it's more about Holland Spidey's romances being so unconvincing and lame, that seeing a genuine and strong connection with a female character even if it's just friendship feels very refreshing and makes the prior romances look even lamer
>>223472726She isn't even Z's competition, Tom basically does not see her as a romantic interest, his eyes are literally on Z and he loves Z so much
>>223473096hi Zendaya
>>223472726that mystery meat amerimutt wishes she was some chopped mid bitch. I'm still amazed that everybody isn't repulsed by her.
>>223472676can't have anyone overshadowing Hollywood's pet monkey, troondaya
>>223472676This movie was infuriating.The first three MCU Spiderman films took Tom Holland, who has the makings of a genuinely solid Spiderman, and saddled him with some of the worst supporting characters in superhero history. Love interests and sidekicks who ranged between annoying and actively repellent, who kept barging into the plot like uninvited relatives taking over the kitchen. MJ was the worst part, she's a walking eye-roll with the charisma of a parking meter. Zero romantic chemistry with Peter despite the actors being married IRL, which is baffling.Then comes the miracle: this movie dumps MJ and Ned into the background for most of its runtime. Holland's Spiderman finally gets to carry a film without being dragged down by everyone around him, and what do you know he's actually good. It's like watching Sisyphus finally set the boulder down and move around freely.It gets even better. Sadie Sink as Jean Grey joins him, and it's like seeing a man who's spent his whole life driving a rusty Fiat Uno get a chance to drive a Porsche 911. Her dynamic with Peter is sharp and well written, and she and Holland need only about sixty seconds to generate a synergy the last three movies couldn't fake between Peter and MJ in over six hours of trying. Next to that, suddenly every Zendaya scene looks like a hostage video (with Peter blinking HELP in Morse code).And then the movie does it. It lets you hope, it lets you enjoy yourself for a moment. It promises a genuinely interesting future for the saga. But then it snatches it all away. Jean is abruptly shoved out of the story with zero closure, and Peter shuffles right back to pining over MJ and Ned again. The movie gives a glimpse of what MCU Spiderman could have been all along and what it could be, then looks you dead in the eye and chooses to delete it and go back to what made the previous movies suck. On purpose. Infuriating.
>>223472676Zendaya doesn't want Tom Holland kissing any other actress that isn't her, which is why Spider Man will never have another love interestShe seems like that type, but she can fuck all her male co stars though
>>223473221the only scene i thought was actually well acted between Holland and Zendaya is when she doesn't recognize him and tells him she doesn't love him
>>223472995What are you talking about? She literally raped him
>>223473247He's 100% going to be Will Smith tier in 15~ years
>>223473221nice. Many of my thoughts covered in a concise manner.SpiderPhoenix 4eva
>>223473251i don't really like Holland but anon do you realize how big of a thing his SP movies are. they're leagues above in popularity/box office profit compared to the other capeshit movies excluding the Avengers movies.i mean will smith is still known and well regarded for his older movies/show
>>223473221>like seeing a man who's spent his whole life driving a rusty Fiat Uno get a chance to drive a Porsche 911.bullseye
>>223473096He's a fucking faggot. They literally cover for each other's homosexuality.
>>223473651I think that poster meant in terms of how buck broken Will is by Jada.Plus he's not going to be Spidey forever. Remember most of his other solo projects failed.
