>Hasbro describes the Star Wars saga as consisting of "six core films: The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi."Translation: sequel shit doesn't sell, so in the garbage it goes.
>>223547783Nice but the screencap you put up there doesn't say that except in some text from literal who.Also how does it fit in with the rumors that Disney is going to continue with a new Rey-centric trilogy?
That's still 3 too many
>>223547831>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KpTefqDLCI&t=1941s
>>223547844It's said at 32:20 for the lazy fuckers out there
>>223547833yeah, anh, esb, and rotj have been nothing but a drag on the franchise since they got made
>>223547783
>>223547783>lets just forget the other ones, please guys
>>223547783Lol they really are going to retcon the shitquels, aren't they?
Make more Andor
>>223547856>people who don't want to site thru half an hour of star wars toy slop>lazy fuckersKill yourself you fucking faggot
>>223547783>Carrie Fisher dies after making those abominationsWhat an absolute waste. >b-b-but just use AI to make The Thrawn TrilogyI suppose but still...
>>223547957my favourite fact about the production of tlj was that it was so shit that it caused fisher to take up coke again, which ended up killing her right before the movie came out, which tanked disney's entire 'the force is female' shit they had planned
Can you blame them the Kennedy trilogy takes place in less than a year even if it was any good there's almost nothing to merchandise
>>223547783The "sequels" have always been fanfic, people should have realized this after they showed that gorilla's sweaty face in the first trailer.
>>223547984It's also not visually distinct at all because it's so preoccupied with reheating the imagery from the OT to invoke member berries.
>>223547984There's nothing to merchandise, because there's nothing memorable in them. Adam Driver's wonky face? Bodeyga's simian features and woman birthing hips? The soccer ball R2 D2? Nobody wants that shit
>>2235478334
>>223547957>b-b-but just use AI to make The Thrawn Trilogy>I suppose but still...Shut the fuck up, Mike Stoklasa. You hackfraud Gen X faggot. No one wants that.
>>223547984>>223548032Yeah.The Disney movies did an awful job at merchandising the characters.Rey literally wears the same outfit in every single movie.Luke meanwhile had multiple outfits throughout the movies.
Still 3 too many, even though podracing and maul are cool.>Can Hershlag ruin anything?Yes. Except for TP.
>>2235478336
>>223547783What have they done to my Rose!!? This is an outrage.
>>223547917I think it's inevitable. It's poison to a very expensive franchise. The problem is Star Wars is dead and will be for quite some time, even if they do retcon it. Too much fatigue from entirely too many projects that raped it a hundred different ways. When I think of modern Star Wars, I think of modern politics, blue/pink hair, cheap CGI and green screens, marvel color grading, and millennial writing.I can think of only one trilogy that they could possibly successfully pull off, but they won't do what needs to be done to do it. It would be a Knights of the Old Republic trilogy, made up of good looking (majority) white actors, written by competent people (read: not women), using real sets for foregrounds/actor areas, and no new bullshit lore about the force or some new stupid weapons.
>>223547984>less than a yearIsn't it something like a week or a month at most? TFA and TLJ take place over a weekend.
>>223548764Chop chop, Fisher is already dead and Hamill and Ford aren't getting any younger
>>223548032Come on anon, you've got>old and busted Han>old and busted Luke>old and busted Leia>rey>chubby asian girl>laura dernOkay fuck well at least they've got the vehicles right? They can sell models and lego kits and toys for>X-wing, but slightly different>TIE fighter, but slightly different>the Falcon, but slightly different>TIE interceptor, but squished down flat>Star Destroyer, but squished down flat...fuck yeah okay they got nothing
>>223548835I honestly don't know who wanted to see a bunch of geriatric actors dragging themselves around a CGI stage in the first place.
>>223548852It would've been cool to see the gang back together
>>223547957Who cares? She got grandfathered in but her character and her acting was shit. Her looks were also non-existent. An ugly woman who can't act and that's forever Leia and I fucking hate it
>>223547856anon posted it with a timecode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHowJ7ULNfo
>>223547917They really should. They're just terrible films with terrible characters. The only saving grace was the Mandalorian where they brought back Luke post Jedi, which is what the sequels should be about. Jedi Luke starting a Jedi Academy and training new Force users, which Mandalorian sort of dabbled on with training Baby Grogu. Even when I was young that's all I wanted for the sequels, just Luke starting a new Jedi Academy. Not this bullshit about Rey and killing off Luke, Han, and Leia.
>>223548913KK was actually Palpatine. She wanted to destroy starwars the entire time and she never liked the fanbase. She hated playing second fiddle to Lucas. She hated being around the constant nerd shit and felt she was more important than she was. It was a revenge trip, nothing more. One she got paid to go on.
>>223549128Luke rebuilding the Jedi should be a show.The sequels should start with the New Jedi Order fully established and facing a new threat that serves as a test for the New Republic and NJO to prove they are the real deal and not just a bunch of people playing pretend
>>223547783Star Wars got saturated with garbage
>>223547833>That's still 3 too many
>>223549277The best thing is they can't go back and do that now without retconning the sequels, not even with CGI Luke or by recasting him, because everyone knows that he fucks it all up thanks to TLJ.
>>223547917I don't think they have it in them to actively retcon them, but I think they'll just pretend they didn't exist and never do any material for their era again if ever. Expect most SW stuff to be set in Old Republic, PT or OT eras, or at least in remote regions of the galaxy with barely anything to do with the mainline stuff.
The sequel trilogy are going to be written off as like a what if scenario arent they lol
>>223547917Last I heard Starfighter was supposed to tie into a post-sequel storyline with Rey, but I wouldn't be surprised if we find out it's gone through a bunch of frantic last-minute rewrites just like practically every other disney wars movie kek
Retconing the sequels won't matter because Disney still refuses to hire talent.Reminder that they are planning to have a new trilogy written by the guy who wrote X-Men 3 and Dark Phoenix.If they keep treating Star Wars as if it was the MCU nothing will change.The sequels need to be LOTR-tier in order to revive interest.
>>223549318And that's a good thing.
>>223547957They should treat is like a PC game. Leia and Han are distant VIPs and appear only as holograms during a Very Important Briefing.
