>>223756281
On his deathbed he'll say the film was good

god he's so reddit

>>223756281
Does he really have nothing better to do than seething at random people calling his novel mid on Xitter?

>>223756281
The reason Stephen doesn't like Kubrick's Shining is because Kubrick based Jack on Stephen King himself, unfiltered, and without the sympathy the book gave him.
Book Jack is a drug-addled abuser but it's because he's a victim of the ghosts! It's Stephen King excusing his negligence.
Movie Jack is a sack of shit from the first frame. He already broke his boy's arm and his wife is already scared of him. The ghosts just saw somebody who fit in. They didn't curse him at all.
That infuriated King. Kubrick indicted him.

>>223756325
Well his friend Maxwell was a mod there

You mean Richard Bachman, right

you know what they say about stinky buttholes

stephen king smells like one!

>>223756370
>Book Jack is a drug-addled abuser but it's because he's a victim of the ghosts!
the fucking what

>>223756281
Jesus the formatting here is fucking shit. "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one."
There's no comma in those two distinct sentences. This guy's a fucking English teacher. Jesus Christ.

>>223756281
steven king isnt real. jews just put his name on generic horror stories so they dont get sued by randoms who wrote the same story 30 years ago and did nothing with it because its boring generic slop.

>>223756281
This is 100% true. Of all the notorious crap that's been made out of his work the one movie he's still seething about is an undisputed classic. Also, The Shining is his most overrated book by far.

>>223756476
Book Jack is an alcoholic trying to quit because he's secretly a good guy, but the ghosts made him drink again. He was a self insert showing that King secretly wasn't a bad guy just because he blasted his mind out with every drug he could afford.

>>223756476
it's been a while but iirc in the book jack is ultimately treated like a good person but is weak to his vices and the ghosts ultimately take advantage of that
in reality he would be considered a piece of shit for being unable to control himself, regardless of whatever sob story he came up with

>>223756511
And that's exactly what Kubrick showed. He stripped away all the self-pity and "victim of addiction" shit and showed the overbearing snide asshole he met.

The only version of The Shining I've ever seen is the Simpsons version.

>>223756281
Why does he do this? He reminds of another famous author who constantly gets in twitter fights with retards because he has to be right about everything all the time and has to correct the record.and believes his twitter detractors should enjoy prison.

>>223756592
terminal boomitis

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If I were that guy I'd honestly just respond by posting White Lines by Grandmaster Flash and the excerpt where Jack, King's self-insert, goes on a rant about how he identifies with a child rapist.

https://youtu.be/DwRXI-y6M9o

>>223756281
stephen king will never be important enough to whack for revealing the secrets of the illuminati to the goyim

>>223756754
There's a crazy amount of child porn peppered throughout his career. He stopped at some mafia bit in Dark Tower 3 I think where there was a drawer full of magazines of 10 year old girls making out.
Course there's also the library policeman.
And the IT gangbang.

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>>223756797

The Shining book is very goofy. Danny is 5 but thinks and talk like a teenager. He tells his parents about the shining and that ghosts are trying to get him halfway through the story but nothing really come out of it, they still let him roam around unsupervised and he's almost killed 3 or 4 times. And people probably know about the dumbest scenes with the possessed fire hose, animated hedge animals and dog costume guy from the TV movie.

>>223756281
>opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one
says a faggot who doesnt know how to respond

>>223756840
Still waiting on the list

>>223756842
The book is a clusterfuck. Do we need a subplot about a mob hit and all the other crap you already mentioned?

>>223756895
Yeah Jack's investigation on the past of the hotel is ultimately pointless.
Also the whole beehive theme/metaphor going on through the story is just bizarre and not spooky at all.

Why would great directors choose to adapt his books if they weren't good?

>>223756965
Good books aren't necessarily good source material for movies, if anything the opposite is true. How many masterpieces of literature have been made into classics of cinema? Very few. Instead many of the best movies ever made were adapted from random pulp novels nobody remembers anymore.

>>223756965
Name becomes synonymous with quality after a certain point, even after the quality starts declining. Everyone has come to know that "Stephen King is a good writer" so anything he makes is good, because Stephen King is a good writer, remember? He's a good writer, so his stuff has to be good. It's brand recognition.

