There hasn’t been a good fantasy film since The Lord of the Rings two decades ago
>>223749228the unwillingness to have absolute good fight absolute evil. All Hollywood wants to do is to make morally grey actors
>>223749228I have my complaints about the Jackson LotR films, (although not near as bad as the Jackson Hobbit trilogy) but that was the last time a fantasy film was made by people who genuinely liked and respected the source material and the genre as a whole.Not that that is any guarantee that a film will be good, but the absence of that basic respect is a fairly certain guarantee that a film will be bad. Also, I would marry that negress if she agreed to stay in goblin mode at least 5 days a week.
>>223749228Wildwood is one of the greatest fantasies every created in scope and scale It is scheduled to be released in U.S. theaters on October 23, 2026
>wot if we took this 75 year old fantasy IP and modernised it for lowest common denominator appeal to foids and fags?it's a mystery
Disney:Hexed (Walt Disney Animation Studios) – November 25, 2026Frozen 3 (Walt Disney Animation Studios) – November 24, 2027
>>223749228Game of thrones. The books and the tv show. It was a double whammy.
>>223749330The only complaint I really have that can't be explained away by the necessities of movie making is changing Gandalf confronting the Witch King at the gate.Like I understand why no Tim bombadil and why Gimilo ended up as comic relief but I don't get not having g the witch king do the big revela throwing back his hood to reveal a crown on no head
>>223749355Why is everyone living on 2 hours of sleep???? Is this a thing in the book too?
>>223749330>negressShe's black? Lmfao I really thought she was Jewish when I first watched it
Requires too much practical work
>>223749228Sarasota?
>>223749265>moral complexity is actually le bad because I have a baby brain
>>223749228George FF Martin. He did some damage with his low brow smut on TV, but he was absolute fucking disaster for fantasy publishing behind the scenes.
>>223749228her being the target audience and not me
>>223749505Define a morally complex situation.
>>223749505What progressive subhumans consider to be morally complex characters are always the darkest villains imaginable - Osha Mae, Riri Williams, John Steward etc.
>>223749228women
>>223749228And there hasn't been a good fantasy book since lotr either. Maybe the whole genre is just lotr clones.
>>223749228LOTR was the worst movie I have ever seen, bc I read the book first and it's impossible for a movie to match my imagination.I would say since Pan’s Labyrinth (2006), which was a great flick Since then you had:Stardust (2007) Oz the Great and Powerful (2013)Maleficent (2014)Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children (2016)The Shape of Water (2017)The Green Knight (2021)Wicked (2024)
>>223749505One scene in the extended edition stands out as making The Return of The King worse: the embassy with the Mouth of Sauron. In the book, the purpose of the scene is to show the difference between good and evil in stark. This is undermined in the film by having Aragorn kill the messenger, no matter how deserved or satisfying it is to a big-brained audience that are all about that 'moral complexity'. The book version is morally complex because it argues there are differences, whilst the near-perfect film is spoiled by the morally simplistic reinterpretation. All of the accusations made by Sauron's servant are false, unless they aren't.
>>223749228LotR is the mic drop of fantasy films./thread
>>223749505Most academic philosophers believe in objective moral truth though.Moral relativism isn't actually more complex or difficult, in fact it's easier in a certain sense, because it means you can avoid making harsh judgments of foreign cultures.
>>223749684HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAWhat a small mind
good video on the subjecthttps://youtu.be/pq-HDpqQeSw?si=MmNVzzdu_LeMZGuT
>>223749619Malazan series.
>>223749649Terrible bait
>>223749649Oh, you are a tranny.
