stephen king lifemogging stanley kubrick
>>223756281On his deathbed he'll say the film was good
god he's so reddit
>>223756281Does he really have nothing better to do than seething at random people calling his novel mid on Xitter?
>>223756281The reason Stephen doesn't like Kubrick's Shining is because Kubrick based Jack on Stephen King himself, unfiltered, and without the sympathy the book gave him.Book Jack is a drug-addled abuser but it's because he's a victim of the ghosts! It's Stephen King excusing his negligence.Movie Jack is a sack of shit from the first frame. He already broke his boy's arm and his wife is already scared of him. The ghosts just saw somebody who fit in. They didn't curse him at all.That infuriated King. Kubrick indicted him.
>>223756325Well his friend Maxwell was a mod there
You mean Richard Bachman, right
you know what they say about stinky buttholesstephen king smells like one!
>>223756370>Book Jack is a drug-addled abuser but it's because he's a victim of the ghosts!the fucking what
>>223756281Jesus the formatting here is fucking shit. "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one."There's no comma in those two distinct sentences. This guy's a fucking English teacher. Jesus Christ.
>>223756281steven king isnt real. jews just put his name on generic horror stories so they dont get sued by randoms who wrote the same story 30 years ago and did nothing with it because its boring generic slop.
>>223756281This is 100% true. Of all the notorious crap that's been made out of his work the one movie he's still seething about is an undisputed classic. Also, The Shining is his most overrated book by far.
>>223756476Book Jack is an alcoholic trying to quit because he's secretly a good guy, but the ghosts made him drink again. He was a self insert showing that King secretly wasn't a bad guy just because he blasted his mind out with every drug he could afford.
>>223756476it's been a while but iirc in the book jack is ultimately treated like a good person but is weak to his vices and the ghosts ultimately take advantage of that in reality he would be considered a piece of shit for being unable to control himself, regardless of whatever sob story he came up with
>>223756511And that's exactly what Kubrick showed. He stripped away all the self-pity and "victim of addiction" shit and showed the overbearing snide asshole he met.
The only version of The Shining I've ever seen is the Simpsons version.
>>223756281Why does he do this? He reminds of another famous author who constantly gets in twitter fights with retards because he has to be right about everything all the time and has to correct the record.and believes his twitter detractors should enjoy prison.
>>223756592terminal boomitis
If I were that guy I'd honestly just respond by posting White Lines by Grandmaster Flash and the excerpt where Jack, King's self-insert, goes on a rant about how he identifies with a child rapist. https://youtu.be/DwRXI-y6M9o
>>223756281stephen king will never be important enough to whack for revealing the secrets of the illuminati to the goyim
>>223756754There's a crazy amount of child porn peppered throughout his career. He stopped at some mafia bit in Dark Tower 3 I think where there was a drawer full of magazines of 10 year old girls making out. Course there's also the library policeman. And the IT gangbang.
>>223756797
The Shining book is very goofy. Danny is 5 but thinks and talk like a teenager. He tells his parents about the shining and that ghosts are trying to get him halfway through the story but nothing really come out of it, they still let him roam around unsupervised and he's almost killed 3 or 4 times. And people probably know about the dumbest scenes with the possessed fire hose, animated hedge animals and dog costume guy from the TV movie.
>>223756281>opinions are like assholes, everyone's got onesays a faggot who doesnt know how to respond
>>223756840Still waiting on the list
>>223756842The book is a clusterfuck. Do we need a subplot about a mob hit and all the other crap you already mentioned?
>>223756895Yeah Jack's investigation on the past of the hotel is ultimately pointless. Also the whole beehive theme/metaphor going on through the story is just bizarre and not spooky at all.
Why would great directors choose to adapt his books if they weren't good?
>>223756965Good books aren't necessarily good source material for movies, if anything the opposite is true. How many masterpieces of literature have been made into classics of cinema? Very few. Instead many of the best movies ever made were adapted from random pulp novels nobody remembers anymore.
>>223756965Name becomes synonymous with quality after a certain point, even after the quality starts declining. Everyone has come to know that "Stephen King is a good writer" so anything he makes is good, because Stephen King is a good writer, remember? He's a good writer, so his stuff has to be good. It's brand recognition.
