Just decided to start a Harry Potter thread for fun, name any plot holes in the series you can think of.
>>223794687why didn't they change Anakin's last name if they wanted to protect him?have him go by Dursley
>>223794687not a plot hole but I just watched the first 3 movies again recently and stylistic shift from 2 to 3 (new director) is jarring and terrible, like a parody of itself already. wtf were they thinking?
The only fighting harry ever does is just make the other guy fall back a little bit and/or their wand flies out of their hand instead of actual damaging blows to their body, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I thought in a fight youre supposed to hurt the other guy. Imagine a spell that makes the other guy's arms dislodge from their shoulders, or a spell that turns the other guys blood into glass or sand or something. anything at all.
>>223794775That does confuse me. Especially since Avada Kedavra is supposed to be an unforgivable evil spell that only the evilest of wizards came up with, but by killing standards it's pretty damn tame, basically the magical version of euthanasia. It'd be like if a serial killer wanted to kill someone he decides to do it through euthanasia and not cause too much pain, like if the wizards were so evil wouldn't they make Avada Kedavra more bloody and brutal as a killing spell? Even that Sectrasemtra or whatever it was called spell in Half-Blood Prince was worse since it actually slashed you and caused you to bleed. Like wouldn't Death Eaters wanna use/invent that spell since it causes more pain than Avada Kedavra?
>>223794687This one and Quirrel are the biggest ones. Dumbledore is le super genius man with 11/10 perception, and got fooled for an entire fucking year?The time turners themselves don't bother me, but they're treated as this incredibly dangerous and secretive artifact. So... we give them to 13 year olds who want to take extra classes in school.Love potions should be as illegal as the unforgivable curses. I don't see how it's any different than imperio fundamentally.
>>223794833yeah a forbidden curse should summon cenobites or something
>>223794892I get that they were kids books and they couldn't have anything too bloody, but at least mention that the Killing Curse actually does give you agonizing pain in the last few seconds of your life rather than just kills you instantly.
Why couldn't Dumbledore come up with an arrangement where Harry could stay at the school all year instead of going back and getting bullied by his notoriously shitty family that tried to stop him from going to hogwarts multiple times?
>>223794843>Love potions should be as illegal as the unforgivable curses. I don't see how it's any different than imperio fundamentally.Women are the one’s making them. Simple as.
>>223794687Pottah attacked snape and got away with it
Wow all the childbrained adults came out for this thread lol
>>223794923imo avada kedavra should be a spell that kills your soullike if you get hit with it you're dead inside, just a living huskkinda like you got blowed by a dementorit would up the evil without the blood and gorebonus: you can now kill those annoying fucking ghosts with it
>>223795392Also>why did nobody investigate Myrtle properly?>why did no one except Harry hear the gigantic snake living under Hogwarts?>why didn't Fred and George notice Peter Pettigrew on the map?>why didn't fake Moody just give Harry a Portkey immediately?>how did Dumbledore not recognize fake Moody?>why did the Portkey take Harry back to Hogwarts?HP is shit
>Voldemort can’t fuck with Harry directly as a baby>none of his followers thinks to just keep taps on him and blast his ass while he’s living with his aunt and uncle>no one thinks to just pay some chav to stab his ass and psyop it into muggles being bastards
why didn't voldemort just put a horcrux in a block of cement and throw it in marianas trench?if we always knew voldemort was coming back why did everyone just sit around doing nothing?
>>223794753Three is the best, faggot.
>>223794923Who would even know that? Anyone who's experienced it is dead.
>>223795325Something about the love protection, his aunt can reload it
>>223795557there's 11 posts above yours and thats assuming none are repeat posters
>>223794687All the plot holes in this franchise steam out of the fact it's a children's series with a baseline that only kind of make sense as long as the main characters are children. How does the Wizarding community remain secret from the rest of the world when apparently literal ten year olds put at risk their secrecy on a yearly basis? Why are they so ignorant of the modern world? They literally don't travel to a different world, shit just happens in secret. Some times they do magic shit in front of normal people and it's okay because normal people can't even percieve magic, but sometimes they need to take precautions or else they are exposing the secrecy of their magical society. Hell, most kids are half-bloods, means they are constantly mingling with non-witch people, again, how come they are so ignorant of normal stuff or how come normal people aren't supposed to know about the witches existence? Adult Harry is an adult with up to 5th grade level education because fucking Hogwartz don't teach regular subjects, they have "potions" instead of chemestry, but the rest of the world runs on science not magic. The school don't make sense as part of a larger world, their whole setup doesn't make much sense, quidditch too don't make much sense, bad guy isn't threatening because he's constantly defeated by a literal gradeschooler, and magic is just learn magic words and say words and move wooden stick around. I'd keep complaining but the whole thing boils down to; this series was only ever okay when it's for little kids, the main characters are kids solving whodunnit cases in what is essentially a halloweeny version of a private school, once it moves past that scope it's wattpad fan-fic tier writting through and through.
>>223794687Why didn't he just rape Voldemort?
