>>223736287
They forgot to show her shitting gold turds and pissing champagne

>>223736287
Its funny how he only thing popular about her ended up being Reylo shipping and spawning adaptations of fanfictions.

>>223736287
didn't end up in a BMWF relationship trying to placate ASIA and fumbled from there.

>>223736287
Vomit. Literally the most uninteresting character in Disney Star Wars, which is already full of uninteresting characters holy shit

Well no shit, they killed all the other ones. Even Kylo was more popular and he's dead too.

>>223736287
No action figures of good vidya

>>223736319
You can’t write an adult female character and have her be asexual. It’s not fulfilling.

>>223736388
This.

I don't recall a single thing Rey did that I would describe as likable or compelling.
Even Finn had his moments. You kind of rooted for him to pull his shit together and stop being a loser.
Rey was this void of charisma that the movies where paradoxically expecting you to fall in love with.

>>223736287
nobody cares about this dead shit franchise anymore

Absolutely awful character. The absolute definition of a boring Mary Sue.

>>223736287
>Whenever Rey's not on-screen, everyone else should be asking "Where's Rey?!"

I just saw a fan edit of the sequel trilogy called Journal of the Whills. Yeah, was like I'm not watching Star Slop: Glup of the Shitto too but relented and aside from the odd but understandable continuity mistakes here and there, it was a surprisingly decent rewrite of the whole trilogy. It's not perfect, the dude had to work with the footage he's given but it's way better than the official flicks. Give it a try.

>>223736287
Daisy Ridley isn't very likable. If they cast someone else then the character would've maybe had more success.

>>223736591
I think Daisy Ridley is plenty likable. That character is just nothing.
>she's effortlessly better than everyone, but she doesn't know who she *is*
I'm sorry, but that's insufferable.

All they had to do was make her a cute shy girl, who gets caught up in an adventure, and they would have won.

>>223736287
>maybe the only one

Hmm, perhaps if they didn't humiliate and kill Luke for NO reason...?

>>223736591
Daisy Ridley is charismatic as hell

>>223736674
she's very plain as a person. There's a reason nobody talks about her or waifu posts about her.

>>223736728
there were a few that waifu posted about her, but then i think there were more that made fun of her.
the one with her smiling and teeth barred on top of the Aliens poster saying RUN was great

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>>223736719
go to bed, Daisy

>>223736287
Because despite having princesses in the previous 2 trilogies star wars wasn't a princess story. Disney was out of their element trying to make space opera cinderella. She's just boring and "my parents abandoned me" isn't enough character depth for 2 movies.

>>223736477
It's more complicated than that.
It's a 'male-centric' franchise. And I don't mean that it's for men and not women. I mean that it's an action-adventure fantasy-sci-fi film instead of a romcom/drama/period piece. And that means it has to be 'fun' not melodramatic.
When you have a male protagonist and you deal with romance, men in the audience have to relate to him so you make him a bit awkward, bit of a loser. And he can't be constantly getting laid or he makes guys insecure about their lack of sex. And women have to want him to get the girl, so you have to give him a heart of gold and make him sweet/funny.
When you have a female protagonist and you deal with romance, women have to relate to her. So she has to be a bit frumpy and a bit plain and not too funny. And not an asexual monk because that feels a bit too much like slut-shaming. And men have to want to fuck her, but also feel like the guy she fucks 'earned' her.
That set of criteria for a female character is impossible and contradictory. Frumpy but hot. Sexual but plain but only fucks the male lead after he earns her.
Lucas had the right idea by making Luke mostly asexual. There's a girl he wants to rescue. There's a hint of attraction. It's not the story. The story doesn't dwell on it.
Disney sort of had the right idea by trying to do the same with Rey. Except they immediately had Finn fall in love with her. And then they leant in to the retarded Reylo shit (that literally no one except trannies wanted).

They had to commit one way or the other. The actual correct move would have been to make Rey happily married (or in a long-term relationship) and then kill off her partner in the opening.

>>223736431
boyega zesty as hell it was never going to work

>>223736511
>Rey was this void of charisma that the movies where paradoxically expecting you to fall in love with.
Well all the characters liked her and were constantly talking about her when she wasn't on screen. Wasn't that enough?

>>223736287
Andor is already leagues better

>>223736287
>woman franchise lead
lmao, not even ripley pulled it off

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>>223736287
When she pops her head up and says she bypassed the compressor. Took all my strength not to pick up the remote and press the back button.