>>223472676sometimes torture is more psychologically effective if you dangle a wonderful treat in front of your prisoner before punching him again
>>223472726doing damage control for a mongrel abomination
>>223472726Seeing Zendaya for the first time in Spiderman: Homecoming was the shock of my life.I was so hyped for a new fresh take on Spiderman that I cagily avoided all marketing materials, all trailers, and all commercials. If I walked by a toy aisle at the store and caught a small glimpse of a Spiderman plushie, I'd look away immediately. I wanted to go into the new saga with an entirely open mind, as pure as an Amish virgin. On opening night I knew Michael Keaton played the antagonist (that much was hard to avoid, even though I shielded my eyes), but little else. I didn't even know which characters from the MCU might show up.When the name of Zendaya's character was revealed to be Mary Jane, I let out an audible gasp. My entire row of filmgoers looked at me like I was nuts, but I couldn't help myself. There before me was the most Simian creature I'd ever seen in New York city. A boyish gorilla girl with huge flaring nigger nostrils and big Nigerian chieftain eyebrows. And apparently she was MJ.Oftentimes film studios will soften the blow by casting Zoe Saldana or Halle Berry... but not this time. This time you were forced to feast your eyes on the brownest most boyish looking ironing board of a woman, blown up forty feet high on an IMAX screen.I looked around, uncomprehendingly, as the rest of the crowd seemed to accept this monstrosity as MJ. Then it occurred to me that I was the only person who hadn't already seen months' worth of marketing materials.Little by little, they had been led to accept this by drips and drabs of commercials, trailers, and TV interviews. Their minds had been so softened that they were willing to stare unflinchingly, calmly, as Zendaya made her signature ZendayaFaces™.Lots of people debate about the exact moment when Spiderman died. I contend it was when that eternally frowning deadpan charisma black hole Zendaya with her Lovecraftian face was revealed as Mary Jane to the audience.
>>223474068She was emo, or whatever the equivalent in 2012 is/was. Do you usually get upset over children’s movies anon?
>>223474098it's a joke reference to this post anon
>>223472676A crucial part of demoralization is the offering of hope then its subsequent destruction. Rather than simply inflicting suffering, one can promise the victim improvement or a better future, only to cruelly take it away. The psychological impact of this tactic is far more potent.
Peter and Jean will most likely interact in Doomsday and Secret Wars
>>223473250Rape is about power, not sex.
>>223472676>What the fuck was this movie's problem?Zendaya.
>>223474896If Tom Holland wasn't a cloested faggot and Zendaya wasn't a cunt, Peter and Jean would interact in the upcoming Spiderman movies too.
>>223473221True.
>>223474954I'm pretty sure Marvel has interns tasked with interpreting social media reactions to their movies, it has steered some of the creative decision making before. There's a more-than-zero chance they saw the overwhelmingly positive response to Peter/Jean and might do something about it. Time will tell. But the chances are low.
>>223474896They will most likely fuck and cuck Zendaya in an extensive 2 minute post credits scene
>>223473221i feel genuinely bad for adult men who have this level of obsession with children's entertainment
>>223475314I like writing, and nothing's happening at my workplace so I might as well shitpost about movies.
>>223475337i think you're missing the pointim not worried about you writing a long postim worried that you have that level of deep insight into the plots and themes and characters and actors in a children's filmits the sort of thing you're supposed to take your kids to for some mindless weekend entertainmentan adult man is not supposed to get "infuriated" over spider man's choice of romantic partners
>>223475623>im worried that you have that level of deep insight into the plots and themes and characters and actors in a children's filmI have that kind of insight with most movies I watch. It's not something I switch off and on. And thinking children's films or childish films can't have plots or themes or character work is naive.
>>223475642you're really gonna keep going with this, huh?you don't pick up the intimate details of the personal relationships of the actors in a children's move just by casually watching itthis is information you had to go out of your way to learn and retaingetting upset because spider man choose the "wrong" love interest is pathetic behavior
>>223475747>because spider man choose the "wrong" love interestIf that's what you think my post boiled down to, you're not very bright.
>>223472676Two straight whites are not allowed to be the main couple anymore, sorry Israel demands it
>>223473121>>223473156>>223473221Mutt MJ is genuinely awful even taking the racism aside. Zoomers say she's the best mj because they're comparing it to the whore MJ from the raimi movies which isn't a high fucking bar. REMINDER the 2nd Spiderman movie just starts with Peter already fallen for MuttJ and we're supposed to just be invested in their relationship eventhough she's just the quirky ugly girl. She's the sidekick's gf tier, not for the main fucking hero ffs
>>223474991Fuck off, artfag.