>>223794687Mad eye moody only kills 5 death eaters before getting ganked.
it's been a while so i can't fully explain thisbut in the first book, Hagrid borrows his flying bike from Sirius Blackin the third book, Sirius Black is believed to be a murderernow, this wasn't long after Harry's birth, so i guess Sirius wasn't a known 'murderer' yet.but it's odd it just goes unmentioned, and Hagrid keeps the bike. like it's not an outright plot hole, but i think Rowling just used a name in the first book then reused it later on to imply a connection that wasn't planned. there's a lot of strainin' to do some explainin' whenever there's a>why didn't they just use <item/spell> to <solve problem>?type questions, whereas the smarter move was to leave them alone.also not a plothole but just stuff like do Scottish characters need to travel to London to get the train back up to Hogwarts? Lupin was scared Harry's boggart would turn into Lord Voldemort, no other kids are scared of the big bad evil wizard whose name they won't even mention...?
>>223794775You clearly didn't read the books
Deathly Hallows part 1 is one of the worst non-movies ive ever seen
>>223795695>How does the Wizarding community remain secretObliviate>Why are they so ignorant of the modern world? Modern world sucks>Some times they do magic shit in front of normal people and it's okayEven if a muggle sees something a little strange they're not going to immediately jump to "It must be magic! Magic is real!!!">quidditch too don't make much senseRowling sucks at sport
>>223794687>goblet of fire begins>"moody" says "hey harry touch this cup">harry dies alone and voldemort is resurrected
>>223795695>hey literally don't travel to a different world, shit just happens in secret. Some times they do magic shit in front of normal people and it's okay because normal people can't even percieve magic, but sometimes they need to take precautions or else they are exposing the secrecy of their magical society. i'm fine with this in a way. e.g. the Prime Minister knows about magic, sometimes wizards are careless and people just dismiss it. sometimes they wipe Muggles' memories, but a lot of it is probably just weirdness like>i swear mate, i saw some fat balloon lady floating over Surrey last week.the story starts out with wizards in funny hats celebrating Voldemort's defeat and telling Vernon Dursley even mugglefolk should be pleased. they fucking SUCK at keeping the world secret, but it's in such small doses it barely matters.locations like the Leaky Cauldron, Diagon Alley, and Hogwarts are isolated to the wizards behind magic barriers and things. at least in the movie, Hermione takes her muggle parents to Diagon Alley while she's shopping for school supplies. Petunia Dursley knows her sister was a witch, etc.basically anyone could probably blow the whistle on the whole thing. i see it like the Masquerade in the World of Darkness. there's a whole supernatural world going on under people's noses, they have an agreement to keep it secret, besides, it's the 90s. people weren't walking around filming everything yet. tabloids DID run all sorts of nonsense fluff stories, and nobody is going to believe a schizo website 'REAL WIZARDS EXIST!!!'
>>223794753The robes and uniform change always cracked me up. Not only is it strange that a wizard school founded in medieval times uses official unforms conforming to modern muggle clothing styles using suits and ties, but they actually change them every few years for the most minor of changes. Like imagine being a Hogwarts student starting another year in the 1993-1994 school year and you have to go through the effort of getting a new uniform because some random people running the school decided that they really wanted the school uniforms to be a darker shade of gray.
>>223794753Yeah, I can't believe how popular the third one is. Is mediocre like everything it followed. The muggle clothes sucks, the color sucks and the sound design is insanely bad. Compare it to the moving tree scene from the second movie, the sound is awful in the third.>>223795609Faggot.
>>223794687Gleeson playing the exact same Mad Eye Moody character even though he was an imposter in one movie
grow up, troon
>>223795959You forget, troons stay away from HP because while JK is fine with her people becoming minorities in her own home country, grooming people into cutting off their dicks is where she draws the line. (I agree but still)
>>223795933My school uniform changed 3 times in the time I was there. Jumper to blazer to new logo on blazer. UK schools just do that when they become trusts/charities and pass around management.
>>223794753It's not even "darker" writing-wise, in fact it seems to take itself less seriously with all the lame jokes it tries to make, with obvious pauses for laughter from the audience. It feels like an utterly generic YA film most of the time.
>>223795933Well in the books all the students just wear plain black robes and presumably nothing else besides underwear. The only students with any sort of house affiliation on their robes are prefects.
>>223794833The point of Avada Kedavra is that it requires concentrated malice to achieve it's effect, which is singularly killing someone with no other utility. You can't really use it in any other fashion than deliberate murder
>>223796076>maliceNot necessarily malice, see Snape killing Dumbledore (spoiler alert), but definitely intent.
>>223794833The other forbidden spell is the cruciatus curse, which is an unimaginably painful but non-lethal torture that death eaters use before casting avada kedavra for the killing blow. I always wonder about that bomba spell Dolores Umbridge cast to blow up the wall in Order of the Phoenix, like can you cast it on humans and just gib them? That sounds more like what a wizard would do. Of course wizard duels aren't as flashy and interesting as they could have been. This is from the same mind that made like 1 school for the entirety of Africa.
>>223796074Since film is a visual media, I'm not surprised that plain black robes just didn't work, and so they invented the uniform. I like what they did in the early video games, where it was a black robe but had the respective colors and house emblem on it, that's what I think should be canon.