>>223756281
Stephen King books must do something right considering all the sales and adaptations and cultural relevance and whatnot

>>223756326
Getting rich/famous and then talking shit to plebs everyday on the internet seems like a peaceful life thoughever

>>223756326
He's like 80 that's the perfect age for it

>>223756965
His books are good. Or were I don't know I didn't read all of them and certainly not the new ones but the classics are all pretty good. Carrie is probably the weakest but even that has some charm. That being said from the ones I've read only the black tower and It adaptation never surpassed the books, everything else? The movie versions are just better: Carrie, Christine, Shining, Cujo, I would argue the pet sematary from the 90s is also better than the book.

>>223756281
>Opinions are like assholes
>faggots have the biggest

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>>223756281
Fuck off he’s like 100 years old and senile

>>223756488
I was surprised The Shining was so bad. I've actually liked most of King's stuff that I've read but it's so boring. That's the book of his that Koontz could have written.

>>223757118
horsecart situation

>>223756965
the stories are very basic and allow much room for creative liberties. also he is easy to deal with unlike real writers who have real ideas.

One thing I liked in The Shining novel that was absent in both adaptions was the child ghost in the playground. Was actually the scariest moment in the book.

>>223756935
>beehive theme/metaphor
All I recall of that is how Jack giving him the wasp nest leads to them in the hospital like after he broke his arm and foreshadows him becoming a monster.

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>>223757433
>The End of the World as We Know It
Lol, you own something written by this guy.

>>223759040
Imagine owning a book

>>223756797
>He stopped at some mafia bit in Dark Tower 3
Nope, Hearts in Atlantis released 8 years later in 9 and had a scene where a 12-year old girl gets fingerblasted by a pedo.

>>223759354
1999*

>>223756874
Are you still waiting on Santa too?

>>223759040
I own most of his books and have a Dark Tower related tattoo.

You have forgotten the face of your father.

>>223756325
boomers are loaded with corny catch phrases and zingers

I have to agree. Whenever king has these stick up his ass responses over specific book adaptations. It’s always because he has a personal attachment to the book in question

For Carrie, it’s his first published successful book, his wife saved it from the trash.

For the shining it’s pretty much about king himsekf. Stephen King is Jack Torrance, the whole story is about addiction, neglecting/abusing your family. The ghosts and hotel represent inner demons etc

It’s why Jack is actually a victim of circumstance in the book, not an inherently abusive man. Changing this in the movie to him always beinf abusive under the surface but barely controlling it is a tacit attack on king himself as far as he is concerned

But king got to make his own adaptation of the shining and it’s sucked so what does he know?

>>223759423
Every generation had them. Boomer ones are just cringe and/or crass. I don't remember any in particular but greatest gen had clever ones.

>>223759423
>>223759473
Sounds like you have a stick up your ass

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>>223756324
He's literally already said the film was good and he overreacted.
Anyone who has actually read the book can understand his reaction, even if the movie is almost objectively better. Jack Torrence is reduced to a complete selfish asshole, basically just an evil person with no redeeming qualities. The wife is turned into an emotional push over who can't tell her husband no. And the son is just a lil baby guy who waddles around the movie being scared. Whereas in the book Jack is a greek tragedy of a man trying and failing to overcome his alcoholism so he doesn't end up like his dad, only to become something worse. The mom has an actual personality beyond being sad and afraid. Danny is a far more proactive character too.
>"buh wuh bout duh manta ray at the end?"
Anyone who says this is just admitting they know nothing about the book outside a fucking did you know gaming video. The manta ray is a single sentence and is arguably more metaphorical than literal

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>70s/80s
S+: The Shining
S: The Dead Zone, Creepshow 2, Stand By Me
A: Creepshow, Silver Bullet, Christine, The Running Man, Salem's Lot
B: Carrie, Children of the Corn
C: Cat's Eye, Pet Sematary, Cujo
D: Maximum Overdrive, Firestarter

