God's Don't Give Gifts will be the first entirely AI movie released in cinemashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G5LArU7tmEThoughts?
Gay.
>>223604080I’m not sure if AI will ever be able to capture the feel of human-made entertainment. While technically decent this still has that slop veneer that pretty much all AI content has. AI’s inability to make real art is literally the best available proof that we have souls
>>223604080Where is Grok's first feature length movie Mr Musk?
>>223604080I thought there were other AI movies in theaters already? Anyhow, I don't like gossip goblins stuff, but I hope he does well. Hollywood needs to be buckbroken.
it doesn't look like it'll be worse than anything else that's out right now
>no niggersCinema ia saved
Grizzly Bears on Meth was pretty kino but that's the only AI movie I've seen even if that was more a demo than a movie. It is only a matter of time before AI movies are more common than Hollywood slop.
>>223604210>AI’s inability to make real artDefine "real art"
>>223604210>I’m not sure if AI will ever be able to capture the feel of human-made entertainment.pretty sure it will at some pointnot ALL human-made movies, mind you, but a lot if not mostthat said, the trailer in OP isn't that>create a movie with the main idea of unlimited realities using AI (something that is good at mimicking A LOT of different visuals>every single one has the same look and style, same 'camera', lighting, mood, etc.wew
>>223604348Ermm did you look at the art cover in OP?
>>223604080Now that we have AI anyone can use we need to keep our industry uniqueness by telling the computer to make it as ugly as possible
>>223604080I like the settings and ideas, but the animations just feels off. Even claymation has more soul. Even Toy story that was made over 20 years ago had soul. This just feels meh
>>223604210AI is a tool. A tool is only as useful as the hand that wields.it .Saying "AI can't make art" is like saying "A paintbrush can't make art."The entire premise of your assumptions are incorrect.
>>223604964Claymation has a lot more soul than 3D animation, man-made or otherwise
>>223604080Looking forward to it. Just because it is an interesting part of cinema history
>>223604230He's making it with your mom right now
>>223604964>Even claymation has more soulWhat do you mean "even"? It is arguably the most soulful form of animation
>>223604080Retards will be amazed by it, because they don't view art as anything more than exciting lights and sounds.
>>223605014Ahh yes years of practice the art of moving a painbrush and getting proportions, depth and colors right is the same as typing on your keyboard ''Hey AI give me a scene with exploding car'' OMG THAT LOOKS SO COOL I'M AN ARTIST!
>>223605014A paintbrush can’t do anything to influence the content of a work of art without human intervention the way AI can. Your analogy is faulty.
>>223604080I think it would be cool if they developed a way for you to have a more direct hand in controlling shots, timing. Everyone hates the idea of AI films because you really have no control over it. It's just typing prompts. It sucks that it's destroying the idea of giving normal people powerful tools to make things just because "its not le art"
>>223605110You are just providing an example of an unskilled artist using a tool badly and proving my point
>>223605014>Saying "AI can't make art" is like saying "A paintbrush can't make art."No it isnt. Thats the point. The AI doesnt really need the human to produce its slop
>>223605116My analogy is not faulty. Go use AI to make the trailer in the OP made and you will see that you will not be able to because you don't have his skill as an artist.
>>223605123You generate still images, inpaint them to your satisfaction, and use those images as key frames.
>>223605160Of course it does. Look at the trailer in the OP. It is measurably a skilled usage of the tool. You are provably wrong.>slopAh ok so you just another low IQ luddite
I might actually want to see this if the guy who made it wasn't such a complete faggot seething in this thread.
>>223605123Someone could use very basic 3d models to sketch out the choreography for the scene, and then the AI could transpose characters and backgrounds onto that.
>>223605123you are describing tools that already exist, the problem is more that people are stupid and don't know shit about how AI works
Is this really just a compilation of shit on his YouTube? I recognize some of the clips here.
>>223605223I mean generally. No, it doesnt really need your shitty inputs, even if you think you are a "prompt smith" or "AI artist". Any other AI can do that. And yes it is slop, retard.
>>223604080I guess it could be cool.I assume the ticket price will be lower as less humans were involded, right?
>>223605014Not like youve ever picked up a paint brush mr waxes philosophically about the nature of art
>>223605435Well then prove it. Go and make something that is on par with this AI short movie:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_glVBsCNbMUYou will find out that you can't do it because AI is just a tool and the output is dependent on how skilled the artist is at using the tool. If I'm wrong, it is easy for you to prove it right now.
>>223605145You like bad art making you the biggest threat to a good society. In a just world you would be put down as a degenerate dog to save the rest of us
>>223605504Define good art and bad art>Here is an example of what society currently defines as "good art"But again, your premise is detached from reality because you seem to believe that the quality of art can be defined by the tool that was used to create it. Which is not correct
>>223605500And who is going to decide which slop is less slobby? Anon, the only artist with shit like this is the editor who stringed together all the short clips the computer shat out.
>>223605110The only people who will be able to use AI effectively to make good art in the first place are those people who spent years moving a painbrush and getting proportions, depth and colors right.In this day and age taste will become more important than ability, but you can't acquire taste without acquiring the ability to make something tasteful.
>>223604080i knew it was ai just by looking at the subtitle fontit loves that shit
>>223605578Whether or not art is beautiful is decided by the person who is viewing it, not based on which tool the artist used to create it.But again, I have given you the opportunity to prove me wrong. Go and make an AI short movie that is that quality if you think anyone can do it and its not based on artistic talent
>>223605058DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
>>223604372Seconded for Grizzly Bears being kino.
>>223605444>I assume the ticket price will be lower as less humans were involded, right?
>>223605837Have you never heard of supply and demand?
>>223605996which part of supply and demand resulted in it costing less for the movie theater to show the movie?
>>223605996Yes. It was what our economy was based on in the early 1800s
>>223605996Have you ever seen a cinema that prices it's tickets relative to the production cost of the individual movie?
>>223606021Movie theaters usually do revenue splits, so it doesn't necessarily cost any less to show a lower budget movie.
>>223606156that's what i'm saying
>>223606135My bad, I misinterpreted, my post should have been directed at >>223605444
>>223604080This looks far better than 99% of films from the past 10 years
Probably has better dialogue than any Nolan flick
>>223605110>Ahh yes years of practice the art of playing instruments and getting proportions, depth and sounds right is the same as typing on your keyboard ''Hey computer give me an instrument sound with reverberation'' OMG THAT SOUNDS SO COOL I'M AN ARTIST!
>>223606179Uh no sweetie... You see that was made with AI. Therefore, it is slop and bad. I have your reported your post to the moderators for doing a heckin wrongthink.
>>223604466Banana taped to a wall
>>223605110it's not the same, but they share similiarities
>>223606171My bad, I misinterpreted, my post should have been directed at >>223604348
>>223604466>Define "real art"
>>223606179stfu jeet
>>223604080AI movies suck because they simply can't make an actual plot, they all feel like what people watch on YouTube shorts.i.e. 10-15 second segments of movies, that look engaging.Stitching ~120 (30 mins) such segments will never create an engaging, or even entertaining, movie.
