is Generation Kill the only good iraq war kino? The only other one I know about is...Jarhead
>>223560054No, you'll want to google "juba the sniper of iraq" for the only good Iraq war kino.
>>223560347So meme propaganda like the Kiev pilot? You seem mentally ill.
>>223560054>child grooming standards
>>223560054>Jarhead1991 and 2003 are entirely different wars
i mean i do enjoy the hurt locker, there are some great scenes.
>>223560054Jarhead is kinothree kings is kino
>>223560054
>>223560867TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO
>>223560867>TEMPO>TEMPO>TEMPOHey Godfather, how'd your voice get like that?
>>223560915Just lucky, I guess
GK is good because it's not trying to be propaganda. I'm sure a lot of it is dramatized but I bet for a lot of soldiers the invasion really was just a boring road trip in the desert with the occasional explosion going off.
>>223560990Think what you will about Simon's politics, but he can do realism. Fucking Treme almost killed me with it.
>>223560990you're not immune to psyops
>>223561067I'm White, you gay muslim retard. White people don't give a shit about dead muslims. foreigners aren't people
>>223560054Warfare and American Sniper are good.What's fun is they work as sequels to each other. They both take place in Ramadi in 2006, after Chris Kyle and Task Unit Bruiser pulled out the movie Warfare takes place.Also "Three Kings" is decent Iraq War 1 kino.
>>223560990except for the cool shootouts where they don't suffer any casualties?
>>223560990>I bet for a lot of soldiers the invasion really was just a borinIt only shows the first two weeks before they start taking cities, the last episode shows them digging in and they're about to start taking casulties because that's when the insurgency starts.Holy fuck, you're dumbhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
>>223561318Specified "The Invasion" not the whole war, retard.
>>223560915Sucked too much of Mattis' cock, i guess
>>223561266>coolthose shootouts are horrifying and the books admit outright it's sheer kriegsluck that carried themwhich is why Fick's replacement when they redeployed got killed in an ambush
so rippedfuel was a real thing they sold at GNCs?
>>223561266It's a firsthand account by a civilian reporter who embedded with real Recon Marines tasked with a mission they weren't trained or equipped to do. If you read the book, they are constantly put in situations by their command that puts them at unnecessary risk or gets civilians needlessly killed.It doesn't really sugarcoat anything. It makes the Marines look like a cowboy outfit that seem to punish the one competent officer in the platoon.The TV show stays pretty faithful to the book. Though, some of the Marines say the portrayals of some of the officers are over the top (Captain America for example) and too kind in other areas (Sgt. Maj. Sixta).They do eventually suffer a casualty, Pappy gets shot in the foot. They realize that it was lucky that more did not die. The reporter could've left anytime but for some reason stayed with them for a very long time, maybe because they had so few casualties.Perhaps the book would've never made it past one or two articles if things had gone worse.
>>223561266the only casualties were two guys getting shot, one in the foot and the other in the forearm, which is pretty remarkable desu
>>223561318kek lil bro really thought he cooked here, there were like 200 casualties for the invasion and that's for the entire coalition
I didn't find a single character in GK likeable. I wouldn't have cared if any of them got their legs blown off. Even Ziggy from the Wire, who's supposed to be the comic relief, is an unfunny cunt.
>>223561318As US soldier was more likely to get killed from blue on blue fire or suicide than enemy action.
>>223562041>>223561380You literally think 1991 and 2003 are the same fucking war, lol
>>223561434>It's a firsthand account by a civilian reporterFor less than two weeks after they landed in kuwait and pushed toward their first major objective
>>223561266Say what you want about how America currently wages war, but it's really, really good at minimizing casualties. It's probably a lesson learned from Vietnam. Both America and Russia left the Cold War and learned the opposite approaches to warfighting.
>>223562311anon, the story that this thread is about is specifically about the time before the nation building bullshit. It's about the invasion of Iraq in 2003 which was an overwhelming success as it only took about a month to topple the country. Do better
>>223562408Reckon it's more to do with the extremely overwhelming technological advantage, pretty sure other advanced nations have been faring similarly against goatfuckers in the 21st century
Based Jarhead, causing over 20 years of confusion for ignorant retards
>>223562410ZoooomooomerDumb zoomer.