>>223549310It wouldn't even be that hard to write around the sequels seeing as nothing that really happens in the movies actually affects the galaxy at large.>some random system that nobody's ever heard of gets blown up, but Coruscant is still fine and nobody on any other planet seems to care or even notice like a day later>the OT heroes all die, but they were getting old anyway so that's expected>Luke had a Jedi temple (maybe? more of a Jedi shack) but then he got bored of that and gave up, his students who turned evil all got killed in like a fucking minute so who gives a shit>there was a nu-Empire and Palpatine came back for like a week but he died again and they all blew up without doing anything really so it's cool>we established that you can ram shit in hyperspace but then ran that back just as quickly because apparently it's really stupid so just forget that, thank youI forget if anything else happened.
>>223549308There will be no retcon. They will simply pretend the sequels never happened. What the Despot Antrim guy said 2 years ago.
>>223549391That's what I mean though, they can't just make a Jedi Academy series or movie or whatever with Luke in it without having people point out that TLJ still exists. I'm sure they'll try to pretend it doesn't but everyone already knows that it ends with Luke becoming a pathetic cuck.
>>223547783Yeah, nobody wants to buy "Chubby Chinese Janitor", "Orange Butthole Eyes" or "Black Man with Child-Bearing Hips" action figures. Even Kylo Ren's (the only one that seems like a genuine Star Wars character) outfit looks like nothing without his helmet/lightsaber.There's simply nothing "iconic" in the Sequels.
>>223549977>There's simply nothing "iconic" in the Sequels.True and checked.But I would argue TLJ was the only movie with "iconic" scenes that were original, not just a rehash of something from the OT. All of them retarded, terrible and off- putting.
>>223549977>>223550050Somehow Palpatine returned is iconic but in all the wrong ways
>>223548870No it wouldn't. You're not asking for a good movie experience, you're asking for the memory of a good movie. Great shows can be made with casting people for their talents and aesthetic, rather than star power. Ford wouldn't even want to do the movie because he hates modern moviemaking, to say nothing of his open contempt towards Star Wars. Bury the past - kill it if you have to. Star Wars will never get better if it's shackled to reminding people of 2002 or 1983.The issue is more complicated than de-canonizing the sequels. There are buckets of novels written on the time period between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. The Aftermath series by Chuck Wendig is by far the most egregious as it ossified the post-Empire period into a gay liberal fagfest where the Empire completely collapsed and everything was hunky-dory, but we can't forget the "High Republic" either. You remember the High Republic, right? The time period 200 years before Phantom Menace. The interim is shit, the sequel era is shit, the post-sequels era is shit, the pre-prequel era is shit. Everything Disney has done is shit. Star Wars has been so thoroughly saturated with gangrene that you can't really write anywhere without smelling the rot. Even if you decanonize the sequels, you have to then decanonize all those novels, all those cartoons, all those games. It's a nightmare for a corporation, especially one as foul as Disney.
>>223547783Rey dreamt it all up while she was touvhing herself
>>223548838>I-is that a somewhat original design?! CUT THAT SHIT!>But Mr. Mouse, we already made the merchandise fo...>I SAID CUT THAT SHIT!!!!
>>223550269lol a monke
>>223547783They're right. But mostly because those movies aren't related to Star Wars, they're some bizarre hate project by Disney to ruin Star Wars. so fuck those movies.
>>223550207They completely forgot about the billion dollar media push that was High Republic era, that completely failed. They claim there is nothing there to merchandise but the reality is they tried. Now they're just patches of the pacific northwest trash continent with rose tico action figures in it. I can't wait for you fuckers to eat more shit soup. Every single OTfag on here definitely enjoys swallowing.
>>223550269And speaking of Lego, not even those license-whores are touching the sequel trilogy with a ten foot pole.Pretty much all the (play) sets from them came out with the movies and the only one in recent times was a horribly overpriced BB8.
>>223549323I'd go and see Starfighter if they changed it so it doesn't tie into the sequels.
He lost.
>>223550487Sequels being mediocre won't make the prequels good
>>223550520Turns out they do actually.
>>223547917They should had never retconned the old eu.
>>223547783It's all garbage from the first to the last.
>>223550520You lost, xoomer.
>>223547984Cuntleen lied through her teeth about george and both lucasfilm and lucasarts, all to gain power, all because her shitty caravan of courage movies were utter garbage and rightfully mocked for trying to turn srar wars into barney get along gang carebears shit, it fucked any use of ewoks forever because of that.Now everyone knows the truth.
>>223547833BASED
>>223549246Her entire asspain is related to ewok's tale being garbage when she thought it was good because it was her idea.Meanwhile george was playtesting videogames and making good shit.She is literally josh from eltingville club.
>>223550207>Even if you decanonize the sequels, you have to then decanonize all those novels, all those cartoons, all those games.Why do you think that's hard to do? The Sequel Trilogy decanonized the EU and there's very little from the Disney era that has a huge fanbase.
>>223547833>>223548073>>223548702>>223550627Reddit Xoilennials spotted
>>223547917No. That would be admitting defeat. They'll be defiant even as the studio is being dismantled and sold off for scrap.
>>223550487One day it's going to hit him like a train.
>>223547783Translation the manchildren were too old when the sequels came out to spend thousands on legos of it
>>223549323They just announced with much fanfare that they're making three new Skywalker Saga movies set post-Sequels, that means Rey in a starring role, *maybe* some Luke force ghost cameos. Now sure, their track record of announced films actually getting made is tiny, but it's more likely they've decided to go all-in and pushed that Daisy solo movie into a full trilogy in a last ditch attempt to salvage the Shitquels than it is that they would ever, ever admit they fucked it.
>>223547957>b-b-but just use AI to make The Thrawn TrilogyThis looks pretty good.https://youtu.be/LIeXCZ2UbTg?is=QyXYYQ2CnGvEb2Bp
>>223548838Blame the old heads for bitching about the prequels having its own identity. Fat fucks sid this.
>>223550900Translation the Sequel Trilogy only appealed to aging performative midwits and no one else
How did Disney fuck up so much was it letting Abrams be involved?
