Is Porn art? Or are there any porn flicks you would consider art? Not a goonbait thread, genuine question.
Lot of early BLACKED works are works of art. The contrast and lighting were amazing.
>>223585236earliest art is literally just porn so yes
>>223585236There's movies like Behind the Green Door that tried to be artistic. It was a movement in the 70s to upgrade porn into "erotica" with plots and decent cinematography, but the advent of video sort of destroyed that dream as depicted in Boogie Nights and HBO's The Deuce. The movie Robert DeNiro takes his date to in Taxi Driver can be considered part of that genre too.
>>223585308why isn’t The Deuce as talked about as The Wire?
>>223585254good morning saar
>>223585330I don't know. Maybe because it's a period piece?
>>223585236hahaha hay yo homie, who dat white bitch?Hook a brotha up.
>>223585254They’re calling it the most jewish and it’s of all time.
>>223585236The art part is when the lady can mimic the feelings you want when fucking
>>223585236Through the Looking Glass
>>223585254It's true. Greg Lansky should have converted from Porn Judaism to Hollywood Judaism and gave us some big screen kinos.
It can have artistic merits or some particular form of it could be artistic, like the blacked thing anon pointed outBut no, as a whole, porn is not artKinda like how you can paint your car a certain way, it could be top tier painting and the best in the world and a real piece of art on it's own, but that doesn't make "racing", artPorn is just sex you can't experience but that you can buy
>>223585236Porn is porn, not art. It has its purpose but it's not art. There are ways to use the nude female form that I'd consider tastefully done, which can be considered art.
>>223585236I put this on and started stroking but it never showed anything good.Happened to me with Kinsey too.
porn in the 2010s was GOATed
>>223585254Many are saying this.
>>223585236Is all writing literature? Are brochures?I think pr0n can be done tastefully and be sexy but would I consider it art? No.
>>223587276Remember the early 2000s when pr0n was leaning into physical 'abuse'? Slapping, choking, hitting.Then the trend died and the incest and cuck shit started replaced it.
>>223585236hypothetical: imagine a film you would consider a work of art, and then somewhere in the film you add a sex scene/bj scene, fingering whatever, 5mins tops, maybe make it one whole continuous take to make it more artsy, etc. is that film still a work of art like before? and if so, how many more explicit sex scenes can you weave in before it stops being a work of art?
>>223585236
>>223585236Bukkake JAV like everyday bukkake have amazing cinemtagrophy. Opening shots, dramatic background blues, use of light and colour to create a hyper reality. But I like the old JAVs that where just shot in a dark room with a light on the girl as she took loads to the face and pissed her panties. True kino. Too bad I don't remember the name of the studio who did it. Nowadays you have cheap imitators like spermmania but it never hits that 2000s level of depravity. Any anons remember these kinos? Pic not related but also related.
>>223585236There are some xxx parodies that i likeLike the that 70s show parody, i'd consider it art sure
>>223585236Yes, it can be beautiful, thought provoking, creative and arousing. It typically follows a plot and is still protected under free speech despite all the attempts to censor it.
>>223585236anyone knows the name of this broad?
>>223585254This, however, is not art. At least not good art.
>>223585236an absolute gorgeous woman, being defiled with blacks, trannies, piss, puke, shit, dogfucking, etc is art and kinotattooed drugged up whores fucking and doing all of the above? trash
>>223588314hope solo. she has nudes.
A lot of old porn was. these days it's just bleh
>>223588890obviously not her
Everything is art. It’s up to you if you engage with it on that level.
>>223585236Meme Lover is genuinely art
>>223588980This anon gets it. "art" status isn't come kind of compliment. A kid scribbling on paper is art.
>>223585254fucking based
>>22358525490s Italian porn is artThe rest? Nah
>>223587343>Remember the early 2000s when pr0nyou definitely don't remember the 2000s you self-censoring zoomoid cuck.
>>223585236No, and it can't ever be. No matter how tremendous the artistic talent involved, smut is smut.
>>223585308>The movie Robert DeNiro takes his date to in Taxi Driver can be considered part of that genre too.No anon. He took her to an actual porn theater. Things like behind the green door, or deep throat were notable because they were shown in regular theaters. Those aren't the kind of theaters that (old) times square had. You'd go down to 42nd street to get drugs, hookers, or mugged while trying to do one of the other two.
>>223585258> earliest art is literally just porn so yesNudity isn’t porn you dumb shit.
way too many people with porn addictionsseek help
>>223589434That anon doesn't know what he's talking about, but broken clocks. The earliest cave paintings depicted man hunting, killing, and fucking animals, and then a hybrid spirit rising from the union.