>>223560723yes. This is the only one i cant think of
>>223561219>American SniperI can only remember maybe 2 scenes, pretty meh
>>223562477I like Jarhead 4: Law of Return where Jake Gyllenhall joins the IDF and fights for Israel
>>223562356strange movie, I kinda liked it though.
>>223562451nta but the way the U.S. trains their soldiers is also a huge reason. The guys that are between the top of command and their soldiers on the ground receive a lot of training and that knowledge gets spread around by moving them where they're needed within the military. They still have to follow orders but they're given lots of leeway on how to achieve their goals which prevents decisions getting bogged down by high command, decentralized command and all that
>>223560054I like watching Apache guntapes, they're kino
>>223562488are you going to tell me where I'm wrong or are you just going to keep pissing and shidding yourself because your feelings got hurt for being an idiot?
>>223562451The dirty little secret nobody likes to bring up is that nobody fares well when fighting the goatfuckers on their turf.Afghanistan has been destroying armies and empires since Alexander the Great's time.
>>223562859You thought 2003 was 1991, you're a dumb zoomer who was in diapers in the early 00s
>>223562948No, they fight extremely well and obliterate the opposition, it's the asymetrical gorilla warfare occupation that goes wrong (because we nerf ourselves with human rights)Afghanistan lost and was ruled by the british for 40 years
>>223562949you're the one that keeps bringing up the Gulf War not me, you're unable to separate the invasion from the entire war because you are an idiot
>>223560867T E M P OEMPO P M E T
>>223563031The British occupation of Afghanistan was far from smooth and cost the British tens of thousands of lives before they abandoned the project after WW1. I wouldnt dare call those decades a success. And the asymmetrical warfare is what I'm talking about. In the end a drone or missile can't hold territory. You need boots on the ground of a competent and loyal local populace to be the boots for you.And then you need your morale to survive the decades long raids and ambushes out of miles of uncharted cave systems. Which frankly no occupying army has been able to demonstrate.Every soldier wants to go home eventually.
>>223562949>>223563075No one died in the iraq war, I saw the jake gyllenhall movie
>>223560723this movie was so retarded. EOD going out on patrols and guard duty and all that shit like that would not happen. That's what infantry are for
>>223562356The end where they released the prisoners was kind of dumb but it’s fun if you imagine it as an extension of Obi Wan and the Dudes characters
good autist bait thread op
My favorite part of the Iraq war was when the Iranian air force used their F-14s to humiliate the Iraq air force, and France had to explain to the UN why they were selling nuclear reactors to Saddam Hussein
>>223563533Just more /pol bait, nothing special
>>223563669Not really. The show is about the initial invasion of Iraq. Not all the crazy shit you hear about what the Seals and Rangers did that escalated things tremendously. These were the guys who signed up after 9/11 to go on a road trip.
>>223560054not a movie about the war explicitly but I really enjoyed The Card Counter (2021). The main character is revealed to have been one of the torturers at Abu Ghraib.
>>223563743Yeah and 95% of the thread is talking shit about America, Israel, and the Middle East. Not the show. /pol bait
I'm assured I will rewatch this show soonI'm assured of this
>>223560054what's iceman's podcast about these days? hope it isn't /pol/ shit
>yeah sure, I'll just play myself in a tv show reliving the first time I ever killed people, no big deal
her name is Noelle
>>223561048This is always said by the most psyopped people on earth
>>223561219Why aren't they wearing ear protection?
>>223564656they put butt plugs in their ears but sometimes when shit pops off they probably don't bother using them so they can hear better
>>223563848Listen to the commentaries, they're great
>he's just a boy>I'm just a girl>can I make it any more obvioushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtg3fSQ-QQ
>>223563871Well I wouldn't exactly call them people
>>223560054If he's looking through a taped-off rectangle, why does it look like circle in the shot?