>>223547917Yes they are. They've already done it before with Marvel. Everyone who has seen Infinity War and Endgame has already experienced what they can do. Good ole time travel just fixes problems right up. They've already introduced in Star Wars how they'll do it. The world between worlds. They've shown it off multiple times, most recently in the Ahsoka series. It connects all of time in one place. They'll simply have someone use it to go back and change things, completely wipe the sequel trilogy right out of existence. They'll refer to it as an erased timeline. Easy way to introduce new foes, have time traveling Sith or someone else trying to remake the galaxy by abusing time. Also an easy way to have more cameos by older characters with people hopping through timeIf you can't sell it, erase it and replace it
>>223550941Beggar's Csnyon is pretty good too. It takes place between ESB and RotJ.https://youtu.be/SGJC4Hnz3m0?is=mqRkZM5gfIz0ngVP
>>223549387Right but the problem with that is exactly that the whole OT cast failed and died miserably for no reason in a complete nothingburger of plot. You can't just move past that and expect the people repulsed by it to come back, and the Shitquels weren't good enough to create a significant new fanbase of its own that can support the franchise going forward.They have three pathways to salvaging the franchise.1. Officially, openly, and loudly decanonise the Shitquels. Full on Mea Culpa, copious eating of humble crow pie, borderline self-flagellation from those involved. Then adapt(ie, take the good bits and ignore the really fucking wonko stuff) the EU with the OT characters recast(or AI some body doubles, IDGAF). Ideally before Furloni buttrapes Thrawn any harder and ruins Heir to the Empire.2. Use World Between Worlds bullshit to imply that people can basically choose whatever canon they like for the Sequel era, then shitcan Rey Palpatine and any further mention of the Shitquels, instead jumping ahead to 100+ years after the OT so they only ever have to refer to that period in vague terms that could be interpreted however the viewer likes, and start over. Whether edgelord Cade Skywalker would work or not who knows, do something original if they want, but at all costs Don't Mention The War.3. Mothball the franchise completely for several decades until all the people they've pissed off are either dead or senile, then start over from scratch.1 will never happen because they will never admit fault, it would tank the share price. 2 will never happen because abandoning Rey would be conceding to the Chuds and despite Kathy being gone all the screeching HR hags she installed across the company are still there. 3 will never happen because it would involve not milking every last possible penny out of the IP before the next quarterly report. So in short, they won't fix the franchise, they'll keep fucking up.
>>223548032>>223548838RLM did this.
>>223547917kinda hope so.>one mediocre as fuck retread film>an absolute dumpster fire full of heckin' subversion>don't even know how to belittle ROS because i still haven't seen itgo back to the OT and give me a 30 hour video game about piloting land vehicles for the empire or something and maybe i'll buy star wars shit again
>>223550996Yes
>>223550941I was hype for those at first, but he's including Sequel/Filonishit in it for some dumb fucking reason, it's not a proper adaptation.
>>223551108>he's including Sequel/Filonishit in it for some dumb fucking reasonHe's only including the Rebels stuff to make it more valid. There's no sequel stuff included. It's a replacement for them.
>>223551253>He's only including the Rebels stuff to make it more validhttps://youtu.be/C8ucLgJS9i0?is=Lw3ZtnyLSqCqEcBu
>>223547856>lazy fuckersWhy wouldn’t you just timestamp it. Too retarded?
>>223550294>OT purists are the ones that love Disney Wars. Anon, you may possibly be young but you are definitely retarded.
>>223551282The RotJ epilogue also brings in KOTOR elements and is a direct prequel to Heir.https://youtu.be/m_7-dbsNL_A?is=XpWluCOG0nwWmspd
>>223551023>Good ole time travel just fixes problems right up.>>223551086>World Between Worlds bullshitNo no no no noTime travel is how you kill the franchise definitely. It makes everything irrelevant, and whatever is left of the plot gets convoluted beyond comprehension.See Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, how the time travel made cheap and easily available collapsed the whole setting rather than expand it.
>>223550520>mediocrethey are worse than trash
>>223550520Prequels were mediocre and the sequels are unfiltered sewage
>>223550520>mediocreInsane cope, if they were just mediocre and not turds we wouldn't even be talking about this.
>>223548032May I interest you in
Any retard using nerdspeak and describing loopholes in the Star Wars lore is ngmi in Hollywood
>>223549128>>223549277If you unironically like CGI cartoon monster homunculus Luke Skywalker you are a soulless NPC
Anyone remember that guy that bought hundreds of Rose Tico figures because everyone accused him of being racist for not liking her character in the movie?
>>223547783EXPAND THE CORE BY 3COMPLETE GEORGE'S FINAL TRILOGY FAGGOTS
>>223548835>Age of Adeline
Just fucking give it to Peter Jackson already
>>223547783everyone knew that already besides gay fags
Star Wars is shit. Star Wars fans are subhuman manchildren. Why can't this shit just go away. How much longer can you jerk this garbage. It's been 50 years. 50 years of retards obsessing over soulless merchandise machine.
>>223551903Get raped
>Hasbro describesi thought disney made the rules?
>>223551951If they're describing it like that, then Disney told them to
My favorite Star Wars movie is The Phantom Menace.
>>223551903>why do you read The Hunchback of Notre-Dame, it's been 150 years. How much longer can you jerk this garbage
>>223548735Despite all that fat they couldn't get a single meal out of her. Sad.
only the OT is core star warsthe rest is trash
>>223548735It's unbelievable how Disney turned this lovely pudding into an asexual shapeless piece of cardboard
It's not funny guys, think about the feelings of the kids that grew up with the sequels.
>>223551913this is what lucas said after shitting out the prequels
>>223550269>AT-ST but with retarded legsThe creative bankruptcy of Disney Star Wars enrages me to my core.
The honest truth is the Prequels are beloved by everyone.
>>223548852A "council of elders" approach would have worked early on in episode 7, have Han, Leia and Lando in a command bridge overseeing an operation headed by Poe to intercept an organized faction of empire remnants, Poe captures Finn and after interrogating him and finding out about a sith lord working in the shadows have Han, Lando and Leia go tell Luke who's in a meditation chamber of sorts, then introduce Rey as his apprentice. There, you already have the old cast reunite within the first 30 minutes of the movie while also introducing the new trio.