>>223794687When I rewatched DHP1 I realized where the fuck did Harry get that mirror from? Only to google and apparently it was gift from Sirius. But desu the whole idea of Harry conveniently not opening the Christmas present that would’ve saved Sirius is incredibly retarded. The movie should’ve just tagged it to Dumbledore’s Will, since the other piece was linked to his brother anyway. Instead Harry just has it out of nowhere.
>>223796014Hogwarts was a state school, run by the Ministry, I seriously doubt the Ministry would care enough to be changing the uniform too often. I think the uniform idea only works if it's a very recent idea in Hogwarts history and they only change it every fifty years when a uniform just gets too outdated and enough students complain that they finally design a new one.
>>223795589I like to imagine that Dumbledore knew the location of the Chamber from Myrtle all along and he was just letting the attacks happen as a sociopathic way to test Harry and give him combat experience.
>>223795589>>why did no one except Harry hear the gigantic snake living under Hogwarts?He was the only one at Hogwarts with snake speaking ability.
>>223794833Other spells can be countered or healed, including Sectrasemtra.
Dumbledore gives points.
>>223795933>suits and tiesin the books they just wear robes. the films added ties, then the third one just did away with robes entirely.but yeah as >>223796014 said, even state comprehensive schools had uniforms that changed. our tie design changed when the school got a new emblem, we had ribbons on our blazers that corresponded to the year, the sixth form used jumpers instead of blazers (but kept the ties).it would actually make sense if the uniforms advanced for later years. like O.W.L. students got a shawl or something, and by the time they were taking N.E.W.T.s, they got their first pointy hats to represent coming of age.
>>223795850>Hogwarts are isolated to the wizards behind magic barriers and things. at least in the movie>Hermione takes her muggle parents to Diagon Alley while she's shopping for school suppliesGrowing up, there were a lot of people that prefered the movies over the books, precisely because the movies made their world seem more consistent, the book had more details but they also seem a bit goofier and like, intented for slightly younger kids than what the movies were aiming for.>>223796074>Well in the books all the students just wear plain black robes and presumably nothing else besides underwear. The only students with any sort of house affiliation on their robes are prefects.Like this, people remember the aesthetics and tone from the movies while the books are actually a bit sillier, like wizards not wearing pants and the like. They'd look a lot goofier if they actually stuck to how they are described in the books.
>>223795589>>why didn't Fred and George notice Peter Pettigrew on the map?weren't they just using it specifically to avoid Filch and the other teachers at night?besides, even if they were snooping on Ron, did they know who Peter Pettigrew was?>oh Ron's in the common room with 'Peter Pettigrew'. must be a first year he's chatting with.
>>223796555>oh Ron sleeps with 'Peter Pettigrew' every night, our brother must be a gigantic closeted homosexual
>>223796511>the book had more details but they also seem a bit goofier and like, intented for slightly younger kids than what the movies were aiming for.i preferred that tbqh, at least for the first two.i mean they're essentially comedies, a bit like Roald Dahl books. kids can get their bones turned to jelly or eat snot sweets or whatever, and they're completely fine later on.there's always the genuine threat of death, but it goes from monsters trying to eat/bludgeon children to death and that's fairytale high jinks, to dark wizards using the Crucio curse and that's serious business.
>>223796581there's that too. maybe they DID notice and just didn't know how to bring it up.come to think of it, you could totally blackmail a ton of pupils 'hanging out' in the same toilet cubicle, or meeting behind the broom sheds together.
>>223794843>You'd be mad to break into Gringotts, its impossible>Quirrell does it by himself and never got caught
>>223795591>muh love magic>in a series where almost all romances are complete trash
>>223795325He needed some love protection shit from the aunt in order to not be trackable or whatever. As it is, even when Hogwarts was fully staffed it was fucking dangerous, god forbid they trust a skeleton crew to protect Harry during the holidays.
>>223796189>run by the Ministry,Not really, they have a school board, which Lucious was part of, that decided things like who would be Headmaster, the Minister of Magic himself could do nothing but stammer when Dumbledore was removed from his position in CoS
>>223796581why would they be looking at ron on the map at night? Even at home?
>>223794923>I get that they were kids books and they couldn't have anything too bloody, but at least mention that the Killing Curse actually does give you agonizing pain in the last few seconds of your life rather than just kills you instantly.That's because the scariest thing to a british hole is a gun so she gave the wizards the I cast gun spell. Don't know why it would be unforgiveable in america though. I suppose it would be a wizard felony for bringing it into the magic school there, that's an avada kedavra free zone.
>>223794833Didn't they say there was a big explosion when Voldemort or whoever used it in front of muggles in the first book or something?
>>223796555>did they know who Peter Pettigrew was?Ironically they should have because to everyone Peter famously "died" a martyr to the point of their giving his mom awards for bravery. If they knew about Sirius Black, they should also know Peter's name at minimum.
>>223797240>Didn't they say there was a big explosion when Voldemort or whoever used it in front of muggles in the first book or something?No the house blew up when the spell rebounded on Voldemort.
>>223797240I'm thinking of Peter Pettigrew and Google says it was "a powerful blast spell". That sounds more eviler and powerful than euthenasia spell.
>>223797205Why not? It'd be like if Google Maps let you spy on others, who wouldn't be tempted out of boredom before the internet at some time or another
>>223797205They wouldn't be looking directly at him but while browsing the map looking for various secrets and people they should've noticed something weird from the corner of their eye.