>>223565192because the field of view is so teeny tiny, like 1/10 the diameter of that scope, that it fits fully inside the slat
>>223563871But Rudy's the spotter, he's not killing anyone.
>>223561016Is Treme worth a watch?
>>223560347Juba...woooow sniper to the boobaaa
>>223560990I think the show is pretty critical of the war. It has a slight anti-war propaganda-ish feel to it to me. But it's subjective. I still think it's great.
>>223560780He can't act. Retard nepo babby.
>>223560054>runs along the ridgeline instead of going down the other side out of sightwas he retarded?
>>223566562they didnt have call of duty so they lacked the instinctual adherence to breaking line of sight and avoiding damage
>>223562408>the goym are actually quite effective at minimalizing sacrificial cattle
Highest honor for the american goyslave is to have their oldest, strongest son come home in a box fighting for a flock of kikes and their oil. Second highest is for them to have an old rabbi come into their home and suck off their newborn baby after permanently mutilating their cocks.
>>223563113The main reason the British empire didn't stay in Afghanistan was because they needed a buffer state between India and Russia.
>>223560054>two wars as ineptly ran as Vietnam>people want to forget about itPoliticians creating bullshit rules of engagement against enemies with none are the kryptonite for successful campaigns.
>>223560380>He is STILL not over the "ghost of Kyiv" meme from 4 years agoSad!
>>223563316Were you there?
>>223567207NTA but I was. I bomb the Americans.
>>223562356
>>223560054There was a film with Matt Damon where they royally fuck up the transition of power in the region. I don't remember the name.
The Wall.
>>223563316All war movies have some kind of inaccuracies so I don’t get why this one is singled out like it’s personally pissing on veterans and americans as a whole. The movie was made for peanuts and the military propaganda department refused to help the producers with anything, but it still managed to evoke what it set it out to do.
>>223567677green zone?
>>223561417>so rippedfuel was a real thing they sold at GNCsYes. Some formula that got banned around that time Ephedra or some shit i stole from my /fit/fag college roomate.
>>223560990Yes it is. You fucking dumb nigger.
>>223562408>how America currently wages warthey don't report the full extent of the damage, it keeps goyim enlistment flowing. "it's not a war therefore we don't have to publicly disclose the number of casualties lol"
>>223567823Yeah, that one. I enjoyed it iirc.
>>223568558Source on this claim?
does whopper taste the same?
>>223568558>ma'am we regret to inform you that you're son has died in combat. However can you PLEASE not tell anyone about this, just tell his friends he moved to Thailand or something, we're really trying to keep those casualty numbers down
>>223568305which elements are propaganda?
>>223566946>kyiv Did the spelling change help get russia out
>>223562408Because we only invade incompetent countries.Notice how long we've been at war with Iran while being unable to get a single boot on their ground
>>223562717All of that doesn't matter when the technology gap is so huge. That is why Iran is rocking our shit
>>223569330>ma'am your son died in a training accident and we will literally never tell you the truth>oorah More like that, Pvt. Redcoat.
>>223567677The book is 100x better just fyi, its called "imperial life in the emerald city: inside iraq's green zone" and was written by the guy who was the iraq bureau chief for the washington post. The amount of incompetence he documents is just unreal.
>>223567631nice
>>223562408>how America currently wages warStart shit with inferior countries with no free standing army.Bomb innocent civilians in shock and awe tacticsGet BTFO and lose to insurgencyKill your own people by freindly fire.Retreat and arm the country with all the left over munitions.Americans are retarded
>>223562410>invasion of Iraq in 2003 which was an overwhelming success as it only took about a month to topple the countryTook 2 fucking decades and you still lost you fucking retard.
>>223570165do you not know what the word invasion means? you can't "invade" a country for 20 years
>>223570200You pretty much can. If you are an invading force and then leave. You didnt conquer the country, you literally just kicked it up, lost a war which was fought in insurgency for 2 decades and left.England invaded countries. South Africa, America, India Australia...USA, all they every do is try, kill innocent civilians, themselves, fail, then leave and like I said, rearm the country when they leave.Absolute dickless mutt retards.