I mean yeah the sequel trilogy is shit but you can't deny Daisy Ridley is attractive >>>/hr/5188289
>>223552275>only 1 facial expressionreplace her with a third- rate porn "actress" and there won't be any difference
>>223550207https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyu-WY7cZek
>>223552161>As a sequel kidThat's clearly written by someone middle aged
Yet Yidney is still commited to do 3 more Ray movies. Are they out of their fucking minds at this point?They could LITERALLY at any point make a new sequel film starring the original characters either CGI animated or AI deep faked since they all sold their rights to their fucking faces as evidenced before
>>223552836>if Larry Fink wants moar he will get moar
>>223547917I think there's a schism going on at the moment.You have this and the star wars day shit (picrel).But then you have the announcement the other day that they've apparently greenlit episode 10.
>>223551023Sequel trilogy is the timeline where Ahsoka stays dead after Vader kills her in Rebels. You hear her disembodied voice at the end when Rey is becoming all the jedi. Ezra using the world between worlds to rescue her creates the possibility that the canon doesn't need to go that direction.
>>223547783Why did Based George sell Star Wars to white slavers????????
>>223553160>what a trustworthy fella, I can't imagine how he could possibly lie to meJokes aside, it's strange when you remember Lucas worked with KK and he was convinced she won't fuck this up.Disney and Blackrock slaughtered this franchise.
>>223548823Between tfa and tlj was maybe a few hours and then a year time skip for ros but that would just be them doing nothing important until ros gave them that map
Disney financial releases say they have made $12 billion in revenue from the Star Wars brand since acquiring it. That's revenue, not profit, so you have to subtract the production and marketing costs of everything they've made. Is that a good return on a $4 billion investment after all these years, compared to other things they could have put that money towards?
>>223550928>with much fanfareLOLno>>223553124Vader never killed Ahsoka in Rebels. In the original airing of Twilight of the Apprentice you can see her going down into the depths of the temple at the end. And they officially said that hearing a Jedi speak in that shitty movie didn't mean that the Jedi was in fact dead.
>>223552234lol
>>223552234true
>>223552234Everyone agrees.
It's interesting isn't it.The goal is to poison everything that influences us yes it seems star wars had such a lethal dose that people no longer give a fuck about modern star wars. Thus it no longer influences the masses to the degree that it used to and there is no replacement.
>>223553160Red Letter Media bullied and threatened him to do so.Mike Stoklasa also forced Disney to have JJ Abrams direct and write The Force Awakens as he wanted.
>>223554807He also triggered the domino effect leading to GamerGate and then to Trump getting elected in 2016.Great job Mike.
>>223547919Andor is a corpse. You can't do more stories with him
>Retcon the sequel trilogy out of existence>Have Lucas get heavily involved in the new ST (he doesn't have to write the dialogue or direct everything, but the overall story will be his)Here how to get people back in Nu Wars
>>223547783Hasbro is still clinging to prequel trash huh? Those prequeltrannies keep losing action figures up their manginas I guess
>>223554807How is he so powerful? Is he a sith lord? Is it possible to learn this power?
I thought they were making Episode 10 that basically continues from Episode 9? Even if they retconned the slopquels, it's not like they're going to put out anything better regardless. Star Wars is dead kek
>>223555183He's got the museum done so honestly this would be the best swan song. Jon watts is not the right director though, you need someone with skill and style already that can withstand lucas. I would seriously like to see a Fincher starwars movie. Or someone of that caliber, fuck maybe even peter jackson. You need someone with skill like Kirshner.
>>223555253The problem is starfighter is a bridge/test movie to see if starwars can even sell still and it will have Rey at end of the movie, you need a soft-boot the whole series again but somehow make use of her.
>>223547917Listen man, all I wanted to see was Luke building his new jedi order while helping Han and Leia with the new republic stuff and fighting empire remanants
>>223555204Prequels are beloved and the ST is getting retconned out of existence.You have lost.
>>223547917dual timelines. ashoka living/dying to vader will be the timeline split
>>223555287Maybe they should just focus on making One Good Movie. The last genuinely quality film in the franchise was Empire Strikes Back. It's been over 40 years since there was just a good Star Wars film. It's really almost baffling how bad these fucking men are at their jobs.
How about they do a pre-prequel trilogy
>>223555292Best we can do is a mary sue, a ngubu, asian dumpling lady, and a chud
>>223547783Ah man... I really wanted a Black Series "This is Calrissia" playset with a young shirtless Lando shooting a blindfolded Rhodian in the back of the head.
>>223555327They tried a high republic series and it flopped
the prequels did make a ton of money off merchandising. The flip side is it also killed collector culture. But that was on purpose.
>>223555297You're seriously retarded if you think anyone is defending the sequels without sarcasm. The prequels suck, end of story.
>>223555254Michael Bay is the last hope of SW
>>223555357Prequels had some interesting visuals despite the abondance of CGI that didn't age that well.Sequels is so devoid of identity there's no reason to not buy OT stuff instead
>>223555365ur mom sucks bush
Too late. You killed everyone in the lore. Making the sequels go away is pointless now since you can't do a movie with Han, Leia and Luke
>>223555421>Sequels is so devoid of identity there's no reason to not buy OT stuff insteadThis. Abram's sequels can be summarized as>OT but worse
>>223555438Maybe we can make something new instead of rehashing nostalgia?
>>223553060it's entirely possible the announcements for future projects is entirely to appease shareholders and zero actual intent to make themafter 7 years of tv shows after the abomination that was tros and the flop of the baby yeed movie, the smart move would be to go dormant with star wars for a whilemaybe release vidya and other media to keep it somewhat 'relevant', but to actually salvage the brand disney would need to either do a full reboot of the franchise or start making films/ shows that are completely detached from the lucas era
>>223552270Here my original sequel trilogy>first movie is a about a young force sensitive guy, he heard about Luke's academy and want to go but he have neither ship nor money, he live wacky adventure around the galaxy, and met a cute alien girl who will come with him, ending is him getting a padawn's tail>Second movie is about him being trained by Kyle Katarn, they must go to the new republic HQ to deliver a secret message : Luke felt siths coming back>3rd film is the guy being a master and having his own padawn, fighting the siths
>>223555483>it's entirely possible the announcements for future projects is entirely to appease shareholders and zero actual intent to make themIt's partially that but also to get people's names out there to show they still have a career
>>223547783GEORGEFUCKING WON
>>223553060>I think there's a schism going on at the moment.Kathleen Kennedy serving as shadow President through her handpicked successors Filoni & Brennan versus top Disney leadership
>>223553160he was under the impression that he'd still be the main creative force on the sequels or at least a consultant. instead they stopped answering his calls, threw away his planned sequel trilogy and replaced it with their own shit that openly mocks his intent for the saga. in short, he got jewed.
