>Alien 3>Darkest movie in the series>Gave us the most iconic shot in the entire Alien franchise>People hate it for some fucking reasonWhy?
>>223748668it's actually a comfy movie but i prefer resurrection over it
Listen I just think it's time we discussed the bonus situation
>>223748733Legend
>>223748668>Why?just for example, WB was rolling teaser trailers in theaters for Alien 3 before the script was even writtenproduction was a mess from start to finish
>dark = good
>>223748668>the most iconic shotIt's the most retarded shot for those who actually understand the alien's nature
>>223748668Alien3I used to dislike the third Alien for a long time but after watching it on several occasions in recent years, it actually grew on me substantially. Talking specifically about the assembly cut, I think it’s actually a pretty solid film. This was an infamously troubled production and who knows how different the end result might have been if they stayed true to the original vision. But ultimately I’m fine with what we got. It’s funny to think there were times when this was considered a weak product when by today’s standards it’s an outright masterpiece. How the medium degraded…What I really liked about the film is its atmosphere of being stuck on some forsaken rock of rusting industrial complexes and dilapidated machinery. It’s all very bleak and depressing in the best sort of way and is explored to the extent I haven’t seen in any other movie. It is an absolute joy to watch if you’re into those aesthetics. Of course all of that wouldn’t mean much if it wasn’t filmed properly and thankfully the cinematography is excellent, with a lot of powerful wide shots and compositions. The art direction is also great; the film is roughly divided into two primary color schemes of metallic bluish gray and rust sepia, photographed with deep shadows that give everything that brooding weight. It conveys the atmosphere perfectly.Special effects on the other hand took a hard hit and sadly do not hold up. Many people think they used CGI for the Xenomorph, but that’s actually incorrect, they puppeteered a doll on a green screen and then superimposed it in. And yeah, it looks terrible, has a noticeable green outline and doesn’t blend in right in any shot. Other VFX range from okay to passable but thankfully this isn’t really an effects-driven project and everything that was shot in-camera looks good to compensate for that. The music is also really good and has a clear, powerful sound, though it’s largely reminiscent of the Aliens score.
>>223748668Because it wasn't a quippy joss whedon film like alien 2. It was what the first movie was trying to be. Just Ripley's struggle against the alien and the company. No bullshit no catchphrases no toygenic cartoon tie-ins. And unlike the first movie things actually fucking happened in this one. It was a good movie so shills are paid to cry. Simple as.
Why's she so heckin' cute, guys?
>>223749019Dilate retard
The Legacy Cut is kino
>>223748886you are actually retarded or did not watch the movie
>>223748886wat You mean it's not something a real life alien would do in reality?
The cryo pod ejection system is 99% death.
>>223748968Legacy cut fixed a lot of vfx issues.
>>223748668>darkestIt's not the darkest whatsoever. Everyone dies in one and two. More people survive in number three than all the others. It's only one shitty xeno chasing around a bunch of nobody prisoners. There's never any real stakes or significant threat. The movie contrived bullshit reasons to kill off the other characters because it simply didn't want to deal with having them in the story and actually being killed onscreen. That doesn't make it dark. That makes it dumb and idiotic.
>>223749090>>223749125>doesn't understand the alien's nature
>>223749199Yeah, Alien 3 was the first to completely ruin any consistent rules between the movies. Instead of deep space travel where they go from one planet directly to another, now they can randomly be near others even though it makes no sense. You'd think they'd have a dozen Bishop androids on board tending to sleepers and putting out fires rather than ejecting them into deep space. It also screwed the pooch on deciding to make the alien alter itself based on whatever it impregnated. That was 1000x stupider than the xenos having a hive-like social structure. Now there's bull, snake, gorilla, spider, and mantis xenos? Fun for kid's toys but really stupid otherwise
>>223748668>previous movie satisfactorily concluded the plot>make a bunch of shit up and to undo the previous film's well-earned ending and kill everyone who could help Ripley and that she has a connection to so it's just her running around fighting the Alien again>make everything really fucking miserable for no good reason>conclude the film the same way, with the aliens all allegedly dead, except now all of the characters are dead too and Ripley's 3 film long struggle for survival was absolutely meaningless
>>223750431It was one of the worst directions they could have taken the series. They could have just done another time skip, another location, with a new cast even and it would have been far better. Blomkamp's movie might not have been good, but he's right that the best idea would be to retcon Alien 3 rather than make a dozen silly prequels.
>>223750431Watch the RLM commentary track for Alien. Jay explains why Alien and Alien 3 are good while Aliens is a piece of shit
>>223750631I don't care what gay perverts think
>>223748719Right.
>>223748719Smartest character in horror. They should have listened to Parker and just gone home to party. Then he gets killed trying to protect the other dummies on the crew
>>223749019Why is every alien in this universe a parasite?
>>223750811Because the creatora are all random people, making up random shit and trying to force things into fit into a decades old series they don't really care about. There are no other aliens in the first two movies which is the reason why it's so crazy interesting to find them. But now Disney just wants to insert their zany Original Content and get an audience to buy their merch so they can stop slopping out the black dick monster
I went to the theaters to see Alien Resurrection with my dad a few months before he died so that's the best one.
probably the biggest "fuck you" to the audience in the history of film
Alien 3 is great and the only thing weighing it down is some of the special effects.People complaining about Hicks and Newt getting killed are plebs.
>>223750228>It also screwed the pooch on deciding to make the alien alter itself based on whatever it impregnated.That wasn't something new. That was from the start the entire point of why the species need to go through the facehugger phase and also why the Xenophorm in 1 is made of an actual (real) human skull.
>>223751465Alien Resurrection was so bad it killed your dad
>>223751767probably
>>223750778He died trying to protect Lambert, of all people. Ash may have been the malevolent mole, but Lambert did literally everything wrong and ruined everything.
>>223748691resurrection is kind of boring
>>223748668It's the most accurate portrayal of Britain. A prison full of sex offenders. The Xeno was Queen Elizabeth.
Fincher is a hack! it was his first movie, and he was a rebel, he wanted to stick it to Fox but they put him in his place. I will never forgive Fincher the Cuck for not finishing MindHunters. Dude is a narcissist.
>>223748733Bishop was a sex doll?!
The directors cut is decent
>>223748668>People hate it for some fucking reasonHave you tried watching it? That will help you understand.
>>223748668well you said it yourselfit's part of series somehowthen there's implications of sort if you watched these fucking moviesalso people don't necessarily hate it>for some fucking reasonfuck off
most iconic shot is the chest burst scene. What kind of fucking idiot do you have to be to think otherwise?
>>223753464we now know you haven't
>>223750164Good post.
>>223748668Because it's fucking boring as shit.Next dumb question OP?
>>223748691Based
>>223748668Manchildren just whined that they killed off the heckin kid offscreen.
>>223750631dumbest post in the dumbest thread on /tv/, which is the dumbest board on 4chan btw. Congratulations retard.
>>223752449Ridley wanted to have the crew all banging each other. Sex was supposed to be very easy between everyone since they were to live together for years isolated out in space. Ripley was supposed to be banging Dallas at the moment and Lambert was supposed to have been with Parker and Brett at various times. Ripley has a removed scene where she's asking Lambert if she was ever with Ash yet since they're suspecting there's something not right about him. So it makes sense Parker would be protective of her
>>223753631>we need to talk about the boinking situation
>>223753631good thing that was cut because that's retarded
