Why did she suddenly become a genocidal maniac?
i felt sorry for her after dumb jon snow told sansa the truth
>>223550412Her nephew didn't want to have sex with her.
there were clues she was already that., though
>>223550412Her people were chosen, they were supposed to heal the world but they were not getting the respect and reverence they deserved from the westerim.
>>223550598Oy vey moment?
>>223550589Nice try Dave.
>>223550412Because fuck you, that's why.
>>223550412>>223550598Targayrian are supposed to be the jews, isnt it?
>suddenlypeople really are this retarded, aren't they?
>suddenlyhasn't she slaughtered everywhere she went?
>>223550725>foreigners who lost their homelands>rule over locals with a disregard for their customs and traditions and perceive themselves as superiors and saviors>genocide anyone who won't bend the kneehmmmm
>>223550589>there were clues she was already thatlol
whyd they cut this faegon fella he seemed cool
>>223550412Because D&D are hacks they failed to put in the show one of the many moments the books have where it shows that she has targ madness and it's just hiding beneath the surface.
>>223550412Because D&D didn't see the clues in the books that she was bonkers and made her the good guy in all of the show until she wasn't.
>>223550856Of course they didn't, see >>223550725
>>223550412I sometimes wonder if on set they had giant signs behind the cameras telling her don't move her eyebrows. it's bizarre to me this is the only role where she seems like she actually understands the concept of acting and then in every other role she looks like she's auditioning to be a live action roger rabbit
>>223550412>suddenly
>Suddenly
>>223550412must be something in script she read
Gorge hard r Martin is a hack
>>223550856>Because D&D didn't see the clues in the books that she was bonkersThat's not true at all. In the post episode interviews they state that Danny was unusually calm when her brother was horrifically killed, regardless of what a shitbag he was. They put that shit in season 1. They knew where he arc was going from the beginning even before George told them his ending.
Fuck Emilia Clarke
>>223550780Sounds russian
>>223550780OY VEYES
>>223550412postpartum depression
>>223550412Because D&D landed a Star Wars gig at Disney between season 6 and 7 so they skipped 2 seasons worth of character and plot development. That deal fell through so GOT died for nothing.
>>223552047It was probably calculated by Disney. They never wanted to hire D&D, they just wanted to sabotage a competitor's cash cow. Disney is seriously like that, the only creativity they have anymore is reserved for poisoning other people's well.
>>223550412It blows my mind how many normies watched this slop and didn't see this coming a mile away. Again and again and again this was foreshadowed with acts of increasing cruelty and depravity, and yet people didn't get itI think perhaps the show was too eager to lean into audiences' YAS QUEEN interpretation of the character, as the audience was then unable to square the fact that what she was doing wasn't feminist but was monstrous. The audience should have slowly come to this realization themselves but instead were slapped in the face by the reality of who she was at the end. That's kino in a kind of meta way, people not seeing the ruler they idolize as a monster before it's too late, but the audience doesn't have the self reflection for that either.Just a couple more episodes likely would've left enough time for hand holding and hitting people across the head with it, but D&D had to go make that star wars money
>>223550412She was burning people to death with her dragons as early as season 2.>But they deserved it!Season 8 is the end result of being free to murder anyone you feel "deserved it"
>>223552047>an extra 2 seasons of d&d 'character development'I can't even begin to imagine how retarded that would get
>>223552352Seasons 5 and 6 were dumb but at least it was still entertaining to watch. Only 7 and 8 was when the show really went to shit.
>>223550412the early seasons were written for men. the middle seasons were written for men and their girlfriends. the latter seasons were written for women and reddit trannies.
>>223552334Not really. There was always the greater good guiding her actions and there seemed to be little room for her to act less cruelly.
>>223550551Why didn't Jon Snow just go to Winterfell and become Sansa's husband? She is all alone as queen and needs a man she can trust. She has her own kingdom and it's not like she's bound by their laws. She can pardon Jon and not send him to a non-existant wall
>>223552800i think he was just tired of serving or being responsible, you have to remember, he died and came back, killed his lover, etc, mistake after mistake
Back when the episode came out, I read a good comment on the AV Club. The poster suggested that when Dany landed her dragon on the rooftops and announced herself to the people, a peasant could have thrown a stone or fired an arrow at her, and THAT would be the thing to tip her over the edge. I thought it was a good suggestion, and would have made the scene much more natural.
Daenerys is the Charlie Kirk of women
>>223552685Cope, season 8 was for the chuds, only women and trannies like dany and Targaryen prophecy shit
>>223552706Faggot
>>223551432Instructions unclear. Proceeding to getting pegged by Hunter
>>223550412She has spent too much time among brown people and decided to purge them with flame
>>223550748Those who deserved it, yes.>>223550780>>rule over locals with a disregard for their customs and traditionsAh yes, the noble traditions like castrating little boys, eating puppies and watching people fight to death for entertainment. What would they do without them.
>>223550733>>223550820>>223550856>>223552334>>223552341There's a difference between killing people who defy you, executing traitors or just in general winning battles with dragons versus turning your weapon of mass destruction on frightened refugees for no reason and slaughtering everyone indiscriminately with zero provocation.
>>223550820>>223550856>>223551418D&D made her volatile and petulant as early as season 2. Book version is a saint by comparison. In season 5 she feeds a man to her dragons, something her book counterpart never did. Through whole of ADWD Daenerys keeps searching for compromise and peaceful solutions while show Dany is just her usual angry entitled self.
>>223554060Nah, the tv show was one constant "yes queen!!!!" moment after another. In the books those situations play out more like "wtf did she just do?"
>>223554152Which situations? Daenerys never feeds a master alive to the dragons and never intimidates Hizdar into marrying her. She never threatens to burn Quarth and actually feels bad for Viserys. Funny thing is she's also way more badass than show Dany as her escape from Meereen shows. In the book she runs into the middle of slaughter to stop Drogon from killing anymore of pit fighters and whips him into submission, in the show she flees like a little bitch leaving her allies behind to get killed by Harpies.
Because she’s a dumb raped whore who got what she deserved
>First she came for the Child-killing Slavers, and i did not speak up because i wasn't a slaver>Then she came for the Rapist Warlord Khals, but I did not speak up because I wasn't a rapist warlord khal>Then she came for the Enemy's Troops and Fleet, but I did not speak up because I wasn't one of the enemy's troops and fleet>Then she came for innocent women and children and WHOA SON YOU SHOULD'VE SEEN IT COMING A LONG TIME AGO DON'T YOU FEEL STUPID NOWWhat did Dan&Dan mean by that?
>>223553901Westeros didn’t practice any of that what are you talking about
>>223553996Targaryens are genetically predisposed to madness >woahhh the mad queens daughter, from the family where half of them go insane…went mad????!!! AAAAAAAAAA IM GOING INSANE!!!!!
>>223554060the show kept framing those moments as heroic though
>>223550412>Why did she suddenly become a genocidal maniac?Tyrion says it pretty plainly. wherever she goes evil men die. and we all know killing evil people is bad.