>>223794833I think one of the things about AK is just how lethal it is. There's no protection against it (deus ex mother notwithstanding), no defence charm or counter spell, no chance of resisting or reversing the effect. If it connects, you're just dead instantly.
>>223797253>>223796555Even if they don't know who Pattigrew is, there are like half a dozen Gryffindor new years and only 4 of them were supposed to be in those sleeping rooms
>>223794687Time Turner
>>223797283>(deus ex mother notwithstanding)>voldi kills thousands of people>Harry's mum is the only one that died to protect someone elseYeah, fuck off rowling
>>223795589what was that black goo?
>>223794833From the fight between Harry and Voldemort in goblet of fire, can't we assume that the killing curse steals your soul and keeps it in the casters wand? Doesn't seem very nice.
>>223794687For being the biggest baddest dark wizard Voldemort didn't do much aside from gaining a shoddy lichdom state just to shoot up a school. What was he going to do if ran into Israeli muggles who deal with actual demons, and blood sacrifice.
>>223794687why didn't mad-eye just get voldemort's rags off?
Those stupid every flavour beans. It is specifically mentioned that they are the most popular candy. You're telling me that people are dying to try, again and again, a food product that could potentially taste like vomit? More than any other candy that could possibly exist in this magical world?
>>223797331>From the fight between Harry and Voldemort in goblet of fire, can't we assume that the killing curse steals your soul and keeps it in the casters wand? Doesn't seem very nice.The later use of the Ressurection Stone answers that question, also because the Dumbeldore that Harry talks to after Snape kills him is implied to be his soul. So they really were just echoes of the people Voldemort killed, how that works is undefined because it was never meant to be fleshed out.
>>223797377It's just candy gacha
>>223797377People like low stakes gambling.
>>223794687Magic isn't real
>>223797388>>223797401Come on, the house has gotta be winning like 99% of all of those bets. There's way more bad flavours than good flavours.
>>223797282Would they? I'd probably just assume he was hanging around some other younger classmate and not really think about it, because while Fred and George do care about Ron, they don't really seem to give a shit about whatever he's up to unless it benefits them.
>>223797444For one, there are only so many first year Gryffindors so one extra name in the dormitories should be noticeable. For another dude was also sleeping in the dormitories
>>223797444>Would they? I'd probably just assume he was hanging around some other younger classmate and not really think about it, because while Fred and George do care about Ron, they don't really seem to give a shit about whatever he's up to unless it benefits them.Gred and Feorge stay away from Ron because he's got a fucking inferiority complex a mile wide.
>>223797465>he's got a fucking inferiority complex a mile wide.Somewhat understandably, not everyone has 5 brothers and a whole childhood of hand me downs
>>223797463Man, I didn't even know all the names of my classmates in my own years during school, much less the ones younger than me. I don't really see why they'd bother paying attention to all the names of Rons classmates enough to remember whether they'd seen one in particular or not.
>>223797253How famous was it really though? Lots of people surely died and got posthumously awarded that somebody who was like three at the time wouldn't remember. Harry only even finds out about it because he overhears Fudge explaining it to somebody older than them.
>>223797523There are maybe 8 new years that came with Ron, they absolutely would notice a name they never saw before in a place nobody else should be
>>223796555>>223796581It's not entirely unreasonable that they just assumed whoever owned Scabbers before them named him that and the first name stuck.
>>223797233Murder is still illegal in America you fucking retard. What a waste of dubs.
>>223797686i mean did it pick up animals? Finch's cat? every student's owl, toad, cat, whatever they were allowed?i assumed it just detected people, including humans transfigured into animals.and it would deadname a transsexual person.
>>223797848I'm pretty sure it shows Filch's cat but I can't recall for sure.
>>223797848> Finch's cat?In the books, yes. PoA specifically mentions her being on the map.
>>223794687bellatrix and hermoine dont scissor
>>223794892"Forbidden" curses can be pretty much anything. Sectumsempra is more brutal than Avada Kedrava. The reason Avada Kedrava is so bad is there can be no question to the intent. It can't even be something you compel someone else to use. Fiendfyre is basically a fire demon with a will of its own if you arent careful. That's a way worse death than Avada Kedavra but you dont get instant sentence to Azkaban because it could have been an accident or something. A lot of curses are a mystery because if anyone knows them they might cast them without realizing what they're doing so almost no one knows them. Harry didnt even know what sectumsempra did and he cast it just fine so a balls melt off spell probably does exist.
>>223794753I wonder if it would have been less jarring if Michael Gambon didn't die and his replacement wasn't so much worse.
>>223796581Didn't they think at one point the map was defective?
>>223794775He fucks Malfoy's shit up with Snape's spell
>>223797979Wasnt Gambon the replacement for Harris?
>>223794833Its unforgivable because its unquestionable in intent. You cant cast it and not mean it its literally not like a gun at all. It literally fuels itself off malevolent intent. They even say if you try and dont really mean it doesnt work so someone who uses it regularly is bad fucking news and needs to go. Even doing it once is bad, its not even really a defensive spell, its purely murderous.
>>223798028Yeah. That's my bad. Richard Harris was such a good Dumbledore. I hated Gambon
>>223798028yes. that anon is just wrong.
