Orientalism 101
>>223775824>when the most bluepilled woke shit isn't bluepilled and woke enough anymorelollmao
western people are the only people who are upset when western people dress like eastern people
Dadabhoy dabbing on you orientalists!
>>223775835The left always eats its own
>>223775824Isn't that the point? They're not natives
>>223775824>it's fiction, sweaty, it doesn't need to be historically accurate
>>223775869Yeah, literally.the irony of it all is they then cast that nasty nigra mutt as chani instead of some arab, ironically the other girl would have been a perfect casting.
>>223775866true
>>223775824they also implied a Spanish heritage for the Atreidesbut Timmy looks like that, soooooooo
>>223775824I unironically sincerely love the Dune movies and think they’re some of the best epics of this generationYes I read the first few books tooDenis adapting them is a dream come true
>>223775824As if Islam invented any of their aesthetics and didn't just steal them wholesale from the Christian Arabs 1500 years ago
>>223775981I don't think Christian arabs were shaving their pubes to better resemble children.
>>223775981well people like to forget that christianity was the major religion back then until you hit iran. it seems to mess with their worldview.
>>223775981Stole a fuckton from Zoroastrian Persia and Byzantium. Muzzies don't really have any original ideas. The whole religion is a pedophilic coomer self-insert fanfic of Christianity.
>they are seething over islam again
>>223776068Ironic, given that Christianity is itself a fanfic of Judaism
>>223775824There wouldn't've been a second movie if they only used semites.
>>223776201It's a good fanfic written by Greek chuds, not a gay self-insert OOC pedofic written by illiterate Ar*bs
>>223775981>>223776035>>223776068Christianity was Not widespread in Arabia, so much so that Jews had greater prevelance in the Land and even had their Own City, Yathrib which became Medina after the Prophet obtained it and subjugated the Jews, even the Concept of Prophethood had to be explained to the Arabs as this was a foreign conceptVeiling was Not common among the Arab pagans, it was something new like much of the Shari'ah which was revealed incrimentally,Lastly, this argument is redundant to make as a christchck since the few moral laws you haven't abandoned are based on the OT, your religion is Worshipping a dead Jewish stickman.
>>223776234Are you an actual muzzoid zuttcuck? kek
>>223775824Good point. In the future, whenever a brownoid bathes, I'll call it White aesthetics without Whites.
>>223775824well yeah, its from 1963 or something what did you expect?>>223776032kek
It was obvious from the start>white savior atreides boy saving the dumb arab desert peoplepart of american geopolitic propaganda
>>223776260She capitalized prophet to refer to the pedo warlord. Of course she's all zutted out.
>>223776032desert peoples actually did that quite a lot. nothing to do with 'resembling children' and everything to do with 'it's really fucking hot'. egyptians of both sexes removed all body hair regularly and those haircuts you see in egytpian carvings are typically wigs.
>>223775961Retard thinks Spanish heritage only means being Latino.
>>223775824Now, get this as it might seem wild, the book actually explains the aesthetic in the future on that world as descended from those cultures. It's crazy I know that the movie might follow the books. I know it is insane to expect someone in the 21st century to know what the fuck they are talking about before unloading their "It would be better that I rope myself" opinion online.
>>223775824>Arab is when people live in the desert on another planet in the year 9000
>>223775824Arabs have always loved Dune, nothing worse than Amerisharts being pre-offended for someone else who does not give a shit
>>223776261Oh lord you haven't heard? Arabs and Indians both claim to have taught the Europeans bathing.
>>223776234>Christianity was Not widespread in Arabia>Religion in pre-Islamic Arabia was historically traditional, local polytheistic religions. In the fourth century, Christianity became the dominant religion in the Roman Empire, Armenia, and Ethiopia, and began to make ground among large populations of Roman Arabs across the Sinai Peninsula, Jordan, southern Syria, and in the interior of the Arabian Peninsula, where large populations of Arab Christians emerged.>Christianity became the official religion of South Arabia after the Aksumite conquests[71] and several churches were built.[72] A church being built off the coast of Yemen is mentioned in RIÉ 191, and the Marib Dam inscription mentions a priest, a monastery, and its abbot.[73]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_pre-Islamic_Arabia#absolutely zutted.