>>223736287
A better question is how the fuck did Jisney manage to kill a literal cash cow and undo the cultural zeitgeist it enacted so long ago

>>223737135
>Rey is Poochie
LEL

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>>223736287
The boob monster would be a better protagonist than her. The bar is that low.

>>223737305
The movies themselves were profitable though, as shit as they were. Just shows they didn't what they were doing despite Marvel doing great at the time (although I don't get why people watch that shit either)

>>223736574
Rey had to go, her home planet needed her..

(Note: Rey died on the way to her home planet)

>>223736287
Her movies weren't very good. I like the actress well enough and she was a cute but really the writing was bad and the overall trilogy was hyper garbage.

>>223737305
Also SW had really run its course when Disney decided to buy it. If Lucas had never made another movie, but carried on with books, comics and vidya, that would have been just fine.

>>223736287
The only thing that can save SW now is desert nudist rey

>>223737108
>When you have a male protagonist and you deal with romance, men in the audience have to relate to him so you make him a bit awkward, bit of a loser. And he can't be constantly getting laid or he makes guys insecure about their lack of sex. And women have to want him to get the girl, so you have to give him a heart of gold and make him sweet/funny.
Sure, sometimes, but what about James Bond, or really any male character in a movie with the "they lock eyes, cut to them fucking in the public bathroom" scene? A lot of them are male-centric franchises.

>>223737305
They had ESG investment flowing so it didnt matter what the quality of their slop was.

What is it about Star Wars and causing its female leads to develop cocaine addictions

>>223737535
The type of personality that makes you want to be a movie star, also makes you seek out hard drugs.

>>223736511
>I don't recall a single thing Rey did that I would describe as likable or compelling.
I liked her when she was making slop muffins and marking days until her parents come back, and having an autistic larp with the X-wing helmet.
Then she finds the droid, and it's all downhill from there.

>>223737266
Best scene to come out of the nu-trilogy (I haven't even watched the third film)

>>223736287
uh, she's an alien? she's not from earth. what are we supposed to connect to?

>>223737108
>When you have a male protagonist and you deal with romance, men in the audience have to relate to him so you make him a bit awkward, bit of a loser. And he can't be constantly getting laid or he makes guys insecure about their lack of sex
you're projecting your feminine neurosis onto the male audience

>>223736287
Because the movies were bad.
How fucking retarded are you that you need this spoon fed to you?

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>>223736287
>Why didn't Rey become as popular as Disney expected?

No tits.

Its fine if your actress makes up for it with large and in-charge nipples, like Florence Pugh or Awkwafina, but Rey's just flat and no nippled.

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>>223736287
Rey is in the Cade film

>>223737501
>Sure, sometimes, but what about James Bond
That's a good point that I should have clarified better.
Bond's romances aren't romances. They're glorified model showcases. There's no seduction involved. You're not supposed to root for him to get the girl or relate to him. Instead, it's the most literal form of a power fantasy. It's a different storytelling model.
And that's why that type of plot progress appeals a lot more to older men (different time etc etc), doesn't appeal at all to women, and why more modern Bond films have moved away from that.
As soon as the Bond girl becomes more than just a prop to showcase how manly Bond is, Bond has to seduce them properly. And so to take Casino Royale for example, Bond is still gritty and cold and all the rest. But he's a little nervous around Vesper. He doesn't bed her immediately. She teases him. He shows himself as vulnerable before her. And only then do they fuck.
>the "they lock eyes, cut to them fucking in the public bathroom" scene
Similar to above, it's never a romance where you're supposed to relate to it or root for it (or if it is, it fails). Most of the times it takes place in dramas as the softcore erotica part (completely different set of rules), or else, like with Bond, it's only there to be a quick way to show how manly the guy is.
The only possible exception is in like a romcom where it's trying to subvert the romantic seduction.

>>223736287
Because her movies sucked and she was written as a total poochie.

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>>223736287
She's too old and can't act. Just find some any unknown actress and build up new stories with her instead. I don't ever wanna see Rey again

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>>223737862
>She's too old and can't act. Just find some any unknown actress and build up new stories with her instead. I don't ever wanna see Rey again
Too bad.