>>223548764NahIf they retconned them, people would immediately start talking about it. People love it. They just dont like the Disney ones. It really is that simple.A new "Episode VII" trailer dropping would get a huge amount of attention.
>>223555409>Michael Bay is the last hope of SWUnironically this.
>>223555764>Episode VIIIt's fortunate that the Disney movies didn't have the episode titles. Makes it easier to pretend they don't exist.
>>223547783AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>223550207You are a better writer than anyone who’s worked on Nuwars. I mean that sincerely.
>>223550996Without doubt. He ruined Star Trek, too. Fucking fraud.
>>223551350They loved the idea of Lucas selling to Disney, they fucking celebrated on here. I am avowed prequelfag, I remember every day getting into arguments with otfags and then when plinkett reviews came out, get fucked Otfag. I am not as old as Otfags but I am still old. Otfuckfaces were hyperventaliating at the idea of them shitting on prequels and championed the shit we got. Much like the fuckers trying to force covid restriction shit on everyone and then trying to conveniently forget they did that, OTfags are the curse that brought on the shitty ass sequels. Same faggots that screamed bloody murder when chewbacca got killed off in the books as if these characters can never die.
How funny is it that they went from pretending the prequels never happened to pretending the sequels never happened.
>>223557229Accurate
>>223557230Remember when every Redditor and RLM fanboy were ejaculating at TFA and then they had all to had to kneel to George Lucas prequel kino in the end?
>>223548764>It would be a Knights of the Old Republic trilogyAre you a fucking moron? KotOR 1 and the search for the Star Forge is literally Episode 9.
>>223557467They were too ashamed to admit it, but that's what eventually happened.
RLM lost.Lucas won.
>>223557230Maybe if they had some balls and actually try putting out stuff post sequel they might have some ground swell, but they really don't know what to do with this shit and I bet internally they were going to make the next three closer to the the end of tros and didn't want to accidently fuck themselves
>>223551086Rolling things back to 2012 would be ideal, but it's a bit too late for that. The EU is too old to be continued, what Furloni's gonna be doing now is an EU tribute band but centered around his OC Ahsoka.Ahsoka gets to stop Thrawn, fight the Vong and Abeloth.>>223550941Ideally, yeah, AI is making us a better Star Wars than Disney ever could've hoped to make.
>>223554807The world would be a better place if someone invented a Time Machine and stopped Mike Stoklasa from being born.
Somehow... chuds won...
>>223557598nta but just make it about a young Revan fighting in the Mandalorian wars.
>>223557885It's impossible to release a good fiction under the corporate ESG regime. Whatever they do next, it will be the same majestic fuckup as before.
>>223558188Yeah but it won't matter soon anyway. Within a few years, a homebrew AI will be able to get you a feature-length movie with prime Mark Hamill.
>>223547783I dont understand how they think they can throw away an entire peoples history.
>>223547783It never was. In fact Disney´s never made a piece of SW media since they bought the IP. When you consider the narrative style, the tone, the cinematography and even the production format it becomes evident that Star Wars and Disney Wars are just different things. It´s just that simple. Disney always saw the brand name as nothing more than an existing market for their own thing, which again is not SW. All they did was take some of the most shallow and recognizable trademarked elements from the IP to try to convince people that it was. What they ended up making has more in common with stuff like Rebel moon than it does with SW. Honestly as long as they don´t understand or accept the traits that define SW identity they´ll just keep failing even if by some miracle they happen to make something that would be acceptable if it wasn´t attached to the brand.
>>223548764For all the shit you put on the sequel movies, KOTOR is just fanfiction of those.
>>223557713Mike having to apologize to the prequels and then Rich seethe grumbling "The prequels are still utter shit" was just utterly embarrassing
>>223547783>retards still buy star wars toyslol
>>223559212Are you grannies STILL upset about that? The prequels suck pick and they always will
>>223559279I am collected, calm, and flourishing. I'm simply trying to express the fraudulence encompassed by RedLetterMedia. Hack frauds, if you will.
>>223547919God no. Andor was so charmless
>>223548764>Knights of the Old RepublicYes, or set a sequel 1000 years after the original movies Just no more Skywalkers, please
>>223558958Yes but KotOR did it well
>>223547783No one has failed in life at something so simple and easy to accomplish than Kathleen Kennedy.
>>223547984It's nothing but humans, Temu versions of OT iconography, painfully generic droids, and squint-eyed mole rat aliens.
>>223547783How did we go from "Disney will retcon the prequels" (that was an unironic take ~10 years ago here) to this?
>>223559279Grannies are the one still seething about the Prequels, you grannie
>>223553160>white slavers What did George mean by this?
women ruined star wars.
>>223560219Women ruin everything. Remember when they would just buy cell phone ring tones and do their makeup?
>>223560046white people who enslave other whites
>>223560046He was talking about the Kaminoans
So the objetive of Starfighter is to introduce Ryan Gosling as a new character and to set up the world of the new trilogy.Apparently Gosling's character is protecting some force sensitive child and the bad guy is a former First Order general hat is now a regional war lord and that has a force sensitive assassin at his orders.If they plan to make Rey the protagonist of the next trilogy, what it could be about? Rey rebuilding the Jedi Order? But who is the big enemy? Because I don't think regional warlords and some force sensitive assassins could be that. So the Sith still exist someone? Do you think they will move beyond the Jedi vs Sith world?
stop hiring women.
>>223547917The won’t. They’ll try to ignore them as long as possible but they have tied too much of their shows and newest releases to them.
harrison ford will shoot a man instead of star in another star wars film
>>223557229>OTfags are the curse that brought on the shitty ass sequels.This was the flaw with the entire sequel shit fest it was made by genx for genx the whole thing was a garbage remake of the OT. If Disney was smart they would have made it for zoomers and gen alpha kids like Lucas would have done. But then they also shut down Lucas arts that was where they really fucked up
>>223548835KOTOR is way before the OT if I remember right. No need for Hamill or Harrison.
