How come filmbrain was the only member of the channel awesome cast to fail to break out in any meaningful way?
>>223567535>fail to break out in any meaningful wayI'm pretty sure that applies to most of the TGWTG crew
>>223567535Some of his bad movie beatdowns are actually pretty good, minus the random bits of outdated woke stuff in them.
>>223567768It killed whatever momentum he had when he stopped doing them, now he just does those projector videos which are the typical reviews that everyone does, and nobody gives a shit about them anymore. Bro is doing classic movie reviews like it's still 2015Guaranteed if he pivoted back to bad movie beatdown he would get an audience again, but he's too "proud" for that, he's happy to stay at 35k subscribers for over a decade
>>223567535Still makes me laugh that he couldn't wait to stab Doug in the back when that whole controversy happened, he cut all ties with channel awesome in the hope that the brand would die and all the viewers would flock to him instead
>>223567535>>223567877Even when he did Bad Movie Beatdown he really wasn't anything special, he was generic 'hurr hurr I make fun of bad movie' review guy without not really any editing skills.He never really had the chops to make it big on YouTube even with TGWTG backing.
>>223567535BMB was decently successful, but he saw the writing on the wall that he would eventually run out of material, so he pushed his Projector reviews that absolutely nobody gave a fuck about.
>>223568108>run out of material There's so many bad movies though, thousands and thousands of bad movies and they're being made all the time.He didn't even do a projector review for the new war of the worlds, madness
Kino Brain
>>223568149Brandon Tenold ate his lunch on Youtube, though. That dude is very consistent with his output.
>>223567927>rewatching old midnight screenings>brad mentions how matthew would love this film>hes gonna text him right after they finish up
iirc filmbrain was tgwtg forum admin at the start up until 2010 when Michaud replaced him with HollyHolly was a pain in the ass as forum admin btw
>>223568234Old Midnight Screenings are all hard to watch now. The old Springfield crew Brad doesn't seem that in touch with anymore. Phelan. Allison. Especially any interaction between Brad and Allison knowing now what went down later.It's weird because Allison always came across as a decent person in the old videos. Then you learn she screamed the f word at a toddler and had Brad swatted/wellness checked. I think she called Brad a pdf at one point too. She's horrible. Or at least she is horrible on social media.The whole former TGWTG community is just painful and cringe to check back up on now. And it's cringe to know you grew up with their old content to begin with. Sometimes you escape back to it and it's nice for a while then the cringe remorse sets in and you realize why you stopped watching it and grew out of it in the first place. But the rabbit hole that is this whole former community and all the lore and rumors around it really sucks you in. I think a part of my brain is broken by it at this point. Something that make me smile a bit though was how Doug finally actually clarified the offness of the BLAM meme after all these years in his latest review. I think Lindsay has clarified further back that yes it's sort of off because the gator does still play a part in the plot towards the end. But I don't think Doug has talked about it before.
imagine the smell
>>223568464We used to have a proper internet.
>>223568497I would do filthy things with Lindsay Ellis 15 years ago
>>223568497The bloopers for that are just so sad and bittersweet knowing how it all ended up and she's ashamed she ever had fun and laughed at him now.https://youtu.be/xHsRw5J2DEY?si=M77Hjw_wA02e8se3Just two quirky chungus goofballs.No. I won't get into the stupid rumors about them in this thread. I'm done with that crap. I feel guilty for it. One thing that's obvious though is that they were absolutely very good friends at one point and got on great.
>>223568537She'd metoo you, dude
>>223568490Does anybody even remember half of these fuckers? There was a top tier of Doug, Linkara, Spoony, Nostalgia Chick and I guess Brad but after that it was a who's that of shitty internet reviewers
>>223568593Jacob Geller is her latest scalp.And what if Doug actually infiltrated OneyPlays all along and he's behind the recent allegations against Chris?Maybe Douge and Lindsay are secretly allied taking down their enemies one by one from two fronts? lel
>>223568659We know who's really behind the Oney situationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGF-luE9Fhw
>>223568619the fat one in the top left is a "woman" now
>>223568659Revolver Brad
>>223568619Doug, Lindsay, Noah and Brad were the big four that together drove something like half the site traffic at the peak. Then Linkara and Angry Joe were the tier just below those four. Then the rest.Shoutout to Bennet White though. A real one. He was one of my favorites. He actually did the smart thing and logged off more to take care of his dad or something. Lost tons of weight too.
what has jew wario been up to lately?