>>223607237You literally have no idea how AI technology works and what you said makes no sense
>>223607237i bet that hasn't been true for several years
>>223605014Just look at that slop.>>223604466Definition: use your eyes bro
>>223606560Piss Christ looks much better than the slop that looks like it belongs on a dollar store card.
>>223607279>>223607274lol. If you had an actual case you would have made it instead of just seething.I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm saying we're not there yet.
>>223607366i don't watch ai movies, so i don't have any examples for you, i'm just betting that you're wrong and have been out of date for several years
>>223604080Holy grain overlay Batman!Seriously though, making half-decent trailers isn't impressive anymore. The impressive thing is whether or not it can tell its story through scenes that are coherent, engaging and not janky.This trailer doesn't provide any evidence of that
>>223607366>"hurr duurrr up is down and black is white">no it isn't>"hurr durr make a proper case."
>>223607481A fair point. The trailer (and likely film) appear to be more of a proof of concept of the technology. Although I haven't seen the movie so I can't be sure. I'd like to see one written and directed by a talented film maker rather than a nerd who is talented at making AI videos
SAAAAAAAR AI MAKE THE GOOD MOVIE MUCH BETTER THEN HOLLYWOODhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PSIzpFQoj4
>>223607500Once again, if my argument was so asinine why can't you simply refute it by showing it for what it is.
>>223604080>released in cinemasoutside of India?
>>223605558I remember seeing this shit at the Harvard art museum
>>223605558
>>223606560Removed from the pretentious context, and the fact that is soaked in piss, that is a nice photo illustration of the crucifixtion.Even as a Christian, I can even factor in the piss take (literally), and say it shows how Christ and His followers wete mocked and tortured by those in this fallen defiled world.
>>223607763What's the average shot length in a contemporary movie?
>>223607922Great parody of the sophism used by modern "artists" to trick people into thinking their literal garbage is art.It's almost like modern "art" is about making something as bad as possible and then using so many convoluted weasel words that people will be afraid to say they don't like it out of fear of not being seen as sophisticated.
>>223607359What if I told you that angel picture was a real painting and you just got tricked?
>>223607922Here's the real question that gets overlooked by midwits.Why is using a machine to record a physical real world object "art"......but using a machine to synthesize images not "art"?
>>223605558>>223607859Stuff like this is mostly meta art, intending to make the viewer question if even counts as art.
>>223605660There is zero artistic talent in AI slop, dumb redditfaggot
>>223605444Thats not how that works
>>223608097AI is a tool. Like a paintbrush. Or a chisel. Art is not defined by the tool used to create it, but rather on the merits of its beauty. A tool is only as useful as the artist is skilled at wielding it.
>>223606560Left is objectively better
>>223607988Have you seen movies lately? very short
>>223607881The guy is seething, but he doesnt understand art. His dragon might me ok workmanship, but it is unfinished and boring
>>223608218as opposed to the statue of a guy sucking his own dick, which is finished and boring
>>223608149>>223605160fuck off clanker
>>223608233yeah, but its less boring
>>223608277do you really enjoy seeing men fellate themselves or something
>>223607881If they used AI, those sculptures would have been better
>>223608182>Stitching ~120 (30 mins) such segments will never create an engaging, or even entertaining, movie.So is this claim valid or asinine?
>>223608292>hurr durryou are a boring midwit
>>223604080Why would I pay for slop? Why should I expose myself to it even if it's free? It's just audio-visual spam.
>>223608157In what way is it objectively better?
>>223608391you're dodging the question. do you like seeing men suck themselves off? is that what makes it interesting to you? if not, what the fuck are you talking about it's "less boring"? the only way that's true is if you find something intrinsically interesting about the sight of a man's penis stuck inside his own mouth
>>223608233and looks even more unfinished, with it being all rough and lacking detail. he couldn't even bother giving the guy some toes.
>>223608378
>>223608436i take this to mean you believe his claim is asinine
>>223608378Time will tell how good these movies will be. AI shit works for short clips, but I honestly cant imagine a movie being engaging, no
>>223605014The skill floor and skill ceiling of art made with a paintbrush are as far apart as can beThe skill floor and skill ceiling for AI are an inch apart. No matter what you make with it, a retarded pakistani child can match your quality with very little effortIt's literally just typing words into a text box bruh
>>223608450that's because you don't know how ai tools work
>>223608462>It's literally just typing words into a text box bruh
>>223608417Yes anon, I am gay. You already tried to make your low iq comeback and it didnt work, so your retard brain decided to just repeat it. Good job
>>223604080too kitsch i watched the one about the aristocrat that turned himself into a flyeven rick and morty comes up with better plots
>>223608450I hate those two. My guess is this will be embraced by India and other third world countries since they have no artistic sensibility or taste. Basically AI filtered the entire movie industry into worthless slop and I think it's time to move on.
>>223608400
>>223608494wow, that's even more pathetic. your entire artistic worldview is controlled by your dick
>>223608471Nobody really knows
>>223608520no, lots of people know, you are genuinely just ignorant
>>223608512>triples downboring midwit
>>223608544boring homosexual
>>223608505Nobody likes it Anon. It's just the same tired crap like NFT or Bored Apes or the Metaverse and so on and on. Worthless shit that fools a few idiots and then vanishes into nothing. It's low tier crap by design. It cannot be good. It is nothing. It is proompting.
>>223608462Ok then prove me wrong by making a short AI movie of this caliber:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MhKwYjkWFcIf it isn't a skill then you should be able to do it no problem. I'll wait.
>>223604466>>223604210It has a vague sense of incoherence like a dreamEven the characters are only vaguely consistent from scene to scene
>>223608534Ok teach me senpai
>>223608563it's not even remotely like nfts
>>223608568This. It lacks attention to detail because the AI doesn't have any attention it can give
>>223608564The proompter cannot make a movie either so it's not even an argument. If he could make a movie he wouldn't be a proompter and AI user.
>>223608563I really don't think you have any concept of how the tool works. You sound like one of those low IQ luddite retards who thinks they have to call everything made by AI "slop" so you can get good boy points from the mob
>>223608608You genuinely have no clue how the technology works.The short film I posted was a movie made by one person using AI as a tool. He was able to make a good short film because he is a skilled artist and good at wielding the tool.If you don't believe AI is a tool and that the people who wield it are artists making art, then prove me wrong by making a short film of equal or better quality
>>223608582No, it's exactly like NFT's. The whole culture around it is the same. A few saars here and there, a few grifters and a few fleecers that run off with cash. AI is a worthless invention. It only impresses people who have no actual artistic skill or even a drive to be artists, it's just another grift for them. We've seen this already. It's just proompting, it's just spam.
>>223604080Sloppy.
>>223608655you genuinely have spent no time in either community, huh
>>223608655Wow. Who would have thought that the AI luddites are genuine retards. Shocking
>>223608618>I really don't think you have any concept of how the tool works.I don't need or am interested in an advanced spambot. AI usage of any kind redelegates a man into the order of lesser hominids.>>223608649>You genuinely have no clue how the technology works.See the above. It's not a tool, it's nothing. There is no artist, there is no art. It's just proompting. It's just audio-visual spam. It's noise, it's static.