Why not just buy a gun?
>>223798061See >>223798058
>>223796074Speaking of underwear, what styles do you think Hermione wore as the series progressed?
>>223798071Because filthy muggle barbarism is beneath wizards.
>>223794687Malfoy is a male. I heard that one detail fucked everything up.
>>223798071You think the American wizarding schools have regular mass killings?
HP only had two good movies - 1 and 2. The rest is trash
>>223794687When they are having a magical fight they pause in-between spells and shit with no logic as to why they can't just keep machine-gunning spell after spell at a motherfucker. Like if they had to recharge to use an offensive spell or something that would make some kind of sense.Not having the fight between Dumbledore and Voldemort go on longer with cool uber-powerful shit was a total ripoff. The same as Thanos versus Strange got cut apparently.I just want to see a good magical fight between uber-powerful wizards will modern effects and we always get gyped.Lord of the Rings was so lame and gay with that shit I don't even know where to start. A couple of uber-wizards who just wind up throwing each other around with telekinetic shit with their sticks? Jesus, you couldn't come up with a bigger letdown if you tried.Uber-wizard faced with fire demon. Yells, "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" Get fucking fucked for fuck sakes.
>>223798058FWIW i agree.it's not the worst recasting choice, but Richard Harris was like a sweet old man bumbling about, Michael Gambon was more loud and kept his Irish twinge for some reason.i was sceptical about the new American bloke (and he might also die before the series finishes) but he looks and sounds the part.
>>223798089Only if a good chunk of the American wizarding population is black or trans, either that or they have their own version of the CIA or FBI.
>>223798185I liked Harris and prefer his portrayal, especially with that sort of wily side underneath the sweet old man personality, but he really was just a bit too old to be really reliable for the full length of the series, and probably shouldn't have been cast to begin with, if they wanted consistency.
>>223794687The twins not spotting the rat shapeshifter on the magic map.
>>223795589>>why didn't Fred and George notice Peter Pettigrew on the map?Why didn't they notice Professor Quirrel never left the side of Tom Riddle?
>>223797058>>Quirrell does it by himself>QuirrellThe man had Voldemort on the back of his head, he wasn't alone and didn't lack for dark magic power.
>>223798506Guessing Voldemort wouldn't have shown up at the start given that he was still 'inhabiting' Quirrels body.
>>223795591they cant because of some Secret Charm or whatever, until harry becomes a legal wizard adult at 17 his house is invisible to those who arent specifically in on it, or something like that
>>223795591They specifically make him live with his shitty aunt and uncle BECAUSE no one can blast his ass there. Love protection magic that lasts till he ages up enough.
>>223798515Nope, just went through the audiobook again and the Fusion only happened after he failed to get the stone from Gringotts
>>223794687I heard the author arbitrarily changed the character of Malfoid to Moidfoy. Terrible idea really, considering how jarringly feminine Moidfoy is. Very awkward and silly!
>Malfoid threads getting deleted.Damn. She really did a number on trannies.
>>223798506They wouldn't know who Tom Riddle was and would assume that Quirrell was Queerell
why didn't voldemort drink a hundred Liquid Luck potions and Avada Kedavra the sky to hit Harry?
>>223798185gambon made more sense in the long run. I could never see richard harris betraying harry after his characterization in the first 2 movies. He just seemed too harmless in contrast with gambon
>>223798780Drinking too much or over a long period of time makes you less lucky but also over confident.
>>223798156Lotr wizards - they're not human, they're angels in human form. The wizards of Lotr are ancient
>>223798185Gambon was fine plus both of them were irish and I could buy him actually fighting Voldemort over Harris who was so old by that time
>>223798820Yeah, fuck you and your Tolkienfaggotry. If you have all that build up and it comes to literally fucking nothing, where you can't even have a magic dude throw a fireball or do literally fucking anything cool, then it's a total waste of time and hours and hours of total wank. Might as well just make him 'guy with stick', because the magic/wizard shit doesn't matter, he just talks a bunch of horseshit.
a major pothole is harry wanting to dump paint in cho and ginny when luna is right there.
>>223798841The only cool magic from LotR was the scene where Saruman tries to cause an avalanche while the Fellowship was on Caradhras
>>223798852The thinking man's question
>>223798759Many such cases!
Why did nothing come of the fact that the Moody who teaches Harry all year was an impostor all along. Harry's entire relationship with him is a lie. But he then befriends the real Moody as if they knew each other anyway
>no psycho Dumbledore posting I'll be stretching my legs elsewhere thank you
>>223794687Harry has no bearing on the story whatsoever, if he never came to hogwarts the movie would end up exactly the same, perhaps even ending sooner.
>>223798841Magic in LOTR is not supposed to be a superpower, but an extension of the way living beings interact with nature.
>>223798890What else was there to do. That aside I don't even know if the real Moody survives the book he appears in.
>>223794687why couldn't they just let harry stay at hogwarts over the summer instead of housing him with abusive family? He had stacks of gold in his bank, why not just stay in a hotel, or even with hagrid. The weasleys couldnt spare a couch space? >he was safer with the mugglesNo he wasn't, everyone knew exactly where he was. Stupid
>>223798913Thanks for proving my point Tolkienhomo. It's just gay faggot shit.