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>>223737876
Why does Disney think we want to see hags for. George Lucas might have messed up here and there but he gets what people want to see

>>223736287
kek this is just sad

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>>223736477
she wasn't asexual though

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>>223736578
https://www.reddit.com/r/fanedits/comments/12ylaf0/star_wars_journal_of_the_whills_the_entire_sequel/

>>223738195
This is how we win, Finn

>>223736287
girlbosses only work when you're putting endless money into astroturfing them, the moment you stop it's over

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She was very popular with my dick

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>>223738195
Imagine putting this lovely pudding into an asexual shapeless shit colored potato sack instead of a hot sci- fi skin tight bodysuit.
Rian Johnson should face a firing squad for this, right after KK.

>>223737607
She literally started out as the prettiest Jawa. Except a Jawa would have much better negotiating skills.

>>223736511
She bypassed the compressor

>>223736803
What about when the crew loses confidence and mutinies because the fleet is getting the shit kicked out of it?

>>223736287
What if Jessica Henwick had actually won out on the role of Rey?

She was pretty believable as a coalburning whore on Orient Express

>>223736287
Because her movies sucked duh

>>223736591
You're a retard. Rey was badly written. They had no idea what her origin was and changed it in every movie and they gave her no character development and you're saying that it was a casting problem when Daisy Ridley wasn't even that bad, probably because the horrible writing made your stupid mind think that the actress was bad. You're just not smart.

>>223736287
Girls don't care about Star Wars.

>>223736388
Yup. No matter how hard they try to push a female lead, a White man is always gonna steal the show. It's just the free market, they should try listening to it for once.

>>223740362
That's never been true.

>>223738374
She's fat, the dress just hides it well.

>>223740362
This has been true for nearly 50 years.
Females don't care about action movies or video games either.

>>223740373
Disney didn't make this trilogy to make money. They knew that they could lose money on it and decided to go in that direction. With a smaller IP, there would have been more of an incentive to make something decent, but, from their perspective, Star Wars allowed them to make movies that people would hate to express their philosophy.

>>223740431
No, girls have always liked Star Wars. You're relying on the hope that some people with no exposure to the outside world via the internet or real life might believe you.

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>>223736287
Only a TRUE Star Wars fan can answer these questions

>>223736674
Compare Rey as a character to Carrie from the new show. People looooooove Carrie, and it’s not just because she’s cute (although it certainly doesn’t hurt). You look at her and understand that she’s basically the telekinetic version of the Hulk, fueled by a lifetime of repressed anger and mental abuse. She’s also sheltered, naive, and vulnerable. Rey is none of those things, but she could have been, and she’d have been far better-received if she had been.

>>223737328
Lmao

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>>223736287
The first movie was very save, but had a spark and you understood where it was going it was good, the director of the second movie then destroyed everything that was set up and with it not only ruined the second movie but also the first movie retroactively and the third movie, whoever hired this moron to direct the second movie literally destroyed the entire new trilogy.
Prove me wrong, you literally cant.

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>>223736287
>Why didn't Rey become as popular as Disney expected?
Really boring costumes, sequel version of dagobah was boring, didn't have a cool lightsaber

>>223737535
>give a br*tish slag 400k to star in your movie
What did you expect?

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>>223736287
They forgot to make her likeable as they were raping the franchise to death
Honest mistake, anyone would have made in their place

>>223740474
Females hate men and they hate things that men enjoy.
The only thing they wanted from star wars was to ruin it for young boys. They don't believe that boys deserve role modals, or to see themselves represented in film.

Star wars has only been a marketing campaign anyways, the movies are just long commercials for the toys and shit they want to sell. You think GL made his fortune from the movies? naa it was all from the toys.

>>223736468
She had her own action figures. They barely sold, though. Fuck, I remember seeing them on a shelf, untouched, kek.

>>223738021
Sounds dumb, but I guess it would've been more creative than sequels we got.

>>223736431
Imagine seething about this

>>223736431
>making it worse would have saved her!
No?

>>223736674
She’s boring

>>223737108
Yeah you’re wrong about literally everything you said and used way too many words to say it

>>223736287
reminder that disney did NOTHING for the 10 year anniversary of the force awakens

>>223740942
It actually sounds intellectual and interesting

>>223740320
she’s boring and seems like a low iq feminist

>>223740451
True

Even Finn was more of a compelling character, but the writers never let him do anything cool.

>>223736287
She couldn't be more boring. Her entire arc has the gutter bumpers up so that she is never in any actual danger, and doesn't actually have to earn any advancement. She just starts at perfect, and only goes up from there. Even her enemies are in love with her.