>>223605145thisfuck photographs, fucking poseur hacks
>>223608706your opinion is as valuable as the amount of time you have spent playing with the tools you're talking about
>>223607859Oh hey it's the Silent Hill Background Texture exhibition, still salty I missed that.
>>223608680I don't expect a lower being to understand why AI is repulsive and worthless. >>223608696This is an actual AI bot posting propaganda. Never using AI, never paying for AI, never watching or interacting with anything made with AI.
>>223608564The idea that one person can be "better at prompting" than another is a joke, laughable to anyone who isn't a proompter themselves. I didn't click ur link cause I know it's gonna be slop. Keep crying, Lmao (pronounced: Luh-mao)
>>223608755i think you mean to say "i have no knowledge about the topic at hand, but i believe my worthless opinion should be heard anyway"
>>223608725I've already defeated AI. The rest is of no consequence to me. It's worthless to me. It's worthless to humans.
The fundamental problem is that "art" is bullshit.It's always been bullshit.To steal a page from the Marxists, it is the epitome of bourgeois sentimentality, a hypocritical and self aggrandizing product of the societal elite a priori declaring their own social merit.Why was illustration always dismissed as just a craft?Why was paintings created for the lower classes dismissed as mere kitsch?While crude statues like the man fellating himself is celebrated as "art"?It's because only one of these forms of expression is created by the social elite for the social elite. That is what it makes it "art". That is why Gustave Doré was dismissed by critics as a mere "illustrator" in his own lifetime while being fantastically popular with the general public.AI work is dismissed as slop because it is inherently egalitarian. It is made by common people for common people and the cultural "taste makers" absolutely despite that. It has nothing to do with the fact that computers are used in its synthesis, something which isn't remotely unique to AI work.
>>223608780>*vacuum noises*
>>223606560Left is KINO
>>223608762You don't know how the technology works it seems. You can prove me wrong by making a short film by yourself that is equal to that. If you think no artist can be better than another artist at wielding a tool then it should be easy for you to make a film of equal quality
>>223608771My opinion is actually the only one that has merit since I'm an actual human, while a proompter is a lesser being.
>>223608816wow, more words from the empty hole
>>223608462>No matter what you make with it, a retarded pakistani child can match your quality with very little effort That's not true. It's an input-output machine so what you put in will affect what comes out.
>>223608755>Never using AI, never paying for AI, never watching or interacting with anything made with AI.It's obvious because everything you said indicates you have no clue what you are talking about. But everyone uses AI. If you use a google search you use AI. The only difference is some people aren't retarded and are good at using it
>>223608831If you're talking about absences talk about AI and proompters. Because both are nothingness.
>>223604080i gotta admit, this looks certainly more creative than 99% of most other slop faggot shit>here's my dark souls character walking through skyrim with an 80s filter for the 12317296th timesomeone clearly has a vision here. i like the mesopotamian looking priest nig
>>223608861fascinating watching you pretend to impart meaning with words, just like a human
>>223608450>AI works for short clips.>Modern movies are using short clips.>AI works for short clips but I cannot imagine a movie composed of short clips made using AI to be engaging.Do you just not find movies in general to be engaging or have you simply not thought your position through?
>>223608505>hating slop is a minority opinion
>>223608771many such cases
>>223604080Im willing to bet the mechanical stuff in this apes chest is never the same between scenes with him.
>>223608858>everyone uses AI.The lesser hominids do. It's a new form of racism for the modern world which is actually valid. Proompters and AI users are a lesser species than humans. >If you use a google search you use AI. I don't. Everyone moved away from US services.>some people aren't retarded and are good at using itYou cannot be "good" or "bad" at being a proompter. It requires no skill or ability.
>>223608878Do you honestly think there is no difference?
>>223608786>AI work is dismissed as slop because it is inherently egalitarian. It is made by common people for common people and the cultural "taste makers" absolutely despite that. It has nothing to do with the fact that computers are used in its synthesis, something which isn't remotely unique to AI work.Bingo!That is the true reason why AI is being dismissed. All the gatekeepers in the word of arts (movies, literature, paintings etc.) have lost all their power over night. They gatekept cultural institutions for centuries and now they are no longer relevant. They hate it and their last hail Mary is to run an inorganic grassroots campaign to convince everyone that anything made by AI is automatically bad ("slop") so they don't lose their control over the institutions. The worst thing imaginable for them is that working-class people can now start making art. That's why there is so much rage directed at at a chatbot.
>>223608920tip toein' in mah jordans
>>223608943Do I honestly believe there is no difference between a movie made by editing together clips of CGI to make a movie, and a movie made by editing together clips made of AI?Obviously. Why wouldn't I?
>>223608894Yeah it is. Most people don't give a shit what tool was used to make something. They just care if the thing is good or not. You should leave whatever internet bubble you came from more. Also everyone uses AI. They just don't say it because low IQ luddites have decided that they will say they won't like something if it was made by AI. But if they don't know its AI they will like it
>>223608814>If you think no artist can be better than another at wielding a toolcrafty wordplay but no. Going back to the thesis about skill floor vs skill ceiling. Clay in the hands of an amateur vs clay in the hands of a professional yields very different results, a difference in quality which anyone can appreciate on first glanceWhen using AI to make something, you don't make anything - you ask the AI to make something for you, and the AI obliges. It's like me going to a restaurant and ordering a meal and saying>wow I'm such a genius cook, I asked for this food and it appeared, I'm better than Gordon RamsayMake whatever you want with AI. A retarded Pakistani seven year old will steal your prompt and makes something just as good.
>>223608920me at the club
>>223608959>The worst thing imaginable for them is that working-class people can now start making art.Working class people have always made the best art. Proompting is not art, proompting is nothing. It's at best grifting, like those endless copies of legit YT channels. It's just audio-visual spam. People who have the ability and desire to create art have always done so. Proompters have never done so, because to them proompting is just a business, a grift, a get rich quick scheme, a fundamentally third world endeavor to garner clicks and ad revenue. They have never had an interest in any form of art or had the ability to create it. It is wholly outside their ability and personality. If they were interested in art of any kind they wouldn't be proompters. AI is worthless to humans.
>>223608915>Im willing to bet the chairs behind Nicholson are never the same from shot to shot behind himcontinuity errors and forgiveable flubs like that have always existed in cinema, why shouldn't the same be true for aikino?when youre holding ai to a higher standard than cinema in a desperate attempt to disqualify it, that sort of says it all already
>>223608959Pencils don't cost more than a few dollars, middle class people have always been able to make art you buffoon
The average shot length in a movie is 8 seconds...I thought Grizzly Bears did a pretty good job of it but it was also an admitted glitch art movie and a demo of how someone could use AI to make a full length movie.