>>223568702Brad's the middle man lol.You just know Allison Pregler went into a pants crapping rage at this. You just know.
>>223568490The kind of B.O. that smells like stale taco seasoning mixed with the old Pheonix Axe body spray.
>>223567535The fat guy whp reviewd anime also dissapeared.
>>223568715He's having a blast
>>223568759kek
>>223568735He actually lost tons of weight and logged off to take care of his sick dad or something. He was always one of my favorites on the site.https://youtu.be/mRpCe2_6Ids?si=3PC9-PIQIh1HXCCIhttps://youtu.be/rUsj5EAxIgE?si=PYwekxJlCyaVoVsThttps://youtu.be/larU7Jgw2Ng?si=4VnraZnqd7BjOIuN
>>223568715kek
>>223568771>a tribute film>it's a bunch of autists having pretend fights at some anime convention
>>223568769> take care of his sick dadThat's sad.I'm glad he got to talk about Golden Boy and Angel Cop. I miss the old era of ADV style OVA whith the violent schlock and the dub belcheed out from whoever was in the building that day.
>>223568715>>223568771https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmHAKW1IEA0&t=6546s
>>223568781>it's a bunch of autists having pretend fights at some anime conventionAs Justin would have wanted it to be.
>>223568825he walked right into that garage door
>>223567927Coffee?
>>223568537She always struck me as the type who does filthy things to YOU.In Soviet Russia...
>>223568708>BennetSpoony and Anime Abandon was what kept me comming back to tgwtg back in 2009.
>>223568693They also had Colin Mochrie's son and he trooned out too lol
>>223568884>>223568693RolloT too. It has to be an above average number for that that group right? Like way above what you'd expect
>>223568884Why was TGWTG such a pipeline into sex changes and Breadtube? I still can't piece it together. All I have had is hearsay and circumstantial evidence to go off. Nothing concrete. Was Douge actually just running some kind of cult all along?lol
>>223568957Attention seeking, autism, growing up during the wild west era of the internet, it's not really surprising to be honest
>>223568949That's the based interviewer guy in Kickassia, right?>I must say he doesn't look very happy up there>He's not, Chris. He's definitely notThen they both laugh.Based Brad.
>>223567535he's insufferable and lacks charm
>>223568957This is like asking why does the trans community have such a mental health problem.
>>223568957That period in the early 2010s was when tumblr shit and SJW nonsense was starting to take off and spread online and it hit a lot of vulnerable, mentally ill individuals like crack
>>223569096This, tumblr, anime and tranny groomers
>>223568680Will he finally have his jacket back?
>>223568490>tfw you only recognize Spoony on this pictureFeels good to have forgotten these people
>>223569096Honestly at this point, if you're over the age of 35, grew up on the internet and didn't end up gay or trans, it's kind of a miracle
>>223569162Another group of Trump supporters got his jacket back and cleaned him up later in the night.
>>223569184I'm 33. I dunno if that makes me one of the miracles. I live in a 21 square meter apartment. Currently neeting. Moving soon and might be getting some kind of employment though. I might finally be able to log off soon, anons. Yay.
>>223569218They found out he supports Israel and immediately changed their minds about him.https://youtu.be/mmHpxZHWX1E?si=hYqjGgJvMwgpBLon
>>223568619I never forgot Handsome Tom cause I liked Screwattack when he was there. It's also funny how he spends all of Kickassia looking like he wants to be anywhere else in the world but there.
>>223569488Kickassia was promised to us six thousand years ago.
So 2027 is officially year of the Spoony, right?
>>223569503And 8-bit Mickey.Mickey and That Chick With The Goggles were a couple iirc btw.
Joe...easy on the quesadillas...
>>223569575Imagine if he came back on an alt account, dropping 10/10 gems with no camera just the game footage and his voice, and it takes the whole year for it to catch on that he was making pure peak.>It was the year of the Spoon>And no one knew it
>>223569602Diabetic Diego
>>223569602There's no way those are the same clothes, you'd think having to buy a bigger size of the same clothes you wear for your show every 2-3 years would be a bit of a give away
>>223569656The commitment to wearing the same outfit gets embarrassing when you put on 70 pounds and counting
>>223569611Imagine if he did these streams where he just dished all the dirt and tea he has to spill. That fucker has got to have receipts after all. I think he didn't participate in Change the Channel for a reason.
report eceleb threads as off topic
>>223569602>this is him now>feel old yet?