It doesn't help that it's kind of gross that the entire Skywalker bloodline essentially went extinct while Palpatine's stole their name.

>>223741290
>the writers never let him do anything cool.
Like what? Rap?

>>223741290
His story should have been about finding a way to free the abductees that the First Order wanted to turn into Stromtroopers.

>>223741556
yes. he should have done a diss track against captain phasma.

>>223741556
Lmao

>>223737876
Assuming this doesn't quietly get shelved like practically every other planned Star Wars film did in the several years after TLJ, I'm already calling it that we'll see every single article and promotional release pointedly referring to her as
>Rey Skywalker
and never just "rey" because Disney are desperate to force the "skywalker saga" bullshit that nobody has ever considered the sequels a part of.

>>223736287

She bypassed the compressor.
Totally subverting audience expectations.
Nolan: take note.

>>223736287
she had little going for her to begin with and what few interesting things they had with her soon got ruined as well, not helped by the fact said trilogy was shit

>>223740942
Could have been neat.
>older cast going around the galaxy following leads on force sensitives, like the Jedi Academy Trilogy but with less Sun Crusher
>potential for some kino in Hutt Space, bring back some of the bounty hunters from Empire doing work there and actually do Fett some justice, maybe even have him run into old Han
>Imperial Remnant/warlord-era shit
>get to see Luke passing the torch, learning and struggling based on his teachings with Yoda, talking to force ghosts
>probably have one of his disciples turn to the dark side, have them redeemed in the end
Wouldn't even need to touch on Mara Jade or Thrawn or any of that shit to make it good. Just do the Jedi Academy trilogy but scrap all the Daala/Sun Crusher shit and replace it with Maul and the criminal underworld/Imp remnants.

Rey is such an atrocious character. She has no journey, she's just always perfect. She cries because she's told her parents were worthless drunks but it's just not even true. Then she just gets to declare herself a Skywalker? Fuck off.

>>223741576
It still makes me laugh that they had that shit foreshadowed from his very first appearance in the movies but then at the last minute wrote in a completely different character who shows up out of nowhere leading a group of former abducted stormtroopers.

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>>223736287
Ridley does not have charm and she was already walling during the filming of the first movie. She's only cute and youthful during the first act, by the time they got off Jakku she was visibly fatter and cuntier looking as a result of her youth melting away before our eyes and her character went from a forlorn abandoned underdog living at the bottom of society to being a know it all bitch faced girlboss that all the old Star Wars characters love and respect for absolutely no reason and duelling Kylo Ren to near defeat before he's saved by diablos ex machina. She then proceeds to somehow get even stronger and even more loved by everyone in universe over the following films despite doing nothing to earn any of it, while not being cute or charming enough as an actress to help audiences forget that.

>>223741115
Were they supposed to?

>>223741115
That movie is REALLY bad

>>223741861
>lives on desert planet (just like Luke, see!)
>finds a droid (just like Luke!)
>leaves the planet to help the rebels (just like Luke!)
>steals a ship and pilots it herself to get off the planet (just like- oh wait)
>meets Han and Chewie (okay now we're back on track) and turns out to be better than them at piloting their own ship (wait fuck nevermind)
>gets given Anakin's lightsaber by some random character nobody's ever heard of, even the characters themselves
>manages to force mind read a trained jedi/sith/whatever the fuck kylo is
>frees herself from Starkiller Base using the force, which she's never even heard of
>inherits the Falcon and Chewie's life debt after knowing Han for about twenty minutes
>"trains" with Luke for an afternoon, this is enough to not only levitate rocks but also fight off the most powerful Sith in the galaxy
>is so good at using the force she can not only use it to save on her long distance charges but also to teleport items across the fucking galaxy like it's a portal gun or some shit
>constantly gives in to fear, anger, hate, all that shit, never in any danger of falling to the dark side because she's such a good girl
>not content with stealing Luke's dad's lightsaber, his best friend, his best friend's best friend, his best friend's ship, his sister, and his actual life, she steals his name too
I don't know how anyone thought that people would find her likeable in any way.

>>223737607
Kek, this is actually a good point. I liked her little moment sitting with her helmet on, and living in a downed tank is peak comfy. Once the plot abducts her for its own purposes she becomes totally unlikeable.

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>>223741955
well, I think if they had confidence in the movie, they might have
maybe they'll do something for the last jedi next year

>>223741115
Would you, if you were in their shoes?