>>223585236Porn is like propaganda. It's entirely instrumental. A menas to an end. It can USE art towards those ends, but the art isn't the point.
>>223589531Yeah that’s been around forever just talking about nudity in art. Like bible thumpers that inspired the Simpson episode with them calling the statue of David pornographic
>>223589219>projecting retard has a temper tantrumMy porn folder has been called "pr0n" since 2006 you spastic. We used to think throwing random l33tsp34k into things was cool.
>>223589567Is all porn just homosexual propaganda? Even watching lesbian or solo female porn could bring about autogynephilia
I remember those wannabe arty Chris Kramski movies, pretty good stuff overall. >>223589210For me, it's Rock n' Roll Rocco
>>223589210I discovered this genre while high on Crack around the time of the pandemic and had many horrible amazing goon sessions. I miss it desu
>>223585236Maybe. There were a lot of attempts at artistic porn in the '70s, and more sporadically since then. Some of the softcore ones, like Emmanuelle, arguably succeeded more than most of the hardcore ones. There have also been a number of highly artistic and ostensibly mainstream movies with graphic depictions of unsimulated sex, like Ai no Corrida (In the Realm of the Senses) and several of the works of Catherine Breillat, Larry Clark, Lars von Trier, and Gaspar Noe, which some people would consider pornographic.
>>223585236Nothing is art. Everything is art. Anyone who talks about art should be launched into a volcano
>>223585254Whoever does the hair and makeup is pretty talented. You look at some of those girls on other scenes and they often look beat.
>Is Porn art?I can bust within 30 seconds of a Miss Missa X or Sydney Harwin video so you tell me
>>223589528Trying to satisfy a natural biological sex drive isn't an addiction
for me it's TheLifeErotic
>tfw no films with erotic scenesI miss titillating and teasing flicks
>>223589977you definitely watch too much porn
>>223585236I can't think of a reason why porn wouldn't be art
>>223587276I wish it was more high definition though. Maybe in the future AI will be able to sharpen it up.
In the '70s there were even some porno musicals. Pic related was basically softcore (despite being marketed as X-rated, the general release version eventually landed an R rating), but a XXX version was released later. Kristine DeBell went on to have to do mainstream stuff. The following year there was a similarly racy musical adaptation of Cinderella featuring Cheryl "Rainbaux" Smith. That one was strictly softcore, and like Alice in Wonderland, it was originally rated X (self-applied) and later given an R by the MPAA.Bill Osco, who produced Alice in Wonderland, had previously produced the sci-fi parody Flesh Gordon, which had originally been shot as a hardcore porno, but the hardcore footage wasn't included in the finished film due to legal issues. That footage was turned over to the L.A. police vice squad and apparently destroyed. The film was ultimately released in X-rated and R-rated versions, but the XXX version never saw the light of day.
>>223585236Some movies make you feel happy. Some movies make you feel sad. Some movies make you feel scared. Some movies make you feel nervous. Some movies make you feel angry. Why shouldn't movies make you feel horny and a little ashamed? They communicate an idea, and required some level of creativity. It's art. Sure, a lot of them are unambitious and crummy, but so is a lot of art, and so are a lot of non-porn movies.
>>223587300There's a photographer Jonathan Leder whose nudes of EmRata in her early 20s qualify as art
>>223585236I remember watching on a free site (Youporn maybe?) a professional porn about two newlyweds I think, around 15 or more years ago. It had a sort of vintage look, like it could have been shot in the 80s. What really impressed me is that the man and the woman looked like they were really in love all through the video, it was beautiful to see. I guess it was art because it made me feel elevated feelings.
>>223590519Horny isn’t an emotion it’s a biological response. Porn is on the same level as a fast food commercial designed to make you feel hungry.
>>223591605All emotions are a biological response.
>>223591255cuck
There were the "auteur" types like Thomas Zupko and Michael Raven who made artsy, plot-heavy pornos in-between gonzo gigs.
>>223590797Lots of fashion models (which is basically what she was at the time) have posed for artsy nudes like that, but they're not usually considered porn.
>>223585236Everything is art. Because the word art has no meaning.
>>223590457That movie is legit. Need more pornos of that quality
>>223585236>Is Porn art?There comes a point where you get too horny to appreciate art, and no actual piece of art needs double penetration and bukkake.
>>223592483The closest to a definition of "art" would be something that people find valuable. In this sense, money is art. Let us whittle this down further. Something that is one-of-a-kind, irreproducible, unforgeable, that certain people with power and resources covet. This reduces the entire area of art to nothing more than what is stylish or fashionable. Going further, style and fashion are ephemeral. Such preferences change with the seasons. Art, by contrast, is timeless. At the end of the day, most art is just an asset that appreciates in value over time. As such, there is no such thing as pure art.