>>223475961I'd like MJ if she had a personality, or any character, or if the relationship at least had proper buildup or good moments, or if Zendaya actually made faces other than pic related.
>>223474068Lol appreciate the extra effort in altering some of the insults originally meant for boyega
>>223475902it's a weird thing to get so defensive overwe can break it down for you i guess>>223473221you start by discussing your opinion of the main actor in three of these films, comparing him i guess to other spider man actors meaning that you already have a mental catalog of however many of these films they've made over the years, which actors played which characters, and who did the best job of playing the spider manyou're upset over the casting choices and writing, you know about the personal lives of the various actors down to who they're married toyou get embarrassingly verbose while discussing more details of romance (let's remember again that this is a superhero movie for kids)you get upset that your favorite cartoon character isn't being allowed to date the correct fictional girlafter making it very clear that you are extremely emotionally invested in these films, you then declare that they all suck and you're "infuriated" that they didn't let "spider man" date "Jean". what you're doing here is on the level of lecturing on your opinion of the quality of the voice actors for my little ponyit's simple entertainment for children; if you want to devote this sort of energy to analyzing film then at least do it where there is something of substance to analyze rather than wasting it on mindless children's entertainment
>>223476135I never even said it was romantic, it's not. It's not about dating. It's about the movie showing how much better off Spiderman is when it gets rid of the deadweight from the previous films, but then bafflingly choosing to go right back to it. You are retarded, it's embarrassing how much effort and spite you're putting into tearing down a strawman, and I'm not replying to you again.
>>223476179>I never even said it was romantic, it's not. It's not about dating.you literally start off by whining that there is "zero romantic chemistry"but clearly you're too far gone to understand that you're wasting your life expending this effort on children's mediathe unfortunate reality is that there are far too many adult men like you who are deeply emotionally invested in the fictional lives of cartoon characters
>>223476135Zendaya pr team lol
>>223476321>but clearly you're too far gone to understand that you're wasting your life expending this effort on children's mediaanon you are wasting your life dissecting a manchild's /tv/ post, you're arguably worse
>>223476392i do this as a public servicei like to think that every now and then, one of these guys will read my posts and have an epiphany and realize that there are better ways to spend his life than obsessing over capeshit
>>223474903>Rape is about power, not sex.Then why are the victims of rape overwhelmingly attractive women, and unattractive women are rarely targeted?
>>223476470Explain prison rape then.
>>223476544niggas want booty
>>223476544No other choice.
>>223474068a daring synthesisi'll use your image in Dune threads
>>223472676You don't genuinely think Jean and Peter had a romantic dynamic, you're just a brown loser pathetically self-inserting to ship with a white woman (who happens to be under evil feminazi writing, no less)
Trust me dear viewer, it is absolutely vital for my evil plans that Spiderman carries me in a bridal carry.
>>223476449>he said while shitposting on 4chanlol. K
>>223476604they have a very sibling-like dynamic
>>223476686>bridal carrySo what is the next step of her master plan? Mating press?
>>223476823Trvthnvke
>>223476823don't really care what type of dynamic it is as long as there's more of it. they can be enemies or rivals for all i care. all i know is she and peter are just way more fun to watch than zendaya or this creature
>>223473221>she and Holland need only about sixty seconds to generate a synergy the last three movies couldn't fake between Peter and MJ in over six hours of tryinhydrogen bomb of truth
>>2234768204chan is the #1 place my work is neededi'm like jesus going to preach amongst the gamblers and prostitutes
>>223477220humility be dammed
>>223476686MADE FOR EACH OTHER
>>223477001
>>223476823Very troondaya coded post. >>223477220Jesus wasn't a judgemental self righteous douche though.
In a different timeline...