>>223756281Stephen King books must do something right considering all the sales and adaptations and cultural relevance and whatnot
>>223756326Getting rich/famous and then talking shit to plebs everyday on the internet seems like a peaceful life thoughever
>>223756326He's like 80 that's the perfect age for it
>>223756965His books are good. Or were I don't know I didn't read all of them and certainly not the new ones but the classics are all pretty good. Carrie is probably the weakest but even that has some charm. That being said from the ones I've read only the black tower and It adaptation never surpassed the books, everything else? The movie versions are just better: Carrie, Christine, Shining, Cujo, I would argue the pet sematary from the 90s is also better than the book.
>>223756281>Opinions are like assholes>faggots have the biggest
>>223756281Fuck off he’s like 100 years old and senile
>>223756488I was surprised The Shining was so bad. I've actually liked most of King's stuff that I've read but it's so boring. That's the book of his that Koontz could have written.
>>223757118horsecart situation
>>223756965the stories are very basic and allow much room for creative liberties. also he is easy to deal with unlike real writers who have real ideas.
One thing I liked in The Shining novel that was absent in both adaptions was the child ghost in the playground. Was actually the scariest moment in the book.
>>223756935>beehive theme/metaphorAll I recall of that is how Jack giving him the wasp nest leads to them in the hospital like after he broke his arm and foreshadows him becoming a monster.
>>223757433>The End of the World as We Know ItLol, you own something written by this guy.
>>223759040Imagine owning a book
>>223756797>He stopped at some mafia bit in Dark Tower 3Nope, Hearts in Atlantis released 8 years later in 9 and had a scene where a 12-year old girl gets fingerblasted by a pedo.
>>2237593541999*
>>223756874Are you still waiting on Santa too?
>>223759040I own most of his books and have a Dark Tower related tattoo. You have forgotten the face of your father.
>>223756325boomers are loaded with corny catch phrases and zingers
I have to agree. Whenever king has these stick up his ass responses over specific book adaptations. It’s always because he has a personal attachment to the book in questionFor Carrie, it’s his first published successful book, his wife saved it from the trash. For the shining it’s pretty much about king himsekf. Stephen King is Jack Torrance, the whole story is about addiction, neglecting/abusing your family. The ghosts and hotel represent inner demons etcIt’s why Jack is actually a victim of circumstance in the book, not an inherently abusive man. Changing this in the movie to him always beinf abusive under the surface but barely controlling it is a tacit attack on king himself as far as he is concernedBut king got to make his own adaptation of the shining and it’s sucked so what does he know?
>>223759423Every generation had them. Boomer ones are just cringe and/or crass. I don't remember any in particular but greatest gen had clever ones.
>>223759423>>223759473Sounds like you have a stick up your ass
>>223756324He's literally already said the film was good and he overreacted. Anyone who has actually read the book can understand his reaction, even if the movie is almost objectively better. Jack Torrence is reduced to a complete selfish asshole, basically just an evil person with no redeeming qualities. The wife is turned into an emotional push over who can't tell her husband no. And the son is just a lil baby guy who waddles around the movie being scared. Whereas in the book Jack is a greek tragedy of a man trying and failing to overcome his alcoholism so he doesn't end up like his dad, only to become something worse. The mom has an actual personality beyond being sad and afraid. Danny is a far more proactive character too. >"buh wuh bout duh manta ray at the end?"Anyone who says this is just admitting they know nothing about the book outside a fucking did you know gaming video. The manta ray is a single sentence and is arguably more metaphorical than literal
>70s/80sS+: The ShiningS: The Dead Zone, Creepshow 2, Stand By MeA: Creepshow, Silver Bullet, Christine, The Running Man, Salem's LotB: Carrie, Children of the CornC: Cat's Eye, Pet Sematary, CujoD: Maximum Overdrive, Firestarter>90s:S: Misery, The Shawshank RedemptionA: Dolores Claiborne. The Green Mile, ItB: Tales from the Darkside, Apt Pupil, The Stand, Storm of the CenturyC: Needful ThingsD: Thinner, The Dark Half, The Night Flyer, Golden Years, The Shining, Sometimes They Come BackF: Sleepwalkers, Graveyard Shift, The Lawnmower Man, The Mangler, The Langoliers, The Tommyknockers, Trucks, Quicksilver Highway>00sS:A: 1408, The MistB: Hearts in AtlantisC: Secret Window, Nightmares & DreamscapesD: Rose Red, Desperation, Salem's LotF: Dreamcatcher, Riding the Bullet, Dolan's Cadillac, Carrie, Children of the Corn>10sS: Doctor SleepA: Gerald's Game, 11.22.63B: It Chapter 1, Mr. MercedesC: 1922, Under the DomeD: Carrie, A Good Marriage, It Chapter 2, In the Tall Grass, Haven, The MistF: Cell, Mercy, The Dark Tower, Pet Semetery, Bag of Bones, Big Driver>20sS:A: The Long WalkB: The Life of Chuck, The MonkeyC: The Outsider, Mr. Harrigan's Phone, The Boogeyman, Castle RockD: Lisey's Story, Chapelwaite, Salem's Lot, The Running Man, Welcome to DerryF: Children of the Corn, Firestarter, The StandCarrie: TBD
>>223759526Sounds like you proved my point. Greatest Gen had "stick in the mud" and boomers made it about shoving things up their asses. Gay.