>>223585236Yes it is. Porn developed my soul.
>>223589434Sure is. You don't go all ham on channeling your creative juice to make big booba nudes if you're asexual.
>>223588419Uh yes. You can do a mosaic of any scene from Blacked and it'd fit right in any Catholic church. The agony and the ecstasy, you know? Can't walk the path of redemption and earn God's good graces without sinning bigly, et cetera
>>223585236The most art porn is all in vidya
>>223592622I'm pretty sure I will be watching porn on my deathbed. My uncle, who was responsible for the development of the nation-wide cell phone first alert system, still watches porn on his ipad at the age of 82. Don't ask me how I know that.
>>223592711I was baited into an AI porn site, based on their advertising. I'm sure it will look like the ad one day. But the real deal looks nothing like it right now. Can't wait.
>>223585236Is it trying to communicate something? A message or an idea? Is it trying to elicit an emotional reaction in the viewer?Then it is art.
>>223592004Careful with that edge, kid.
>>223585236Porn can be low art but never high art. Porn can also be artistic. But this is rare as well.
>>223585236Yes, some porn can be art, not all of it maybe and yeah even if this>>223585254 is the most bait post of all time Blacked can be considered art, it's a disgusting form of art but hey, a lot of people hate some bands/music and it doesn't mean it's not art.Blue is the Warmest Colour is art, and it's literally porn because Lea and Adelle 100% fucked and i don't care what they say, there is no way to fake the shit they did with props
>>223585258>brainlet thinks those are porn
>>223592710>Can't walk the path of redemption and earn God's good graces without sinning bigly, et ceteraThat's...not sound Catholic theology at all.
>>223585236Porn is art when the woman is artApolonia Lapiedra has a really nice asshole
>>223585861Christ. How mind broken and porn brained do you have to be to know the name of the... director? I'm assuming, of a porn video? I thought I was a degenerate gooner but I've never been actually watches the AVNs? I'm not even someone who gets all in butthurt seeing black men in porn but you're genuinely subcontinental retarded if you think that BLACKED is "art"
>>223585236yes, full stopand yes much of it is bad, 99% of anything is always shit, bad art is still art
>>223585236Pornography with good cinematography exists, but it's still cumbrain slop just like capeshit manchild slop.
>>223585254Blacked weirds me out but the makeup, clothing and lighting is really good. Every other porn seems to have this white strong as shit overhead lighting
I don't know about pornographic movies, but some photosets (especially outdoor ones) from the 2000s and earlier are absolutely gorgeous and were obviously shot with high quality cameras and film.
>>223587276yep. 2007-2017
The fact you gooners haven't brought up the movie>Piratesis insane to me. That is easily the funniest fucking porn movie I've ever seen. I didn't even care about the sex parts 10mins into the movie with house hilarious it was.
>>223592710jesse wtf are you talking about?
>>223585236Porn is more art than regular theatre, because it is limited by fewer taboos.
>>223589219>>223589645seriously lol, what kind of newfag is accusing others of being zoomoids because they think pr0n is the same as "corn" or "grape" or "pdf" or "unalive" or whatever
>>223588890if you flip back and forth between her axe wound pictures it winks at you
>>223585236Fuck My Tight Teen Butthole 17 has incredible lightning. Some compare it to Barry Lyndon.
>>223593515he's particularly famous because there's a noticeable drop in "quality" when they put a woman in chargeand if you think the appeal of blacked among people who aren't cucks or indians or whatever doesn't have anything to do with how well it's presented you're just being obtuse. even if you've only seen the memes you know the blacked clean as hell set design, the least gross looking nigs possible, and the prettiest white girls possible (this right when massive strides in camera quality were being made) were lightning in a bottle when that shit blew up.
>>223585254BLACKED created a genre by themselfs, and deserves to be called ART
>>223585254this
>>223585254Holy FPBP
>>223594227>BLACKED created a genre by themselfsBMWF Interracial was a thing LONG before BLACKED. It was Dogfart's bread and butter in the '00s, and in fact it was already a thing going back to '70s, having been featured prominently in Behind the Green Door (Alice in Wonderland also teased it, then stops short of sex). Nor is BLACKED really anything new stylistically. They're basically doing the same thing X-Art was doing for years previously, only worse.
>>223594510When a BNWO elder speaks I listen and learn. Thanks anon.
>>223589219You deservedly got BTFO for this one.