>90s:
S: Misery, The Shawshank Redemption
A: Dolores Claiborne. The Green Mile, It
B: Tales from the Darkside, Apt Pupil, The Stand, Storm of the Century
C: Needful Things
D: Thinner, The Dark Half, The Night Flyer, Golden Years, The Shining, Sometimes They Come Back
F: Sleepwalkers, Graveyard Shift, The Lawnmower Man, The Mangler, The Langoliers, The Tommyknockers, Trucks, Quicksilver Highway

>00s
S:
A: 1408, The Mist
B: Hearts in Atlantis
C: Secret Window, Nightmares & Dreamscapes
D: Rose Red, Desperation, Salem's Lot
F: Dreamcatcher, Riding the Bullet, Dolan's Cadillac, Carrie, Children of the Corn

>10s
S: Doctor Sleep
A: Gerald's Game, 11.22.63
B: It Chapter 1, Mr. Mercedes
C: 1922, Under the Dome
D: Carrie, A Good Marriage, It Chapter 2, In the Tall Grass, Haven, The Mist
F: Cell, Mercy, The Dark Tower, Pet Semetery, Bag of Bones, Big Driver

>20s
S:
A: The Long Walk
B: The Life of Chuck, The Monkey
C: The Outsider, Mr. Harrigan's Phone, The Boogeyman, Castle Rock
D: Lisey's Story, Chapelwaite, Salem's Lot, The Running Man, Welcome to Derry
F: Children of the Corn, Firestarter, The Stand

Carrie: TBD

>>223759526
Sounds like you proved my point. Greatest Gen had "stick in the mud" and boomers made it about shoving things up their asses. Gay.

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>>223759549
Ugly fella.

>>223759526
get this hot head outa here!

get your disability checks ready fellas, King is a lolcow now so it's time to make his life miserable

>>223756484
I know it’s fashionable around here to be retarded, but you need to at least try a little bit

Carrie gonna be his best novel and it's not even close

If he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. It's originally his work, so he's entitled to that opinion. And without his original work, the movie would not exist.
You can shit on King as much as you want, but he's easily one of the most influential authors of the past 100 years (whether or not you think that means anything, of course).

>>223759868
if he hadn't written the shining, kubrick would've adapted some other novel and we would've gotten some other 10/10 classic. king is largely irrelevant to the film adaptations of his work, the great ones are by great directors, the shitty ones by shitty directors. a shitty director has never been elevated by King's material.

The movie version of Christine where she's an evil car with a will of her own is so much better than the book where it's just a regular car possessed by the spirit of some dead boomer faggot.

>OOoooOoOoooOo look out danny there's a haunted firehose behind yoooooou
>ooOOooooOoooO don't go in the garden jack the topiaries are possessed
Bravo Steve

>>223756281
I mean hes standing up for his creation, but he knows the movie is better

>>223756965
He has good ideas and his books can be a good source of inspiration for creation. As true, whole works of literature, they are abjectly dreadful.

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>>223759549
I was reading this as a book rating list and was like WTF with the dates. Then it hit me 30 seconds later that I'm on /tv/.
SMRT

>>223756281
Stephen King likes little kids'!

His work of "kids/teens in peril" definitely plays on the Kincaid's soft-normalization of pedophilia -- "Blame the public, not media makers or advertisers for closeted pedophilia; just admit kids are inherently hot, so we don't fake-worry about their safety, & imperfect parenting means sexualizing kids is red herring":

>In Erotic Innocence James R. Kincaid explores contemporary America’s preoccupation with stories about the sexual abuse of children. Claiming that our culture has yet to come to terms with the bungled legacy of Victorian sexuality, Kincaid examines how children and images of youth are idealized, fetishized, and eroticized in everyday culture. Evoking the cyclic elements of Gothic narrative, he thoughtfully and convincingly concludes that the only way to break this cycle is to acknowledge—and confront—not only the sensuality of children but the eroticism loaded onto them.
>Drawing on a number of wide-ranging and well-publicized cases as well as scandals involving such celebrities as Michael Jackson and Woody Allen, Kincaid looks at issues surrounding children’s testimonies, accusations against priests and day-care centers, and the horrifying yet persistently intriguing rumors of satanic cults and “kiddie porn” rings. In analyzing the particular form of popularity shared by such child stars such Shirley Temple and Macaulay Culkin, he exposes the strategies we have devised to deny our own role in the sexualization of children. Finally, Kincaid reminds us how other forms of abuse inflicted on children—neglect, abandonment, inadequate nutrition, poor education—are often overlooked in favor of the sensationalized sexual abuse coverage in the news, on daytime TV talk shows, and in the elevators and cafeterias of America each day.
This bold and critically enlightened book will interest readers across a wide range of disciplines as well as a larger general audience interested in American culture.