>>223798904He had an impact on his Quidditch team but as far as the Stone is concerned, yeah pretty much
>>223794687why didnt harry just shoot voldemort in the head with a 38.?
>>223798890He barely has any association with the real Moody, but still calls him Professor out of reflex. And retrieves his eye from the ministry later.
>>223794687with all the magical utilities they had dumblesnore couldnt just fake his death? seems like he wanted to die
>>223798967rowling made dumblydore be stupid for a reason she pulled out of her ass so he can put on a cursed ring to kill himself slowly
>>223798928Yes, it actually feels mythical and otherwordly, something tied to higher beings.In HP magic is boring as hell because of how many strictly defined limits and rules there are, to the point the main villain loses because of a technicality.
>>223798904>Harry doesn't kill the Basilisk>Lucius's plot to unseat Dumbledore succeeds Of course anon, you are so right
>>223798939never spin it out to seven volumes that way brah
>>223798841Good on you for keeping your malding in check and not overreacting
>>223798983I think rowling realised that technically didn't actually do anything to stop Voldemort since Quirell and him never figured out the Mirror until Harry showed up. So without Harry, Dumbledore shows up and blasts Quirell into the next dungeon and finito
>>223798979No it feels like a gay Mystery Box with nothing in it.>oh Gandalf is so fucking awesome you guise>confronted with an actual problem>uses his words>literally tells everyone to run away>then a sword>comes back as Faggot the White>oh great he came back looking powered up so he can do literally fucking nothing againThis makes Tolkienfags literally piss and shit themselves
>>223794687why didnt harry polyjuice into voldomort and give bellatrix the old wood wand? Why couldnt he polyjoice into malfoy and masturbate in inappropriate places knowing he'd be seen?
>>223794687Apparently time travel magic devices exist but nobody seems to be using them much
>>223799043He couldn't brew that potion by himself, so actual skill issue
>>223798928>Tolkien is nothing like my animesloppa therefore its gay faggot slopOkay
>>223798506The map might not be able to show voldy if he's inhabiting someone
>>223799052>be Voldemort>know Time Turners exist>don't make getting one a top priority>fix your shit that wayLiterally dumber than Thanos, and that nigga be literally crazy with his half the universe solve everything forever stupid shit.
>>223797283If that's the case why doesn't Voldemort use it against Dumbledore in their duel, or any death eater use against their opponents in fights rather than all the waste of time spells they used.
>>223794687why did voldomort make the horcruxs personal items that people would obviously find?
>>223799059I read the Hobbit as a kid because my mate told me it was 'teh awesome' and it was the gayest most annoying pointless wank I ever read. When I told him that he got pissy just like your average Tolkienfag.I figured I'd give the movies a chance because faggots were praising those and it was the same lame and gay pointless boring shit.Fuck the hell off.
>>223799033The point of Gandalf the White is that he returned, not as merely am advisor or guide, but as an actual pro-active leader.He's the one who brought the reinforcements to Helm's Deep and who held Minas Tirith while Rohan's army arrived.Also keep in mind magic in LOTR is influenced by Tolkien's view that power is inherently corruptive.In the War of the Ring specifically the Valar chose to act in a far more subtle way, sending Gandalf and the other Maiar to guide, because they once did the opposite, all the Valar and Maiar came crashing down on Morgoth using the full extent of their powers, and this resulted in countless deaths and the continent of Beleriand being destroyed.
>>223799095He was pretty self obsessed
>>223799102what was the point when aragorn had an army of unkillable zombie ghosts that just rolled everyting?
>>223799020Right. So your position is understood clearly, you don't think Harry is necessary for the story of Harry Potter? I completely understand if you're saying this as a way of critiquing Rowling's writing
>>223799102We never saw how powerful Gandalf supposedly was after all the gay shit about if he put on the ring it would be the end of the fucking world.Apparently if he put it on he'd wave his stick around and throw hobbits telekinetically, maybe stand in the middle of the road and yell at them so they couldn't pass. Oh fucking noes!
>>223799137Only as far as the first movie is concerned. Harry didn't actually do anything to save the Stone, he just got himself knocked out before Quidditch. He is far more instrumental in the main plot in the later books.
>>223799123That was a movie thing.In the books the ghosts couldn't touch anyone, they just scared away all the Mordor troops in the boats until they all jumped and drowned, and Aragorn then used those ships to bring reinforcements from southern Gondor.
>>223799147The Valar made the Maiar appear in the form of old men and restricted their powers precisely to avoid a power clash with Sauron in fear the collateral damage would destroy Middle Earth.
>>223799100>Outing yourself so blatantly as someone who is painfully retardedOkay. You clearly are the sort that needs a character called Tom Exposition in every medium that you consume
>>223799162Do you people know how retarded you sound?Trekkies sound a bit stupid when they talk about fictional locations and stuff, but Tolkienfags sound like total homosexuals.
>>223799177>ur dumbStick to Harry Potter.
>>223794687Why did he decide to stuff a student down the pants of another student?
>>223799184Butthurt pseud, just like the 'professor' he sucks off.