>>223588890this will never catch onand neither will "keyed and locked"
>>223585258>cavemen furiously masturbated to this
>>223594187Again, how porn obsessed are you to have seen so many blacked videos that you know who directed what? Or that you can tell any difference between them? Have I seen a blacked scene or 2? Yeah but the last thing on my mind watching any video is, "ugh this cinematography is garbage?! Who directed this?" I've found a video that I thought looked good and a few minutes in realize that it's not good. I just back out and select a different video? I don't go looking into who directs it? Also I've always hated the polished overly acted professional porn shoots. Genuine homemade is always gonna be more erotic to me.
>>223594524Not a BNWO elder, just a gooner elder. It was actually (and annoyingly) a much more prevalent thing before BLACKED. IAFD used to even have a tag for interracial until 2020, but then the woke crowd decided it was problematic because people could use it to filter out IR scenes from their search results, and also because it could be used to easily figure out which actresses hadn't done IR.
>>223594524jej>>223594610i wonder what they did call "hotgluing" back in the ancient times
bros im done with porn! finally after all these years....I didn't quit, I just finished all of it.
>>223594637This board has become a haven for discord trannies and cucks for some reason. Even jannies here are actual trannies heavily invested in blacked porn. They keep the Hunter schaefer sweeney, etc. threads spammed here daily. Why they won’t stay on /gif/? I don’t have the answer
>>223593515It's board culture
>>223589219idiot
I haven't masturbated for almost a year, AMA reddit.
>>223594706how old are you and did you have wet dreams?
>>223594510>Alice in Wonderland also teased itBest song in the film and the hottest actress, sad!>what's a nice girl like you doing, on a knight like me?I love that film, genuinely better than the Burton garbage.
>>223594706I did no fap once. then I finally did and it came out yellow.
>>223594721Started when I was 27, I've had three wet dreams since I started.>>223594725Interesting, did you clean your cock?
there is only one artist left still making true kino
>>223594758yeah. just dead sperm from not fapping. happened to another anon I remember too when he finally got laid and nutted on her stomach
>>223594784>when he finally got laidGood thing that's never going to happen.How yellow are we talking here?
>>223594805eh just the nut part of it. you know how you can see the sperm more in the middle. just looks like some urine is mixed with it
>>223585236The scenario for porn matters the most to me. I love the situations where it's a 'random' guy being picked up by a woman as opposed to a random girl or just standard scene.Wish they did more of this in general, it's not super common.
>>223585254kek
>>223594722Kristine DeBell could have been a legend if she'd done more porn, IMO. Her mainstream career never really went anywhere after Meatballs, and she spent years denying that she'd actually performed any real sex acts as Alice. Only after the XXX version got wide circulation on the internet did she finally acknowledge that she'd done some "naughty things," in it.
>>223594637there were two blacked directors ever and i wouldn't know there was a difference between Lansky and the new stuff if it wasn't for casually browsing this board
>>223594510i can't watch anything by a brand named dogfart no matter how many boomers tell me it was better
>>223588890post it.
>>223594964>>223594637and we can agree to disagree on the overly polished production vs amateur. i like the overly produced stuff for porn. it looks nice and if i want something trashy and real i'll go to the bar and find someone
>>223594989You're not missing much. Regardless of how you feel about IR, it's all cheaply-made gonzo shit, anyway.
gooners are addicts in denial
>>223585254uhhh... based?
>>223585254Based BLACKED enjoyer
>>223585236No
>>223589528but enough about women
>>223585236i think of it more like a sport.
Not art but some of it is certainly creative. I don’t normally like implants but i really like some of Safira Yakkuza’s work because she made herself into this fuckdoll but in a lot of the more extreme stuff she is apprehensive and not into it. Seeing her getting double anal fucked while she’s kneeling in a literal basin of piss while a guy pisses in her face is so batshit crazy but it works. Makes the Marquis de Sade look like a little bitch. Or guy after guy filling her ass with piss so she farts it into the basin and drinks it is wild. See all of Sasha Paige’s dap piss scenes. In one the guy is holding her while a bunch of huge cocked dudes piss on her busted asshole with a bowl underneath and she dumps it on her face after. Incredible.
>>223585258How is it possible to get this fat eating meat, nuts, and berries?
>>223594653it's called a tribute>>223594678I have a backlog I've been trying to find time for for 8 years and it's just keeps growing...
>>223594683organic traffic slowed to a crawl and then they open the internet to india and everything has been SHIT since
>>223595858by being in an environment that allowed it
>>223595879The only good websites in 2026:v4c.funX after blocking fypslop
>>223585254This is a kike conspiracy to push miscegenation. Blacked has high production standards, women in tasteful lingerie, makeup, etc. White porn? MUH STEP MOM/SISTER! MUH KEK! You don't hate jews enough.