Mohammed was a red haired white guy
grok what are the colors of fremen flag in the books?grok what was the word that was used for the holy crusade in the book and that was excised from the movies?grok why would a padishah have a daughter dressed as a crusader?grok was baron harkonnen fond of barren aesthetics in the books?
>>223775824Muzzies are unpleasant
>>223776032There’s been a lot of castrated altar boys in Christendom well into the 20th century. Are you trying to argue Abrahamic religion isn’t inherently pedophilic?
>>223775852Dadabhoy is a jeet surname. They're everywhere now, screeching about everything out of spite
>>223775824Not seeing this unless it accurately portrays Paul getting raped in the desert by the dark men from planet Zutt.
>>223775981“Islamic” architecture and culture is pretty much straight up stolen from the Greeks and Persians. Mosques are literally just late-Roman churches with some additions.
>>223775869Yes. Ambereen Dadabhoy just outed herself as a massive pleb and brainlet.
>dressing for the desert in a story set in the desert is racistIt's all so tiresome.
Muslims would just suicide bomb the theater if they made that
>>223775921
>>223775978He's not adapting them though, he's writing a shitty fanfic where Paul is a villain rather than a victim of prescient fate and the REAL hero is Chani, because Muh Anti-Colonialism.
>>223775978fuck off, Dennis
Zuttsluts worship a big black cube (BBC) and raise their asses to the sky in prayer to imitate the time the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) got his slutty bussy gaped by the men of Zutt. This is why Islam means submission. If DUNC 3 isn’t racist they will portray this essential part of Zuttslut culture.
>indian pretends to be offended by others
>>223775869Nobody is native to arrakis. Not even the worms.
>>223775824Did they not read the novels?
>>223776632That's bullshit and you know it. No one is more sensitive to whites "stealing" their culture than yellows, browns, reds, and blacks.Latinx invented the word Latinx and then got mad when whites used it to describe them. Blacks claim whites stole literally everything from them. Yellows don't like when whites say their food smells like fish and rotten shit. Browns don't like anything whites do.
>>223775824Isn't Timothy Chalamat Jewish? And Anya Taylor-Joy is descended from European Spaniards who kicked out the Muslims from Spain. What about all those Muslims who wear Chinese made clothing designed in the U.S. with the logos of American corporations slapped on them?
Imagine this, one cold, Arabian night in the desert. You are Muhammad (PBUH). Freshly exiled from Mecca. You are all alone, cold, lonely.You wonder if Allah has abandoned you. “Was I being too Haram?” You wonder, “Did I commit too much Shirk?” Your bussy has been lonely ever since you first heard Allah’s final prophecy, it “hurt” but at the same time, felt so good. Right now, you want that feeling more than anything. Then suddenly out of the darkness, deliverance! Allah has heard your prayers and rewarded your perseverance! The dark, virile men of of Al-Zutt have been summoned to pamper Allah’s final and greatest little slut. Your tiny cock begins to harden at their advance, thinking of the pleasures about to enter your zesty little bussy.The men of Zutt surround and embrace you. Where there was once cold and loneliness, now there is warmth. ALLAH has provided. One by one, you suck their dark, girthy cocks. These ones are even bigger than the spirit who delivered to you the word of Allah. Your slutty little cock gets even more excited as you think of them entering you. With their strong, masculine grips, they pin you down and take turns ravaging your perky little ass. Allah has given them strength Hot ZUTT cum is dripping from your submissive little sissy hole, just like Jane Doe and the Cornell 7.The men of Al-Zutt whisper sexily into your ear: “What are you?” They ask aggressively. “I-I AM A MUSLIM” I SUBMIT TO ALLAH” you whimper with what little manhood you have left.In this moment, you know you have just started a new movement, nay, an entire RELIGION. You know, as Allah’s sluttiest little prophet, that BILLIONS will follow in your footsteps as Zuttsluts. They will wave their asses in the air and worship the big black cube in imitation. A new world order that is ZUTT OWNED. This is the beginning of SUBMISSION, the beginning of ISLAM.