>>223569611>its been three years since the cameo in the skullduggery snob episodeThe AI Spoony was our last best hope, and it self-terminated. It's time to accept the truth of the Spoony Experiment. No matter how painful that may be for all of us.
>>223569726But there's a trailer. It must come out at some point. Right? R-right?https://youtu.be/a0cpYiRkUIY?si=mlzK0WEvZEOkB2ih
>>223569575He threw in the towel so to speak, there's a recent screencap from his social media that's been posted.
>>223568464Started watching the review and Doug sounds like he's dying.
>>223569778About that.
>>223569778He has had chronic fatigue for a few years now. He has zoned out into REM sleep on a stream too.He's getting colonel Parkered by Mike Michaud.
>>223569775Noah Antwiler was a great reviewer. But his greatness could not last forever.
>>223569826Sir. This is a Wendy's.
>>223569826>>223569692
>>223568464>f word>pdfPlease have some self respect, for fuck's sake.
>>223569838I don't know why he doesn't just do a cross over with Doug. Doug would probably write the whole thing. And the same for Filmbrain.
>>223569838>bluesky
>>223569992Spoony doing another review with Brad and Doug would be neat, even if it was a Midnight Screening type of thing. Brad and Doug would probably have to fly out to do a con appearance near where Spoony lives and on a day off try to convince/drag him go see a movie and riff on it afterwards.
>>223569838>Spoony's breakup with April was in 2019.... Okay, I have my own traumas and grudges and things, and I am an autistic man which makes it harder. But, like... dude, a breakup is a breakup. She was your girlfriend, not your wife or the mother of your children. Don't breakups happen all the time?
>>223570149Yeah. Virtually all of this former TGWTG community are liberals. Live with it.Personally I don't mind their politics that much these day. I'm over it. I still think a lot of the woke stuff is bad but I don't chud out over it.Besides I've always held grudges against the right all along anyway. Especially the christian right. I've stopped caring about religion too. I'm not some edgy ateist and/or satanist or whatever. But the megachurch weirdos? I'll never stop despising them.https://youtu.be/h8g5QsT-RSw?si=OKakHv-VNbT4NoFB
>>223569826Now that's what I call Schizo!
>>223570451You're not wrong. Spoony is being a complete cunt for bringing April up here. That poor girl pissed away years of her life taking care of that ungrateful bastard and he doesn't even have the decency to keep her name out of his mouth. And I say all this as an April hater.
>>223570451I think it's more Scarlett he's still not over. And that was in 2011.
>>223570513Hi, LordKat/Felicia.
>>223570411I think the issue for Noah just like with Lindsay is Mike Michaud.
>>223570518It's April. He had a mini meltdown a few years back and that Rachel person tweeted that he could talk to her about it and Spoony tweeted back something like "I don't want to talk to you! I want April back!"
>>223570574Who's Rachel? Is that his Canadian stalker?
>>223570616Yup.
>>223568464Details on Allison swatting brad or calling a toddler a name? Googling this comes up with nothing
>>223570733>GooglingIt's not too late uuuu, leave now.
>>223570664What does his badge say? Crest of Women?
>>223568715waiting for Lordkat
>>223570733I think you're just being disingenous with me now. Brad was away on his father in laws funeral when a wellness checked was called at Brad's and his current wife's home. Allison has denied that it was her or her fans that did it. She blamed Linkara's fans. Linkara blamed her back.She yelled at the neighbors kid because their box fan was too loud which disturbed her when she made videos. Allison was pissing off everyone in the complex she lived at including the landlord. So she moved and soon after tied the knot with Phelan iirc.
>>223567927I choose to believe he was just seething about being made to look like an effeminate idiot in the NCCU.
>>223570554I figure theoretically if anything could be arranged that the biggest hurdle would be just getting Spoony out of his cave if possible. I don't know if Brad is still in contact with him let alone Doug but I remember in one of the Snob episodes Brad stops the review for a moment after there's a shot of Spoony from the Snob film or some cameo, looks at the camera and says something like "He was a good friend and I miss him" or something like that.