>>223554319They meant you should have seen it a long time ago and should feel stupid for rooting for that cunt
>>223554372Yeah and the framing worked on you because you are weak minded and susceptible to propaganda, retard
>suddenly
>>223554326It practiced other fun things like arranged marriages, penal colonies, slaughtering everyone because your lord has a beef with that other lord etc. Regardless, she didn't get around to ever engaging with those traditions.>>223554364Bullshit. Every Targaryen who went insane - and there were not a lot of them - had some catalyst and a good reason for that.
>>223550780>genocide anyone who won't bend the kneeGives Meereen back to the people of MeereenAgrees to give Yara the Iron IslandsJon Snow shows up and tells her to fuck off and starts talking nonsense about zombies and shes like, 'yeah sure mine the dragonglass and let's have sex' Executes the Tarlys after they attack her, betray their liege lords, lose, refuse to bend the knee, refuse to take the black. God damn tyrant!
>>223550412>The last battle is in ptich blackBRAVO DAVIDS
>>223554380You're just as dumb as Jew&Jew. I bet you never even raised an eyebrow when Arya gouged out the guys eyes, fed a man his own sons, poisoned an entire noble house, threatened to cut off her sister's face and wear it. Or when Sansa fed Ramsay to the hounds. Or when Jon Snow hanged a traumatized teen who got coerced into betraying him. But we should've seen it coming my ass.
>>223550412She kinda forgot she shouldn't be
>>223554421RAPED
>>223554498I hate all those characters and if they died I would also rub it their fans faces
>>223550412The bells
>caring about a show clearly made for women
>>223550412Bran made her do it as a stepping stone for his ascendance
>>223550412Truth be told... not everyone could be a Tolkien
>>223555165>I saw it all, Sansa....the rape...Sansa....I saw it...the rape, Sansa...I saw it all.....Sansa, I saw the rape....Sansa.....>it was beautiful
>>223550412Jon was a dicklet and never made her cumits in the books
>>223555144>show for women >they brutally humiliation ritual the beloved feminist icon khaleesi Chud show
>>223555323>night king killed by le epic stealth assassin and greatest warrior in the 7 kingdoms arya>sansa queen of the north>robb stark throws his family into the meat grinder for some peasant ass he talked to 3 times>7.99 seasons of YAAAS QUEEN SLAY!!!! for danny>female rulers all over the place>prequel series explicitly made for womenThe show started out as appealing to men, but when it gained traction they realized appealing to the female audience is what really matters.
>>223550412the gods flipped a coin
>>223550412>hfw not even a crumb of nephew cock
>>223553228>Counting or not counting Blackfryre rebellions?
>>223550412because no nephew cockwhich was karmic retribution for her refusing to take a little unc cock for the teamshe could have had one of her servants tug him off while he watched her bathing but nooooo
>>223555538>almost all of the men following danny are following her because she's hot
>>223552509I blame the battle of the bastardsto this day people praise it as one of the best episodes in tv series everit just proved d and d that they could do the most dumbest shit, and as long as it visually looked good, they could get away with it
>>223550412You think Dany did anal?
Yeah Dany was always set up as a short sighted and cruel tyrant. But the last two seasons are still trash and should've been like twice the length or at least far better written.
>>223555189>his eyes reflect what he is seeing>it's milky white and gooey
>>223550820It's literally the opposite. While book Daenerys does cause a hell of a lot of damage, it's always portrayed as her being well-intentioned but completely in over her head, partly because she's a literal child but mostly because GRRM had nothing but a vague idea of where her arc was going and no idea at all how to get there.D&D on the other hand actually tried to drop some real hints of her being a ruthless psychopath amidst all the YASS KWEENing, but that fell equally flat because they're completely awful storytellers of a different sort.
>>223555642Daario had her in every way a man can have a woman according to the book.
>>223550412Something to do with Targaryen inbreeding, losing her best friend to Cersei, and being hated by everyone in Westeros despite being told since little that they are awaiting her return.
>>223550412>SuddenlyBitch was burning people alive since season 3.
>>223555609>as long as it visually looked goodI'm sorry, I thought you were talking about Battle of the Bastards
>>223551509What happened to this dude? I have not watched this series.
>SIRIUS FUCKING BLACK DID YOU JUST PUT YOUR FUCKING COCK INTO RHAENYRA'S CHAMBER OF SECRETS>Viserys said calmly
>>223556116She wasn't hated by everyone in Westeros, and she'd already come round to the fact that her father was a maniac and that her brother had lied to her about the Targaryens being welcomed back with open arms. Yes, you could understandably write her flipping out over the deaths of her friend and two of her dragons , but the actual execution of it was still unforgivably shit. Bells suddenly meaning surrender and also meaning that she should now just swoop around burning civilians alive instead of gunning straight for Cersei did not and could not have ever made any sense.
>>223550412all humans are, nobody becomes something they just get the power to do it
>>223550412Because D&D wanted to move on to Star Wars
>>223555570but varys is gay
>>223554372>the show kept framing those moments as heroic thoughYes, that’s exactly what you are supposed to feel, but if you are thinking about it for more than a second you were supposed to start connecting the dots. Also, Dany says a number of times that she will take back what is hers “by fire and blood”. Then she does just that and people are surprised.
>>223550412She was always insane and bent on revenge, was that not obvious to anyone but me? Who takes baths in boiling water and treats murderous dragons like little children? Retards, all of you
>>223556168people loved the shots of jon charging into some horses, or that little kid getting killed at the start, the bodies etcit just made no sense
>>223556433Again, you're being either deliberately obtuse or just plain retarded. The Targaryens have always "taken what is theirs with fire and blood". But they were still willing to accept surrenders when it was the reasonable choice in the course of their conquest. What Daenerys did to King's Landing was completely insane even by the maddest Targ standards, and the only excuse anyone can offer is that "well her father was a maniac so she obviously is too!", and that's just a pathetic excuse for shit writing, when it would only take a few more IQ points and a little less cocaine in the writing room to have arrived at a similar conclusion with a lot more sense.
>>223556218it's the fossoway kid right?he forms his own house, the green apple fossoway branch, marries a whore and supposedly raises a summer islander's kid.he's one of the winners while his brother who betrays them is disgraced
>mutt's law
>>223556242he's should've been snape so he could hatermaxxx
>>223553244>Show ends with progressive 50/50 m/f council >spoiled princess sansa undeservedly becomes Queen of the North in an "epic" girl boss moment.>Jon Snow gets robbed of his moment by his totally badass magic ninja little sister and fucks off to a frozen desert with a bunch of uncivilized bums>season 8 was for chudsJust like all media is "made for chuds", a "fuck you" to chuds.
>>223556777And now Jon Snow fucks Val daily while Sansa had to marry the fattest Umber or something for realm's stability.
>>223550412It was implied from early on that she was a power tripping psycho like the rest of her family.Imagine getting kicked out of the continent by a popular rebellion and thinking you're righteous by invading them with an army of foreign savages.
