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>the holocaust is...LE BAD
>btw this didnt happen but its the sort of thing that those freakin NAZIS totally would have done
Why are there so many movies like this? If the holocaust was so bad wouldnt it stand on its own without works of fiction?
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it did happen
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>>223609447
The skinny prisoner pictures are due to hunger strikes over the lack of kosher meals. Early post war accounts had prisoners mainly complaining about the poor quality of the soup, and not being given enough of it.
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>>223609447
>based on a historical fiction novel
Uh huh
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>>223609418
Who said it doesn't stand on its own without works of fiction? Nazis?
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>>223609481
>>223609491
If it didn't happen then why are you seething so much over it?
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>>223609447
I dont think it did. I've been to concentration camps in germany and it doesnt have the feel.
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>>223609492
The smoke stacks of birkenau and every "death camp" being discovered by the soviets while only labor camps were discovered by allies
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>>223609533
Is that what the nazis told you to believe?
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>>223609504
i do not like exaggeration and whining. It is shameful
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>>223609418
Why didn't they exterminate the Jews? They had the motivation and the means. If you ask me, the Nazis deserve more hatred than they already get.
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>>223609553
Ive been there, you never have
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>>223609418
>the holocaust... le happened
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>>223609418
>White ppl are so heckkin AWSUM and have SOULS n shit
Typical neoliberal propaganda codified into boomer and gen X mindsets.
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>>223609566
Lol
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>>223609418
There are cogent revisionist arguments but this is plain retarded. Something happening in history doesn't means it's illigetimate to make historical fiction based on it. People invent ficitonal stories hapenning in historical settings all the time.
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>>223609447
>it was real in my mind
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I took a course in college called "documents of the holocaust". Most of the "documents" presented were fictional books like Trap with a Green Fence. We also had a camp survivor come in to speak and showed us his tattoo. It was a 5 digit number in the form of a triangle. I guess he was super lucky to draw such a low number and still survive the whole war.
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>>223609418
>tee hee I'm soooo clever!
Your generation is so fucked its actually hilarious
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>>223609599
Not illegitimate but de-legitamized. Do you even know how many goymericans have schindlers list and other movies ingrained into their heads as historical fact? Then if that gets dispelled, they feel like theyve been lied to and start to question things
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HARRY POTTERRRR DID YOU BUILD ALL OF MY MUGGLE GAS CHAMBERS WITH WOODEN DOORS HOW ON EARTH IS THAT SUPPOSED TO WORK I MAY BE A WIZARD BUT IM NOT A FUCKING WIZARD POTTERRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>223609641
Awful lot of survivors for a targeted mass extermination, all im sayin, Tone
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>>223609652
There is still nothing wrong with historical fiction. The Roman Empire is not fake simply because Gladiator is not a representation of the reign of Commodus.
The problem is amerimutts not being able to distinguish the two.
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>>223609533
>The smoke stacks of birkenau

Monowitz. Birkenau's four Kremas were dynamited by SS sappers (I wonder why). Monowitz's single Krema, which was originally a munitions depot, had been converted again into an air raid shelter with the development of camp II. Soviets tried to restore camp I's gas chamber but they botched it badly. Somehow this is proof that they were able to perfectly recreate everything else.

>and every "death camp" being discovered by the soviets while only labor camps were discovered by allies

Because only six camps in occupied Poland were specially modified for mass scale homicidal gassings. Is it evidence of conspiracy that Poland is geographically closer to Russia then western Europe?
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>>223609681
If there were no survivors you would just say there's no evidence, so great argument
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>>223609418
>extremely documented event by all sides
>umm it's fake actually
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>>223609418
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>>223609731
Retribution by poland against germany for their aggression
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>>223609748
>its so documented that ive never gone through any documents beyond historical fiction and testimony
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>>223609641
There are literally millions of pages of documents. The holocaust was a massive administrative undertaking and required a lot of paperwork.