>>223776430>a lot of castrated altar boys in Christendom well into the 20th centuryyou're confused with castrato, who weren't altar boys. the 'altar boys' they were actually a pre-christian european tradition that carried on into the medieval period until becoming castrato proper, which was still an exclusively italian phenomena, until being banned on the unification of italy. you are mendaciously trying to parse the fact that the last castrati died in old age in the early 20th century as 'well into the 20th century' because you're a compulsive liar. as for eunuchs in general, pagan eunuchs didn't continue in europe that long because paganism in europe was entirely replaced by christianity by about the 9th or 10th century in the west and not much later in the east. they were certainly a thing in china until the empire collapsed. the last chinese imperial eunuch died in 1996. the chinese empire wasn't abrahamic. similarly in the rest of the far east as well.
>>223776550you didn’t read the bookhe’s adapting the hello grandfather alternate path
>>223776757>Isn't Timothy Chalamat Jewish?yes.
>>223775824When Whites don't want to participate in other cultures, they're called racist. When Whites want to participate in other cultures, they're called racist.
>>223776960he made several bullshit, nonsense changes and omissions that took place prior to that moment, so that post-facto excuse doesn't flyeven if he was faithful up to that point and then diverged from there, that wouldn't make it *not* a fanfic
>>223777027paul talks about that path pretty early on in the book, what changes are you talking about that are important to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iY5b4zb_Zkthis song should appear in the movie to properly reflect islamic culture
Why does every discussion about Islam on the 'chinz sounds like a bunch of bots hallucinating and short circuiting?
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T WRAP A WHITE SHEET AROUND YOUR BODY THAT'S LIKE MY CULTURE OR WHATEVER
>>223777038Thufir, Paul as trained Mentat, Mentats and calculation in general, Yueh, biblical and historical references, the banquet, Kynes, etc.
>>223777120just like your life, islam is a joke
>>223775824chalmet looks like the dyke from that upcoming sony flop
>>223775981>story takes place nearly 25000 years from now
>>223775835LmaoIts pretty obviously an attack on Abrahamic religion in general. The tweet is just by one of the more brainlet members of liberals.
>>223775981trvke
>>223776669Fuck off Anderson
>>223775824arabs didn't invent sheets you fucking primitives
>>223775824These movies are ugly just like the actors in them
>>223776430>There’s been a lot of castrated altar boys in Christendom well into the 20th century.This is actually a believe you carry around as a fact to randomly bring up? What other absurd shit do you have? Just curious. How do you think this could be true yet noone seems to care?
She's got a point, but it's more of a specific Hollywood thing that avoiding Muslims has long been normalized than orientalism
>>223775824Paul is the abomination, Alia is the QH
>>223776387So was Genghis Khan. What's your point?
>>223775824Imagine complaining about that while they continue to terraform every western nation they are granted "asylum" Hilariously cucked, white people can't complain about their countries being pilfered and destroyed but arabs want to whine about DUNC
>>223776732then why is it always white women who complain about this shit?
>>223776490Many such cases. These are the same people decrying the first movie as being a white savior narrative and writing meandering sinkpieces about how that's actually a bad thing without a hint of irony or awareness. You'd think they would have learned their lesson back then but I guess their humiliation fetish just keeps bringing them back.
>>223778022It isn't, you liar.
>>223777562European castle turrets are literal ripoffs of minarets. They don’t appear in Europe until after the first crusade :)
>>223778142yes it is, it's always fucking white women complaining about minorities being offended when the minorities do not give a shit
>>223776234holy shit you fucking muzzies really are retarded. You cunts literally just believe whatever shit is shoveled down your throat
>>223776387>white guy got zutted
>>223775869No one on Arrakis is a native since they are all humans
>>223778190Oh yeah like that white woman who made the Apu movie and got him canceled?
>>223775824>NOOOO!!!!>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WEAR SHEETS AS CLOTHES UNLESS YOU PREACH ISLAM!!!!!>NOBODY WORE ROBES BEFORE ISLAM!!!!
>>223779409That guy got his film crowd funded by white women, you dunce
>>223775835It's never enough for leftroons.