>>223609066It's not word play. It's a fact.AI is a tool. Artists use tools. The art made by artists is only as good as the artist is skilled at using the tool.>A retarded Pakistani seven year old will steal your prompt and makes something just as good.Ok prove it then. I assume you think you are smarter than a retarded Pakistani seven year old. I don't think that because it's clear your IQ is too low to even understand the technology you are discussing. So prove me wrong right now by making the short film. If it isn't a skill, and it isn't art, then you should have no problem picking up the tool and making art as good as the movie I posted.
>>223609080more evil loving luddite babble. with this technology granted to us, we WILL Defeat the elite scum who think they rule over us. the hollywood false lords fear this. your dismissial of the grifting perhaps is fair to an extent, growing pains and even involving bad actors (hired agents of the elites who try to make AI look bad) but it is a small part of the overall weapon against the chokehold that the billionarie elites have over us, and will blossom into a new age of creation where evil is outnumbered
>>223604080the fake film grain effect looks bad. other than that, no comment, really
>>223609066>When using AI to make something, you don't make anything - you ask the AI to make something for you, and the AI obliges. Not quite correct, there's a bit more to it than that.>It's like me going to a restaurant and ordering a meal and saying I'm a cookActually it's more like giving the cooking staff a recipe you created for them to follow while using ingredients you picked yourself, and declaring yourself to be the the head chef.Do you think composers are artists?All they're doing is writing down directions for the musical monkeys in the orchestra to follow to the best of their abilities.
>>223609080>Working class people have always made the best art. Wrong. 100% wrong.Working class entertainment has traditionally been dismissed as having no value.
>>223604080Thought I might remind all the anons here that the creator of Gossip Goblin, Zack London, is a professional illustrator who made artwork for Magic: The Gathering. He's more of a "real artist" than any of the losers seething at his work ITT will ever be :)
>>223608920Everything here is perfect. The way the actors look, the general feeling of late 1960s-early 70s movie, the makeup, the stage makeup on the closeup of the imp. The weird surreal vibe is so much like those old Soviet fantasy movies like Ilia Muromets.Honestly anybody who claims this isn't art, or that modern studio cinema isn't cooked is just coping.
>>223609164Interesting that you completely ignore the most damning part of my post - the part where I explained that you aren't actually making anything, you are asking the AI to make something for you and the AI obliges. You're ordering something at a restaurant and acting like you're the one who cooked it when it arrives. The author of the work is the AI itself, or more accurately, the coders who built the model you're using. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is saying>Look what [YOUR NAME HERE] made!They're saying>Look what Seedance made!!!!your name doesn't even come up because you're not the genuine author of the work.
>>223609174Finally someone gets it. The AI technology is the greatest revolutionary weapon in history against corrupt institutions. The institutions have convinced the plebs to dismiss AI as "slop" so there won't be a revolution against them. It's actually quite pathetic how stupid and easily programmed people are. It's like they were born to be the slaves of billionaires and politicians
>>223609259Hate to be the one to tell you this, Zack. But you're a pretty gigantic faggot. That doesn't bode well for this shitty slop you're shilling.
>>223609080>Working class people have always made the best art.Is that why art was overwhelmingly studied by the wealthy upper class throughout history?
>>223609206Keep insisting on this, maybe public opinion will sway in your favor. I doubt it, desu
>>223609259"professional illustrator" is elite hollywood shit that's on its way out. how many jewish penises do you think he sucked to get that fake job? ai is replacing useless eaters like him and the working class will finally get to make kino like in the OP
>>223608920Look at that little guy go lmfao.
>>223604080>>223608920How in fuck do people make shit like this? I'm on a 16gb 50 series card and it fucking melts every time I try to run WAN. On top of that, prompting is hard as fuck and it's near impossible to get a character stable (or even meaningfully accurate in terms of anatomy) from one shot to the next.
>>223604348There’s literally one in OP’s cover photo….
>>223609300Who are you to call his work "slop"? I don't even mean his AI videos, but his illustrations.>>223609317I'm on "your side", idiot, Zack London is the director of the movie you are praising.
>>223605123>It's just typing promptsbooks are 'just typing sentences'funny people don't think about this. we all know it's possible to be a good writer or a bad writer. carry that idea over. if youre able to describe a visual from your mind in vivid terms so that the machine returns a result as you described it - it's not that different from a script writer doing the same thing. of course there are other variables in the actual generation process - but writing is writing
>>223604372>>223605813>>223609161What is this? Grizzly Bears? I've never heard of it.
>>223604210>proof that we have soulsIs it? Another anon wrote it best, it's like a dream. To look past the inconsistencies (that will only reduce as time goes on), you have to appreciate dreaming. I don't know about you, but the ability to dream is something very important. If you can't dream and can't appreciate dreaming, even with all its flaws, can you call yourself even human?That said, current AI "movies" truly are generic slop, not because they are AI, but because the retards who make them make the same mistake that somehow specifically those make who also spam their AI image generations everywhere - no sense for style. All the modern models can be simply prompted to emulate some more unique style or to even create one by combining different elements. But they just generate as is, so it all looks the same, because it's quite literally the most "standard style" the AI is capable of without guidance. Style can even alleviate the inconsistencies a bit, because it's less obvious when things actually look like something and not just random bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_84575ek6WYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up-SpPnW4RcMore soul than any modern hollywood production.
>>223609375It's made by two entire studios. Don't know much about Fable but Gossip Goblin has been doing AI stuff set in this universe for over a year atp.
>>223609315I don't have to insist on anything.Time is on my side.You're a man in the late 19th century railing about how these nickelodeon kinetoscopes and their low class smut will never surpass the legitimate theater.
>>223609448do we know what engine they use? looks kind of like seedance 2.5 but seems more high detail
>>223609288The only damning part of your posts is that your IQ isn't high enough to understand how the tool works. It's not that you haven't attempted to educate yourself on it, you just can't grasp it because your mind can't reach that level.I'll try this one last time. Here is a piece of art made by an artist who used AI as a tool to make it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MhKwYjkWFcThis is an original work of art. Nothing like this existed in the world until this artist picked up the tool.If you think this isn't art made by an artist skillfully wielding a tool, then prove it by making something just as good right now. Go write your "prompt" as you say and make art of this caliber.My point is that you won't be able to because you have to be talented as an artist and skilled at using the tool in order to do it.>Look what [YOUR NAME HERE] made!They're saying>Look what Seedance made!!!!your name doesn't even come up because you're not the genuine author of the work.That is not true though. Go look at the trailer in the OP. It was made by Zach London. An artist who goes by the alias Gossip Goblin online. He is getting credit for it
>>223605145He was unironically right
>>223609403Grizzly Bears on Methamphetamine, an AI movie some guy on the Darknet made. https://archive.org/details/GrizzlyBearsOnMethamphetamine
>>223609482Last I checked they list provide their used tools in the descriptions of their shorts. There's also a Gossip Goblin Discord server.
How do I stop being an AI doomer? It really feels like everything is going to be worse from now on. People say it's just a tool but it feels more like the invention of the nuke. I'm afraid of the future.