>>223759549Ugly fella.
>>223759526get this hot head outa here!
get your disability checks ready fellas, King is a lolcow now so it's time to make his life miserable
>>223756484I know it’s fashionable around here to be retarded, but you need to at least try a little bit
Carrie gonna be his best novel and it's not even close
If he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. It's originally his work, so he's entitled to that opinion. And without his original work, the movie would not exist. You can shit on King as much as you want, but he's easily one of the most influential authors of the past 100 years (whether or not you think that means anything, of course).
>>223759868if he hadn't written the shining, kubrick would've adapted some other novel and we would've gotten some other 10/10 classic. king is largely irrelevant to the film adaptations of his work, the great ones are by great directors, the shitty ones by shitty directors. a shitty director has never been elevated by King's material.
The movie version of Christine where she's an evil car with a will of her own is so much better than the book where it's just a regular car possessed by the spirit of some dead boomer faggot.
>OOoooOoOoooOo look out danny there's a haunted firehose behind yoooooou>ooOOooooOoooO don't go in the garden jack the topiaries are possessed Bravo Steve
>>223756281I mean hes standing up for his creation, but he knows the movie is better
>>223756965He has good ideas and his books can be a good source of inspiration for creation. As true, whole works of literature, they are abjectly dreadful.
>>223759549I was reading this as a book rating list and was like WTF with the dates. Then it hit me 30 seconds later that I'm on /tv/.SMRT
>>223756281Stephen King likes little kids'! His work of "kids/teens in peril" definitely plays on the Kincaid's soft-normalization of pedophilia -- "Blame the public, not media makers or advertisers for closeted pedophilia; just admit kids are inherently hot, so we don't fake-worry about their safety, & imperfect parenting means sexualizing kids is red herring":>In Erotic Innocence James R. Kincaid explores contemporary America’s preoccupation with stories about the sexual abuse of children. Claiming that our culture has yet to come to terms with the bungled legacy of Victorian sexuality, Kincaid examines how children and images of youth are idealized, fetishized, and eroticized in everyday culture. Evoking the cyclic elements of Gothic narrative, he thoughtfully and convincingly concludes that the only way to break this cycle is to acknowledge—and confront—not only the sensuality of children but the eroticism loaded onto them.>Drawing on a number of wide-ranging and well-publicized cases as well as scandals involving such celebrities as Michael Jackson and Woody Allen, Kincaid looks at issues surrounding children’s testimonies, accusations against priests and day-care centers, and the horrifying yet persistently intriguing rumors of satanic cults and “kiddie porn” rings. In analyzing the particular form of popularity shared by such child stars such Shirley Temple and Macaulay Culkin, he exposes the strategies we have devised to deny our own role in the sexualization of children. Finally, Kincaid reminds us how other forms of abuse inflicted on children—neglect, abandonment, inadequate nutrition, poor education—are often overlooked in favor of the sensationalized sexual abuse coverage in the news, on daytime TV talk shows, and in the elevators and cafeterias of America each day.This bold and critically enlightened book will interest readers across a wide range of disciplines as well as a larger general audience interested in American culture.
>>223756965I think one of the bigger problems is that the stuff he's actually really good at writing doesn't translate well to film. I don't know if there's an actual term for it, but large portions of It, The Tommyknockers, and Salem's Lot are just quick snapshots of things going on around town that may or may not ever intersect with the main plot. The Stand has a similar thing going on where the middle of the book is full of vignettes showing society crumbling and brief stories a few paragraphs long about people who survived the plague dying from random bad luck. I never read The Shining so I have no idea if it has something similar going on.
Is he actually senile?
>>223759540i read the book in high school and i dont remember the manta ray part. the movie is objectively scarier than the book though
all-time twitter account
>>223761111I suspect that's a joke.