>>223552270The people in charge think pissing off old fans is how you make new fans, you have to look at every decision through that lens
>>223560323>Not-Warlord Zsinj has Not-Mara Jade going after Not-Corran Horn who has to take Not-Kyp Durron to Rey's Not-Jedi AcademySounds like they're trying to loosely adapt the EU state with all the former Imperial warlords, except it's all post-sequel shit so nobody cares.Somehow we're expected to believe this all happens after the First Order breaks apart, a minor fringe faction on the Outer Rim, but not when the galaxy-spanning Empire does? Retarded.
>>223562444>Force CommanderHoly shit I always forget this exists, probably because it came out right before Galactic Battlegrounds which I also usually forget about
>>223553060There's no sequel shit in this poster because it's almost all characters from the video games aside from Luke, Vader, Maul and Mando/Yeed, and the sequels don't have any games because nothing of note happens in them to make a game around.
>>223547783>B...but we consumed how could you do this to us!
>>223563095this pic is funnier when you learn these two were disney employees
They actually can't fix Star Wars at this point. The damage has been done.
>>223547833It ended with ESB and lucas is still finding a satisfying way to conclude the story without rehashing the death star or out of place walking toys
>>223547957Han & Luke having a scene together in a flashback is close to what people wanted out of the sequels. Sure you won’t have everybody, but that’s why you don’t let hacks like Rian or JewJew Abrams direct them. Better hurry too since Ford & Hamill are pushing 70.
You guys forgot when the app driven bb8s were a thing
All Nu Wars is faggot shit
>>223557885>the EU is too old to be continuedNah. Your characterisation of what Furloni is gonna do is accurate, but if they want to save the franchise they should stop him immediately(ideally with a bullet to the back of the head) and declare their intention to create a curated new canon taking the best of the EU(original Tales of the Jedi, KotOR, Bane, X-Wing, Thrawn, revised Vong War, revised Fate, revised Legacy) and the best of Disney(erm...Maul Shadowlord I guess, since that lets them do the criminal empire half of the Lucas sequel concepts, and they can insert the Force shenanigans part into the revised version of Fate & Legacy). Not only would this win over oldfans(not all obviously, but most), but it would generate immediate buzz and providing they have print runs ready to rock a big bump in sales for the picked out "Legends" novels. They could even resolve the argument over Clones to a degree by fusing the two concepts: 99% of Clones simply obeyed the order and transitioned into serving the Empire because that was an order as well, and the chips were a last-resort failsafe that were only actually needed for a handful of the legitimately outlier clones like Rex(it would be a fun irony and a reinforcement of the themes of Order 66 if the chip was unnecessary for almost every clone exactly because the Jedi who commanded them had kept things arms-length and "detached", while the few "bad" Jedi like Buttcheeks and Anakin treating their men like real people might actually have been spared the ordeal if not for the chips), also explaining the difference between the clones that just shrugged and opened fire and the ones who start staring off into the distance doing the Good Solider Follow Order shtick.But yeah what they're actually going to do is shit themselves like an American President.
>>223555223>Is it possible to learn this power?Not from a redditor
>>223562765Yes Kotor is like 3000 years before the original movies
>>223563236Redditor spotted
Maybe they can do some extended universe stuff with hayden as the lead ? People love the empire, maybe being on their side and fight the yuuzanwong or something would be nice ? I'd watch that. Add a couple obiwan / palpatine cameos and you're cooking
>>223547833Kys
>>223553160Why Disney? How many options did Lucas have?>Paramountburned him on Indiana Jones >FoxHe's hated fox for years>Warner Bros.This was a possibility, as Lucas openly was impressed with The Matrix films and Lord of The Rings. It'd open up a Looney Tunes crossover. This could have happened had Disney said no>Universalsimilar to WB, it was likely his 3rd choice. End of the day, he pitched it to Disney and they wanted it.
>>223547984nearly every single design introduced in the sequel trilogy was a rehash of something from OT.Compare that to Prequels were you got all sorts of cool droid and clone stuff.
>>223547917It'll end up being a diverging canon at the end of Ahsoka season 2. You'll have the Filoni sequels and the the Kennedy sequels.
Turns out you need story writers who are willing to make something new.
>>223553060cool seeing TOR representedits really not as awful as people memed back in the day
>>223565768>nearly every single design introduced in the sequel trilogy was a rehash of something from OTOnly Abram's movies. TLJ was the only one to come up with some (really bad) originality.To be honest, Johnson should be awarded with a statuette of a Bronze Chud. He wrecked the whole setup Abrams has prepared in TFA, didn't rip off the Empire Strikes Back as he was expected to and eventually thwarted plans for the sequel trilogy as a corporate, ESG friendly rehash of the OT.Great job Rian, keep going.
>>223567610Rian saved Star Wars, from a certain point of view.
>>223549323It will probably tie in but introducing some stupid retcon like "Luke actually had affair with women lol Rey isn't the true Skywalker Luke son is", Rey gets sidelined in favor of Lukes son
>>223550928>They just announced with much fanfare that they're making three new Skywalker Saga movies set post-Sequelsthis is pure conjecture, absolutely nothing about the kinberg trilogy is confirmed apart from jon watts directing the first film and that it's set post-9yea furloni went on live and said possibly the dumbest thing "we have ot fans, pt fans, st fans, rebels/cw/mando fans, gotta give them all a slice of the cake" which tells me he doesn't know what to do and is just throwing darts at a board to see what hits, but it still doesn't confirm this new trilogy being 10-12
>>223567610>TLJ was the only one to come up with some (really bad) originality.combining empire and jedi with the plot structure of clones is now considered original? the only original part of it is maybe the hyperspace tracking which functionally ruins star wars on a logistical level lmao
>>223568412>reading comprehension Originality in design
>>223552234The honest truth is star wars is for dykes and flags
>>223547783>ohh look my goytoy company no longer recognizes 3 goymovies I didn’t like>this is le hecking awsomekill yourself at your earliest convenience
>>223547783They already milked those movies to death, I want more legends shit, Darth sion not being included in this was outrageous and unfair
>>223568446but you're the one claiming he didn't rip off empire when he very much did so>opening battle of the guerilla fighters trying to run away from the militant authority>jedi hopeful leaves to find ancient jedi master for training and further understanding of the world at large>dark force user has a personal connection to the jedi hopeful and is internally conflicted over knowing the truth about their relationship>rogue goes off to a more whimsy location and meets an unsavory character that is either their salvation or damnation (ends up being both)>jedi hopeful literally goes into a cave of dark energy and faces a personal test they don't fully understand ayy lmaothe only major differences are rey and kylo don't fight, rey doesn't lose a limb, snoke dies earlier than expected, and everything ends up being a waste of time. very original indeed, so subversive.