>>223570292>driving tanks through the capital while the president is in hiding doesn't count as conqueringagain I'm talking about the invasion itself which is what GK is about not the whole war, dumb nigger
>>223570516>doesn't count as conqueringNo it doesnt.You would know if you weren't a dickless mutt dirtskin retard. You politicians are infinitely replaceable puppets.Conquering a country is subjugating it, controlling all infrastructure, making it adopt your customs etc.Are the muzzies now chopping their cocks off and being retards?(probably were to begin with)If china come to burgerland and killed your politician does that mean the country is conquered?Invade even.All burger fucks did in iraq was make a FOB and try instill a democratic government they can attempt to control via proxy as democracy is innately corrupt.They are then at war for 2 decades before they retreated because they were beat.Is that conquering...being at war for a country for 2 decades, loosing the war and retreatingHAHAHAHASee how dicklessly retarded you are. Its innate. Irremovable. Because you have no dick, you will never be able to remove your retardation.Simple fact is burgers get BTFO lose every war against war against weak countries with no munitions or standing armies and STILL lose against them.Iraq...twice!, afganistan, somalia, vietnam..now iran.Burgers are just dickless mutt retards, cannon fodder that team kill themselves and lose over and over. Laughing stock of the world.
brown meltdown itt
>>223570713well with such fine arguments like that you clearly must be more educated on the subject than I
>>223570929You dint even need to be educated on the subject. Its obvious as you saw it unfold. To non retards with penises of course!American carpet bombed iraq in shock and awe, killed shit loads of innocent families.Created a FOB.Hanged the leader without any sort of criminal justice, all while doing war crimes like raping soldiers, killing civillians, killing themselves...general cockless muttery retarded shit.... Then got stuck in a war for 2 decades, despite trying subversion divide and conquer tactics. Ultimately loosing a war.Forced to leave and retreat as its an unwinnable war because burgers are duckless mutt retards who cant into war.Retreat, lost war (another one) yet have a bunch of dickless mutt retards like (you) think you won a war you lost....because you are a dickless mutt retard...Same is gonna happen with iran. Gonna lose a war (didnt even announce a declaration of war, ANOTHER war crime) and pretend you won the war because you are a dickless mutt retard.Its fun watching mutts die and get BTFO by goat fuckers.
>>223566562right behind the ridge is a cliff that plummets into lava
>>223571066lay off the ripped fuel
>>223571250What is that? Some dickless mutt retarded shit.i am not one of those monstrosities.
>>223560054why isn't the scope taped off when he's looking down it? Fucking Hollywood horseshit
>>223570153>two more weeks until Israel and the US are no more! inshallah!
Why is that gun so short
>>223571347The world would be such a better place if both these countries were just insta wiped desu senpai but with the jews their entire species need to be weeded out of the world as they are like rats with nests
>>223571275>what is ripped fuel?>in a generation kill threadkek
>>223571390nah, just muslims need death. nobody likes them except leftists and /pol/fags
>>223571275Are you gay? Serious question, because you are hyperfixated on penises.
>>223571390smell ya from here, turdy
>>223571368that's what she said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dg3Us9ld2g
>>223571465civic duty so that everyone knows when you are talking to a burger you are talking to a retard with no cock.They LITERALLY chop their cocks off. They (you) have no penis.Nobody does or ever should take anything you say seriously. You are a cockless dirtskin retard.>>223571478>burger calling anyone a third worlderI would rather be born in india than your helish dystopia. At least I would still have a cock.>>223571446muzzies are OK as long as they are left to their own, its when they come into first world countries that they can cause issues. Can being selective as not all do.
>>223571515I suspected you were a retarded buttfucker. Thank you for confirming. Have a gay ol' day, retarded buttfucker.
>>223571594>seethes>shouts childish insults>runs awayThanks for conceding.
>>223571594>explains simple shit in simple sentences>dickless mutt retard STILL misunderstandsAnd that ladies and gentlemen is the epitome of dickless muttery retardation for you.
what does TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO mean
>>223560054yeahalso my second favorite war kino in general, very accurate and incredibly entertaining.