I'm presently enjoying this AI schizo kino the algorithm recommended to me https://youtube.com/watch?v=q2OcgB0-jFkhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=YdOzvoMePK8The best part is the schizos in the comments that think its real.
>>223609399Keep telling everyone this, maybe normal people will start to see it your way, but I doubt it
>>223609649>offers zero attempt to pushback or disagree just filler snarki accept your concession
>>223604080Curious, how long does it take to get to the final result seen in the trailer?
>>223609624Why are you afraid of being able to locally generate bespoke media?
>>223609699I think the vast majority of people have bad ideas and terrible taste and everyone being able to endlessly generate their own garbage will be the start of the human rat utopia.I also think that being able to generate things at the snap of a finger cheapens them. Why are we automating the parts of being human that make life worth living? What's the point of living when you're a serf that works at the mud factory and watches algorithm-generated digital nonsense until the trillionaires just kill you and turn you into meat?
>>223609485Your replies are getting longer I can tell how upset you're gettingIt is delicious I must confessLook all I hear is>but MY prompt is better than YOUR promptAgain, laughable. The average person scoffs at this. You're not a better artist because you figured out how to type >4k, Masterpieceat the end of a string of words. All someone needs to do is subscribe to the same AI service provider that you use in order to instantly acquire all your talent. This is not only true but also the overwhelmingly popular opinion now, tomorrow, and forever. I don't make the rules. This is what people think, and they're right to think it.
>>223609624It is the invention of a nuke.It will force people to realize they literally cannot believe anything that they did not see with their own eyes. It is the death of the paradigm of simulacrum created by film.
I'm glad David Lynch died before he could embarrass his legacy with some terrible AI short film.
>>223609697There was no snark I genuinely hope you can convince them, I'm trying to be nice to you
>>223609624You realize that you got swept up in a social contagion. "AI", as we understand it, is just a combination of tools that have existed on the internet for decades>a chat bot>an internet search>a calculator>an image generatorIt just streamlined things that were already there. That's it.
>>223609788ok misread we cool
>>223609762>What's the point of living when you're a serf that works at the mud factory and watches algorithm-generated digital nonsense until the trillionaires just kill you and turn you into meat?You're already that. Nothing is stopping you from making a painting now, nothing will be stopping you from making a painting in the future.
>>223609762>I think the vast majority of people have bad ideas and terrible taste and everyone being able to endlessly generate their own garbage will be the start of the human rat utopia.Well here's a simple solution to that problem. Don't watch things you don't like.Although the issue is that most movies, books and paintings made by humans are now are terrible. So AI can actually allow true artist to make movies that are good because they can side step the gatekeepers who control the money that was traditionally required to make a movie.
>>223609624Wait, what happened with "just pick up a pencil"? You can just not interact with AI and stick to "REAL ART", you know?
>>223609767Well I have given you three opportunities to prove your point. It's a very simple test. Make the short Ai film if it's so easy. You failed.I will now accept your concession to the debate and go have sex with your mother
>>223609862>Instantly switches to short replies in an attempt to hide the fact that tears are streaming down his face right nowFUCK I should have milked it longer
>>223609624>I'm afraid of the future.It's basically a 50-50 crapshoot.Either ai takes over and is generally benevolent, building a utopia that our billionaire overlords would never approve of.Or it's basically skynet.Or world war/famine/etc breaks out before the above happens.Don't worry about it. You can't change it. No one can. Whatever ai is going to do has already happened. So the lack of guardrails going forwards doesn't matter anymore since it wouldn't make a difference.It's like arguing about the need for seatbelts while you're in a car that's just driven off the side of a cliff.
>>223609974It's neither of those things you absolute mong. It's a chat bot. It's not going to learn how to do new things. It just reads the internet and gives you a response in a way that sounds conversational. It's probably already reached its peak potential. The only thing that has been improving over the last year is the image generation, but that's nearly seamless so it can't improve anymore.
>>223609974None of what we've seen so far is AI, and funnily enough it's not even a step in the direction of AI. People call it AI because they watch too many movies. It's all just a glorified Markov Chain
>>223610059It doesn't need to learn new things, it just needs to be given access to the nuclear codes.
>>223608218You don't know what his dragon was, or what artistic merit it had even in your own criteria, and your threshold for art-worthy amounts to dick scribblings on playground equipment. "Made you look" isn't an artistic statement.Have fun calling others midwits online you projecting faggot.
>>223610059>It's probably already reached its peak potentialit can reverse-engineer software in minutes
>>223610149That doesn't make sense. So lets hypothetically someone stole the nuclear football from the secret service and then typed the codes into chatgpt. What do you think would happen next? A chatbot would somehow fire the nukes? By what mechanism?
>>223610419and? It streamlined the process of reverse engineering. so what?
the global indian slum is coming
>>223610502>The general public now has the technology to make better memes>Its the end of the worldI think AI doomers are getting more retarded than the climate change doomers
>>223608920Slop
>>223610532>Better memesNigga WHAT is in that hookah you're smoking? You laugh when you see an Ai generated meme?
>>223610580The quality of something isn't defined by the tool that was used to create it
>>223609325i'm dead
>>223610149Former AI supporter here. Not gonna lie, it's been hilarious watching this bubble crash and burn. But seriously we can't let it get the nuclear codes.
>>223610580yes
>>223610727I did laugh at that one with the propeller helmet cat floating up to the ring doorbell if I'm honest, you got me there
>>223610768they appeal to my basest sense of humor
>>223610768For me, it's the Bottomless Pit Supervisor
>AI artists when a kid steals their talent by buying a subscription to the same generator
looks cool. what's the problem?
>>223609471And they never did.
lol
>>223608959Serious question: do you know a single person who ISN'T some kind of artist? For my case:>my brother mixes beats>my mom plays the piano>my dad is a sculptor>my friend Mitchell is learning Guitar>Lily writes poems>Nicole draws and posts to DeviantartPosers who prompt a computer to write a song/draw a picture/write a poem for them instead of doing it for real have managed to piss all of us off
>>223604210
>>223612188>Posers who prompt a computer to write a song/draw a picture/write a poem for them instead of doing it for real have managed to piss all of us offWhy? >PosersYou're gatekeeping the making of things? Who put you in charge?
>>223609624It's hard not to doom, don't feel bad.My prediction is that people will kick and scream as it becomes indistinguishable from organic art (there are already AI-written books winning awards and AI songs racking up streams on Spotify) but "no AI was used in this, support real artists!" will become something of an underground movement. Of course, this will rely on an honor system, but why would you expect an honor system to work as endless third-worlders continue to pour into every internet space? I don't think it's going to destroy the world or whatever, nothing that interesting ever happens. Just a gradual snuffing out of human expression and the transformation of all culture into a sewer of capital-V Vulgarity. I hate to sound like a boomer but this isn't surprising, it's the logical next step of social trust erosion and everyone having no choice but to accept a lower baseline of human interaction.That funny video that everyone's talking about is some Nigerian's crypto scam. Not that big of a deal, but is anything you see "real" anymore? Do you care? Should you?Your elderly mother just got a Facetime call of (you) begging for some money because your life is in danger. (You) converse with her, explain things, you desperately need her to tell you her account numbers and passwords, etc. Later, she calls you and asks what happened. You have no idea what she's talking about but your inheritance is now in some Hyderabad guy's wallet.This world is rape.