>>223571001Brad and Noah went quite a way back with each other iirc. I do know for a fact that it's Spoony that vouched for Brad and brought Brad onto TGWTG in the first place.
>>223571001Isn't Spoony literally homeless right now?
>>223571068No. He lives with his brother I think.
>>223571068>>223571099That's what I remember reading from previous threads, that he's been living with his brother, dealing with depression and still getting a few bucks from patron. There used to be an anon that was able to tell how much someone was getting from there every month and Spoony was still getting something like $100 a month ago couple of years ago.
>>223571294sorry, brainfart. *$100 a month on patreon a few years ago.
>>223569611All Noah has to do is turn on the camera and ramble for an hour about d&d and the patreon-shekels will come pouring in.
>>223571001Spoony made a quick cameo at the end of a Snob video around a year ago, so I assume they still talk and are on good terms. How Brad convinced him to record himself (however brief it was) is nothing short of a miracle.
Whatever happened with the nasty cockslut?
>>223571698>around a year ago,>Aug 21, 2023
>>223571712As hilarious as it was this was still mostly just youthful indescretions on Lewis' part.
Todd in the shadows, surprised he never got discourse where he called like Arianne Grande or Sabrina Carpenter hot in the context of songs about how they are hot. survived peak trumblr neoliberal woke
>>223571712You messed up posting the image btw. It's unreadable.
>>223571890I could've sworn it was more recent than that. Time flies.
>>223568577i miss having a young woman laughing with me, wriggling in my arms, joking together, and being incredibly flirty
>>223571942It's iirc during Gamergate Todd and Lindsay broke up because what I've heard is that Dan Olson didn't think Todd was orthodox enough an anti-gamergater or something and so got Lindsay to dump him. Todd doubled down on being an SJW because of it and were among who went around and did the whole "JewWario would be anti-gamergate if he was still alive" thing.I like some of Todd's content otherwise. I even like some of Dan's stuff even though he's a big douche about many things and has done some ehem questionable things if you know what I mean.
>>223571960The 2020s are going at light speed. Or we're just old now, anon. Everything goes by faster as you age.
>>223571698I'll have to go look, I know there's a few Snob episodes I haven't watched from this year. I found the Snob movies and Jesus Bro on the internet archive a few months ago that I've been meaning to watch too but I think I forgot to bookmark them.
>>223571960>Time fliesIt feels like yesterday when Nick Rekieta was coked out on stream calling his judge a whore who leeks wisky from her pussy.
>>223571712>>223571956Okay now I can read it.wtfspooky
>>223572250It feels like yesterday when Styx was still living in the Netherlands too.It's been a wild ride.
>>223572109I like Brad but he's been on total autopilot for years.
>>223572109Found it, the cameo is the last bit of Snob's Skullduggery/Sledgehammer review.
>>223572351Maybe and paradoxically because he lives a more stable life now than back in the when he reviewed absolutely insane shit like E.T. The Porno. He's earned it. He's been through some serious shit. He can review Taco Bell lunches the rest of his life now. He paid his dues.
>>223572508It says something about A Serbian Film when that's the one he had to go out of his way to say he won't snob after he saw it.
>>223568693Spoony mindbroke this guy so bad he trooned out.
>>223569602>>223569656
>>223571916
>>223572690LordKat and Lupa broke Spoony first. What goes around comes around. They fucked up his life to begin with. Sure. Noah did some of it to himself. But Lupa and LordKat provoked him all the way. They did it for Michaud who didn't like that Spoony equalled Doug's popularity at one point btw. Doug didn't mind that. But Michaud did. This also makes Allison's participation in Change the Channel so ironic.
>>223568957MK Ultra grooming program, unironically
when can we realistically see them bury the hatchet and reunite for another three schmuckleheads review?
>>223572834Never happening. Absolute best case scenario is Brad and Douge doing a Uwe Boll movie together and maybe(but probably not) Noah making a very brief cameo. Lewis is just too far gone and did something even someone as cucked as Brad cannot forgive.
>>223572890I already posted the Ferngully bloopers but the Alone in the Dark one is another bittersweet one. https://youtu.be/gxcm5a4fj2c?si=YqfnSwgs4AHfgJEqChange the Channel was so bullshit. These people had a blast with each other at one point. Mostly before Michaud took over more and more it seems.