>>223740789
You're clearly way too emotional to think clearly about this, but it's pretty well-established that women have always liked Star Wars.

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>>223736287
>the most valuable cinematic asset they have
Yeah Star Wars is fucked

>>223740890
>You think GL made his fortune from the movies? naa it was all from the toys.
No, it was from the movies.

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>>223736287
Because, wet cardboard is generally not very charismatic. Replace Rey entirely with Kylo Ren by himself and they would have succeed. The first movie would be about his loss of innocence, the second would be full darkside and the third redemption, easy money for a bunch of dipshits who wanted to do nothing but lampshade the OT so hard.

>>223740451
I don't think that's entirely true. I think they were under the impression that whatever garbage they shat out would make money regardless solely because "it's Star Wars, the people love Star Wars", and they saw that as carte blanche to just do whatever the fuck gay shit they wanted to, on the assumption that nerds would pay to see it based on brand recognition alone.
And they were right, for a time. Even after TFA you had people willing to give TLJ a shot, but once the nerds realized "oh, this isn't actually going to get any better, is it" they gave up on it, and they were the ones actually buying all the merchandise.
They set out to make movies that would piss off the audience (or at least Johnson did with TLJ) but they absolutely still thought they would be making money off it.

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>>223737135
>Rey needs to be louder, angrier, amd have access to the Millenium Falcon
>Whenever Rey's not on screen, all the other characyers should be screaming: REEEEEEEEY!

>>223742143
To follow up on this, if they were so convinced that they didn't need to make money on Star Wars and just wanted to throw billions into a trash fire in order to push the message, they wouldn't have abruptly stopped making movies after Rise of Skywalker. They'd have kept shitting out a new one each year, like they were doing prior.

>>223742139
I love the fact that this shitquel trilogy started with fans and the creators painting George Lucas as the ultimate villain and to throw out all his ideas. Now, we've basically come full circle and come back to saying "We should use Lucas's ideas".

>>223739631
soinds like the admirral failed

>>223737305
Hubris. They thought they could just wing the whole thing with no plan and no oversight. Hell, I doubt they even had much in the way of editing.
>>223737473
Disney buying it gave the whole franchise a shot in the arm at first. The hype for Force Awakens was huge right up until people saw it, albeit not nearly Phantom Menace levels.

>>223742177
kek

>>223736287
She was pretty fucking popular at Lucasfilm — isn’t that all that matters?

>>223742205
But anon, we're told by the other characters that she's a tactical genius and did some bullshit in the Battle of Whogivesafuck in a throwaway line, how can she fail?
this line is still hilarious because everything we see of the character tells us the exact opposite

The Star Wars sequel trilogy is the most disastrous thing to happen to cinema. Think about it. The quality of movies has not recovered since Rise of Skywalker came out.

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>>223742119
It's crazy that some random chick from a little known 2d oriental fap cartoon has more likeability and charm than an A list actress in a billion dollar mega franchise movie.

>>223742187
It's just retarded, Disney said they had their own ideas and threw the existing lore into the trash to that end only to waste so much time and money on what was essentially just the OT, but worse. If they wanted to do that, they could have just remade the originals with a new cast and been done with it as a launch pad for their Star Wars universe. It would have been equally as stupid but at least the OT would have been left alone.

>>223736477
No, it's fine to have an asexual MC, male or female. Rey was just an all around boring character in a trilogy that started off boring in its premier movie and went on to piss all over the beloved original trilogy characters while devolving into utter retardation. Of course nobody gives a fuck about Rey. She's a bland character in an offensively shitty series.

>>223736287
She's a sexless Mary Sue. It literally doesn't get any worse than that.

>>223741115
It's been ten years already? The fuck?

Imagine getting inside a time machine and going back to 1983 and being like "Hey! One day there will be Episodes 1, 2, and 3 as prequels and Lukas will sell this insanely successful franchise to Disney and Disney will blindly sink everything to the bottom of the ocean and nobody will like Star Wars anymore." There would have been a court order forcing you to be institutionalized in a loony bin for the rest of your life.

Doesn't matter who they would've casted because that script was complete ass and she'd be hated across the whole fandom like Daisy is now.

>>223740890
But the Star Wars Sequel toys sold like shit and sat on shelves. It even almost killed Toys R Us.

>>223736388
>popular

>>223736287
They should have turned her evil over the course of the movies while simultaneously turning Adam Driver into the hero. Would have endeared both their characters more to the audience.