>>223749228OP, I looked at a list if fantasy films since 2000 and I was surprised to find that you are pretty much completely right.>Pan's Labyrinth >D&D Honor Among Thieves>Green Knightthese are the only kinda decent films on the list
>>223749265They are still making tons of capeshit, Disney, Pixar, and horror movies but modern audiences often view pure, flawless heroes as unrealistic or boring. Writing a protagonist with internal conflicts, trauma, or questionable ethics makes them feel more human.Then people like stuff likeThe SopranosJohn Wick Breaking BadEtc
>>223749228>There hasn’t been a good fantasy film since The Lord of the Rings two decades agoThere also wasn't one before LOTR
>>223749228Woke ideology. They're scared of fantasy because their tiny brains can't fathom other worldsThe last good series was The Dark Crystal
>>223749505>cowering child orcs being defended by their mothers is le complexity and not completely abandoning the source material
>>223749859Excalibur and Conan are the only two that reached similar heights. Princess Bride is great too but it doesn't take itself seriously enough to make the list. Willow was always overrated.
>>223749873Look at the little tiny pea brain trying to project his little tiny pea brain onl to others
>>223749917There's more to fantasy than 80s Hollywood flicks.
>>223749940I have not had the pleasure of seeing The Ring of the Nibelungs performed live either
Women don't understand fantasy as a genre.
>>223749228Fantasy only works when the people involved take it seriously, and taking anything seriously is uncool now. It's why all these superhero movies have constant quips; the people involved have to broadcast to the audience that they definitely don't care about this nerd junk. You either go grimdark or make everything a quipfest or you're cringe for caring.
I didn't realize Avatar was a whole franchise nowAvatar 4: Scheduled for theatrical release on December 21, 2029 (features a major 6-year time jump)Avatar 5: Scheduled for theatrical release on December 19, 2031 (will see the Na'vi travel to Earth).
>>223749228Your thread is invalid.
>>223749965Watch the silent movies.
>>223750047lol this shit fucking sucked
Baahubali is better than Lord of the Rings
>>223749987This is a bug part of the issue, the Hollywood machine fundamentally doesn't understand it
Blancanieves (known as Blancaneu in Catalan and Snow White in English) is a 2012 black-and-white silent drama film written and directed by Spainard Pablo Berger
>>223750077>2012 black-and-white silent drama filmno excuse for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrFZMS1spqQ
>>223750052I'll have you know I ran a campaign with my step-son and my wife's boyfriend, and the movie replicated the feeling exactly.
Anon really thinks we're going to watch some foreign shit in a wacky oogly boogly language
>>223749228People not understanding what is fantasy. For most people, it's just a vehicle for their political views.
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>>223749228Woman. After hating on everything that is nerdculture for a very long time they collectively decided to join in on it and immediately started to dictate the rules.
>>223749228>What killed the fantasy genre?Don't know. LOTR is still a huge property in spite of Amazon's fuckups, and so is GOT. And there's shitloads of books out there that never got a screenplay adaptation.
>>223750047It's mind boggling how great this movie ended up being
Like a lot of things it was a combinations of things LOtR, harry potter, GoT did influence a lot of fantasy movies in the coming years both by the companies trying to ape the style and trying to not be a direct clone so they use replacement words for common shit like elves and orcs Zombies and Vampies and Modern Military became way more popular in the mid to late 00s that carried on until i guess the 2015sMaybe the biggest thing was the rise of super hero stuff that eclipsed fantasy as a whole and replacing it.Modern producers think they need to go really massive with fantasy stuff or it won't make money so you can't even get low budget stuff anymore.
>>223749228CGIslop will never look good and has destroyed any creativity and self restraint filmmakers used to have when it came to fantasy.Hollywood is an oligarch run propaganda industry and right now the oligarchs are neck deep in demoralization which means all fantasy will not be escapism but propaganda where you will be forced to see multiracial societies where they would not exist and ugly people and a focus on muh grey and gray moralityAll (American) made fantasy from now on will be The Rings of Power.
>>223749873Dark Crystal was peak>>223749924Seethe brown
is black people aware that they look better with any other color but negro color?
>>223749228Fantasy anime is pretty big.
>>223749940I see, you're a fellow coinoisseur of Soviet efforts in this domain
>>223750108ouf...affiche de flim d'horreur
>>223749228>genderbent_shrek.webm
This is casting the net too broadly, fantasy as in a fantastical world separate from out our own.