>>223550412Fatty's gardening eventually leads to Lenin Daeny, over the course of who knows how many books that he will never write. Cramming in the required A to Z needed to reach that end, with fatboy not yet knowing how it gets there because he didn't write it yet, was impossible for the jew hacks. Not to mention they had to cram in their fanfiction in the span of a season. It was 100% going to fail and look like total shit, which it did. Also, they were in a hurry to go do Star Wars, so what little they did was half-assed
>>223552706>There was always the greater good guiding her actions and there seemed to be little room for her to act less cruelly.How was crucifying 151 slave owners for the greater good or the least cruel option available?
>>223552334Yep. The show is absolutely guilty of framing Dany and Tyrion in a flattering light where even the cruel actions are just badass girlboss things. The books make it much clearer that these characters have a dark side that's only growing with time, and it's easy to imagine the book-only rival targaryan plot developing in a way that makes Dany especially vicious. I'm guessing the intended plot line was that Young Griff takes Kings Landing before Dany can, or that the city begins to change loyalties to him under her rule, before she burns it all down
>>223557547And what exactly did the show do to engender any sympathy for the slave owners? Was there ever a depiction of Essosi slave owners treating their slaves remotely humanely? I can't remember them if there were, but I did quit the show well before it ended and never went back to resume or rewatch any of it.
Daenerys was always from the start though in the book's I think it'd be better handled like if she finds out she is really the pretender all along and Aegon is actually the real deal true and honest Targaryen. That'd give her more of an excuse to burn down everything.
>>223557928Faegon is Blackfyre. Daenerys will go mad after it comes out and people still prefer him to her and her army of castrated child soldiers.
>>223557874>Was there ever a depiction of Essosi slave owners treating their slaves remotely humanely?Hizdahr comes forward and says she crucified slave owners indiscriminately, and that his own father who she had crucified constantly advocated for abolition and/or increased rights for slaves.> I can't remember them if there wereOne shouldn't be necessary, as any adult realizes that real life isn't black and white and arbitrarily torturing a bunch of people to death to send a message to the survivors was neither the least cruel option or even the most sensible or pragmatic option. The pragmatic abolitionist thing would have been to execute that entire class and be done with it rather than suffer through failed coexistence.
>>223557974>Hizdahr comes forward and says she crucified slave owners indiscriminately, and that his own father who she had crucified constantly advocated for abolition and/or increased rights for slaves.Fair enough then. I'll concede that argument here>One shouldn't be necessarylol. Cultures vary greatly, especially in absence of accessible, wider communication networks to spread atypical ideologies. And this is fiction to boot. It's perfectly reasonable to expect that a writer would write an entire culture of barbarity and inhumanity because it has already happened innumerable times. As for history, I'd be surprised if there were no cultures ever like that in reality as well.>as any adult realizes that real life isn't black and white and arbitrarily torturing a bunch of people to death to send a message to the survivors was neither the least cruel option or even the most sensible or pragmatic optionFaggot speak. Some people do not comprehend civility, humanity, or empathy and will only respond the way you want to violence and threats of it. If she were faced with a culture of inhumane slave-owners that failed to even see their property as fellow human beings, then they'd absolutely deserve something like crucifixions to establish the new order. >The pragmatic abolitionist thing would have been to execute that entire class and be done with it rather than suffer through failed coexistence.And then what system takes its place? There's nothing pragmatic about executing the entire ruling class if you aren't prepared to dig in and establish a new one, which was not what I remember Daenery's objective being. You'd simply leave unmitigated chaos behind you.
>>223557928>A street urchin whorespawn born from the pleasure houses of Lys is the sole successor of the Dragonlords of Old Valyria>The "blackfyre usurper" is not really an usurper but ends up getting usurped by some orphan girl who the comet has gifted dragonswould've been kino if the fatass had finished the books
>>223558213>Blackfyre usurperNo such thing. You can't usurp throne that belongs to you.He bore the sword.
>>223558234Them being a cadet house in the first place doesn't even make sense since they were legitimized from the beginning
>>223557099>>223557928These. While Dany actually did want to make the world better for the common folk, ruling was always her first priority. At first she believed it was her birthright and later because she felt she earned it. As opposed to Jon Snow, who never had any interest ruling, despite being thrust into leadership roles almost everywhere he went.
>>223550412> why are women like this? oldest story there is
>>223556616*cousin
>>223558245They were legitimized illegitimately, though.It was the retard with a million bastards that set the Blackfyre blaze, right?
pidzer :DDD
>>223559291They were illegitimately legitimized by illegitimate king.
>>223559291>It was the retard with a million bastards that set the Blackfyre blaze, right?Yes, all cause he was seething hard at his son stopping his retarded plans to invade dorne.
>>223559367>his>son
>>223559390That only makes him even more pathetic, imagine getting cucked by the closest thing to a septa.
>>223550412>>223552334She could've killed all of them or done nothing, it's insane anyone actually caresGot was already way past being an irredeemable and completely obnoxious pile of shit by this point
>>223559291That retard was the king. The sole individual capable of legitimizing people in this setting.
>>223550412Back in the day it was a funny meme of>what no dick does to a bitchLol!But a detail i noticed that nobody but me ever seemed to notice was that during her burning of Kings Landing, some little mosue farts of cached wild fire blew and it looked tiny in comparison to her rampage.This harkens back to the mad king and how everyone was afraid he would burn down king landing...meanwhile his abilities to donsuch a thing were nothing compared to Dany.
>>223556397Varys is a pedophile merman; it is known
The intent was that she had the same genetic defect as her ancestry where they just burned things down because they're dragons.
>>223550412Because the creators hate white women and can't have people liking one
>jon: “communism is gay” *stabs khaleesi* >drogon: “damn he’s got a point, Jon snow is kinda based”
>>223559646>secretly red-pilled afBased
>>223550412suddenly? did you miss the previous 7 seasons?
Wait…you didn’t actually root for her right? You didn’t really think she was the good guy this whole time?? oh god you did HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>223550412She got aware of her Indian genes lmaoooo lololol
When is fat-ass going to finish the next book? All I want is the Bolton sections. I want to know what happens to Roose and Ramsay in the castle. Theon noticed Roose is actually fucking scared at the dinner table. Shit is really getting bad in there that even Roose is starting to quake. He's not even aware he was eating those cursed pies before either
>>223550412her inbred genes caused itisn't it obvious? targaryens are fucked in the head
>>223563840Anon...he is never finishing them. He has made that evident.
>>223550412Because it was foreshadowed and the hack writers crammed all the story conclusions in one single half-season so they could work on Star Wars instead.
>>223550412She was on the rag.
