Now that the dust has settled, what do we think of Sideways?Some exceedingly comfy wine drinking
Sideways is good shit. Thanks for reminding me to watch it again.
>>223558921I like Beer and liquor but I just don't care for wine
>>223558921I hate comedies that aren't actually comedies. No it's not witty or clever you're just a pretentious asshole who pretends fart jokes aren't funny so you never have one. Everyone yes... EVERYONE loves fart jokes if you claim that's not the case you're a fucking liar liar fart on fire.
>>223559475>t. I don't understand and I can't enjoy comfy kinoI feel bad for you :(
>>223559475You must drink Merlot
>>223559475it's a funny movie thoughPaul Giamatti runs into a room where two people are having sex to steal back a wallet and the man chases him into the street with his dick flopping all over the place
>>223559750That's just crude. No thanks.
>>223559475NOT NOW MILES!
is this the thread?
>>223559596He didn't hate merlot, he just didn't drink it because it reminded him of his ex (who he cheated on)
>>223559791As a fellow with a curved cock, I wonder whether this sex position is feasible
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>>223559750literally the only part to merit a chuckle out of me
>>223558921Payne is a pain in the ass woke TDS case IRL but this is a very enjoyable film albeit completely implausible and the lead character is a scumbag who steals cash from his elderly mom.
>>223558921This movie reshaped the wine industry.> the 2004 movie Sideways caused a measurable drop in the price and demand for Merlot, a phenomenon widely known as the "Sideways Effect">"Pinot noir production in California has increased roughly 170 percent since Sideways was released," says wine industry analyst Gabriel Froymovich of Vineyard Financial Associates, noting that total wine grape production has increased 7 to 8 percent during the same time. >"I think people who were into wine saw the passion for pinot noir in the movie, decided to explore that variety a bit, and realized how lovely a wine that grape makes."
Holdovers better
c'mon milessss...we gotta get your bone smooched
>>223562850buying wine is easy.you get the one that costs 10 dollars and is made nearby.they all taste approximately same, any differences are negligible.
>>223563013Obviously higher demand affects business
virginia madsen was so fucking hot in this. hot in everything, honestlythe two male leads said on the commentary track that it was okay to talk about her big tits because she never shuts up about them
very comfy movie, a lot of many things, but not too much of anything. had me drinking a lot of wine for a bit. remember to turn down the volume to appreciate your wine.
Wine? Yeah I just buy this at Sam's Club and drink it with my dominos delivery pizza.
I AM NOT DRINKIN ANY FUCKIN MERLOT
>>223562850>Watch Sideways>Afterwards make a note of trying Pinot Noir>Its an incredibly basic fruit flavored red wine>Try Merlot>Its an incredibly basic fruit flavored wine>Stick to Cabernet and Malbecs insteadThe pinot jerkfest this movie has is ridiculous, but it's an incredibly comfy movie 9/10>>223563540Based as fuck. I think the secret meaning of this movie is to just do this
>>223558921A great comfy movie, one of my favs.
I watched that movie at my aunt's place when I was 13 or 14, she was surprised I enjoyed it since it's a 'mature film'. That's true, but I think it's just kino, well written, funny, believable.
>>223564258Next time you tell that story, say you banged her after that.
>>223563540>>223563013>>223564183Not a big wine guy, but it has been my understanding that you either buy cheap wine or super expensive wine. No serious. wine drinker will give you shit for drinking cheap stuff.
>>223564264I didn't, though. If you'd like to imagine that I did, well, I won't hold it against you.
>>223564352It's not for me, it's about enhancing your story. Punching it up. You wanna sell that script.
>>223564370I respect that, it's a pretty toothless story as it stands. But if I were to make a topical remark, I'd say it's still better than most of the stuff Hollywood is producing these days.
>>223559052>>223558921Wine is for children and women
>>223564183>Stick to Cabernet and Malbecs insteadBased>>223564341Some wines are ok at the cheap end and some are better at the expensive end. Personally I stay away from merlot because it's too dry for my tastes and cheap merlots give me a massive headache. I'm talking the mother of all headaches. Not a hangover as it happens within minutes.