>>223795589I don't have this exactly but every use of the charm that creates a portkey is monitored. Fudge complained to Dumbledore about it when he sent Harry back to hogwarts. Think about the seventh book when they jinx the word voldemort. Fake moody took the trophy to the center of the maze and portkeyed himself. It was already enchanted to bring the victor to the beginning of the maze. He portkeyed it to bring Harry to the graveyard before it
>>223799149Agree with you entirely then. Up until the revival of Voldemort, the first few books were very low stakes. Just a magical boy in a whimsical setting
>223799195Don't worry, you can have the last word.
>>223794687I've rewatched all of them recently, all i can say is that i really miss Alan Rickman.
>>223799208Not much whimsical about the Basilisk though. I actually wish more of books had lower stakes instead of either Voldi showing up or the School getting closed so students don't die.
>>223795592Only Dumbledore worked out he had horcruxes. And he tried to get rid of them. Voldemort would never put a part of his soul into something common. That's what makes him voldemort
>>223799236>Only Dumbledore worked out he had horcruxes.Regulus Black figured it out too and even managed to steal one.
>>223799147The Maiar were expressly forbidden from excessive use of their powers, so as better interact and integrate themselves with the mortals
>>223798913kill yourself malfoidtranny touristyou will never belong here.
>>223799247That and to make sure Beleriand 2.0 doesn't happen
>>223799192shitskin fag
>>223799248Dilate please.
>>223799248seethe
>>223799192Bravo Internet.
>>223796074I think it's a plot point where they traditionally just wear robes and maybe underwear but with influx of muggle-born wizards they started wearing normal clothes underneath, hence James Potter & Co. finding it incredibly fucking funny that Snape wore nothing under his robes.
>>223799248>Malfoidtranny tourist Okay. Why are you malding, genuinely >>223799247
>>223799273Thanks.
>>223798939Guns are forbidden in the UK.
>>223799279Fuck off Shad, before I call the FBI and point out your hard drive could do with an inspection.
>>223799224You'd have to assume it'd be because overall story is following children to teenagers to young adults. As they age, the narrative has to match them to keep it interesting. Rowling did a shit job and winged it but
>>223795347>>223794843There's an expectation that a wizard would eventually figure out there's something wrong and get help or be helped, any prevention of that would just simply be kidnapping. You're still "you" whilst under the effects but you're basically drunk. Everyone around you would notice it.Imperiatus takes away any agency, you become a passenger in your own body. It's near impossible to resist long term for the vast majority of wizards (Harry briefly disobeyed a simple command in a minor way and only through injuring himself, this was considered exceptional). It's also incredibly difficult to spot so you generally remain under it until it's dispelled.
>>223799224>Not much whimsical about the BasiliskA basilisk would fucking die if it hears the cry of a rooster.
>>223799087Voldemort spams it at their duel at the ministry. Thats why Dumbledore uses the figures from the fountain >>223799100
>>223799320Yeah but in the end Ginny took care of all those cocks by herself without issue.
>>223795592Because when he dies he'd be bound to a block of cement in pitch black undersea. He clearly needs help or at least someone or something to interact with to actually come back from death.
>>223799192The Americans are asleep, so you're not going to have the usual excited back and forth with other pedo anons
>>223799327Should have left Ginny in the Chamber of Secrets, at least she could have benefitted from the lack of sunlight.
>>223794687Why didn't they just snipe Voldermorter with a sniper rifle?
>>223799100Omg I just worked out you're an Aussie and you're shitposting. You little rascal you. Well done
>>223797308A mother who throws herself in front of the baby with the full knowledge it will kill her. Not to mention she's shown as incredibly kind hearted and there's a good chance she has a level of love that only a small number of mothers have, on top of being a powerful wizard.It's not especially unlikely that this was the only time Voldemort ever encountered something like that. The fact it's known by Dumbledore and his allies also implies that although it verged on a miracle what happened, it's also not unthinkable.
>>223799348Can't even imagine how unhinged aussie Wizards would be
>>223799238Good catch
>>223799348Yeah, because nobody could ever hate your gay shit. Whatever helps you sleep at night when you have your boyfriend's dick in your arse.
>>223799354So if Molly, Tonks or Ms. Crouch tried that trick, their son would've just died? Sounds like bs to me, as if rowling only thought about it for 5 minutes
>>223799356>Aussie wizards make hoop snakes and drop bears real and incredibly deadly, all for the sole purpose of exporting them to other wizarding communities because they think it's funnyI imagine they'd be exterminated with impunity, not from hate but fear
>>223799087It's difficult to cast, has side effects from overuse and other spells are more practical. Also, a lot of death eaters aren't that evil that their go to is a "possible fate worse than death" spell.
>>223799368Now you're being incredibly blatant about lmao
>>223799392>actual aussies sell a highly flammable type of tree to californias >constant wildfiresYeah, the magical version would be an absolute menace
>>223799326So what are the mechanics of it then? Says it can't be counter spelled or deflected in anyway. Can you dodge it? Can the caster miss with it? - is it like throwing a stone as someone. Can you use a physical object as a shield?