>Ramsay is an ugly young man, even when dressed finely. He is big boned and slope shouldered, with a fleshiness indicating he will be fat later in life. Ramsay's skin is pink and blotchy, his nose broad, his hair long and dark and dry. Though his mouth is small, Ramsay's lips are wide and meaty, wormy looking, and he smiles a wet-lipped smile. His distinctive eyes resemble Roose's - small, close-set, and oddly pale, like two chips of dirty ice. Ramsay sometimes wears a garnet cut in the shape of a drop of blood in his right earRamsay's at his best when he looks like not-Chud, with really thick lips and ugly. That unappealing look is part of his charm. The show doesn't bother explain why he's so evil either, but the book gives you some small idea of why, when Roose was shitting on him about being regretful he raped Ramsay's mom because Ramsay is such a disappointment. Ramsay starts boiling and tells Theon he's going to abuse him later when he returns, much to Theon's dismay and confusion, since he's been behaving himself. We see that Theon is just an outlet for Ramsay's anger at his father neglecting him and his mother
there's nothing wrong with killing slavers
>>223564591The problem is if you kill them all and wildly disrupt the economy and current functioning system, but don't replace the current system with something else, you get collapse. Then people can't work, can't eat, etc. Daeny didn't really think of anything beyond "slaves bad" and didn't bother to look a few weeks down the road at what would happen. Now she's stuck ruling shitty places that she doesn't want to be in and they all keep falling apart because she can't patrol them all with the resources she has at the momentGERM wanted to tell a story about what happens when the liberator doesn't plan ahead, but it ended up being shit. People wanted to see Daeny go to the Shadowlands, not ruling dirty brownies enslaving each other. but GERM realized it was impossible to do now that she's trapped in Ghis, so he fucked himself and the reader by extension
>>223564895that's why I like that scene in the show where Tyrion agrees to a truce as long as they dismantle slavery over the course 10 years or whatever the amount was
>>223550412She was slaughtering people without remorse every season before this. The feminist faggots only agreed with her choices of victims before King's Landing.
>>223550412Shit writing, targ genes, jealousy of Jon, woman moment, he best friend was beheaded.
>>223565186killing slavers is not the same thing as killing innocents in King's Landing. Her entire story is about being a liberator. The show should have had her taking on the white walkers to free the wights that are enslaved under the Night King/old gods or whatever, and that being the thing that makes obsessed with the prophecy and convinces her she's the one that should take over the world
>>223551509Who are these faggots even. Some season 8 additions? Never watched it
>>223550412Luv DanyLuv Emilia
>>223565186No you're gay faggot. All Dany haters must die.
>>223550412Late onset Post Partum Depression
>>223550820D&D are hacks, but the main problem is that if you actually factor in how Aegon returning in the Books, mashes with the TV series ending (and the TV series ending is apparently in line with the books somewhat), it makes waaaaaay more sense if Aegon is involved.Aegon returns and the point of Aegon is that he is a PHENOMENAL KING, he restores everything to order, he is beloved, he is fair and just, he genuinely has the perspective of someone who rose from the bottom to the top and is humble.Dany returns, realizes she isn't even in line to the throne anymore, but she's so convinced by her vision that Aegon is Fake, and launches a war against a "pretender", everyone in Westeros is like "Wtf are you doing bitch? he's the best ruler we ever had" and she nukes them all out of spite.That is CLEARLY how the books are supposed to end. Dany is the bad guy.
He found out Jon is a manlet
>>223565308Targ genes? More like tard genes
>>223550412>Why did she suddenly become a genocidal maniac?When they made her carry her own groceries
>>223565441>Aegon comes to power>Beloved young king adored by all>Daeny comes in later>Covered in disgusting savages and eunuch soldiers and slimy mercenaries>Wants the crown herself so she takes it>Burns them all with her unstoppable dragons and barbarian army clean-up crew>Queen of ashes>Eventually assassinated as a tyrantCool, only going to need another three books to get it. Only way that's going to happen is if the fat man is held hostage in his own home and threatened to either finish the series, or get his legs smashed with a sledgehammer. He'll probably die of a heart attack while he's doing it, but maybe he'd at least get one book done, maybe two. Better than none, which we're getting right now
>>223550412Probably was on her period
>>223565521Heyo
>>223565528Emilia is a big girl, she told her mum she wanted to carry the groceries into the house this time.
It's not out of character at all, it's deserved. All King's landing normshitters deserve to die screaming. People who tolerate fascism out of temporal convenience are utterly unworthy of life
>>223565528What kind of maniac buys a chili con carne spice mix?
>>223565731The Westerosi stole the land from the natives only 8000 years ago too. They definitely deserved it.
>>223565746The Andals and Rhoynar did, but the Firstmen are still around in various parts of South and remain in power in the North.
>>223565354It's the jousting spin off set however many years before.
>>223565786The Firstmen also stole it form the Children of the Forest and the Giants.
they set it up a few times but who remembers that after 30 episodes of Mereen?
>>223565354That’s Raymun Fossoway and Dunk n Donuts, they’re from the show Big Lad of the Seven Kingdoms which takes place before the main series but after House of the Habsburgs.
>>223550412
>>223565806Fuck em, Firstmen were fucking giant and tree loli pussy and Durran was nailing a daughter of gods. And then there are the Starks who… actually let’s not talk about that, how many more months until winter?
>>223565808It was foreshadowed, but the problem was with how the Showrunners implemented it. Her character just completely changes in one go, in the last few episodes, instead of it being a slow turn to craziness. It did not feel in character for her to just snap in one moment and burn everything down. If they had done her corruption over the course of at least a full season, then it would have been fine probably.
>>223565827Milly
>>223565890Every season should have had Daeny's fat ass getting doggystyled, with her pudgy belly and tits flopping around
>>223550412>suddenlyShe was sopping wet when drogo claimed he was gonna rape every westerosi female and enslave the kids.
>>223550412Dumb and Dumber were lined up for the Disney Star Wars deal and wanted to end the series as quickly as possible, so they made sure they would nuke it with no survivors.
>eight seasons of intimating it>"suddenly"
>>223565441>t. Jon Connington >she nukes them all out of spiteclose but you're forgetting the bells, she'll start burning the red keep and avoid killing innocents until Aegon is dead/surrenders. When Jon hears the bells the ptsd from the stoney sept, failing the king, and probably greyscale at that point will come flooding back and he'll set off the wildfire caches. It won't be clear if he's successful or if Dany set them off on accident but she'll be blamed regardless, which will further alienate her from everyone else
>>223551509Why does this guy look exactly like Jay Bauman?
She lost 2 dragons trying to get her ancestral home backI'd have some hate left in me if I were her and they surrendered without a good cleansing burn
Everyone in KL deserved to die, it only became a problem when a woman was doing it
>>223550412the moment she killed her brother in season 1
>>223550412She was "literally hitler" the whole time and nobody saw it.
>>223566619But he was a nigger though
>>223550412>suddenlyShe was genociding people from book 2 onwards, you're a herd-mentality sheep or woman if you didn't see the pattern she set right from the beginning and fell for her lies that she was 'liberating people' by killing everyone and destroying their cities and way of life.
>>223563882Precisely this.What was the quote in the series?>Every time a Targaryen is born, the gods flip a coin
>>223550412She was a woman given a modicum of power. Have you ever worked for a female boss?