>>223572723kek
>>223568708Bennet gets big props from me for losing like 200lbs.
>>223572351I know what you mean, but that's true of most of these people that have been doing videos for two decades.Its zombie Simpsons but also with how youtube operates these days who knows if they get a strike, content or copyright. I know recent Snob episodes on horror films cut out the gore and most of the violence but the alternative is to become like Dead Meat where everything censored like a Japanese porn and you can't even say killed, it's "unalived". Blood is now "boo-boo juice" and die is probably "forever sleepies" or some shit.
>>223572071Everyone who remembers pre-2011 society does.
>>223572793Spoony is a stupid pathetic retard who broke himself. It has been 10+ years and he still does nothing but wallow in self pity. He is genuinely pathetic. Hes a loser. He could pick himself up any time, get some meds, quit drinking, and make a comeback.
>>223573580I said it was partly also his own fault, didn't I? But that doesn't tell the whole story. And you got pissed when I implied that, didn't you? Gee I wonder why.
>>223567535
>>223573727Your NPD kicking in.
>>223574266What an odd thing for you to say. Reeks of projection.
>>223574373Sort your faggot brain out, hon.
>>223574433Oof. Didn't take long for you to have a mentor I see. Well actually you were having a meltie from the get go.
>>223574489>mentormeltie
I miss Latza threads.
>>223574529Douge messed up when he didn't let this absolute legend join.https://youtu.be/1r1aU6n0O4E?si=l_1s1Wj7rEsxfn1w
>>223574489>>223574504The very calm and not tilted at all reaction of a very normal and well adjusted person.
>>223569838An unbelievably pathetic, mentally weak, narcissistic man
>>223574694>>223574701The very calm and not tilted at all reaction of a very normal and well adjusted person who totally doesn't have a hate boner for Spoony or anything.That is if you're not just engagement baiting. Maybe it's a bit of both.
>>223574529>>223574590Latza was special. Shame he never got on to anything, even that creep who cried at Star Wars got on an NC.
CRITICI WANT TO BE IN THIS REVIEEEW
>>223568490>>223569179I never even watched any of them. I was reallyninto AVGN and Doug (and some Cinema Snob here and there), but all these guys? I only found out about them after the catastrophe that occurredStill, every single one of the pictures posted here is giving me such damn nostalgia for these days. Long live the autistic, awkward days of 2000s Internet and YouTube
>>223572834Wouldn't that be nice? Those videos were gold...all 2 of them
>>223568490>lordfat in the back with literal stains all over his shirtI can't imagine how fucking disgusting this nigga is now that he's a tranny.
>>223569538KEKassia
>>223569538FREE MOLOSSIA
>>223574217A face that only a mother could love.
>>223574926Yes.
>>223575021https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50rTN_xTvBY
>>223567535Since we are on the TGWTG topic, did 'change the channel' ever amount to anything? Doug seems to be fine and even got some cameos on Smiling Friends, and he was at the top of the organization. What actually happened?
>>223574529what made the whole thing endearing to me is that it might have been the most honest and pure case of 4chan "tough love" ever seen, anons didn't try to bury the guy and ruin his life, but somehow the shitposting seemed to get through to him that he was wasting his time trying to be some z-list e-celebrity when he should be focusing on his real career instead. his life might not be glamorous but at least he has a fucking job compared to the losers he used to idolize
>>223574994From the river to the sea. Molossia will be free.
>>223575062>did 'change the channel' ever amount to anything?Without it those Wall video essays never happen. That's the biggest thing that came from them. Well that and Fat Grandma being missing from Christmas Cinema Snob episodes. >What actually happened?The losers were very angry that it looked like they were going to have to get jobs as it dawned on them that they had hit the peak of their popularity without ever getting that bag.
>>223575144That's exactly what makes him the fucking GOAT. The supreme irony of it all.
>>223571639Exactly. I saw an account making 10k a month just designing character sheets and writing backstories and plot tie-ins. Spoony could easily do that with little effort.