>>223612281Me? No. Everyone who makes some form of art, which is everyone
>>223609624>but it feels more like the invention of the nukeI'm going to have to listen to modern hippies complain about it for 80 years while nothing actually happens? greeeeeeaaaat
>>223612286You're a retardThe same human creativity exists in a descriptive paragraph prompt as in an a pictureYou worship the manual labor of art even though you likely consider photography and modern art to be art. You likely don't understand how the model trains on the art and are hung up on the "art bashing" delusion because you don't understand how real neurons work either, and can't grasp that the model isn't just compressing the sample data somehow into its model file any more than you are when you look at art or the world around you. In fact, if you use direct references, the model is less of a plagiarist than you.The problem is that you're arrogant and ignorant, so you think no human endeavor other than art (however you poorly define it) is truly special or important, only to find out you can be replaced even easier by bots than programming, and creative writing is the true font of creativity which AI takes the most effort to approximate, so now you're coping hard.
>>223612370If you're a genius writer you shouldn't need a fancy computer to "adapt" your prose into a form fit for consumption. Stop proompting and release a poetry collection I guarantee people's respect for you will go up 100x
>>223612301No, you don't get to be in charge of what other people make or have their computer generate, you dumb faggot. Making something yourself does not give you authority over what someone else makes or doesn't make. You're not in charge of computers. No one asked your permission to generate that, nor will. Other peoples' money doesn't belong to you either no matter how much you seethe and call them evil for making more than you. Kill yourself, subhuman would-be pretty petty tyrant. No one will ever respect your perceived collectivist authority. Everyone would rather vote for an orange cartoon character three times in a row then have your effete boot on their neck.
>>223612410If you're a genius artist you shouldn't need Photoshop or anything with layers to fix your mistakes for you. So stop using it or I'll screech forever and spam about it and act like a nigger! (Kill yourself, retarded cunt)
>>223612435Your premise is that me, my lower middle class parents, and all the penniless 20-somethings I'm friends with are somehow "elitists" gatekeeping you out of being considered an artist when your art consists of asking a computer to make a picture for you, reviewing the output and choosing the one you like the most. These people aren't even art majors or professional artists, they're regular people from all walks of life who do art for fun - completely dumpstering your premise about how art has been le kept from le massesLol
>>223612453Trying to help you mate
>>223612453People who can draw in photoshop can also draw with a piece of charcoal on a rockDojo, casino, it's all in the mind
>>223612370Part of the reason that good art commands respect is that not everyone is capable of creating it.I have nothing against the idea of using it as a tool or to streamline tedious work like coding, my resentment comes from its faggot proponents acting like they're Michelangelo for typing "make a picture that looks like a Michelangelo painting" into a prompter and acting genuinely surprised when people aren't impressed by that. I don't want for the world to be a sea of cheap plastic shit that makes you think "oh, cool" for five seconds before you move onto the next article of cheap plastic shit. Beauty should be rare and valuable.
>>223612620>genuinely surprised when people are not impressedThis is the key thing, you cannot force people to be excited about something no matter how much you kick and scream. The AI output is a little entertaining to the guy who prompted it, not interesting at all for anyone else
>>223612435>>223612512No response. And you were replying so quickly. Thank you for replying so quickly up until you disappeared though, so that I know you read my last post and I know it raped you
>>223606560>used AI as a toolFunny way of saying “typed 3 lines of text to a robot who made the entire thing”
>>223607988In contemporary cinema, the average shot length (ASL) for a mainstream movie generally falls between 2.5 and 4.5 seconds, with a broader modern industry range of 3 to 6 seconds. This represents a massive historical acceleration from classical Hollywood cinema (1930–1960), when a typical shot regularly lasted 8 to 11 seconds.• Blockbusters and fast-paced films heavily skew the average down. They frequently cluster around 2 to 3 seconds per shot. For example, Mad Max: Fury Road has an ASL of 2.66 seconds, while Everything Everywhere All at Once drops to an intense 1.5 seconds.Character-driven pieces and streaming releases lean toward a slightly slower tempo. They typically land in the 4 to 7 second band. Film scholar David Bordwell notes that the standard modern baseline for non-action features sits around 4 to 6 seconds.Independent directors often buck the trend entirely by using deliberate, long takes. For instance, Yorgos Lanthimos's Kinds of Kindness features an ASL of 9.2 seconds, and Jonathan Glazer's The Zone of Interest exceeds 10 seconds.
Art is an integral part of the human experience, not just for people who do it professionally but for EVERYONE. Imagine a guy who welds for a living, but he comes home and practices acoustic guitar to unwind. Or a girl who works as a maid but paints pictures as a little hustle on the side. These are the people you insult when you claim that asking a computer to write a melody / draw a picture is the same as doing it yourself. These people are called regular humans and they areEVERYWHEREWe will not accept the slop.
who gives a shit what artists thinklmao
>>223613183>Imagine a guy who welds for a living, but he comes home and practices acoustic guitar to unwind. Or a girl who works as a maid but paints pictures as a little hustle on the side. These are the people you insult when you claim that asking a computer to write a melody / draw a picture is the same as doing it yourself.These people accepted that art is a personal pursuit, not a profession.The bard, the jongler, and troupe member have never maintained stable employment without royal sponsorship. They are not real careers.
>>223613201And yet they overwhelmingly consider you not an artist if you allow a computer to do your art for you
>>223613240Why do I care what they think?My hobbies are none of their concern, and I make more than either of them professionally. I'm happy for them. I genuinely am. But they shouldn't care what I think either.
>>223604080this be amazing saars
>>223605014Film comes from FILM, from cameras, from theater, from novels AI has no relation to art. The prompts are technical instructions, if artistry is present in those it is abstracted by the model
>>223613309>Film comes from FILMFilm hasn't been FILM for decades now.
>>223604466Btfo
>>223605014>literally every reply is cope
>>223605504Seething cope
>>223613348>ai is no different from any other toolHas always been the biggest cope of all>ai is no different from asking someone to draw a picture, except that "someone" is a robotIs more in line with average common sense/public opinion
>>223608786Insanely high iq post
>>223609080If you have to lie to make your point you lost anon
>>223613433>only possible with graphics cards provided by massive corporations but it's somehow more "egalitarian" than picking up a violin or a pencilExplain
>>223613421>x is cope and I won’t say why>muh public opiniondamn you defeated me
>>223613470NTA, but using a graphics card is easier than using a violin.Hell, I've got 4 graphics cards in my house I use every day, how many violins you think I've got
>every shot is center framed
NPCs really think someone wrote "Make me movie for cinema" to an AI and this whole movie popped out as .mp4
>>223613525Got you. You said easier than USING a violin. You're seething at people with talent, not privelege. A training violin is a quarter the price of a 5070, a pencil costs 40 cents.