>>223776732>Latinx invented the word Latinx and then got mad when whites used it to describe themThat word was invented by whites actually. or "whites". Real latin people hate gender neutral bullshit and never use it themselves.
>>223778159>we brownoids invented height!Holy cope
>>223778159no, muzrat, you didn't invent towers
>>223776632>Such narcissistsTo be entirely fair, they deserve it. They literally built the modern concept of civilization, invented every major technology breakthrough in the last 150 years, everything from Dynamite to Powered Flight to Electricity to Space Travel. Learned to build machines to fly in the sky, to swim beneath the ocean, and to convert the browns to nuclear vapor if they ever truly get out of line. Compared to the other cultures on the planet, they're basically Gods, well past just a cut above the rest.
>>223779657It's so funny how Herbert is such a midwit. If he didn't want people to root for Paul then maybe he shouldn't have written him as the best option, no matter how flawed.>oh no people are going to support the messiah figure who is going to cause a lot of death but also save the most people possible, how could this happen to me?
>>223779657>>223779982I've never understood what the fuck Herbert was on about with this. Having an unambiguous Messiah figure that becomes evil in the later books is way more interesting than the "critique" that Villeneuve is going for. I think Herbert should have had a little more confidence in his book, instead of getting pissy when some people didn't get it.
>>223778159>The origin of the minaret is unclear.[18] Many 19th-century and early 20th-century scholars traced the origin of minarets to the Umayyad Caliphate period (661–750) and believed that they imitated the church steeples found in Syria in those times.Also the "islamic golden age" is entirely based on the archivments of conquered Christians, Persians and Jews.
>>223775824Both so fucking ugly
>>223775824They're actors, they're playing pretend. Do these concern baiters shit themselves when China only uses Chinese actors? or Indians only use Indian actors?
I can't believe they're culturally appropriating in the new Dune movie. Dune was never about referencing holy wars or religions or anything like that
>>223775978same, sure he's taken some serious liberties but they're way better than we should expect given what has been coming out these past few decades. Really wish he had cast someone other than Chalamet though.
>>223776757>European Spaniards who kicked out the Muslims from Spainbased, I also do this on CK2 whenever I have spanish duchies
>>223775824its fantasy
>>223780081Trying to write a story about the dangers of religious fanaticism and messiah figures is retarded when you present that messiah figure as the best option and ultimately worth following because everything else is a many times worse outcome. It's hilariously self-defeating.
>>223779690>Latin-X was invented by whites actuallyFalse. It was invented by a Mexican lady at some lesbian conference or something years ago. Latinos (Mexicans) like to pretend it was invented by whitey because it's easier to cope with the shame.
>>223775824Fucking heathens.
>>223776360Yeah, but the Fremen, the original Zensunni wanderers who left earth 26,000 years ago came from modern day Egypt, and Egyptians will be quick to tell you they are not Arabs, its like an insult to them. We are le EGYTPIANS.
I never really understood the opposition to so-called "white saviorism." Even in an actual historical setting, where it's fact, white movie makers are now terrified of depicting white people helping/teaching/saving/etc minorities, even when it's truth. Do they just not want to be seen as weak or do they just hate whitey or is it a painful reminder that their ancestors were inferior in some way?
>>223781461they're ultimately a mashup of basically everybody from North Africa to the Caucasusas you correctly note, there is this:>“We are the people of Misr,” the old woman rasped. “Since our Sunni ancestors fled from Nilotic al-Ourouba, we have known flight and death. The young go on that our people shall not die.”but there is also:>Presently Paul recalled the words of 467 Kalima in Yueh’s O.C. Bible. He said: “From water does all life begin.”>Jessica stared at him. Where did he learn that quotation? she asked herself. He hasn’t studied the mysteries.>“Thus it is spoken,” Chani said. “Giudichar mantene: It is written in the Shah-Nama that water was the first of all things created.”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahnamehthis is also complicated somewhat by:>Jessica thought about the prophecy—the Shari-a and all the panoplia propheticus, a Bene Gesserit of the Missionaria Protectiva dropped here long centuries ago—long dead, no doubt, but her purpose accomplished: the protective legends implanted in these people against the day of a Bene Gesserit’s need.there are also references to the Bedouins, and Herbert also separately mentioned southern Africans as an influence; to wit, the:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_peoples
>>223777197Its hard to translate advanced thoughts and calculations in someones head without a stupid face or obnoxious equations on the screen.