>>223750389Is this fat gook in alot of movies? are they good? seem to see his face everywhere.
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>>223750713I like pic related. James Wan is working on a remake, in which Don Lee (from the original) will also star.
The only good fantasy on the last 20 years have been anime.>Frieren>Dungeon Meshi>Made in Abyss>Fullmetal Alchemist
>>223749855What people don't get about Breaking Bad (and Better Call Saul) is that those shows do not support "gray morality". Good and evil is black and white in that world, just like in real life. Walter, Mike, Jimmy, Kim, etc. all fool themselves into thinking they can make a balancing act out of it and it blows up in all their faces.
>>223749228dnd becoming mainstream was a disaster
>>223749855those are character-focused tv shows so that's a given, a movie doesn't need all that just to deliver a story
>>223750586Yeah, I'm thinking I'll be watching this.
>>223749228Critical Role killed it
>>223749505is there any proof to morality under atheism though?its all just atoms going into other atoms
>>223749505Why should the theme of the movie be morals? The Last Unicorn has black and white morality, yet the movie is about mortality.
>>223750070Nothing from India is good
>>223750310she has a bunch of rolls on her legs in real life so they phtoshoppoed them out and it looks insane lol
>>223749228is this a Noggoblin?
>>223749526When the whore you're balls deep in suddenly flips on the lights and it turns out it's a tranny. It's 2am and you're starting to sober up and know that you don't have much time before you will be dead tired with a hangover.What do you do, anon?
>>223750887when is skylar punished for adultery?>uhhh i didnt mean ALL morality was black and white in the show! its more realistic to have shades of gray
>>223749651They weren't there to negotiate, they were there to fight. Some dumbass messenger comes out and starts provoking them, no matter the truth of the matter negotiations go wrong for him. This doesn't undermine Aragorn's morality or resolve.Or what, would you rather have Gondor make prisoners of the Uruk officers and invite them to dine and offer them soccer matches in the pow camps?
This was pretty good although I didn't finish it. (I was too drunk)
>>223750070I wouldn’t go that far but they were amazing movies
>>223750171This was warmed up shit
>>223749873dark crystal show was fantastic. i’ll never forgive netflix.
>>223749265is this a troll?>the core of lotr is the moral greyness of how to treat gollum>even orcs get humanizing moments when they discuss things among themselves too
>>223749228Avatar.
>>223749228Multiculturalism, heterogeneity, and globalism. Same thing that killed the adventure genre. Can't show black people with bones piercing their noses, can't show Chinese in opium dens, can't show Indians eating monkey brains. People got it in their head that "barbarian" and "savage" meant "evil" and now refuse to show any wildly strange culture even if they're content and thriving. The orcs have to speak english, the elves have to live in human cities, and the goblins run the shops - and they all adhere to Californian cultural standards.
>>223749505>>223753032Why do retards think that white and black morality means characters are either 100% good or 100% evil instead of acts and deeds being either objectively good or objectively evil?
>>223749355Too long and too ugly, too much Portland no fantasy
>>223749752interesting video, it's kind of what Ursula Le Guin says in From Elfland to Poughkeepsie, basically that the tone of a fantasy story should not be grounded our gritty reality. Of course this doesn't go well with the modern rules of storytelling that put trauma and character complexity and relatability on a pedestal
>>223749228Star Wars prequels were the last good fantasy movies. For some reason now Fantasy = grimdark people quietly whispering in a British accent in a dimly lit room. Doesn't make for something good to watch.
>>223749228Fantasy is actually objectively really hard. Good fantasy comes from effort. People get the impression that it's simple but their products suck.
This applies to scifi too, nowadays everything turns into character studies, trauma peddling and pointless angsty drama. Just look at The 3 body problem and Foundation, they took stories that are about concepts and universe-spanning narratives and made them about the main character's issues and feefees.
>>223750412You had plausible denialbility until this one.Too obvious.
>>223749265fpbp
>>223754341This too.>Let's just have everything be modern>but we'll have swords and shoot it in some woods!