>>223547985A day that will live long in /v/ infamy
>>223563206you mean the instant i saw the pic years ago? i wasn't laughing though.
>>223547783 >>223551878 >>223557605 >>223568582GEORGE... I KNEEL...
>>223547917I feel like even ten years ago this would've been unthinkable and confusing to audiences but now it's more normalized and at this point pretty much a necessity to save the film arm of the IP
>>223547917what else can they do? the IP was meant to be a crown jewel, but the trilogy is critical maligned and even the diehard moronic fanbase is dialing out of Disneys SW mania. best thing to come out of this shit show has been a pretty mid spy series with excellent acting.
>>223568688it was the consensus back when the rise of skywalker dropped>>223568717the diehard fanbase left after the farce engorges, it's the disney adults who have now left. i can't even tell you who's still watching the shit.
>>223551878>EXPAND THE CORE BY 3thats what they did; it suckedonly Carrie Fisher knows peace
>>223548764Star Wars isn't dead. I was watching the $10 budget version on Youtube today. It's great.
>>223568835the cardboard thing?
>>223548764kotor is too long to do it in a trilogy, you'd need a trilogy just to cover the events of the first game. a series is better for it.
All sequel content will be deemed non canon.Besides Rey's Feral Deal, of course.
>>22355306050% actual glup shittos lmao
>>223568844Yes that's the one
>>223552161>as a sequel kid
>>223567530it was only memed because hardcore nerds speed ran the bulk of the content within a month of launch
>>223553160why wouldnt he. $5b to rid himself of a creative albatross.not that he has done anything with that freedom.
>>223569190he spent at least half of it on the museum
>>223569227see, i had no idea he had blown 2 billion on a ridiculous looking museum. i guess if you are gonna build tho, and you have billions, build weird...
>>223568553>the only major differences areAnon what you mentioned makes a gigantic difference in the storytelling. The execution of Snoke destroys the framework, it's no longer the template from the Empire Strikes Back.Besides. We got there at least 5 new ideas completely destroying all established lore, not just space logistics, 3 alien animals meant for merchandise, 1 planet with actual world building, 3 types of military hardware and 1 brand new type of dynamics between the characters (reylo).It's a lot. TFA and TROS summed together don't have that much of new content.
>>223569447>The execution of Snoke destroys the framework, it's no longer the template from the Empire Strikes Backyeah that's when it jumps to the clones/jedi framework instead, which was the first thing i pointed out.>3 alien animals meant for merchandisethe space horse things, the porgs, and what else? not the milk monster>1 planet with actual world buildingnone of the planets had world building lmao. instead you had salty hoth which was irrelevant, casino land which was irrelevant, and the supposed first jedi temple that housed old books containing ancient jedi knowledge (which became irrelevant)>3 types of military hardwarewidescreen star destroyer, pizza slice star destroyer and monkey walkers are not new>1 brand new type of dynamicit's literally every noir romance ever but okayyeah i guess carrie poppins is probably the most original idea that breaks lore besides the hyperspace ram, none of it changes the fact that the film is fucking terrible and created real everlasting damage to what was once the most successful IP in history.
>>223547833Liar!
>>223547783based
When I was a kid, I had this action figure, and I took a pair of scissors and cut the skirt off so that she was just wearing a shirt and underwear lmao.
>>223570094based, my autistic ass would've just stared at the underwear from underneath the skirt.
>>223547917Can anyone dispute that The Last Jedi didn't tank the IP anymore?
>>223569567>yeah that's when it jumps to the clones/jedi framework instead, which was the first thing i pointed out.And that was the point in >>223567610, it's no longer a 1:1 rehash of the OT Episode V and it has a strong impact on the would- be (as for 2017) Episode IX as well. >the space horse things, the porgs, and what else? not the milk monsterCrystal foxes from the not- Hoth.And show some respect to the boob monsters, those things were hilarious. >none of the planets had world building lmaoThe casino planet where all the (((businessmen))) have fun was a massive addition to the setting. It establishes some facts:>there is a space MIC>there are people behind it and they all have bank accounts, addresses and trophy wives>there's a thriving economy behind the war, it would be beneficial for everybody if it goes on as long as possibleAlso it has some "space Monaco" aesthetics looking like a reference to Phantom Menace, you should appreciate that. It means this architectural style remains as an indication of luxury, while modernism never got popular in the galaxy far away.>widescreen star destroyer, pizza slice star destroyer and monkey walkers are not newMeanwhile, TFA and ROTS... >hey look, this X- wing / TIE fighter has wings in slightly different shape>it's literally every noir romance ever but okayGuess so. But it was also the first time it appeared in the main SW movies.>carrie poppinsOh shit, I forgot about it. That makes at least 7 new ideas completely destroying all established lore.
>>223570242>Crystal foxes from the not- Hoth.they made toys of that? afaik that was just furloni putting his wolf fetish into the movie
>>223547783I'll see star wars in theaters for the 50th anniversary since its a nice new scan, but I'm really otherwise done with this franchise
>>223570395gonna be funny when the rerelease out-grosses the new slop nobody cares aboutwe won't get a trailer until avengers for starfighter, why does disney keep thinking they can build momentum within 6 months of a launch?
>>223547917It's too late. I grew up with Star Wars and loved all six of the first films. Even if the prequels didn't captivate me the same way the originals did they never diminished my love for the franchise at all. The sequels did. I'm done and want nothing to do with it and I'm not coming back, even with a retcon. While that might just be a natural progression for a grown man to not be as attached to a space adventure series as he was as a child, I feel like I'd still hold a lot more fondness in my heart, as well as encourage my kids and nephew to engage with it, had it not become such a pile of shit under Disney's woeful mismanagement.
>>223547783Star Trek, a primarily show based franchise, has a greater number of good movies than Star Wars, a primarily movie based franchise.
>>223570395>I'll give disney more money, but this will be the last time!do better
there are only two good star wars movies
>>223570572What about the throne room scenes in ROTJ?
>>223547783Who cares, Star Wars is dead just be grateful we got Andor.
>>223549128>GroguHere's a tip for blending in better, my dear reptilian (((journalist))): don't use that name.