>>223775824never, at any point, it's implied in Dune that the Fremen are niggers, arabs or other kinds of orientalseven if they theoretically could've been when they arrived, they spent the last 11000 years avoiding every single ray of the sun and living only under artificial glowglobesliving on a desert planet doesn't magically turn you into a nigger when you're living in caves and create a culture centered around avoiding sunthat is not to say that there can't be any among them, since at the same time it's never implied that any planet is of a pure undiluted stock, whethere it be black, asian, or whitethe story of Dune isn't about a quirked up white boy coming to save some unwashed brownoid masses, but about a cultural clash with people who spent millennia in an almost-perfect isolationthe worst thing is that now we'll have to wait another 50 years until someone attempts to adapt it again
>>223775824Mesopotamia was white.
>>223781662you either misunderstand or have an extremely narrow imaginationthe trick is to craft scenes/dialogue/visuals that demonstrate ideas and reward careful attention and analysis
>>223778159"Minarets" are literally just towers. And no, brown people did not invent towers.
>>223776430Castrato weren't "altar boys". They were specifically men trying to preserve their singing voice for various reasons, both related and unrelated to church activities.
>>223775824>NOOOOOO ARTISTS CAN'T JUST TAKE INFLUENCE FROM EXTANT CULTURES AND STYLES AND HAVE THEM INFLUENCE THEIR IMAGERY!!! NO NO NO NO THIS IS LITERALLY GENOCIDE!!!"Cultural Apropriation" is such a fucking joke. Leftists are anti-art and anti-creativity.
>>223776364pity they didnt teach them to use water to clean after pooping toothe dry poop smell that whites carry and seemingly not register is disgusting
>>223781839they're just brainwashed useful idiots who subscribe to Marx's dictum:>"But, if constructing the future and settling everything for all times are not our affair, it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to *ruthless criticism of all that exists*, ruthless both in the sense of not being afraid of the results it arrives at and in the sense of being just as little afraid of conflict with the powers that be."it is also impossible to explain this to them, or, ironically, to get them to examine their own position critically
>>223775852its true im arab and live in the ME and never in my life have i ever heard anyone say anything about this here, if there is an araboid who cries about it, it's an one born in the west who's never been here, or was forced to visit family over summer as a kid
>>223781823>the church needs it's own squad of high pitched singers BECAUSE IT JUST DOES, OKAY?
>>223775824>oriental>ayrab??
Chalamet's lack of aura really is something. I never got the DUNC glazing he receives. He is emoting competently enough which people confuse for 10/10 performance and be an ideal fit for a role, and that it, he otherwise lacks presence
>>223781999>have it explained to you why you're wrong>respond with a non-sequitur, mindlessly repeating what you are wrong aboutWell I guess the whole "brown people have measurably lower IQ's does have some basis in reality...
>>223775824These two are Atreides they are not supposed to look like fremen born in ArrakisWhy people are so fucking retarded these days?
>>223778159>WE INVENTED TOWERS AN' SHIETlol
>>223775824>make movie with Islamic aesthetic and a diverse non-Arab cast>muh cultural appropriation!>make movie with Islamic aesthetics and an Arab cast>muh stereotyping!Is there anything that would actually satisfy the woke left?
>>223775824>thinks Muslims invented the "Arab" aestheticMost of the time people are actually borrowing from Zoroastrianism anyway, whom the Muslims genocided.
>>223775824so Chani is going to be the true savior and unironic only good person on this one...fuck.but nazi timmy looks cool ngl.
>>223775824Mohammed and his arab faggots were running around the desert in tents. Everything belonging to Islam is stolen. Just like white culture.
>>223783118he wanted to unify the arab peoples,eat the eastern roman empire,and fuck little girls.its not that deep,but of course,religious people dont like to think about the utilitarism in religion.