>>223575062What I think (and I'm wrapping myself in tinfoilf here mind you) is that Lupa and Holly started the whole Change the Channel thing as kayfabe to burn bridges between the ex contributors and Doug/Brad and trim those who still remained on the site right up until CtC hit like Linkara, Joe and Todd off to so that Michaud could insulate Doug and Brad easier. Michaud's grudge against especially Lindsay goes way back it seems. Michaud didn't take over the site entirely until 2010. He started bringing his own clique on. Lupa, Holly, LordKat, Nash, Apollo etc. were all Michaud's clique. That's the mindfuck of it.So what I think is that Change the Channel was a trap by Lupa and Holly that roped some like Linkara and Lindsay expecting it to take down Michaud but all it accomplished was just break friendships and relationships apart.You should also take note of those who did not participate in the drama. Spoony stayed out of it. Rachel Tietz stayed out of it. For two examples.
>>223575352So he just wanted to clean house and gain even more influence?
>>223568234>Mr Popper's Penguins"That is where you get laid."A shame what happened between Brad and Angry Jake. Literally, a woman came between them.
>>223575493Jake was always going to be a problem. Brad should have booted him before it went as far as it did.
>>223569838>could not lastThere is always hope
>>223572890>did somethingwtf did the lamp reviewer do?
>>223575565He gave Salo a bad review.
>>223575532Truish...they were all deeply libertarian. Brad was never going to turn on Jake unless he did something especially dirtbagish to him, specifically... then Jake fucked the polyslut Brad was 'engaged' to.
I've been watching the nostalgia critic since like 2008 and the only affiliate I ever watched was the Cinema Snob and in hindsight that was probably for the best
>>223575463Maybe. I said I wrapped myself in tinfoil here. So don't take my word. I've been spouting a lot of stuff regarding this TGWTG rabbit hole on the board this year. Stuff I'm not entirely convinced is true all the time. Some of it I don't want to mention ever again because it's giving a heavy conscious now. So don't ask.What I can tell is that Lupa and Holly were ironically enough part of Michaud's clique and brought on by him in 2010 to begin with. Michaud was himself not the highest honcho yet the first two years 2008-2010. It's Bargo (the heart guy in NC:s Captain Planet review) that brought Michaud on. Ironically Bargo was later terminated from the site by Michaud in 2011 for reasons that's still up in the air and a mystery. Allthough my flimsy sources has an account of it that I've peddeled before but won't get into now because again it might just be bullshit in the end and I feel bad for it now. Bargo and a guy by the name of Jason Laws had more dictation than Michaud did at the start. Michaud and Lindsay reportedly started hating each other fast. Michaud supposedly didn't like that Lindsay supposedly had perks as part of a clause in a contract (again this might be bullshit I should stress) and didn't like that she supposedly Doug's ear a lot back then. I've started to figure Doug and Lindsay were just very good friends that helped each other out a lot and perhaps not something else as I've peddeled before and feel like I shouldn't peddle anymore ever again. But anyway Michaud supposedly wanted to fire Lindsay several times over the years but couldn't. She left on her own terms in 2015. Not because of Gamergate as she later claimed. But because Blip was shutting down.
>>223575660No AVGN or Spoony? You're missing out, man
I AM RAS AL GHULAND I AM HERE TO SAY
>>223575676Lupa was on reviewtopia before TGWTG I should add. It's Michaud, LordKat and Phelan (who wasn't even her boyfriend yet but already simping for her hard) that vouched for her.
>>223576021WE'RE NOT DOING THE SUPERVILLAIN SHUFFLE!
>>223576021>>223576094Based Brad did a great spoof of Demo Reel.Can't find it right now though.
>>223576094I AM DOCTOR CRANETOTALLY INSANEand I have no lines in the movie, so next
does doug still have his slave?
>>223576119Wait nvm found it. It's unlisted. That's why it was difficult finding it.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SWZR2YRTJU4
>>223575768AVGN yes but I don't really consider him to be an offshoot or a channel awesome type. I honestly only know Spoony from people making fun of him
>>223568577Fuck that is sad. Why did Nostalgia Chick become so bitter anyway? A lot of people made cringey videos in the past and don't have a chip on their shoulder over it. Frankly cringe was the dominant style back then, it's just what you had to do to get views. Even Pewdiepie and Markeplier started out that way. You'd think she had a DSP style century of humiliation the way she acts.
>>223576808idk.someone drew a vore comic of her being eaten by the channel awesome black girl.probably has nothing to do with anything but it was around.
>>223576808she has some kind of dark history with movie blob that embittered her terribly, we'll likely never know the full story.