>>223756965
I think one of the bigger problems is that the stuff he's actually really good at writing doesn't translate well to film. I don't know if there's an actual term for it, but large portions of It, The Tommyknockers, and Salem's Lot are just quick snapshots of things going on around town that may or may not ever intersect with the main plot. The Stand has a similar thing going on where the middle of the book is full of vignettes showing society crumbling and brief stories a few paragraphs long about people who survived the plague dying from random bad luck. I never read The Shining so I have no idea if it has something similar going on.

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Is he actually senile?

>>223759540
i read the book in high school and i dont remember the manta ray part. the movie is objectively scarier than the book though

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all-time twitter account

>>223761111
I suspect that's a joke.

>>223759549
>they didn't like the shit weasels

>>223756481
He also left out the punchline: "...and they all stink." I sometimes wonder if he has a real writer locked in his basement.

>>223756324
…and acknowledge 1997 TV miniseries-remake wasn’t really “far superior” or “genuinely terrifying”

>>223756476
IIRC book Jack had his own father being an alcoholic, abusive and violent piece of shit and he tried to stop becoming one in turn (he had gotten serious wakeup calls after breaking his son’s arm while drunk, also almost killing another kid while drunk driving) but the ghosts of the Overlook preyed on his demons and made him plunge back.

So it’s more like Jack could have been a good man, he WANTED to be a good man and a good husband and a good father, but he went to the worst place possible and was too weak to handle it. It doesn’t excuse what he did.

>>223756874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbTF-csBsOA

For me it's his slurring drunken Maximum Overdrive trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWMy-QQNbw

>>223761986
yeah, King loves his schmaltz, and Kubrick hates schmaltz, so Kubrick was never going to make anything King could connect with. there's no mystery why King gets along with Mike Flanagan so well, and I'm sure if he could make Kubrick's Shining more like a Flanagan picture, King would love it.
>>223762074
I want to use Pam Bondi's face as a sperm toilet.

>>223761349
King must be part of the woke right

>>223756484
go on....

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>>223761934
>I sometimes wonder if he has a real writer locked in his basement.

would be a good story

her name? Stephanie Queen

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>Roland and Jake jump to Maine of 1999 along with Oy to save the life of Stephen King (who is a character in the book); the ka-tet have come to believe that the success of their quest depends on King surviving to write about it through his books. They discover King about to be hit by a van. Jake pushes King out of the way, getting killed in the process.

There's rock bottom and then there's this.

>>223756281
Interesting how Stephen King writes pedo shit while Kubrick made an anti pedo movie

>>223762455
multiple anti pedo movies

>>223756281
Pedo King has his ego bigger than the Universe. He's literally crying and throwing things around if he reads an opinion by someone recognizable enough, which points out that he's both a hack, shit writer and a disgusting "human" being.

>>223756281
King is all fluff and no substance, every single adaptation of his garbage books is better than the source material.

>>223756965
they have good premises that can easily be condensed into 95 page scripts. the writing itself is nothing special. people like his stories more so than his writing style which is childish in my opinion.

>>223762447
King is proof that enough monkeys on typewriters will eventually create Shakespeare. He’s clearly a fucking moron, as seen by the fact that he hates the best adaptations of his work and praises the worst, or things like this, or reading any of his tweets for the past decade. But he just kept doing coke and writing and some of it came out pretty good.

>>223762698
well he had one book become great (Dark Tower) and ruined it with some weird white boomer racist/not-racist shit about some black woman from the South shouting "Awwww lawdy"

>>223756481
What's the proper form? A period and new sentance, colon or dash? Honest question.

>>223756481
>There's no comma in those two distinct sentences.