>>223477326its not about being humble or notits just objective realitywhere are you going to find the greatest concentration of freaks and losers?right here, no contest>>223477460jesus was all of those things what are you on abouthe was constantly judging peopleself righteous? he literally claimed to be god, you can't get more self righteous than thatim just a guy telling people that there's more to life than obsessing over the fictional romances of cartoon charactersjesus would agree with me btwif he was here right now he'd say>my son you must set aside your capeshit and devote your time to proper kino, not slop made for children and jeets
>>223477591>where are you going to find the greatest concentration of freaks and losers?what? nah I can name a few places irl in your very own city where losers and degenerates regularly meetup to do God knows what4chan is just full of antisocial weirdos and outcasts with weird opinions
>>223477591>im just a guy telling people that there's more to life than obsessing over the fictional romances of cartoon charactersYou say this while obsessing over an anonymous post on a Vietnamese basket weaving forum. Might want to jump off your high horse, m8.
>>223473221Well said. If this was a genre and specific series where the audience leaned predominantly female there would be no such compromises made.
>>223477633im obviously talking about the internet buddy not irl>>223477660im not obsessing over anything my manive spent maybe a total of 15 minutes in this threadthat said no one is falling for that sad cope of>you're giving me advice regarding an obvious mistake i'm making? omg how dare you get off your high horsethat you're getting this defensive tells me that i hit the nail on the headsimping for capeshit my man come on, you can do better than this
>>223472676She was never a love interest you fucking retard
>>223472676So just because Peter talked to her that time trying to make her feel better telling her that story about his aunt you thought he was in love with her?
>>223477950cool story bro.
>>223477985>>223477988Exactly. The kiss scene was just her messing with Peter.
>>223477950>talking about the internetThere are literal crimes going on in some parts of Facebook and TiktokI shan't be disclosing more information
>>223477985>>223477988i'll simplify it for you tards: spiderman's 'relationship' with mutt mj is lifeless and boring that just seeing him share a nice moment with a girl who LOOKS like the real mj feels like a brief glimpse into a non-gay world
>>223478177But that is what you wanted to happen, not what actually happened in the movie. Peter was just helping her sharing that story, nothing more.
>>223478213>But that is what you wanted to happenwhat i wanted to happen was for mcu peter to have actually good supporting characters and relationships from the start, doesn't matter if friendly or more than that. jean grey is a reminder that it took four fucking movies to accomplish a semblance of that, which is terrible
>>223478073yeah im not law enforcement pal just here spreading the good word
>>223478213>Kiss him>Bridal Carry>Breath for him>You have meMADE FOR EACH OTHER
>>223474098She’s ugly as fuck
>>223478397Canonhead, not reality. Peter still wants to come back with MJ.
>>223476886WITH NO CONTRACEPTIVES!!!
>>223477528>Tobey isn't at a basement poker game hustling random rich kidsNGMI.
>>223473221I find your explanation interesting and will use it as a blueprint for my shitpostingBut I'll never watch the movies and the fact that you watched 3 movies you obviously didn't like and come back for more, says something about you that I'm glad I can't say it about me
>>223473221shipping shit aside, you are 100% correct about Holland being weighed down by his high school friends. they are awful and part of the reason for this movie's hype is that they're mercifully absent for much of it and Holland gets to be Spider-Man without them ruining it
>>223472676>"Hey what if we made Jean Grey a mass murdering psycho who gets away with everything"
>>223479918She never kills anyone that we see. Even if she does, they were New Yorkers so it's a good thing.
>>223479979>She never kills anyone that we see.That guy that is hit by a taxi must have gotten a very bad injury.
peter and jean have the best sibling chemistry
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>>223477001the fact this monstrosity made it through the casting process is still utter insanity to me
>>223481518I just want to repeatedly fertilize a cute feral redhead; is that too much to ask for?
>>223472676She looks like a boy in drag or HRTso fakking saxxxyy gay
>>223476686She literally looks like Ella Hollywood
>>223477528Why are all the women showing off their whore legs and thighs?
>>223483593masculine girl sadie + feminine man tom
>>223472676>"We can't have Peter move on and meet new people"