>>223759549>they didn't like the shit weasels
>>223756481He also left out the punchline: "...and they all stink." I sometimes wonder if he has a real writer locked in his basement.
>>223756324…and acknowledge 1997 TV miniseries-remake wasn’t really “far superior” or “genuinely terrifying”
>>223756476IIRC book Jack had his own father being an alcoholic, abusive and violent piece of shit and he tried to stop becoming one in turn (he had gotten serious wakeup calls after breaking his son’s arm while drunk, also almost killing another kid while drunk driving) but the ghosts of the Overlook preyed on his demons and made him plunge back.So it’s more like Jack could have been a good man, he WANTED to be a good man and a good husband and a good father, but he went to the worst place possible and was too weak to handle it. It doesn’t excuse what he did.
>>223756874https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbTF-csBsOA
For me it's his slurring drunken Maximum Overdrive trailer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWMy-QQNbw
>>223761986yeah, King loves his schmaltz, and Kubrick hates schmaltz, so Kubrick was never going to make anything King could connect with. there's no mystery why King gets along with Mike Flanagan so well, and I'm sure if he could make Kubrick's Shining more like a Flanagan picture, King would love it.>>223762074I want to use Pam Bondi's face as a sperm toilet.
>>223761349King must be part of the woke right
>>223756484go on....
>>223761934>I sometimes wonder if he has a real writer locked in his basement.would be a good storyher name? Stephanie Queen
>Roland and Jake jump to Maine of 1999 along with Oy to save the life of Stephen King (who is a character in the book); the ka-tet have come to believe that the success of their quest depends on King surviving to write about it through his books. They discover King about to be hit by a van. Jake pushes King out of the way, getting killed in the process.There's rock bottom and then there's this.
>>223756281Interesting how Stephen King writes pedo shit while Kubrick made an anti pedo movie
>>223762455multiple anti pedo movies
>>223756281Pedo King has his ego bigger than the Universe. He's literally crying and throwing things around if he reads an opinion by someone recognizable enough, which points out that he's both a hack, shit writer and a disgusting "human" being.
>>223756281King is all fluff and no substance, every single adaptation of his garbage books is better than the source material.
>>223756965they have good premises that can easily be condensed into 95 page scripts. the writing itself is nothing special. people like his stories more so than his writing style which is childish in my opinion.
>>223762447King is proof that enough monkeys on typewriters will eventually create Shakespeare. He’s clearly a fucking moron, as seen by the fact that he hates the best adaptations of his work and praises the worst, or things like this, or reading any of his tweets for the past decade. But he just kept doing coke and writing and some of it came out pretty good.
>>223762698well he had one book become great (Dark Tower) and ruined it with some weird white boomer racist/not-racist shit about some black woman from the South shouting "Awwww lawdy"
>>223756481What's the proper form? A period and new sentance, colon or dash? Honest question.
>>223756481>There's no comma in those two distinct sentences.Yes there are.
>>223756874Good luck. Feds are zog faggots.
>>223756535Then you saw the Shinning and that’s something completely different.
>>223756965Because there's profitable stories buried under a lot of bullshit. King has diarrhea of the fingertips.
>>223756281they way king has been bitching lately has got me kinda curious, what do most people know stephen king from?>films/tv based on his work>read his books>mixture of bothme, i've only read 2 books by king, but i've seen around 30 films/tv based on his work
>>223756370Quite plausible. Read the Library Policeman.
I thought after Doctor Sleep he made peace with Kubrick, since that movie was primarily based on Stanley's version of The Shining and King presumably had to sign off on it.
>>223756370I can't even watch the movie anymore. Jack is basically my psychotic brother (who hears voices).
Silent Hill 2 directed by Stanley Kubrick:There's no pyramid head. James is just a psycho played by Jim Carrey and Maria is an innocent woman trying to escape him.
>>223763065This entire schizo theory hinges on looking at this costume and saying it’s a bear when it literally looks like a jowly dog and based on the two faggots from the book
I wonder if he actually ever gets writer's block?https://youtu.be/sd7a2sS5AjM
>>223759040I saw Chuck Wendig on a panel of writers at a convention and he was actually pretty funny, and not a dick.
>>223756325Well, you know what they say--opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.
>>223763269apparently you can just do coke until you beat whatever creative block you have to death. sitting next to stephen king on coke at a party must have been fucking unbearable.