Yes there are.

>>223756874
Good luck. Feds are zog faggots.

>>223756535
Then you saw the Shinning and that’s something completely different.

>>223756965
Because there's profitable stories buried under a lot of bullshit. King has diarrhea of the fingertips.

>>223756281
they way king has been bitching lately has got me kinda curious, what do most people know stephen king from?
>films/tv based on his work
>read his books
>mixture of both
me, i've only read 2 books by king, but i've seen around 30 films/tv based on his work

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>>223756370
Quite plausible. Read the Library Policeman.

I thought after Doctor Sleep he made peace with Kubrick, since that movie was primarily based on Stanley's version of The Shining and King presumably had to sign off on it.

>>223756370
I can't even watch the movie anymore. Jack is basically my psychotic brother (who hears voices).

Silent Hill 2 directed by Stanley Kubrick:
There's no pyramid head. James is just a psycho played by Jim Carrey and Maria is an innocent woman trying to escape him.

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>>223763065
This entire schizo theory hinges on looking at this costume and saying it’s a bear when it literally looks like a jowly dog and based on the two faggots from the book

I wonder if he actually ever gets writer's block?

https://youtu.be/sd7a2sS5AjM

>>223759040
I saw Chuck Wendig on a panel of writers at a convention and he was actually pretty funny, and not a dick.

>>223756325
Well, you know what they say--opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

>>223763269
apparently you can just do coke until you beat whatever creative block you have to death.

sitting next to stephen king on coke at a party must have been fucking unbearable.

>>223757092
Books and movies really do things differently. In a movie, a scene can be 2 minutes long, but the same scene in a book can be a whole chapter. Or flipped where a book has a short section but to show it in a movie takes 15 minutes.

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>>223759768
Not even close

>>223759549
Pretty solid list. I'd rate It chapter 2 a bit higher, it's not as strong as the first, but it's not bad. I personally liked The Mist, but I can see someone disliking it, it's often more frustrating than anything else.

And Maximum Overdrive is really it's own thing. It's a campy movie and really bad, but its so bad its good. It flips around. The AC/DC soundtrack, the silliness of giving them gas, it's.... dumb, but it's fun dumb.

>>223756481
>Opinion are like assholes. Everybody got one.
What are you smoking

>>223756481
Anon...the comma separates the part of sentence that elaborates on the implied meaning of the beginning.
A comma definitely belongs there, perhaps you should go back and retake middle school English.

>>223759768
Nah that’s The Dead Zone

>>223756840
I wish he'd stay off twitter

Tired of realizing everyone I respected when I was a kid is just as retarded and ignorant as me

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>>223756325
>god he's so reddit

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>>223763210
Jack was a child molester. Watch it again- it’s obvious.

I will order pizza when this faggot retard dies.

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>>223763767
Not true, Stephen King is a based white nationalist hiding his power level in liberal Maine.
Good luck finding the original unedited phone call! It’s out there.

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>>223763854
Make sure to play dominoes on pasta, we wouldn’t want to change long standing traditions and suddenly get a pleasing (but unexpected) hot dog pasta with jerky.

>>223756281
It's so funny to see boomers argue with random shitposts on twitter.

>>223756965
Outside of Kubrick and Carpenter, maybe Reiner, who are the other great directors? Flanagan fucking sucks. Is the Mist director actually "great," Green Mile is peak boomer slop. Creepshow was a split with Romero, basically their TFtC. The crazy thing about King is how he mastered the easiest part of horror, the entry point, his titles alone usually boil down to the very essence of the book. The best Halloween costumes are the ones your brain fully registers in a second. The same with King's books. Yet so few horror authors if any mastered this first step. So if you're a director, this is the appeal, you have the best of outlines to color in, to the extent that King's name is an outline itself, which secures commercial appeal and ensures security that it will get made, widely released and circulate for decades. I'll never understand why so many horror writers do not create a simple clear jumping off point. A cursed car. A cursed resort. Cursed pet cemetery. Cursed clown. Cursed bullied teen. Cursed lake blob. A cursed teen body in the woods. Cursed rabid dog. Now do this for Koontz or Barker or much much later, Grady Hendrix. You can't.