>>223564258>>223564382Say you told your aunt you also like mature ladies and gave her wink. Then things escalated quickly from there but it's a story for another day
>he thinks Sideways is about "wine"
some anons think that the movie should have ended here. thoughts?
>>223564521nah, it needed a hopeful ending for Miles. It would have been too bleak, otherwise.
>>223564535i feel like a lot of Payne movies have that option. he even filmed scenes for Election where the two leads have a heart to heart and make up at the end and it was fucking terrible. I kinda thought The Holdovers had too much of a nice bow on it at the end for my taste
>>223558921Looksmatch is too unconvincing, even for 20 years ago
>>223564915she was super into wine and went through a recent divorce. she was probably looking for something entirely different than her ex
>>223559475that isn't the case, much of the enjoyment people get out of toilet humor stems from homosexual interests overlapping, homosexual men have a lot of scatological preference for obvious reasons. people who have never found excessive toilet humor funny are simply just straight at the core, there really is no right or wrong here honestly, and it's not pretentiousness, no offensive to toilet humor lovers.
>>223564915It's really not that far off
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>>223560004With a sidways you-know-what, it was the only POSSIBLE pussition.
>>223562850Pinot finally crashed about 4 years ago; its percentage of the shelves has dropped significantly. Amazing what a movie can do. Properly directed, we could probably end racism, sexism and/or fascism through the power of film.
>>223563013I don't drink wine, I drink Pepsi!
>>223564449White wines are too sugary/sweet and not good for your heart the way reds are.
>>223564521He became alcoholic Han Solo??
>>223558921The art of making an easy-to-watch comfy drama is underrated and Payne is the master of it, see Cameron Crowe for how to mess this type of movie up.
>>223565636Is this where You Can See Everything (2026) got its iconic shot?
>>223564915Ironically, this pairing was with a woman much older than the male lead--the exact opposite of the hollywood trend.
I drank about 11 beers yesterday. No wine, a little hennessey. Just shat a watery mess.
>>223558921When the names aren’t marched up with the order of the faces it pisses me off.
>>223564535Good point, and it's fortunate we got the ending we did, for comfiness' sake. In the dir's commentary, he says he originally filmed the final scene with Miles peering into Maya's windows after no one answers his knocks only to find the apartment empty and obviously abandoned: she had ghosted him. This would have been appropriate for the loser that Miles was, but he said that would have been too much and he wanted it to end on a hopeful note. Well played.
>>223563089Even Sandra Oh was hot in this, well kinda
>>223559750In the book, this scene was much darker and nigh unenjoyable: Miles was caught by the trucker who threw him into the pool, held him under and started to strangle him. Jack, waiting, but not asleep in the car, heard the commotion and rescued Miles from certain death. Minor detail: if you're trying to portray the home's occupants as working class white trash, they likely would not have had an in-ground pool.
>>223558921It's a decently comfy road trip comedy. Why does /tv/ act like it's the greatest film ever made?
>>223567455it's baby's first real adult comedy/drama see>>223564258
>>223567000>Properly directed, we could probably end racism, sexism and/or fascism through the power of film.There was a study done some years back proving exactly that
>>223567015Why not both?
the kino sequel
>>223562850>I think people who were into wineNo, it was just pseuds. I was a bartender at the time. Normies started drinking wine and they drink what they saw the movie tell them to, just like fast food commercials.
>>223567662>diet
>>223567812>I was a bartender at the time.Real wine drinkers aren't at bars. I'm not even talking about the snobby ones, just in general
>>223568846This. Winos don't actually demand/crave social interaction and affirmation. One of our few strengths.
For me? It's syrah, the best red wine
What do we think of The Napa Boys?
>>223558921hasn't this been universally considered one of the best movies of the 2000's since it came out?