>>223741898
I’ll never be over that shit. It was right in front of them - Space Spartacus.

>>223742043
I ain’t exactly holding my breath.

>>223742966
>They should have done *thing that would have required coordination and planning across multiple movies*
Yeah man. Maybe!

>>223736287
no boobs no ass ugly face Gaylord voice and stupid weapons and clothes. says retarded shit and makes even dumber faces while saying them. everyone she interacts with looks bored and unimpressed by her at her

>>223742043
It's really telling that everyone who blindly praised this shit was never actually able to point out what made it good other than
>it made the fans annoyed

>>223743431
The criminal who is too cool to have political opinions turning out to be a traitorous shithead is good.
The Hotshot pilot who goes against orders not being completely correct to do that is good.
Every character being familiar with the Palpatine throne room scene, taking different lessons from it and trying to speed run towards it without doing the ground work first is good.
Luke having a non-macguffin reason to fuck off to a remote island without directly telling his friends/family where he is going is good.
Having most of the movie be a big chase is conceptually good, but is undermined by the smashing up a casino subplot, which is also conceptually good for a different movie.

>>223740320
She was definitely meant to be a posh girl from high up in the Empire abandoned on some shithole planet for some reason
That's why they gave her a posho accent

>>223736287
>write shitty movies with shitty characters
>no one cares about the characters
Imagine that.
I wish Daisy was my wife, we could fuck on nu wars on twitch or something, it'd be funny to troll the retarded faggots.

>>223737607
based 'tistic girl enjoyer

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>>223736591
>blaming the cute adorable actor instead of the focus-testing producers and writers
get gassed, corposloppist

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>>223737802
Bond is also an archetype or a static protagonist. He rarely undergoes any character growth, as each movie more or less tells its own contained story. Star Wars trilogy structures alternately invite the expectation of character progression from weak to strong.

>>223736511
They didnt want to make her more feminine and they didn't want to make her more masculine, either in characterization or personality.

They'd have been way better off making her a princess and part of the Disney princess line. If she'd had a pink lightsaber and a dress people would at least talk about her.

>>223737074
She's a side character you pick up and add to your party on one of the ten planets the devs made for you to explore, she's not a main.
What a waste of everything those turds are. At least the prequels had some good vidya come out for them, like Racer and Jedi Power Battles. The nu shit has nothing.

>>223743623
No, thy fumbled that shit, too. She was abandoned through the bulk of her childhood. Unless accents are genetic in a Galaxy far, far away, she’d have been sounding like all the people around her.

>>223736431
>trying to placate ASIA
Implying the Orientals are the only ones who are disgusted by such hideous visages and acts of zoophilia.
Nobody likes to see every last nose hair in someone's nostril every time they tilt their heads slighlty upward.

>>223737074
They didnt do that at all. Suzanne Collins did that and you can see how successful it was. The Hunger Games puts the girl in dresses and makes her the center of a love triangle and she has all these scenes where she totally doesnt want the attention etc etc etc

Rey isnt a princess, she doesnt get one scene like that. They didnt even make star wars for girls really. If they had they would've succeeded. If Rey had like 10 different hairstyles and iconic outfits and dresses and different lightsabers and colors for whatever reason in every movie and a serious romance plot girls wouldve paid more attention to her.

>>223738021
That is gay af. The novels and comics did everything so much better than George Lucas could ever hope to long before he started dipping his toes back into the Star waters.

>>223737763
Two words:
>Natalie
>Hershlag
It wasn't the lack of boobage, dickshit.

>>223736287
She was the lead of the sequels

No gaps between the movies

Luke goes from being a dumb hick to an experienced fighter pilot in the span of like a year, and gets jedi training on top of that