>>223571665I assume it's something a commanding officer says for the soldiers to continue their speed on a long march
>>223571390You're going to live in "interesting times" if US ever suddenly disappears. It's literally the only reason some countries have yet to ground some people up to corned beef.
>>223560723One of the worst war movies I’ve ever seen. I get what it’s trying to do but it’s so fucking unrealistic it completely destroys my suspension of disbelief.
>>223560054Jarhead is gulf war anon
>>223571856I am a first worlder country. We have millennia of ingrained experience in war. We created all the modern tools and tactics of war. We dont need you. You make the world a worse place.
>>223571897And whom were they fighting?
>>223570052Nice. I'm almost done with Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq by Thomas Ricks. It's been a wild ride so far. This sounds like a good companion book to it.
>>223560347>some flick about a dumb sand nigger that got domed by BASED and REDPILLED American Marine sniperayylmao
>>223561399>kriegsluck that carried themOr maybe the fact that they were going up against literal dogshit retard subhumans that had actual double digit IQ's?
>>223571515Found the Indian.
>>223571934Bruh. The entirety of Europe would fucking melt if US wages war against it for reals. Don't even fucking joke. NATO without US is a shitshow. Case in point, there is no country in Europe that can defend itself alone. US would body those poor freaks lmao. But you don't have to worry though, since Europe is the US's twink boytoy, it'll take care of y'all.
>>223571934> We have millennia of ingrained experience in war. We created all the modern tools and tactics of war. Oh, damn, I didn't know this was a tud-world cope thread, lmao.
>>223571995That rat one would have been a delicacy in Rome during the 10 year Visigoth siege. I've wondered if they ever resorted to cannibalism back then.
>>223571974retards with AKs are still dangerous in an ambush but they don't know what to do when they start fighting back
>>223571995I never understand why these rat soup niggas have to throw in the entire animal like that. I'd also find it pretty disgusting to have to eat an entire goat Also, a dirty dude touching your soup is clearly not as bad as rats
>>223572001You get BTFO by goat fuckers you morons.What do you think is gonna happen when you actually fight a European country, with an actual standing army, with millennia of experience in war, professional armies with actual arms with soldiers that are not mutt conscripts and retards who kill themselves, but professional soldiers. All while having zero fucking supply lines.Your shit will get bombed out the air and water and you would never set foot on european soil.You cant even encroach fucking iran who is 1 country surrounded by enemies, all while using all your resources on geo political bases to supply from.1 ship would be out of resources before it even crossed the Atlantic.Also soon as burgers started war with Europe, the sleeping dragon and vatniks will just take their chance as well. Your country would be wiped and I personally would think genocide of all the only solution.
>>223572040>mutt retarded dickless logicdig yourself deeper cockless retard
>>223572112have you ever asked yourself how retarded mutts are able to be in the military? the system is set up so any retard can be effective as another cog in the machine
@223572112You're not a serious person lmao you don't deserve my (You).
>>223572133>cocklessNo idea what you're talking about, but thank god I'm not a retarded, irrelevant, impotent subhuman like you, kek.
>>223572112>What do you think is gonna happen when you actually fight a European country, with an actual standing army, with millennia of experience in war, professional armies with actual arms with soldiers that are not mutt conscripts and retards who kill themselves, but professional soldiers. All while having zero fucking supply lines.
>>223572191>effective as another cog in the machineIf all cogs are broken, as in they dont have a cock, are retarded, are non white...then the machine is not functioning properly then add to that the "oil" the leadership, dickless, mutt, retarded, nonwhite...the machine is not oiled well.I know you are a cockless retard so it probably never crossed your mind, but did you never realize with all this "supposed might" you pretend your muttland has, why then it keeps loosing war after war against completely trivial and inferior armed countries with no standing armies at all.You think if france, or england went to invade said countries they would get BTFO like burger retards or they would actually fucking do the job, professionally....You burger retards have no skill, nothing but cocklessness, retardation and too much money spent on arms.Arms dont actually win wars. And chopping your cock off, being a mutt or being a retard evidently makes you lose them.