>>223763976
don't forget De Palma

>>223763976
De Palma
Tobe Hooper
Kubrick
Cronenberg
Carpenter
Reiner
Romero
pretty good lineup

>>223757118
My earliest vacation memory was in a grocery store with senpai getting VA beach supplies. It was the first I had seen that had books. My sister was looking at a shelf of books, it was half King. At the register was a turn rack of books, it was literally all King and there was a magazine with his face on the cover. My mom even commented how stupid it was. That's how I became obsessed.

>>223759423
based

>>223759446
Most addicts are pieces of shit even without their drugs or booze. Kubrick was right in portraying Jack as a bad man whose violent impulses are innate to him and the alcohol only brings them to the surface, it doesn't create them. King's woe is me approach to this character should rightfully be mocked.

>>223759549
nope. night flier is a tier. must watch

>>223759354
I don't remember that scene.

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>>223764077
Yeah it’s breddy gud

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The best and most most faithful adaptation of his work was The Stand (1992).

>>223756370
Shining book vs movie is the worksafe almost comfy distillation between wasp and jew

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>>223764175
I remember when Covid started jewtube released it free online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7sI5tP9veQ

>>223761986
How profound is it that
>Hotel California album released December 1976
>Hotel California single released February 1977
>The Shining was published January 1977

Boomers never recovered

>>223764008
>>223763983
All of those were 30-40+ years ago

>>223764395
what the fuck does that have to do with anything you fucking faggot, that's not what you asked about you fucking mooncricket

>>223759549
No way you put creepshow 2 above 1 and pet semetary at c tier below shit like children of the corn

>>223763838
No, this is in fact not obvious. Someone came 20+ years after the release of The Shining with a high quality home video copy and pointed it out. If anything, it was an in joke when they were filming the movie

>>223764408
children of the corn sucks but pet sematary isn't much better. I think people have a lot of nostalgia for it, but the third act is genuinely unwatchable, you can't make a toddler as the villain work on screen. Even the newer adaption knew this (but still fucked up in a million different ways)

>>223756281
Does King actually keep insisting the movie is bad or, more sensibly, that he's quite attached to the source material he wrote so he wasn't able to come around to digging the film?

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>>223764433
>33 digits
In theater versions audiences would have seen it, as for it being a joke during the filming, there was no humor found during the shoot.

>>223764514
I just saw The Shining in a theater a week ago and there's no chance in fuck anybody would've been able to read that magazine cover. I've seen the movie in fucking IMAX and you wouldn't catch it there either.

>>223764496
He's always hated Kubrick's version. That's why he got the shitty miniseries made.

It's funny since The Shining film was critically panned at the time, so King must have felt great shitting on it publicly with everyone on his side. But over the years Kubrick was vindicated, the movie was elevated to masterpiece status and nowadays it's the only version of the story anyone remembers, so King's smug dismissal of it just feels like the impotent seething of a hack.

>>223756370
Book Jack is an unreliable narrator when he’s talking about losing his job, and he didn’t he run over a kid on a bike?

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>Anon... you WERE the moderator here.

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>>223764527
I was there and saw it. You weren’t even paying attention.

>>223764606
It's now forgotten how the True Detective director declined S2 because he was afforded his choice of any project, he chose to direct an R-rated 2 part faithful adaptation of It. King was highly supportive as a fan of TD. Then he told the press his goal was to make a movie far scarier than Kubrick's The Shining. He was quickly replaced, his scripts were tossed, we received the Stranger Things shit meal that pandered to jump scare obese hispanics. In retrospect a severe downturn for Hollywood horror that hasn't slowed until Longlegs and Obsession.

>>223764474
Pet Sematary is among the best due to how skillfully yet effortlessly it translates the tone and look of vintage King. PS ranks neath only Stand By Me in regard to aesthetic translation, Misery is superb with the drama and tension but its aesthetic transference is a few degrees too arch or theatric. PS deserves its merits, writing off its solid reputation to nostalgia gaze is baby brained, what's more PS is regarded as King's darkest by King himself, that the movie meets the doom chill yet retains the comfy afternoon stroll of vintage King must be noted itt.