>>223775824The aesthetics in this image aren’t “Arabic”. The “script” looks closer to cuneiform or Scandinavian Runes, than it does to Arabic script. The script over everything is much closer to what was found in Assyria and Babylon, than in Arabic settings, although the undecorated pyramid texts are also somewhat similar. The architecture is also somewhat close to Babylonian and Assyrian, and monumental Ancient Egyptian structures.None of these cultures were “Arabs”.
>>223783147umm akshually anon everyone from that region is a swarthy brownoid ayrab and has been for all of history
>>223781276isn't that the point though? Like the tragedy of his character is knowing he's one of the very few with the knowledge required to see that he is the best option, thus forcing him into making horrible choices. Paul is a slave to his genetic make-up, carrying out what he sees as an unavoidable consequence of decisions made generations ago. Everything else is a worse outcome because of how the past hundreds of years have set things up.
>>223781706nah, Dune is a proven big box office draw, given current trends there will be a remake inside 20 years (if movies are still a thing)
>>223783200>muh Jesuskek who gives a fuck
>>223783471im not a christcuck its just a good example
ITT>culture is influenced by the culture before it??? It must not be real culture
>>223775824فَمَرْعًى لِغِزْلَانٍ وَدَيْرٌ لِرُهْبَانِوَبَيْتٌ لِأَوْثَانٍ وَكَعْبَةُ طَائِفٍوَأَلْوَاحُ تَوْرَاةٍ وَمُصْحَفُ قُرْآنِأَدِينُ بِدِينِ الْحُبِّ أَنَّى تَوَجَّهَتْرَكَائِبُهُ، فَالْحُبُّ دِينِي وَإِيمَانِي
>>223780182and? all of americas achievements is just exploiting other peoples hard work. americans? building the railroads themselves? haha
>>223783442It’s more that Paul is precognitive and can’t break away from what he predicts. It isn’t until Leto II that someone can not only predict the future, but make the future he wants as well, as Paul is incomplete
>>223783534>Paul is incompleteI've only read the first book and that was literal decades ago, wdym? Like he can see ahead but not far enough or that he can't live long enough to see it through?
>>223783550its a retcon because herbert didnt expect the books to be so popular.but the purist lore explanation is that Paul had to do all those terrible things to bring the god emperor and the salvation of humanity.
>>223783623It’s in the first book that Paul was supposed to be a girl and get knocked up by feyd. But since his mother could choose the gender of his kid and loved her husband, she gave him a boy.
>>223783457Even with past trends Dune is adapted every 20 years or so.
>>223776960I have read the (original)books three times, the first two times I even slogged through the Anderson & Son continuation, and I own an original print run copy of the Dune Encyclopedia that I personally hunted down at physical secondhand bookstores. I know more about Dune than you forget about your breakfast before you finish eating it, you poseur shit, and what Denis is doing is an intentional reframing of the plot resulting in cucked out faggoty DEIslop, which is why you love it you raging queer.
>>223783670yeah,the book mentions that he appeared before the witches predicted because of Jessica.but the fact of him being a defective oracle is a bullshit invention to make children of dune.
anya isn't from earth, it's okay for aliens to appropriate human culture
>>223783550In the books he can see varying possible paths but its not completely filled in. He also cant see special beings with similar powers in how they fit in. His powers were good enough he could make decisions to cause the least amount of harm to humans long term. He had no interest in the great sacrifice to fully guide (turning into a tyrannical worm)
>>223775824>OrientalismMore subversive commie gobbledygook cooked up in the 60s to make whites feel guilty for being white. Not working anymore, schlomo.
>>223783712They've had sex, right? I can feel it.
>>223783786yea but keep it on the down low
>>223783200
>>223775961I thought they were Greek
>>223783740huh ok, ty. Well, can't blame him for not wanting to turn into a worm I guess.
>>223783793I go to a lot of music festivals yet never catch a glimpse of celebs at all...
>>223775824What do arabs have to do with Asians? Asians are Japanese, Chinese, etc. you stupid yuros.