>>223613528So just like Obsession and Odyssey.
>>223613542Nah, I think they typed> make monkey man do thisAnd > make monkey man do that5000 times until they had enough clips for a movie. Time consuming, but not impressive
>>223604080>here's that beautiful life affirming right wing art we were telling you about
>>223604080Incoherent slop
>>223605110>Aaaahhh yes years of practicing the art of making no mistakes and carefully layering and mixing my paints is the same as "New Layer Ctrl+Z Ctrl+Z Ctrl+Z Eyedropper Smudge Tool Ctrl+Z Ctrl+Z New Layer Eyedropper Smudge Tool" OMG THAT LOOKS SO COOL IM A PAINTER!Times change and so do the tools. Get over it.
>>223604080take an AD slop faggot
>>223608959LMFAO you always could have picked up a pencil or a beater guitar you lazy fucking faggot. you just have 0 drive 0 skill and 0 patience so you never did.
>>223613700People learn to draw on paper before they get a photoshop license dummyPlus being able to draw is a chick magnet, what chick is gonna be impressed you can prompt slop all day
>>223613701>”i don’t believe that’s right” >You are absolutely correct — it’s not right”
>>223613581No, not at all, actually.
>>223613725Paper?!?! Back in my day we had to draw on rocks with other rocks. Now that's REAL art. Not this flimsy soulless papyrusslop!
>>223604080
>>223613725most of the artists that hate ai are terrible at art. we are also in the early stages of this technology where grifters and retards think it's all or nothing. it's like toy story, "well fuck toy story is a thing so now every single thing needs to be 100% cgi animation."in ten years this tech will be at the end of a production pipeline where it's basically being used as a renderer. it is extremely good at rendering, and it's fast as fuck compared to traditional rendering setups.
>>223613943this is a bit of a stretch let's face it
Gossip goblin uses human VAs so not sure you can call it entirely AI. Also clearly has a storyboard guy but guess thats just part of prompting
>>223614007>most of the artists who hate AIwhat about the normal people who hate it I've yet to see a cope about them
>>223613421>>223613510Jeet retard clearly doesn't comprehend that AI stops being a tool when you have it do nearly everything for you. It's no different than having an employee you order around, or someone you commission to make something for you.AI is the ultimate midwit "ideas guy" placebo.
Let's see...AI generated flicks or millennial slop.Hmm... truly a tough decision.
>>223614099Truke
>>223614040they are just "current thing" normies. >omg BLACK LIVES MATTER>omg covid! 2 weeks to flatten the curve! masks save lives!>omg putin is literally hitler!>omg FREE PALISTINE!>omg AI bad! who cares what they think or say?
>>223608149just fuck off nigger. why must everyone watch slop for you to be happy?
>>223614099>It's no different than having an employee you order around, or someone you commission to make something for you.how are those things bad? this is /tv/, 99.99% of film and television exists because some ideas guy ordered around some employees and commissioned people to make something.
>>223614136who is forcing you to watch ai slop?
>>223614176Yeah the difference is Denis Villeneuve orders around actual people and naked women and stuff when he's shooting a scene which is cool and pimpDoing the same with a gay little computer is not the same sort of power and people don't respect it
>>223604080>open tiktok for masturbatory reasons>immediately flooded with SeinfeldxDagonball videosit's over isn't it
>>223614203in ten years denny's vindaloo is going to be ordering people to use ai to make kinos for him. brass tacks, it is a very useful technology and it can do a lot for a little. are you going to ship off 3 dozen shots to some jeet workshop to slop up your particle effects, or are you going to feed the shots into an ai model with a basic bitch tracking animatic and get the perfect vfx shot in 15-20 minutes?
>>223614176It's bad because those midwit retards come along and say "I made this" and expect the same kind of accolades as someone that would have actually put the work in. AI does so much that if you stamp your name on it then it immediately puts into question just what your actual contribution was.
Art needs intentionally. You need to have a vision and be aware of what you want to say.AI can't be aware of a vision because it's not aware of anything. It's just babbling blindly, extrapolating from the prompt that an organic gives it. When you're not prompting, it's not thinking about anything.
Nobody would have a problem with people generating AI images/videos for fun if they weren't so obsessed with the idea that they themselves MADE the output rather than the output being made FOR them by a computer at their request>It's just a tool like a paintbrush, what's the difference?The difference is that you can't walk up to a paintbrush and ask it to paint something for you, dawg. Most people appreciate someone who can create something themselves instead of needing to ask a computer to do it for them. The moment you're ASKING a service to generate something for you is where everyone sees the distinction
>>223614323midwit retards do that with literally everything, in all artistic fields. rotoscoping, tracing, motion capture, photogrammetry, 3d scans, audio sampling, procedural generation, interpolation, etc, etc, etc. all of those things have a very low barrier to entry, all of those things are loved by midwits, and all of those things have been used to make god tier kino. saying ai is bad because people with no talent have access to it is no different than saying photography is bad because duck face selfies exist.
AI seems useless except for grunt work, which it's very good atYou could hand-draw the key frames in your kino anime, and have AI do the inbetweening
>>2236143231) it's "photography is killing painting" all over again... adapt or get left behind2) what's the argument there really? that humans should continue to work shitty jobs that could be done by robots?do you really want humans to still drive trucks or work in factories in 500 years?3) "destroying society".. ah yes, because half the population working in mines and factories is necessary for a good society.
>>223614453It's a lot easier to pretend to be something you are not with AI than all those things you listed, even photography. It literally induces tranny-tier delusions into people that use it since AI is also designed to be the ultimate sycophant.
>>223614483Photography never pretended to be something it wasn't regardless of what art spaces it displaced. If all workers are replaced then who will buy the products? Or do you seriously believe the AI corpos will gladly hand over the keys and that stupid commie UBI pipe dream will become a reality?Have you heard the kind of shit whistleblowers have been saying on what goes on inside these AI companies? They literally think they are making a god and have started worshiping it at places like Anthropic.
>>223614472Bro you could have the si color the key frames too. Shit is crazy
>>223614602>siThis is genuinely a better name
>>223609249dismissed by who
>>223614530how is paying someone 30 dollars to put on a motion capture suit and twerk for 20 seconds difficult or artistic? the industry standard texturing software is procedural and uses AI to increase productivity and quality. a lot of people seething over ai really don't know anything about any of this shit. https://www.adobe.com/products/substance3d/discover/3d-in-film-vfx-animation.html>Machine learning and AI techniques are also making their way into tools to speed up animation or material creation workflows with great precision, and the industry is pushing more and more for smoother transitions between tools with initiatives such as Universal Scene Description (USD) and MaterialX.time to stop watching movies lolwhat films would even use such slop? >Dune> Blade Runner 2049 (Oscar winner for Visual Effects)REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>223614573>Photography never pretended to be something it wasn't regardless of what art spaces it displaced. lmao of course it was. the 18/19th century was all about which painter can be the most accurate to reality as possible.. then photography appeared and they all got super mad about it.>If all workers are replaced then who will buy the products?you do understand that corpos will need to sell their shit to someone if they want to make money right?so yes UBI will be enforced by the govs and the corpos alike.>They literally think they are making a god and have started worshiping it at places like Anthropic.congrats you fell for a doomscrolling meme.