>>223570619bro no one is ever going to watch that
>>223570360No idea but I could bet the crystal fuckers were there only for toy manufacturers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjm55Pl7Q8Q
>>223570446>I feel like I'd still hold a lot more fondness in my heart, as well as encourage my kids and nephew to engage with it, had it not become such a pile of shit under Disney's woeful mismanagement.you can still show them the lucas kino>>223570619>just be grateful we got blandorno thanks, overrated spy slop that's barely sw
>>223570585those are great scenes in an overall mediocre movie
>>223570640what the fuck i had no idea there was a physical prop assembledi know rian's film was the only one in the trilogy to do that but sheeeit
It still amazes me that Disney built an entire theme park in Orlando based on the nu-wars movies. They really, really thought that they hit something iconic after TFA and invested so much into Rey and these other forgettable, pointless characters that no one gives a fuck about. Fucking JarJar is more iconic than any single nu-wars character, I'm completely serious.
>>223547833Trvke
>>223547917Seeing as those three movies killed the franchise they absolutely will.
I hate tge FAGMAN & Co. These big failures are the reason disney started adverts in paid tier
>>223570659Jabba's palace?
>>223550565The sequels were so bad most people are actively going back to read a lot of the retconned EU stuff and finding out literal who authors had better ideas than Disney
>>223570708pointless, its only there to sell toys
>>223570677yeah because jar jar had plot relevance unlike most of the disney cast>>223570708anon is trolling, ignore him. he's one of those ot manbabies that gets upset when he thinks about ewoks. jabba's palace is certified kino.>>223570722they're also discovering how many ideas disney keeps reusing
>>223548838>laura dernAm I the only one who thought she was strangely hot in TLJ?
>>223570666Mr Satan, I believe watching "the making of TLJ" would be way more entertaining and less offensive than watching TLJ itself
>>223558008Revan was too much of a gigachad to ever be portrayed correctly in film.Also Tortanic tranny fanfic is not canon to the actual KOTOR storyline.
>>223547783hasbro, hasis, hasfren
>>223570677Jar Jar would be perfect as a target in a Star Wars themed shooting range
>>223547783The sequels were made to "correct" the prequels which is why TFA begins with Max Von Sydow saying, "This will begin to make things right."My point is, do you really trust Disney "correcting" their own trilogy by retconning it?
>>223547783Hasbro lost a fortune on the sequel shit, so it's not surprising that they don't want to go back to that.
Is Star Wars fixable or is it actually over?Can the old EU be brought back?
>>223571227Considering the quality of the screenwriting in the film industry these days I would say it is over.
>>223547783Based HasBRO giving us an admission of defeat.
>>223570804probably>>223570822revan fighting in the mandalorian wars has been canon since the beginning, fuck are you on about?>>223570899jar jar silhouettes already exist>>223571227it's fixable, no we won't get the old eu back. the best solution is to cherrypick the best of both canons that don't contradict the films (1-6) and go forward from there. any writers that want to do new luke or anakin stories need to make sure it doesn't mess with the timeline or contradict any character bits.
>>223549128Mando isn't even sequel era, it still has classic stormtroopers
>>223547833You're right that ANH, TESB and ROTJ are still 3 too many, my transgender redditor friend.
>>223570677
We still haven't recovered from The Last Jedi???
>>223571473kekdutch is a funny language
>>223568860>need a trilogy just to cover the events of the first game.Only if you're a fucking autist who insists on including every side quest and town NPC in the script. Divested of the filler, the main narrative would fit comfortably in a single film.
>>223547833Revenge of the Sith, Rogue One and A New Hope is the only good SW trilogy.
>>223570677>Disney built an entire theme park in Orlando based on the nu-wars movies.Even funnier is that it's not based on any location from TFA/the sequels, because JJ is addicted to blowing up planets
>>223570446Difference is the prequels only ruined Vader. Maybe Obi-Wan if you're being really picky (Ewan McGregor saved him from being complete shit)The sequels ruined Luke Han Leia and Vader's sacrifice and even Palpatine
>>223547917They’ll remake them after enough time has passed and act like the sequel series never existed
RLM and this video killed the sequels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5bi-k2bd38
>>223572145Funny, because he wanted to blow up Coruscant but Disney vetoed that decision because it is too important lolInstead they blew up some random planet that was never mentioned before, and expected us in the audience to give a shit that billions of people just died.In fact, that planet and the literal worst genocide of all time that occurred when they blew it and the other planets around it up is never even mentioned again once in any of the other movies. I mean Alderaan was a planet with just a few million people and it was considered horrific what the empire did, yet the new baddies kill billions and no one seems to care. Star Wars is so infantile. They don't even try to deal with the consequences of the evil shit that happens.
>>223572177RLM's treatment of TFA after it came out told me everything I needed to know about them.Their prequel "reviews" helped lead to the abominations that are the sequels.
>>223572177>it's freakin' STAR WARS and Han always shoots first!Somehow I hadn't seen this video. I was that was still the case. I feel like I've just had pure soi injected into my veins.
>>223572200I really hate that the giant space laser lights up the planet before it hits... THAT'S NOT HOW LIGHT WORKS!
>>223572329Oh boy don't get me started, I could go on a massive rant about how stupid that scene is and how dumb JJ is. Light moving faster than lightlight moving tens of thousands of light years from one place to anotherlight that is moving faster than light being visible in the sky from a third planet tens of thousands of light years away from both the source of the light and the planet being hit by the light IN DAYLIGHT somehow and even seeing the destroyed planets and they all know what planets they are somehow and what happened for some reason somehow. the funniest part is how the light is literally shown moving slower than light from the star destroyer, then somehow it just teleports tens of thousands of light years and then SLOWS DOWN AGAIN while splitting in multiple beams somehow, and somehow these planets are all literally parked right next to each other for some reason or something...None of it makes any sense, it's truly one of the worst scenes in the history of film because of how nonsensical and thoughtless it is. Not one person scripting this scene had a single moment of reflection or critical thinking.
>>223572434>>223572329Erm, Star Wars never had realistic science, chud!
That's still 5 too many
>>223572177Gen X was a mistake
>>223570677Ahsoka and the rebels crew are more iconic than fucking rey, genddy wars prologue is also superior to rey.Even motherfucking starkiller is more known than nuwars charscters