>>223550733Yeah. She has always been a murderous bitch who wanted to genocide anyone in her way, the rare good acts she did were solely because that was how she believed a rightful Queen should act, not because it was her nature to do good. When she met the extremely reasonable and respectful spice merchant in S2, she was already threatening to brutally murder him for not supplying her with an army of ships when she looked like a retarded gamble. She's always been a psycho bitch.
>>223550412>Targaryen genes lol
>>223565789>>223565815Ah, the fatso's rendition of mandalorian and baby yoda.
>>223556128That scene always felt wrong to me, like it was written by someone with 0 understanding of politics. Dany makes a deal with the slaver, then goes back on her word, burns him alive and steals the army for herself. She has proven that her word is utterly worthless, why would anyone ever interact with her instead of shooting her with an arrow as soon as she shows her face? Honor matters, it's why the Red Wedding was so inconceivable and why it's seen as such an evil act, and Dany has shown she is a honorless murderous maniac.
>>223566868most Targaryens weren't mad desu it's just a nice sounding quote for the ones that were
>>223566955it was a dirty move but TECHNICALLY she didn't go back on her word she just let the slaver believe that Drogon would become his as if he's adopting a puppy. She didn't steal the army because she literally did sell DrogonThe Red Wedding was inconceivable because guest rights were being broken not just that it's dishonorable. Guest right is a huge deal when you live in a world where your winters last for years
>>223567056I guess that makes sense, but I doubt Westeros respects pilpul, or that any leader would risk interacting with someone who pulls this shit.
Who cares post the pics
>>223550412Dumb question. Targaryens are known in the books as those treating a thin line between sanity and insanity. It was very lore consistent and I am sure Martin cannot finish his lame book just because it was his idea for the ending. It's obvious for anyone who was paying attention.
>>223556168FUCK off contrarian scum
>>223567352I meant "treading" baka
>>223555538Jorah was a stone cold killer, she could have lowered her queenly standards a bit and indulged his simping. The bathing scene bit would have been perfect.
>>223550412postpartum
>>223550412I think it felt sudden just because the 8th season had less episodes, though longer each episode, which made it perhaps technically closer in overall runtime to perhaps the previous season, limited each moment of story development to major shifts and events, in order to keep it within the flow of this longer episode chunks. The show actually sets up her character shift pretty well throughout the show and leading up to that key moment with the bells, but because the pacing is so wonky in that last season, the immediate catalyst events that are meant to tip her over the edge do not feel impactful enough to the audience to sell them on Danarys' finally fall into madness. Having her favorite servant girl executed in front of her is supposed to really be the moment, and its understandable in a personal sense, but it also feels like not completely egregious compared to the fact that everyone, including her, are constantly killing people for their own aims, so neither in a traumatic sense nor a "straw that broke the camel's back sense" does that feel like enough. So, without enough emotional drive in that last season, you can feel the whiplash so strongly in The Bells because we are still barely processing the direction of the characters as they are sacking the city, then seemingly out of nowhere she decides to go insane. It comes off forced, it comes of stupid (in a strategic sense), it feels autistic (Jon Snow now just comes off like a simp with wool over his eyes for no good reason), and it comes off as rushed and needing to wrap up her downfall in an episode or two.
>>223567218it's worth the risk for some Targaryen pussy
>>223550412Because she was a young woman with tremendous power at her disposal. (Dragons are like nukes in their world.) And she had just lost all her handlers and a dragon. It makes perfect sense she went mad as soon as she took things into her own hands. Also very based take by the writers showing women can't handle power.
>>223567352that quote is overblown most Targaryens were sane, it's not a sanity thing their reputation comes from having dragons that gave them absolute power
>>223550412SSRIs
>>223551491Let's look at the demographics of the bolsheviks...>80% jew
>>223566548What level of autism-related face blindness is this?
>>223565441>Aegon returns and the point of Aegon is that he is a PHENOMENAL KING, he restores everything to order, he is beloved, he is fair and just, he genuinely has the perspective of someone who rose from the bottom to the top and is humbleNone of these fucking things are true. He's yet another entitled twat who thinks the "right" family name makes him suitable for the throne. Read his interactions with Tyrion.
>>223552328Did D&D actually walk away with nothing? I would have never ever left HBO/GoT if I didn't have something in writing + fuck you money in penalties if they tried to rugpull
>>223565996This but with Sansa.
>>223568434DnD walked away from Disney to take a $200 million overall deal with Netflix. This idea that DnD got fired from star wars because Disney listened to internet opinions about season 8 and then their careers were RUINED is revenge fantasy cope from losers who NEED justice for Dany turning evil or Jaime going back to Cersei DnD were also legally entitled to royalties and executive producing credits for HotD and KotSK as the creators of Game of Thrones, but they chose to wash their hands of the series entirely.
>>223567550Funny that several feminist blogs arrived to precisely the same conclusion of what her arc on the show was about and were seething like no tomorrow.
The only thing wrong about that scene was her screaming in rage as she was burning down the city. That should've been a calculated decision to intimidate the city into submission and prevent further rebellions made by emotionally dead conqueror with nothing left to lose, not a crazed woman flying off her handle. She should not have been trying to justify herself to Jon either.
>>223550412>suddenlyshe's constantly sentencing people to death during her rise to power and using her dragons to incinerate armies
>>223568540This, people vilify her for doing the same thing Tywin did because she was all 'emotional' about it.
>>223550412She got a case of the sad :(((((
>>223550725correct
>>223554430She killed the rulers of Meereen and gave it to a sellsword to ruleShe didn't "give" Yara the Iron Islands, Yara took it herselfThen she burns white men alive for defending their homeland
>>223551509this scene made reddit go insane with anger
>>223553996>city defies you and has your best friend executed over their gate>decides to give up the instant said gate is brokenIt's no wonder she lost her shit with them
>>223555217i thought cubicles were a thing of the past
>>223556469>>223557928>>223558301>>223566882>>223568589How does her having ambitions and being harsh with her enemies translate into burning down an entire city for ZERO tactical gain? She had dragons, she used them, you don't give Robb Stark shit for mauling people with his fuckhuge magical wolf no?
>>223556397>anon does not know the meaning of the word "almost"
>>223569069>harsh with her enemies tShe threatened to brutally murder a merchant in S2, not because he was any sort of enemy, but because he said "your plan of invading Westeros lacks any rational basis, you have no army, no allies, no diplomatic skills and no experience, I will not give you an army of ships for free in exchange for a promise that you cannot in all likelihood keep". Sure they made her go full genocide for no reason at the end, but she was always an insane insufferable entitled murderous bitch, she always wanted to brutally maim and murder anyone who didn't instantly fall in love with her and bend the knee, she was raised with stories about how the people ought to love her at first sight, and anytime this doesn't happen, she wants to kill the people. Throughout the whole story, she doesn't develop skills, she gets OP allies and powers she never worked for, and she bitches about deserving the entire world. She truly is a caricature of a spoiled inbred brat whose entire vocabulary consists of "this is MINE!".