>this was a looksmatch in 2004WTF happened where this used to be somewhat realistic, same with Adam sandler and all of his movie wives. Now you wouldn't dare have a pairing like this
>>223558921>>223562850>>223564449i didnt watch this movie for years because i thought it was a wine movie. even the thread here talks about it as a wine movieits actually not about wine at all and is just a really good literally me movie thats a slice of life of a random loser
>>223559052I mostly feel the same. I LOVE spirits and what you can do with them and have dozens of bottles of various rums, whisky, gins, liqueurs, mixers etc. and drinks them straight and in all kinds of cocktails. I like some beer and enjoy it often enough and feel it's a practical drink that's nice when you want to be able to drink something fizzy and alcoholic without much sugar.Wine is something where, I can recognize that certain people might legitimately be super into it, but I only enjoy a few of the wines I've tried and don't get what people see in it at large. It's such a finicky drink that's easy to fuck with with storage and oxidization and most of it just has a gross taste to me that makes it not worth drinking. Like, I'm super into Scotch in a way that's similar to how winos love their drink, but I don't have the tongue to get it.
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>>223569170What's funny about this is even though he's a fugly, she's still quite a few years older than him.
I watched like, an hour of this movie then quit because it was boring. I am not old enough to care about these dudes having midlife crises or whatever
>>223569935>its actually not about wine at all
>>223558921The fat waitress was the best part.
>>223558921So did the coast road almost exactly where they went just before this movie came out.It felt like I was doing that trip agian.
What's the most you ever spent on a bottle of wine?
>>223571317>I don't know. I couldn't say
>>223567662god damn it beaners ruin everything!
>>223571394Fine, you can have it with coca cola
winebros?
>>223571394>>223571551iirc its traditionally served in a plastic bag
>>223565605You're trying too hard you pretentious loser.
>>223563540Unironically just add French brandy to Dr. Pepper and that's basically 90% of Paso Robles swill wine.Not even joking you can buy nearly any other decent, likely organic, Cali red for the same price as J. Lohr.
>>223564341In my experience, you can get some great bottles for $15-$20, and to get anything substantially better you have to spend $75+. Everything under $15 is swill, everything over $30 you're being suckered by the branding.
>>223567150That's the default most of the time since it lets multiple actors to get a place of prominence.
>>223573856>Everything under $15 is swill,Sure, but sometimes I want to wake up with a migraine.
>>223558921Whatever happened to the guy who won the goon sesh with Paul giamatti
>>223563089Meh. Looks too old. For me it was her in the mid 80s (specifically Electric Dreams, a great movie /tv/ should watch)
>>223575694thats a weird one but bud cort was a good choice
>>223569086>Jay and Silent Bob Sideways is technically a View Askewniverse entry?
>>223558921I kind of felt bad for the asian lady when she chucks a moody with the motorcycle helmet.
>>223558921>>223563036>>223563036Wait a second???
>>223563195...just the faintest soupcon *smirk* of, like, asparagus...
Paul Giamatti is intensely human
>>223567353you mean above-ground?
>>223567353>>223576317I'm sorry I misread the "not have had", FUCK
>>223574535the case price is the same as the per-bottle price...
>>223567662DeGaulle wanted nukes for days like this
>>223573746>you can buy nearly any other decent, likely organic, Cali red for the same price as J. Lohr.Okay, name them and I'll buy them if I see them.
>>223573746>Unironically
>>223577849uninsincerely
>>223559791Kek the Asian coal burner actually thought she had a shot with that chad white guy
>>223577928he confessed he loved her though and was considering cancelling his wedding
>>223577928Go away
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>>223578615I could fix her. Starting by having her mix vodka with Sprite and merely drinking wine by itself.
>>223571317>Futures - Delivery in early 2028lolThat's still sub $500 a bottle though, so it's not quite as crazy as it looks initially, though you're still just betting on whether it'll actually be good.
>>223573666 lmao faggot
>>223578983>Starting by having her mix vodka with SpriteYou can do all kinds of cool stuff with rum and random things that actually work well rumfags overrate how good rum is to sip by itself despite it being a god tier versatile mixer.
>>223579160When I was in high school THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO the girls would chase Bacardi white with marshmallows. The viscous pure white puke that resulted would probably make for a million dollar OF these days.
i love this movie and rewatch it all the time. i remember Joe List saying the same thing but made sure to make a note that he fucking hated the joke where a man with his kid overhears Jack saying something fucked up and goes "can ya keep it down, buddy??". such a nitpicky thing to be annoyed about
>>223579287it was really just a scene that didn't need to be included, it added nothing
>>223579312>>223579287alexander payne must just love that actor because he's been in four of his movies
>>223558921I still doesn’t understand the ending Die he kill himself?