>>223572265post penis
>>223572211>No idea what you're talking about,Of course you dont, you are a dickless, mutt retard, we already ascertained this.WTF.>>223572256>dickless mutt knows nothing of geography.What you are trying to point out is post USSR vassal states...warring among themselves...That dickless retardation in action...again.
>>223572303>no concept of rip>”euro” supremacyyou are brown and will never be a european
>>223572303>Of course you dont, you are a dickless, mutt retard, we already ascertained this.That's funny, because unlike you, I have produced offspring, while you will die miserable, bitter, useless, forgotten, and alone in your little hovel in your irrelevant shitty little country. But at least you'll have random 4chan posts people will have laughed at and mocked you for, for sounding like a miserable, bitter, useless, forgotten shit-heap.And in time even those will be forgotten. While my offspring continues into the future and your corpse will be used as fertilizer to feed them.
>>223572355>cockless mutt spots nonsenseTo be expected. Expect nothing less from dickless mutts.
>>223572363>a cockless mutt produced more cockless mutttsurgghhhYou should do the world a favor and cull it and then an hero.You willingly chopped its dick off so maybe it will have the decency to kill you later in life, but lets face it, you have made it a dickless retard, it will never reach comes mentis. You duckless mutts never do.
>>223570200Putins a quarter of the way there
How is the FX show "Over There"?
>>223560054Shouldn't both eyes be open?
>>223572892shooter's preference
>>223569330>>223569865>The Defense Department regrets to inform you your sons are dead because they were stupid.>Not related to service.With Marines, just say they died during R&R and everyone will believe it.
>>223571368First, it's a rifle. A 7.62mm M24. Based on the Rem. 700 Long Action. Barrel can be short if you expect to snipe at relatively short distances and the pitch and bullets are in harmony.
>>223573220>First, it's a rifleRifles are guns you pseud
Damn, this thread took a turn since last night, huh?I shouldn't be surprised, I suppose.
>>223566787Unironically yes, it's better then comunnism
>>223572256Interesting. We're using Wikipedia?The guaranteed sign that someone is a zog loyalist is their inability to admit that the US lost the war in Afghanistan
>>223573268In layman's terms, yes. But in marinespeak, a gun is what we'd call a cannon, or howitzer, or one's dick, AKA a crew served weapon.
>>223562408I'm sure overwhelming numbers and technological advantage has nothing to do with it and we will continue to spend immense resources to rescue 1 or 2 downed airmen in a peer conflict because that's the American Way dammit
>>223562071I felt that way the first time I watched it. Gave it a second try years later and liked it and the cast much more dunno why. I can say I hate Iraq kino cause I normally just hate the setting. Deserts suck.
>>223563871oh no kwillin pweeplo :((((
>>223571995What ever were those last two? Anyway, for 5 million? Shiiiieeett gimme that rat.
>>223563316Oh gosh that would never, ever happen!!Did you not watch or read Generation Kill? Recon marines were used to do frontal assaults and shit. An ordinance specialist or whatever you'd call it performing other duties is not absurd.
>>223562338I think you mistyped 2 months there bud.
>>223569756>called kiev>russians only a few klicks away from it>change name to kyiv>russians get pushed back to a sliver of land in the DonbassSeems to have helped at least
>>223572001America was carried in both world wars and the Gulf wars by European powers. Their own revolution was only won because the French fought it for them. If you'd like to see how Amerimutts perform without European support, take a look at Vietnam. Or watch the news.
>>223574601>carriedAcross the sea to fight your wars?
>>223574601Yeah the U.S. was able to keep the NVA out of South Vietnam for 20 years until they just decided to stop providing air support to the ARVN.You act like it was some major defeat that the U.S. didn't want to blow up a proxy war with China on their doorstep into a nuclear war over basically nothing. The U.S. simply decided it wasn't worth the trouble after 1975. And they were right, Vietnam flipped from being pro-China to being pro-U.S. Outside of Vietnam, no one in SE Asia is communist. The U.S. occupies Europe, so there's no need to wage a war there presently.If any wars kick off in the EU, it will probably be civil ones.