There's a reason Empire is considered the best of the OT

>>223743552
>The criminal who is too cool to have political opinions turning out to be a traitorous shithead is good.
All it really amounts to is "what if Han just sold Luke and Obi-Wan out to the Empire, wouldn't that be funny lol" and it loses any impact because of the absolutely retarded chain of events that happen to get the characters to that point in the first place.
>The Hotshot pilot who goes against orders not being completely correct to do that is good.
Except Poe is completely validated, the ship he blows up at the start would have wiped out the Resistance fleet immediately after they jumped, instead we get the retarded slow speed chase. And again, this whole plot point only works because we have to pretend that the First Order is on such a tight budget that they can't afford to lose more than three TIE fighters across their entire fleet.
>Every character being familiar with the Palpatine throne room scene, taking different lessons from it and trying to speed run towards it without doing the ground work first is good.
I don't even know what you're implying by this. Is it just Rey trying to immediately confront Snoke, then Snoke retardedly trying to sway her and Kylo going "lol get rekt"? Because honestly, that once again just makes every character in the movie look fucking stupid.
>Luke having a non-macguffin reason to fuck off to a remote island without directly telling his friends/family where he is going is good.
His reason is ultimately dumb and completely discordant with his established character, this is the guy who refused to accept that Darth fucking Vader couldn't be redeemed and now he's throwing in the towel after having a bad dream about his nephew. Plus, there is a macguffin in the "sacred Jedi texts" which are fucking retarded because we've already seen the Jedi archives on Coruscant and they were all digital.
>the chase/casino scenes
Both insipidly boring and completely out of place in a Star Wars movie.

>>223744177
Luke was already a somewhat experienced pilot, and past Yavin you don't even see him fly anything in combat outside of a snowspeeder which he also gets shot down in without scoring a single kill.
Rey in comparison just magically knows how to fly and fight and do Jedi mind tricks all in the space of a single day.

>>223736287
Because she was created by a soulless corporate boardroom based on algorithms instead of a single movie nerd ripping off his favourite childhood stories.

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>>223740413
Awkwafina has a bit of podge, but everyone of discerning taste loves her. A little bit of plumpness can turn an 8 into a 10.

>>223742343
mezzo forte is kino, especially THAT scene

>>223744177
>>223744333
There was also 4 full years between Star Wars and The Empire Strikes back. This wasn't a quick one-year interval, he had 4 fucking years of space combat and jedi training that he had to stick to.
This 4-year gap doesn't really make sense in context of the Han-Leia relationship, because it takes a few months at most for shit to get going, but for Luke, yeah, he dove head-first into XP farming right after Owen and Beru were murdered.

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>>223740373
I DON'T CARE THEY KISSED THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS WHO LAYS THE PIPE AHHHHHHHH DISNEY PLS GIVE ME A JOB I'M SORRYYYYY

>>223742143
With the infinite money cheat attached to your bank account by your kike masters, the message instantly becomes far more important than the revenue.
Nu Wars is about destruction of a beloved franchise. You can ensure they do not win by holding on to the good Star Wars material pre-prequels and REEEmasters. "Jedi Knight" will always be a massively fun game.

>>223736287
Nobody gave a shit about Luke Skywalker with a pussy

>>223736287
she's one of the most boring protagonists ever conceived, it's why people who praised The Force Awakens were alwways cocksuckers who fell for the corporate focus testing

also the actress they picked was no good, not a good actress and not pretty enough

>>223737108
interesting post. Good job.,

>>223744848
>even Rich Evans called TFA competent
literal midwits; still raking in the patreons
I hate everything.

>>223739631
This is not an option on the poll, chuddie. Vote.

>>223744770
So why'd they stop making movies, then?
You're right on the video game front, I've still got almost all the classics on GOG to play through before I even consider the new ones (of what few there are worth playing)

>>223744177
>No gaps between the movies
You don't understand, we NEEDED the post-credits marvel cliffhanger of Luke.

>>223743868
That's different. The Jewess was appealing to pedos (Lucas was one). Gay pedos who's into grooming shotas. Also, we hated the Prequels too.

>>223737508
In the end it's just short-term greed again
>Why get more money later if I can get money now?
When what they were being paid for was throwing their money printers off a cliff. It's insane how many established IPs with huge loyal fanbases where thrown under the bus for this in the last 15 years, when all they had to do was to stay the course to collect their ever growing paychecks anyway.

>>223745462
>okay guys I know we just bought the goose that lays the golden eggs
>but mr shekelberg says he'll pay us $500 if we cut it open and desecrate the remains

>>223736591
True, she’s mid as fuck and can’t act

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>>223736287
Rey gets breast implants and gym membership

>>223744285
>the chase/casino scenes
>Both insipidly boring and completely out of place in a Star Wars movie.
This could have worked if it had been podracing instead of space horses

>treasure hunt piecing together a star map that leads to a great prize
>a protagonist with a deep connection to the dark side which they have completely forgotten/never knew
>a planet-sized mcguffin machine
I am referring of course, to KotOR 1

>>223742907
People just saying whatever pops into mind huh.

>>223737108
>>223744884
you're retarded and your shit stinks, faggot