>>223579425no
>>223579160>rumfags overrate how good rum is to sip by itself despite it being a god tier versatile mixer.It really depends on the rum. Not all rums are good for that, and it depends on the year too.
a popular wine professional decided to submit one of the cheapest and worst-tasting wines he could find to an international competition, and he ended up exposing the entire industry. Eric Boschman is a highly respected wine expert from Belgium. Since he wanted to prove that a lot of wine labels are simply the result of good marketing, he decided to work with a local TV program to come up with an experiment. They literally went out of their way to find the cheapest and least palatable supermarket wine they could, paying just $3 for it. But to make it seem super fancy, Eric made up a background story for the wine, citing its high-quality indigenous grapes and even cooking up some fake lab data.With the TV program's help, Eric also put together a marketing campaign in which he lavishly praised the wine to any of his fellow professionals who would listen. After finally submitting this $3 wine under the fancy fake name Château Colombier, they were surprised to discover that they had actually won first place. Despite the Gilbert and Gaillard International Wine Competition being considered very popular and prestigious, the judges never background-checked anything and simply praised the wine as "silky and fresh" with a "rich and pleasant palate." The judges then informed Eric that he could now place the prestigious gold stickers on his bottles as a sign of quality, as long as he paid the 60 euros it cost for a thousand of them.
i'm having wine now :) i feel just like paul giamatti
>>223579552One of the saddest parts of life is that pretty much every industry works this way, even down to how individual employees are hired or promoted.
>>223579842>>223579552its just the perverse incentives, they have zero incentive to judge things accuracy because that will fuck their cashflow up and every incentive to rate things highly because that gives them more money.
one of the funniest parts of the movie was after miles shitting on jack for looking at young girls miles goes and gets porno mags and even says "no...the new one please"that guy working at the gas station actually worked there. when people were visiting the entire location list the guy was still manning the counter
>>223579887It proves that people with money can force their way into any industry and dominate just through having enough money to market the shittiest of products and lowest skilled performers. It's like how when you look into the top youtubers it tends to be people who market nothing but thin air and they all came from money while pretending to have come up hard
>>223580049Well that's how jagermiester got popular. It was a bittom shelf drink from a company that was nearly bankrupt. What's his name bought it, raised it to top shelf prices, gave it a away at nearby colleges/fratboy parties, then lowered it to midshelf to make it "affordable" and bam.If youve ever had a jagerbomb, you got tricked by a suit
>>223580049>into any industryno this is what an industry inevitably does to itself. any contest is purely for advertising.>>223580106herb liqueuer is just tasty stuff, idk if it had any competition to begin with they just needed to create a market
>>223580049>>223579842This is why sports are ultimately the most based hobby/pursuit. It doesn’t have to be stuff like apehoop or handegg it could be practical shooting or racing but it must be an objective competitive standard or people will crawl up their own ass in a hurry.
>>223580106>If youve ever had a jagerbomb, you got tricked by a suitDamn, they got my approx $300 lifetime. I guess I'll toss a fuckin' bomb in their HQ next time I'm in their neighborhood.
>>223580226This gets fucked up in anything where 'judging' is a huge component or points are based off this.
>>223578072You are brown.
>>223580170>any contest is purely for advertising.That's more of a new thing. Competitions have existed for quantifying expertise and help to improve products and processes. It's just that people have learned that you can stack a lot more events into a competition for marketing and networking. It's been taken to the point where now* some competitions exist solely as a front for that purpose.
i'm drinking wine and i feel like miles when he was on that double date and just gets more and more miserable and annoyed with everyone
>>223559052>>223564439Kinda ironic given that drinking beer fucks up your endocrine system is horrific ways with phytoestrogen: it's literally making you into a soilet, into more of a woman. Wine drinking, on the other hand, aside from being patrician and refined, is associated with various health benefits, including better cardiovascular health and improved protection against respiratory tract infections like cold and flu.
>>223558921You guys didn't tell me there's a jap version of this
One of those movies where it's unbelievable that anyone would want to spend time in the company of the tedious protagonist.