>>223775824Not buying a ticket to this trash. They are 100% going to have zendaya kill himWill pirate tho
Well, that is Eurocentrism in a nutshell. I'm what retards would call "latino" but I'm 70% native American and the definition of Latino disgusts me. ANd it disgusts me how people talk about "latino". I'm mexican and I'm at least 70% native American. I enjoy Genshin Impact and there is a map called Natlan based on the native peoples of America and they sexualised all the females from that area and on every thread on 4chan or even on twitter, people saying they want a "latina" waifu. They are fucking based on native americans. I have the blood of native Americans. STOP FUCKING CALLING US LATINOS. I'M A FUCKING NATIVE AMERICAN. Europeans destroyed the spirit of NATIVE AMERICANS. In the north it's even worse. The few ones left, they caged them up, they make them live like animals, they introduced hard liquor and hard drugs to destroy them, to fucking enslave themFUCK EUROPE. FUCK EUROCENTRISM,
>>223775824I thought practicing Muslims weren't allowed to shave their beards. how can this be Islamic aesthetics then?
>>223776669>Not even the worms.Elaborate on that
>>223781929This is literally how poltards act.
>>223775824This is why Dune’s overrated. It was written by a white man about a white hero being a liberator to a bunch of “sand people” You have to have the mind of a child to immerse yourself in this scifislop.
>>223775824>OrientalismSo the old stop motion Sinbad movies? It's all attractive White people trying to be "good" Muslims the entire time while having adventures. It's a fascinating aesthetic that probably was only real in the time that islam had taken over Spain
>>223785931Well it's not like sand people can liberate themselves
>>223779982>>223780081Honestly anons. Is Dune a shitty book? Why, if so, is it praised as the greatest science fiction book ever?
>>223776364We must have perfected it then because they often do a poor job in that department.
>>223785931they are more "black jungle" people than sand people now
>>223781639And in the last book, 4Chans favorite people!
>>223783712>>223783786>>223783793Cara’s clit is that long?
>>22378499426000 years removed
>>223775866not fast enough.hollywood really need to steer into the whirlpool
>>223775824These monkeys are going to lose their shit when they learn to read and eventually skim through Frank Herbert's books.
>>223785805>Elaborate on thatNo.
>>223786635Fuck you ghost Frank.
>>223784994Spanish, Greek, Egyptian... The Kwisatz Haderach has access to all of his ancestors' memories on both sides of his family since the dawn of humanity and Dune takes place tens of thousands of years in the future.
>>223775919ACK!shually, Chani is described in the books as copper-haired and with "elfin" facial features (she's 1/4 non-Fremen offworlder). Maybe a ginger Levantine could do the trick.
>>223785805the worms function terraforming the environment and making it much more drier,while huge portions of water are encapsulated and not reachable,so Arrakis ironically has absurd amounts of water under the surface.the cycle of fucking the place,and then making it greener again is an important thing on this books.
>>223775824>Jeet bitchThat jeet bitch dressed in western attire, most probably living in a western country, can go fuck herself.- Muslim anon
>>223775824I can't take this pussy seriously in this role man
>>223777553It's revealed in the third book, dummy.
>>223775824>story is about a culturally-appropriating outsider imposing himself onto a native population as a false messiah>get mad that the culturally-appropriating false messiah outsider is not of the native ethnicity?????????????????????????????????????????????
>>223775866This.
>>223777553Arrakis being a normal earth like planet was established from the beginning, the worms came to the planet and fucked everything up, if anything the people already living there were the natives, but all of this is left open to interpretation, most likely there's nothing native left on the planet.
>>223783794You’re a retard.Everyone admits Jesus existed, it’s whether or not he was magic and white living in the Middle East. He wasn’t white, and he wasn’t magic.Retard.
>>223775824Man, imagine having all those amazing Asia Minor/Middle East native costumes and now all people associate with those regions are women wrapped in sheets. Grim. At least actual 19th century Orientalism got it half right.
>>223785805>>Not even the worms. >Elaborate on thatThere's a theory that they're just worms from earth, brought over for terraforming purposes, that just mutated. But I don't remember anything in the books definitively stating it.