>>223594683They're genuine indians. The ai celeb threads on /gif/ were swarmed with black dick shit for weeks and yesterday someone started making the same scenes with a live action version of picture related to counter it and the threads are suddenly not allowed anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RmGu5mHCkc
>>223585236A set of socio cultural circumstances, and the start of a (naive) period of such works qualify this as art, free of cynicism:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_in_the_Sand
>>223588314>>223588890
I hate this recent trend of fake creampies, where in the middle of the scene the guy fakes orgasm, they cut and put fake cum in the girl. Then after a few seconds they say "Oh wow it's still hard!" and fuck again until it ends in a typical facialFucking hacks contaminating the creampie tag
>>223585254
>>223596550sounds like some mainstream shit
>>223596550who the fuck does that
>>223585258this is not porn. this is the divine eros, which is the opposite of pornography.
Some mommies like Sydney Harwin or Bettie Bondage shoot hour long kinos that qualify as short films
>>223596550For me? It's dudes getting rimmed. I don't for a second believe guys watching at home want to jerk it to some dude getting his hairy ass licked. The fact every scene has it now is insane. The only time it's acceptable is in trans porn and it's exclusively the transgirl receiving.
>>223585529He's not wrong BLACKED is Citizen Kane with regard to camerawork compared to most pornos
>>223585236>are there any porn flicks you would consider art?Cafe Flesh
>>223594637anyone can look up an IMDB page anonkun
>>223597107It's because the pollutants in the water supply are artificially enlarging men's prostates, causing men have more of a desire for anal stimulation
>>223587343Five or six years ago normie sites like Brazzers were getting wild with girls getting choked out in vanilla scenes, I think they toned it down after a few deaths and brain damaging happened from people doing it to their GFs
>>223589936Some porno sites like Adult Time try to be cinematic and have like 15 or 20 minutes of build up before the fucking
>>223597167>>223589965>15-20 minute buildupMissaX does this too. I actually like it because sometimes the context makes the scene hotter. Most of the time the acting isn't good though, so I just let it play in the background while I do other things
>>223589219lmao retard
>>223597248Angela White when she gets the pretend to be a real actress for 10 minutes instead of a set of holes
>>223594706I stopped fapping because I fell in love. Porn is upsetting to me now. I suppose if I get disillusioned with love again, then I'll start fapping again.
>>223585254This is true unfortunately
>>223597273Is she in love with you?I stopped fapping because it got too depressing. Towards the end I wasn't even fapping to porn, I was fapping to imagining myself actually dating a girl (something that won't ever happen to me).
Reminder that if you're white and consume porn then you're complicit with Jewish attempts to destroy white society and therefore a traitor and should be treated accordingly.
Sometimes I like a video so much that I try to find the best version of it, highest resolution, lossless, etc. Pornolab or Naughtyblog (anything that have full siterips) usually have these versions. I'm aware that private trackers have it much easier but I missed out on the Empornium invite and I never cared enough to maintain seed ratio etc anyway. For other vids I still try to find the 1080p version, but HEVC encoded or similar for minimum size (PornRips is good for this).
>>223585236Absolutely. Some poor eighteen year old getting promised stardom and then anally ruptured and infected with every STD by muscular men for a bag of dope reveals societys darkness better than footage of war. Some fourteen year old masturbating to said content on the other side of the world kinda elevates the piece. Also, mindfreak or whatever the company supplying 90% of worlds porn getting hundreds of videos daily of twentysomethings fucking mindlessly and without emotion is art itself.
>>223597104>Bettie Bondage
>>223593748It's when they started to go to shit actually. Digital ruined even porn. Compare Penthouse from 1980s to Penthouse from 2000s.
>>223597104Sydney Harwin is disgusting.Half her videos are just>IM YE DAWTERS FRIEND>DO YA HAV YA CHILD SEX LIOCENSE>OI GOVNA PLEASE GIVE ME A GOOD PICKLING
>>223597623>>223597623She normally skips the friend part, yeah her ghetto accent can be annoying.SashaCurves sounds like she has read a book once in her life and has better tits and ass and is still a brit bong
The Marlyil Streep of kino
>>223597395truthnuke
>>223594187>porn was lightning in a bottleBro, anything with hot naked girls sells.
>>223585236art can be porn, but porn isn't art
>>223597357She isn't, but when I realized the connection between my hoping for love and my lack of desire to use porn, I decided I would rather suffer and face what I truly want than escape and be content. At least the pain is real.
>>223597104Was looking for porn not a horror movie