>>223614631The intelligencia
>>223604348>Demands money from the government>shows up in your neighborhood even though nobody wants it>steals everything>makes everything more expensiveGuys, I think AI might be a nigger...
>>223605558Is this image supposed to be bad? That statue on the right and the red one on top are cool.
>>223614652>photography gets invented>people get big mad and start producing zero effort, zero talent slop>art schools push the slop and stop teaching draftsmanship>most artists outside of commercial production literally don't know the basic fundamentals of art, they just vibe out their slop>ai comes along and takes a fat shit on their zero effort slop kind of funny how that all played out.
>be me, 2007>navigate to google images>type "beautiful woman holding cactus" into text field>seconds go by>pictures of beautiful women holding cactuses appear on my screen>Wow... I must be an artist... look at all these pictures of beautiful women I just made
>>223614637>how is paying someone 30 dollars to put on a motion capture suit and twerk for 20 seconds difficult or artistic?That's a lot more work than inputting a prompt. And something actors can certainly elevate as people have seen with actors famous for it like Andy Serkis. AI slop looks like slop regardless of who is instructing the AI.>Machine learning and AI techniques are also making their way into tools to speed up animation or material creation workflows with great precision, and the industry is pushing more and more for smoother transitions between tools with initiatives such as Universal Scene Description (USD) and MaterialX.>time to stop watching movies lolThat's like saying "prompt engineering" is something that will be a stable career. Nobody cares that Adobe Photoshop had a content-aware-fill feature that's based on AI when the entire software suite is about to be thrown in the trash in favor of prompting into ChatGPT. (Adobe should be thrown in the trash, but for other reasons/excuses). The end result will be these giant kike-ran corpos holding all the cards. Do people really want that? Or are they deluded into thinking local models will even amount to being like the free samples that crack dealers give to prospective junkies. >Dune> Blade Runner 2049 (Oscar winner for Visual Effects)I don't know about Dune but Blade Runner came before LLM's became a thing.
>>223614652>lmao of course it was.Do you even understand the point I was making. A photograph will always just be a photograph. Back in those days having a portrait made with photography available made it a much cheaper option which cut into portrait painting, but the portrait was still a photograph and not a painting. You never saw photographers frame their photos and call them paintings.That kind of fraud however is completely possible with AI. Jeets scam boomers all the time now on those services like fiverr trying to peddle AI gens as actual art. Or those fake influencers on tiktok/instagram. You honestly can't trust anything posted on social media these days thanks to AI.There are all these facets to AI and nearly all of them are negative.
>>223614794you realize that these tools have evolved past 2020 bing and chatgpt "show me bobs" prompting, right? ai is using the same motion capture inputs and has the same granular control over the output, the biggest difference is the renderer is faster. you unironically just sound like a "current thing bad" midwit.
>>223614878making accomplished actors put on green spandex onesies with ping-pong balls all over them really took em down a peg when they started to run their mouths
>>223614859what does any of that have to do with the technology? the same jeets can use a voice changer(without AI) and scam boomers. a jeet can steal art and pawn it off as their own.they can trace a drawing, does that mean pencils are bad?
>>223614878You act like these granular control features and other integrations will matter in the long run (and by long run it's probably a few years, under a decade certainly). I mentioned content aware fill is an integrated AI feature in Photoshop specifically because it's something the chatbots do now and Photoshop is becoming less and less relevant to the point that I think in the future Adobe products will be indistinguishable (if they'll even exist) from services like ChatGPT.
>Jeets scam boomers all the time now on those services like fiverr trying to peddle AI gens as actual art.so? art scams already existed.. it was actually very common in the past until experts created an entire new profession to verify the authenticity of art pieces.same thing is already happening with AI.> Or those fake influencers on tiktok/instagram.opposed to the real bullshiters selling you lies for a living?what a loss>You honestly can't trust anything posted on social media these days thanks to AI.you 10 years ago:>You honestly can't trust anything posted on social media these days thanks to photoshop.did the world collapse?
>>223614915>they can trace a drawing, does that mean pencils are bad?Always these really awkward strained equivalencies and analogies with you people
>>223614915How a technology is abused and the impact of the abuse is absolutely a valid point of criticism. Compare the damage of tracing with pencils with the enshittification of all of society thanks to AI for example.
>>223614961>jeets use ai to scam people! they've been doing that long before ai>uhhh that is different! google christopher coats, an "artist" that went around to comiccons scamming people with his traced slop. tell me why i should be upset about pencils and vellum? >>223614984reminds me of the cultural damage ganger rappers caused with their "music" that is nothing more than a call to violence layered on top of other peoples music.you can the anti-ai shit is prominently leftist because it's just the "people don't kill people, guns do!" argument ad nauseam.
>>223615085>Kindly explains why his analogy wasn't as awkward and strained as it seemedah thank you my gentleman, not sure I'm convinced but perhaps another will be more receptive
>>223604080>God's Don't Give Gifts will be the first entirely AI movie released in cinemasAnd I won't be buying tickets to it. If my wife and kid pester me enough, I might pirate it to prescreen it. Just to pirate it to watch in the comfort of our home if it's "gud enuff". And even if it is, I will never pay money for a procedurally generated movie where the "director" puts in prompts to an "AI".Art isn't Art if there's no soul. And, as far as I can tell, machines can't have a soul. Soulless art is just marketing.
>>223615113this is all you really need to know about the debate
>>223615153you can watch the shit they've made up to this point, it's pretty mediocre as far as film is concerned. they are just a small studio that went all in on the ai grift to set themselves apart from everyone else. it clearly worked, but their work is bad.
>>223615085>we should give jeets access to technologies that make what they do a million times worse and flood the entire internet with slopok>you can the anti-ai shit is prominently leftist because it's just the "people don't kill people, guns do!" argument ad nauseam.Except guns provide enough of a benefit to society however that outweigh their negatives, unlike AI. Arguing for AI is more like saying we need to be back using leaded gasoline because it's so cheap and efficient, who cares if it poisons everything the economy will do great!
>>223615207Pretty much what I figured. Retards thinking they found a get rich quick scheme. But it might actually pay off for them in this case. Anything that follows though, gonna be hard pressed to make any sort of profit once the cat's out of the bag.
>>223615208>we should give jeets access to technologies that make what they do a million times worse and flood the entire internet with slopwhy don't we go after the root issue and shut off the internet? can't pretend jeets weren't a plague before AI.
>>223604080i'd watch it but i'm pirating no way i'm paying for that
>>223604210This is human made entertainment. Human written script. Human voice actors. Human editors. It's just a style if animation, man. It's no less valid than 2D or CGI to adapt a screenplay.
>>223606560Left is grabbing my attention
>>223608036Then I'd still prefer the crucifix submerged in piss over that cliche ,tacky ass, Magic the Gathering ass painting of an angel. The crucifix at least gets me thinking.