Open access primary sources
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/p/open-access-holocaust-sources-and.html

>I guess he was super lucky to draw such a low number

This is such a fucking stupid denier argument. Only Jews who passed selection at Auschwitz were tattooed.

>About 400,000 camp numbers were issued in all in Auschwitz. Women, men, Soviet POWs, Roma, reeducation prisoners had their own separate series, and the Nazis used new series for Jewish deportees from time to time (such as the series beginning with letters "A" and "B"), so the actual tattooed numbers never reached 300,000. In fact, the highest issued number was "202499" (the general series for males).

https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/05/rebutting-twitter-denial-most-popular.html?m=1#tattoo
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>>223609746
There should have been no survivors if the 6 million (and rising) figure were true, as no one believed there were even that many Jews in all of Europe at the time. Its a lie.
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>>223609808
Im sure youve gone through these, and tethered how they actually connect to and indicate anything specific related to the shoah
>nooooo other people did it for us!
Ok then, just to be sure you never have yourself
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>>223609731
>Soviets tried to restore camp I's gas chamber but they botched it badly. Somehow this is proof that they were able to perfectly recreate everything else.

Note that this also accounts for the "wooden doors".
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>>223609813
See >>223609746
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>>223609843
>they stopped gassing them(they totally were before though, we promise!), ha take that chuds!
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>>223609681
Aye Tone, how ya gonna write wit somethin when it ain't even been invented yet
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It was real in my mind
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>>223609839
There are millions of pages telling you you're retarded. Don't get mad at the messenger. Go on then. Get to debunking it.
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>>223609907
You assert a thing happened, i remain skeptical. Why would i probe your claim for you? Theres millions of documents as you say, get to work actually looking through them and confirming your bias
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>>223609771
Speaking for yourself?
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>>223609907
There are millions of pages of Star Wars stories. They are more believable
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>>223609878
Auschwitz was three camps not one. When they started the gassings at camp II Birkenau's four custom-made Kremas, they stopped using the ramshackle Krema they had converted from a munitions depot at camp I Monowitz.
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>>223609938
What is this, evidence of the holocaust for ants?!
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>>223609989
They're more believable because you're a literal manchild, though
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>>223609989
Do you have any evidence that the millions of pages of incriminating Nazi paperwork are forgeries? Forensic document analysis is a thing you know.
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>>223610009
They are more believable because they are not based on mathmatical impossibilities. A whole lot of people died in WWII, but all you hear about is the goddamn Jews. Squeeky wheels. They were asked nicely to leave and chose not to.
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>>223609999
Click the three dots and "open original file" you newfag phoneposter.
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>>223610081
>A whole lot of people died in WWII, but all you hear about is the goddamn Jews
Anon have you ever been to school?
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>>223609813
>as no one believed there were even that many Jews in all of Europe at the time

By the Nazis' own census data there were 10 million.
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>>223610042
oh, no... I can conceed that near the end of the war Germany could no longer support the masses in the labor camps and horrible things happened. I can also admit there were brainstorming sessions and a lot of talk about what to do about the problems faced by wartime Germany. I am not going to buy any story that I am told it is criminal to question though. That shit just does not ring true.
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>>223610112
It is actually 14 million in all of the world as of 1925. I looked it up. Still a far fetched accounting with little supporting evidence.
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>>223610112
There are three separate Nazi sources for this figure.

https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-number-of-jews-in-europe-at-eve-of.html
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>>223610162
see
>>223610221

There's your evidence. Follow the link and click the hyperlinks for scans of the Nazis' original census documents.
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>>223610120
>I can conceed that near the end of the war Germany could no longer support the masses in the labor camps and horrible things happened.

The mass graves at Belzec alone contain the remains of over 350,000 people. The camp only had the capacity for 11,000 prisoners. Did the entire population of the camp die of starvation and disease due to a lack of supplies 32 times over between March and December of 1942? That wasn't that late in the war was it?
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>>223609731
>Moniwitz

Er, I meant Stammlager actually. Monowitz was Auschwitz camp III. Stammlager was camp I.



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