>>223565636>>223567094
>>223582467It is absolutely awful. FUCKING TERRIBLE.
>>223569170they weren't a looksmatch. They were a personalitymatch. He was just deluding himself into thinking he could get back together with his ex-wife.
>>223582555How does it differ, besides obviously having the hotter women?
>>223582467This is that movie's version of Virginia Madsen.
>>223565605This is a 12-year old's take. Gays do fuck butt, but they're not generally into scat humour.
>>223579312It added humour, dumbass. That scene was hilarious.
>>223582601It's just a horribly amateurish pointless remake. The babes are hot though.
>>223583153Curious, that they still kept the ethnically-asian barmaid. What were the odds?
>>223580233Definitely not salty lmao
>>223558921If this film was made today it would memed to death as Chad Vs Virgin. >>223559052Beer makes you fat as fuck and liquor is alcoholism tier.>>223562850>California >WineFrench wine or nothing.>>223569170Is she still in school despite looking 40? It's a very realistic loophole. He was a teacher at a very good school so he was status maxed in comparison.>>223576275Reverse Halo effect
>>223583299>Is she still in schoolShe'd just been divorced and was trying to start life over again, possibly as a horticulturalist.
>>223579259>When I was in high school THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGOWas it back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Mark? Was that how you used to make the party start?
>>223583206In Japan? 1 in a million
>>223583223mama mia!
>>223558921for me, it's Nebraska
>>223558921this movie isnt about wineit's all allegorical for how people aresee the segment about Pinot vs Cabernet
>>223584121We know Miles is Pinot. What wine was Jack? Stephanie? Maya?
>>223558921Its an absolutely fine movie, but it doesn't have any strong visual identity or tone that makes it worth recommending to anyone.
>>223584917>strong visual identity or toneThose aren't the only reasons people watch movies
>>223579259wtf
>>223565605I despise toilet humor and I plap femboyboys. Now, granted, femboys aren’t gay, but that is a point of contention- nevertheless thoughbeit there is still some busting of the crustal region, per se. YMMV
>>223584030based. very underrated in his filmography. still probably my third favorite though
>>223571551W-why would you need an instruction video for this drink?
>>223585423No, but it makes something memorable
>>223586872It's called content, babe.
>>223587337Lots of people remember this movie and recommend it. Seems like a silly metric to use for whether or not to recommend something.
>>223569086Wow.
man is capable of amazing things
>>223558921The scene where he starts chugging the wine from the spit buckets is the single most disgusting thing ever put on film.
>>223571551For a very brief period of time I remember Mt. Dew had a sangria flavor, which was actually great, but I only saw it in the store twice before it vanished, and I think it was only ever a regional thing to start with. Perfectly balance of tart and sweet.
>>223567000>>223567625We already did all that but then the woke shit happened
>>223564183For me its a nice chianti
>>223587761In the context of the movie, it wasn't a spit bucket; it was just a bucket to dump the rest of the wine you were smapling if it turned out you didn't like it. Still gross to drink it, but not really that much. The director made the tasteful choice to change it from a spit bucket to merely a dump bucket; and unless you're actually a pretentious, snooty winetaster yourself, you'd never know that those buckets are actually meant for spitting than pouring leftovers like an old English pub that'd sell the leftover swill to drunkards at half price.
>>223559052i love vodka, just straight vodkaradler is even worse, I would drink liters and liters of it in the summer
>>223588716Thats not a call-me-a-cab. The point of the drink is that its HUGE, pure booze, with enough sugar to make it go down a drunk chick's throat without trouble. It was at some bar on Ocean drive in Miami.
>>223588884Unless you're chasing whales that is a large drink
Comfy Sideways thread up 2 whole days.Sometimes /tv/ comes through.
Another wine kino, though more focused on the business side iirc
>>223587761yeah boyyy
>>223562850In all fairness merlot is pretty ass. I really thought growing up that red wine looked so much better than white but as an adult I realize it's pretty much all look and whites taste much better. Pinot Grigio or chardonnay for me. If I'm gonna drink red it's gonna be a blend as merlot and pinot noir disgust me and cab sav is barely passable.