>>223559319lol
>>223566033He didn't watch seasons 1 and 2 where she burned people alive, practiced blood magic, threatened to burn cities, or season 3 where she violated guest right.
>>223566808cool it with the antivalyrianism
>>223567578name 5 sane targsyou can't
never thought id see /tv/ defend season 8 and say the worst scene that killed the show is justified TO OWN LE LEFTIST FEMINISTS
>>223569302>Maester Aemon>Aegon I>Egg>Jaehaerys I and II>Daeron I and II>Baelor Breakspearetc.
>>223569129>She threatened to brutally murder a merchant in S2, not because he was any sort of enemy, but because he said "your plan of invading Westeros lacks any rational basis, you have no army, no allies, no diplomatic skills and no experience, I will not give you an army of ships for free in exchange for a promise that you cannot in all likelihood keep".>Sure they made her go full genocide for no reason at the end, but she was always an insane insufferable entitled murderous bitch, she always wanted to brutally maim and murder anyone who didn't instantly fall in love with her and bend the knee, she was raised with stories about how the people ought to love her at first sight, and anytime this doesn't happen, she wants to kill the peopleI thought she outgrew all of that by season 3 when she started working on getting shit instead of demanding that it be given to her on a platter. And it's not like you can blame her for being heavy-handed with literal troglodytes who populate slaver's bay. And the entire reason she even stayed in that shithole was her compassion for the people she freed. Remember when she chained up her dragons after seeing the corpse of one child that Drogon burned?>Throughout the whole story, she doesn't develop skills, she gets OP allies and powers she never worked for, and she bitches about deserving the entire worldSounds like Stannis whom this board adores.>She truly is a caricature of a spoiled inbred brat whose entire vocabulary consists of "this is MINE!".It's sad that this is what people like you got out of her arc, all because of the two well-poisoning jews who retroactively fitted her entire story into that mold. All because they can't write for shit and their ideas of what constitutes an empowered ruler ended up being so easy to retcon into "see, she was always a tyrant!" >>223554319
>>223569514>>EggSummerhall...
>>223569514>aemonbabbles about being a kid, he's nuts>Aegon Ifucked his sisters, that's not sane>Eggcaused summerhall incident, what a loon>Jaehaerys Iso mentally ill he had to get 500 men to help him choose an heir>Jaehaerys IIso sick in the head he was written out of the show's canon>Daeron Ilost to Dorne>Daeron II mad enough to MARRY a Dornishwoman and DORNE his line>Baelordied to help a liar claiming to be a knight, utter mad manTry 5 more, your list failed
>>223569530he was just goofin around
>>223569545ok>Daemon>Daemon>Daemon>Daemon>Daemonbecause he spits hot fire
>>223552800He was punishing himself. He felt bad about killing her even if she 100% deserved it.
>>223569590>groomed his niece for sex>got his ass beat by cole and roxton>loses the only dragon battle he ever fightsdefinitely mad lol
>>223569522>Remember when she chained up her dragons after seeing the corpse of one child that Drogon burned?She ended up letting them go free despite not resolving the problem. You're not wrong about the actions, but about the motivations. Dany never did the right thing because she felt it was right, because she had an inner desire to do good, but solely because she thought that's what a rightful queen should do. Dany's life revolves entirely around getting the throne at any cost, and she believes larping as a proper queen to be a way to accomplish that. She never internalizes moral lessons or values, therefore anytime she gets angry, she immediately goes back to full genocide via fire.>Sounds like Stannis whom this board adores.Stannis is at least an extremely competent war leader who gets a ton of respect for this. Dany genuinely has nothing that wasn't given to her effortlessly.>It's sad that this is what people like you got out of her arcIt's her entire character from beginning to end, you only feel bad for her at the start because her brother is an asshole, but she was never morally better than him, just in a weaker position.
>>223563840Nothing happens to Roose or Ramsay. Stannis is presumably dead since it will never be proven otherwise. Dany's arc ends with her shitting brown water, drinking brown water and shitting even more brown water. That is how the Song of Ice and Fire concludes, and you need to accept it.
>>223569725Sends assassins after his nephew's family because his whore niece's bastard son got his from madlad Aemond. No one even ASKED him to do this.
>>223569762>She ended up letting them go free despite not resolving the problemActually that was Tyrion. They've joined her in slaughtering ghiskari fleet of their own accord. And those faithless cucks deserved it before you start crying crocodile tears again.>You're not wrong about the actions, but about the motivations. Dany never did the right thing because she felt it was right, because she had an inner desire to do good, but solely because she thought that's what a rightful queen should do. Dany's life revolves entirely around getting the throne at any cost, and she believes larping as a proper queen to be a way to accomplish that. She never internalizes moral lessons or values, therefore anytime she gets angry, she immediately goes back to full genocide via fire.And you know all this how? You can read fictional character's minds? Were you the writer on the show?>Stannis is at least an extremely competent war leader who gets a ton of respect for thisCompletely irrelevant to the majority of his arc where he has to rely on spooky witch and her demon shadow powers to even get past his little brother and then after getting buckbroken by Tywin and the Tyrells can't get enough support to scrape together even third of the people he had.>Dany genuinely has nothing that wasn't given to her effortlesslyImplying that's a bad thing. Or prerequisite for madness. And at least she had to devise a clever plan that could've easily failed and led to her death when she won the unsullied.>It's her entire character from beginning to endWhen you ignore all the other stuff, sure.>but she was never morally better than him, just in a weaker position.You think Viserys would spend even a day bumbling about in slaver's bay instead of burning it all down and moving on? Or that he would find issue with slavery at all, or with child mutilation, or blood sports, or rape?
>I'LL KILL EVERY ONE OF THEM NED>BRING HER TO ME I'LL GORE HER MYSELF
>>223569770Actually Dany's arc ends with her facing hordes of Dothraki on her dragon and ASOIAF concludes with Kevan getting assassinated. And that's before you even get into any of the spoiler WOW chapters.
>>223550568This, and it was also that time of the month. Oopsies happen.
>>223554430>YaraIt's Yarrrr-a. Please respect her pirate heritage.
>>223569129>She threatened to brutally murder a merchant in S2, not because he was any sort of enemy, but becauseHe threatened to leave her out to dry and watch while she dies with all her people. Her response was immature yes but it's not like she had any other card she could've played. Besides offering her pussy or her dragons which is probably what the fat fuck was getting at before Xaro intervened.
I blame Cersei for everything.
>>223556469>>223566882>>223557928>>223569129>>223569762So the ultimate takeway from her story isn't that power corrupts or that people do terrible things in the name of what they consider right or that there's no way to remain moral in a world that demands of you to be ruthless, it's just her moral character that was the issue? "She was always this way", nice story you got there faggots, even better than "lmao Targ madness".
>>223571200Good point.The spice king was being rude to refugees and judging them because of what different Dothraki had done.Fucking racist.