>>223757092Books and movies really do things differently. In a movie, a scene can be 2 minutes long, but the same scene in a book can be a whole chapter. Or flipped where a book has a short section but to show it in a movie takes 15 minutes.
>>223759768Not even close
>>223759549Pretty solid list. I'd rate It chapter 2 a bit higher, it's not as strong as the first, but it's not bad. I personally liked The Mist, but I can see someone disliking it, it's often more frustrating than anything else. And Maximum Overdrive is really it's own thing. It's a campy movie and really bad, but its so bad its good. It flips around. The AC/DC soundtrack, the silliness of giving them gas, it's.... dumb, but it's fun dumb.
>>223756481>Opinion are like assholes. Everybody got one.What are you smoking
>>223756481Anon...the comma separates the part of sentence that elaborates on the implied meaning of the beginning.A comma definitely belongs there, perhaps you should go back and retake middle school English.
>>223759768Nah that’s The Dead Zone
>>223756840I wish he'd stay off twitterTired of realizing everyone I respected when I was a kid is just as retarded and ignorant as me
>>223756325>god he's so reddit
>>223763210Jack was a child molester. Watch it again- it’s obvious.
I will order pizza when this faggot retard dies.
>>223763767Not true, Stephen King is a based white nationalist hiding his power level in liberal Maine. Good luck finding the original unedited phone call! It’s out there.
>>223763854Make sure to play dominoes on pasta, we wouldn’t want to change long standing traditions and suddenly get a pleasing (but unexpected) hot dog pasta with jerky.
>>223756281It's so funny to see boomers argue with random shitposts on twitter.
>>223756965Outside of Kubrick and Carpenter, maybe Reiner, who are the other great directors? Flanagan fucking sucks. Is the Mist director actually "great," Green Mile is peak boomer slop. Creepshow was a split with Romero, basically their TFtC. The crazy thing about King is how he mastered the easiest part of horror, the entry point, his titles alone usually boil down to the very essence of the book. The best Halloween costumes are the ones your brain fully registers in a second. The same with King's books. Yet so few horror authors if any mastered this first step. So if you're a director, this is the appeal, you have the best of outlines to color in, to the extent that King's name is an outline itself, which secures commercial appeal and ensures security that it will get made, widely released and circulate for decades. I'll never understand why so many horror writers do not create a simple clear jumping off point. A cursed car. A cursed resort. Cursed pet cemetery. Cursed clown. Cursed bullied teen. Cursed lake blob. A cursed teen body in the woods. Cursed rabid dog. Now do this for Koontz or Barker or much much later, Grady Hendrix. You can't.
>>223763976don't forget De Palma
>>223763976De PalmaTobe HooperKubrickCronenbergCarpenterReinerRomeropretty good lineup
>>223757118My earliest vacation memory was in a grocery store with senpai getting VA beach supplies. It was the first I had seen that had books. My sister was looking at a shelf of books, it was half King. At the register was a turn rack of books, it was literally all King and there was a magazine with his face on the cover. My mom even commented how stupid it was. That's how I became obsessed.
>>223759423based
>>223759446Most addicts are pieces of shit even without their drugs or booze. Kubrick was right in portraying Jack as a bad man whose violent impulses are innate to him and the alcohol only brings them to the surface, it doesn't create them. King's woe is me approach to this character should rightfully be mocked.
>>223759549nope. night flier is a tier. must watch
>>223759354I don't remember that scene.
>>223764077Yeah it’s breddy gud
The best and most most faithful adaptation of his work was The Stand (1992).
>>223756370Shining book vs movie is the worksafe almost comfy distillation between wasp and jew
>>223764175I remember when Covid started jewtube released it free online.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7sI5tP9veQ
>>223761986How profound is it that >Hotel California album released December 1976 >Hotel California single released February 1977 >The Shining was published January 1977 Boomers never recovered
>>223764008>>223763983All of those were 30-40+ years ago
>>223764395what the fuck does that have to do with anything you fucking faggot, that's not what you asked about you fucking mooncricket
>>223759549No way you put creepshow 2 above 1 and pet semetary at c tier below shit like children of the corn
>>223763838No, this is in fact not obvious. Someone came 20+ years after the release of The Shining with a high quality home video copy and pointed it out. If anything, it was an in joke when they were filming the movie
>>223764408children of the corn sucks but pet sematary isn't much better. I think people have a lot of nostalgia for it, but the third act is genuinely unwatchable, you can't make a toddler as the villain work on screen. Even the newer adaption knew this (but still fucked up in a million different ways)