>>223550412She was entitled and demanding with very little room for compromise or mercy from pretty much the second khal drogo died. The fact that most people didn't see her rise and fall as a dictator until the moment she started burning westerosi civilians is one of very, very few things that are not the fault of D&D
>>223568979>She killed the rulers of Meereen and gave it to a sellsword to ruleshe tasked Dario with keeping the peace while the people of mereen picked their own rulers. >She didn't "give" Yara the Iron Islands, Yara took it herselfYara asked for the Iron Islands in exxhcange for helping Daenerys, Daenerys agreed. watch the show jeez
>>223566882>When she met the extremely reasonable and respectful spice merchant in S2, she was already threatening to brutally murder him
>>223571402Yarrra is a D&D invention. Theon's real sister is Asha and she's not a dyke.
>>223571366The dothraki she had with her were mostly women, old men and children, spice king is a pussy.
>>223571597Exactly. They're mostly peaceful refugees. Spice king was a racist that deserved death.
>>223555323It was a yas queen slay moment for women and she wouldve gotten away with it too if it wasnt for mansplaining men
>>223555387Arya killing the Night King was cool though, and obviously straight from the mind of GRRM. On Gurm is capable of such delightful and sassy subversion. I
People say Dany flipped on a whim,She had lost Jorah and countless unsullied and Dothraki friends, she sees Missandei getting brutally beheaded right in front of herFire and Blood are the words of her ancestral house. People who think she turned too abruptly were not paying attention
>>223568437Long haired Cersei on all fours next to Sansa too
>>223571775She was always insane and murderous, and those events didn't help her mental state, but what makes people not buy it is the timing, at the exact time she decides to go ballistic, nothing justifies it. She just won, the city has surrendered, the only explanation you could make is that she doesn't want to let Cersei live any longer so she beelines for the castle to kill her without caring about anyone in her way, but she doesn't do that, she does zigzags above the city burning down commoners for no reason.If they gave her the slightest trigger to explain it, it could have made sense, but what she does is the equivalent of a PTSD ridden character in a movie having a perfectly normal meal with someone, then out of nowhere stab that other person in the throat, for no reason, no trigger, nothing, just randomly decided to do that.
>>223550412>>223550598Tikkun Olam.The healing of the world can only happen throught balance of good and evil. And it doesn't specify exactly who have to commit the evil deeds.
>>223550412>Why did she suddenly become a genocidal maniac?but she was born a Targaryen.
>>223550598They’re white haired inbred alien looking freaks that only have had a chokehold on the world because they are fortunate enough to have giant lizards that breathe fire while the other great houses don’t have shit in comparison besides a slightly larger fucking wolf? The world is a better place with them going extinct
>>223550725>normans Every house but ironically enough especially the Barathians were intermarried dozens of times with the targs. GRMM is banking on you and all other normies not know british history or that the entire book series is just the War of the Roses between lancaster and the plantaginets. And will end with GRRM's Tudor faction (tbd?) picking up the pieces after the main players kill each other. Now the iron bank with it's mossad wing in the house of black and white? banking no one read the Merchant of venice? Martin was a bit on the nose with that one, oy gevalt he did an antisemitism with that one.
>>223572771Very well said, and torching entire populations may actually be a good deed while looking evil. In the context of this series, OF COURSE
I think I fucking mussed something>6x5>bran is bitching about warging and wants to see more of the memory with ned>6x6>he and the chick are wandering around in the snow getting chased by undead, and apparently the three-eyed raven diedWhat the fuck happened?
>>223574770You missed the part where Bran goes to hang out with the Night Kang in a dream and he touches him which cancels out the magical cave aura of protective magic for some reason.
>>223550412Because they ran out of GRRM material and the show-runners might've been able to write a screenplay from existing source material, but could not write a story for the life of them.Final seasons were in the height of wypipo = bad and "errhm akshually, the good guy is really the bad guy".
>>223574875Looking at the surnames if the writers I am somehow not suprised by this
>>223574846Ah, yeah, that rings a bell. I wonder if I missed a whole episode or just that part>>223574875Doung this second watch, it's kind of fucking nuts.The first 4 seasons are better than I remember, but 5 and 6 is so much worse.>quippy dialog everywhere>all the rape culture is completely dropped and handwaved so the wildlings and dothraki can be sympathetic>girlbosses all over the shopShit's getting hard to watch
>>223569398Indian nigger browns got RAPED feminist cunts got RAPED commie leftists got RAPED targloving faggots got RAPED season 8 was the greatest humiliation ritual of all time and certified KINOAsoiaf is an incel chud franchise = CONFIRMED
>>223574875>he thought dany was the good guy the whole time and then got humiliation ritualed and made a fool HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>223575071tar gloving is a necessary practice actually, prevents the bat from slipping from the hands
Because the show was over and she had to bypass character development to become BASED AS FUCK that's why.But she was always like this, only her friend and allies convinced her to not go full BASED. When it cost her the lives of people she really loved, she said fuck it.It worked. It was easy. She now knew she could change the world for the better. But she was also blinded by the dick and didn't think her boytoy would object.
Why did she fall in love with her rapist? That’s so unrealistic, women hate rape
>>223575736Women never fly off into uncontrollable fits of rage and refuse to accept accountability in the aftermath either, what is this show even on about?
>>223575736He was hot and had a big cock.
Uh, well, you see, she uh, forgot, that she wasn't insane.
>>223559319KEK
>>223565736She's trying, okay?
>>223576111For you.
>>223554430Anon please, you are ruining the antisemitic incel circlejerk.
>>223554319It would have been a bit more nuanced if she came to a crossroads of "in order to win, you will HAVE to have some unnecessary collateral damage", but instead it was just "ok you won, it's over, good job" followed by her murdering every single civilian for the sake of it.
>>223556616This scene is misinterpreted way too often. She isn't pregnant, but she's telling Raymun she's pregnant by him to get him to marry her so she can move up in the world.
>>223555189Still funny
>>223565827She was so pretty
>>223575071>>223575130You're trying way too hard.
>>223550568I can have sex with her in compensation.
>>223566897Pretty much, only this time without Pedro since he has to get his head caved in a century later
>>223550412I hear the books foreshadowed a lot better.
>>223580724Based Jannies. Take your meds loser.
>>223566882>>223569762>the rare good acts she did were solely because that was how she believed a rightful Queen should act, not because it was her nature to do good>Dany never did the right thing because she felt it was right, because she had an inner desire to do good, but solely because she thought that's what a rightful queen should do. Dany's life revolves entirely around getting the throne at any cost, and she believes larping as a proper queen to be a way to accomplish that. She never internalizes moral lessons or valuesDamn right. This is how Dany actually is>Slaves, Dany thought. Khal Drogo would drive them downriver to one of the towns on Slaver's Bay. She wanted to cry, but she told herself that she must be strong. This is war, this is what it looks like, this is the price of the Iron Throne.>Behind them, the girl being raped made a heartrending sound, a long sobbing wail that went on and on and on. Dany's hand clenched hard around the reins, and she turned the silver's head. "Make them stop," she commanded Ser Jorah.>"Khaleesi?" The knight sounded perplexed.>"You heard my words," she said. "Stop them." She spoke to her khas in the harsh accents of Dothraki. "Jhogo, Quaro, you will aid Ser Jorah. I want no rape.">The warriors exchanged a baffled look.>Dany heard Jhogo shout. The rapers laughed at him. One man shouted back. Jhogo's arakh flashed, and the man's head went tumbling from his shoulders. Laughter turned to curses as the horsemen reached for weapons, but by then Quaro and Aggo and Rakharo were there. She saw Aggo point across the road to where she sat upon her silver. The riders looked at her with cold black eyes. One spat. The others scattered to their mounts, muttering.What a two-faced bitch, clearly doing it all for societal approval.
>>223580705i barely watched this show but it did feel like it was suppose to have a lot more Jaime in the end then what was given. >the greatest sword at the time>he fights a nobody (show canon) and barely wins Just looked weird
>>223566955There's a reason Daenerys finds herself dealing with revolt after revolt after revolt once she's conquered Slaver's Bay. Even the handful of reasonable Ghiscari can't trust her to not decide to kill them on class-based lines, and she upended a social order that had existed for thousands of years overnight, with basically zero consideration for building a new one, since Daenerys is just used to everyone worshipping her because she's hot and has dragons, and cannot conceive of a world where she can't just have her way. The funniest thing about the show's finale is I 100% expected Daenerys to become even worse than her father. But the show's writers starting simping for her just like her in-universe followers, meaning it comes out of left field in the show.
>>223580788it's one of the "first bookisms", he originally was supposed to play a much larger role in the story
>>223574770https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx0wvv3RclY
>>2235807792/2, Is there no end to virtue signalling?>"I have heard all I care to of their training." Dany could feel tears welling in her eyes, sudden and unwanted. Her hand flashed up and cracked Ser Jorah hard across the face. It was either that, or cry.>Dusk had begun to settle over the waters of Slaver's Bay before Dany returned to the deck. She stood by the rail and looked out over Astapor. From here it looks almost beautiful, she thought. The stars were coming out above, and the silk lanterns below, just as Kraznys's translator had promised. The brick pyramids were all glimmery with light. But it is dark below, in the streets and plazas and fighting pits. And it is darkest of all in the barracks, where some little boy is feeding scraps to the puppy they gave him when they took away his manhood.>It was a long, dark, windy night that followed. Dany fed her dragons as she always did, but found she had no appetite herself. She cried awhile, alone in her cabin, then dried her tears long enough for yet another argument with Groleo>Dany pushed her food about her plate. She dare not glance over to where Grazhar and Qezza stood, for fear that she might cry. The Shavepate has a harder heart than mine. They had fought about the hostages half a dozen times. "The Sons of the Harpy are laughing in their pyramids," Skahaz said, just this morning. "What good are hostages if you will not take their heads?" In his eyes, she was only a weak woman. Hazzea was enough. What good is peace if it must be purchased with the blood of little children? "These murders are not their doing," Dany told the Green Grace, feebly. "I am no butcher queen."No queen has clean hands, Dany told herself. She thought of Doreah, of Quaro, of Eroeh … of a little girl she had never met, whose name had been Hazzea. Better a few should die in the pit than thousands at the gates. This is the price of peace, I pay it willingly. If I look back, I am lost.A bitch through and through.
>>223581654Fucked up the formatting there at the end, damn. Also janny really didn't want me to post this for some reason lol, that's why it took so long for me to post second part.
>>223569034Why?
>>223581026>There's a reason Daenerys finds herself dealing with revolt after revolt after revolt once she's conquered Slaver's Bay.Its because she came in and ended a millennial long cultural practice that was the backbone of their economy and society. Robb Stark can't even keep his own Northern men under control. You think anyone can end slavery and it go smoothly? This is a constant with leadership in ASOIAF. It's fucking near impossible and basically destroys anyone who tries.
>>223566955>That scene always felt wrong to me, like it was written by someone with 0 understanding of politics. Dany makes a deal with the slaver, then goes back on her word, burns him alive and steals the army for herself. She has proven that her word is utterly worthless, why would anyone ever interact with her instead of shooting her with an arrow as soon as she shows her face? Honor matters, it's why the Red Wedding was so inconceivable and why it's seen as such an evil act, and Dany has shown she is a honorless murderous maniac.And yet the Red Wedding still happened. Over and over in ASOIAF power outweighs honor. Danys rule is based on power. She doesn't need her word, especially when she's in the middle of slavers bay trying to end slavery. It's kind an all or nothing situation. Slavers aren't going to give up slavery because they trust your word.
>>223567352>Dumb question. Targaryens are known in the books as those treating a thin line between sanity and insanity. It was very lore consistent and I am sure Martin cannot finish his lame book just because it was his idea for the ending. It's obvious for anyone who was paying attention.There's like shitload of asshole Targs but there's like 2 or 3 legit crazy ones. And that's not even taking into account they live in a world were magic is real. Where there's a dude living in a tree invading peoples dreams telling them to do shit. Aerion might be crazy for drinking wildfire but fuck, for all we know he had some old god gaslighting him for years telling him it's a great idea. It's like that Stannis is pure iron line. Just because a character says something in the book doesn't mean it's true.
>>223551988Came here to post this
>>223580788His duel with Brienne was supposed to showcase how overwhelmingly superior he is to any fighter not named Barristan Selmy but the shitty choreography and the early onset of girlbossery prevented that. Brienne survived solely due to him being rusty and malnourished after a year in captivity and her being autistically focused on defense in her training.
>>223550412She just kinda forgot how to be sane
>>223551988It's psychosis chud.
>>223581343Really?
>>223578220This
>>223550412She started going mad in season 1.
>>223582841Yeah he was supposed to be king after Joffrey that's why there's some leftover foreshadowing like how Jon thinks to himself after seeing Jaime that that's what a king should look like
How long until /tv/ finally accepts that the hacks aren't DnD, but Grrm?
>>223582888neither are hacks but in the long run D&D will be redeemed, they were in an impossible situation adapting a story that doesn't fucking exist
>>223582854Yeah, what a mad cunt >>223580779
>>223582854true, human sacrifice is pretty nuts
>>223583208>Please care about MirrimazhurrdurrGo on, say something about Dany's reaction to Viserys getting himself killed. Do it.
>>223583208It's kind of based that the prophecy of Rhaego was halted, Dany died, and Arya killed the Night King.Everything Dany did was meaningless lol.
>>223583241>about Dany's reaction to Viserys getting himself killed*lack of reaction
>>223552334It blows my mind that so many fags bought into D&D's half-assed explanations. No, it's not monstrous to kill your enemies. It's not madness to serve justice and it's not cruelty to execute traitors. You don't go from burning enemy troops and ships to just casually genociding innocents. Inb4 you do if you're a Targaryen, suck my dick and eat my ass.>>223554364If your only justification for shitty writing is "lol madness" you don't have an argument.
>>223583276>"i'll cut the baby out myself">crown_for_king.mp3>nooo poor Viserys why'd you do that? :(