>>223799415From what I remember of the books it is a projectile that can miss or be blocked
>>223799376No, what specifically needs to happen is the willing choice. Snape begs voldemort to spare Lilly so he offers to let her go. She refuses so he kills her. Harry triggers the protection by walking willingly into a situation where he thinks he will die
>>223799415Honestly, think of it like bullets
>>223799428Sounds contrived and unsatisfying to me but sure, whatever. I prefer the Malfoid version of true, actual love much better anyway. But thanks for explaining
>>223799069Time turners don't work like that. Alle they can do is send you baxk a few hours, but things that already happened, happen regardless.
>>223799376You see Molly completely overpower Bellatrix just because she *almost* killed Ginny.It's ultimately just a case of circumstances. Hopeless situation, no fighting just a desperate sacrifice out of pure love by a powerful wizard. No one else is ever put in these exact circumstances. Remember he only cared about killing Harry and had promised to Snape to spare Lilly which was the only reason she was even alive to perform the sacrifice. In normal circumstances he's directly kill the parents first, then decide what to do with any children.
>>223799438>Aim for center mass, Miss Malfoy.
Without looking anything up, could you resolve the plot of Harry Potter if you were in his place year 1? The one thing that I think fucks me is I have no idea where the locket horcrux is at that point. At the Black house?
>>223799452>You see Molly completely overpower BellatrixYes and I love that scene, it makes sense to me that Molly would push herself beyond her means in that situation. IIRC she had already lost one of her children at that point and just went barking mad.The Snape and Lily thing does make some sense and I can accept it fine for the initial defeat of voldi but his actual defeat in the last book felt stupid and contrived, partly because of muh love magic
>>223799458I think Moody would fucking love guns if he were allowed to. I could see him carrying a revolver just because no motherfucker alive would ever see it coming.
>>223799460Ultimately not much you could do, you were prophesised to die so a bunch of shit would take place regardless. Telling Dumbledore about the horcruxes you know about, how the Basilisk and sword of Griffendor can destroy them would likely mean he would stay alive for the battle of hogwarts though.There's a non-zero chance that Dumbledore would kill you with them. It's left really vague if he ever actually cared about Harry or was just manipulating him.
>>223799444But that's the point. Dumbledore even explained it to Harry, its all about the choices you make. Harry and Lilly and so many others chose love. Voldemort never bothered. He's selfish and shallow. He literally COULD have any other death eater kill Harry. But hes petty and vindictive and needs to do it himself because anything else would ruin his self esteem
>>223799491There's absolutely no reason he wouldn't have guns. They're mechanical and chemically propelled, no electronics or advanced technology needed. Chemistry still works or they wouldn't have potions or alchemy. Moody would be strapped at all times.
>>223799491>if he were allowed to.The ministry probably took away his gun license.
>>223799504He didn't die because muh choices or muh love but because of the fine print on the elder wand. He also had to kill Harry himself since anything else would reveal weakness.>>223799512Barty Crouch jr, would've eaten shit if Moody had been strapped, agreed.
>>223799521>the ministry was afraid Moody would become too powerfulI can believe it
>>223794753It's the moment I lost interest in the series. If it wasn't my generation's thing to do, I wouldn't have bothered to watch the rest of them. >>223795609Reddit opinion.
>>223799498Could you horcrux Voldemort out of yourself? You can also nab Scabbers and clear Sirius's name but yeah I agree there's a non zero chance that Dumbledore would just waste you after you give him the strategy guide.
>>223799548To be fair, you couldn't even blame Dumbledore for it since that is the correct thing to do.
>>223799548AV is pretty much the only way we're shown that you can rip a soul out of a body. The prophecy still would require you to die.
>>223799567>AV is pretty much the only way we're shown that you can rip a soul out of a bodyUnless you're a dementor.
>>223799498I always thought Dumbledore pitied Harry, in terms of his eventual fate. He did make peace with the fact that he had to die at some point and did nothing to save Harry from it
>>223799613Was there even anything to be done?
>>223799556>Dumbledore just stone cold murders Harry>It's the right thing to doIt's true though, he could litrully get away with it
>>223799624There was nothing they could do, honestly
>>223799522The fine print of the elder wand narratively just let's Harry not be a murderer because voldemorts own spell kills him Also the reason Dumbledore pushed Harry was because once he hears that Voldemort took his blood he knows that Harry can fight Voldemort without losing. Harry gets an inkling of this before he goes into the forest. He realized he was marked for death and Dumbledore was pulling strings to minimize casualties
>>223799613He wasn't evil but he was 100% focused on his end goal at all costs. You could argue that he lost all his genuine love when he got his sister killed and the rest of his life was atonement. You could go further and argue that he's the polar opposite of Snape whose atonement was driven by his love for Lilly (and who by the end even cared for Harry).
>>2237947533 is massively overrated.While it is an okay flick it ditches plenty of charm of the first two and it never returns.
>>223799689>Snape whose atonement was driven by his love for Lillyonly makes me that much more contemptuous of him t b h. she's like the fucking Lyanna Stark of the series
>>223799300uw0t
>>223799689Hermione says Dumbledore loved Harry and I think you can take that as canon. He gave Harry the best odds he could and they worked
>>223794753The first two movies the actors are kids. Even the first two books have a very simple writing style. The third book is more mature and also happens to be the movie where the kids have gone through puberty
>>223799714Hermoine knew even less about Dumbledore's nature than Harry did. Lots of people in the later books warn about how he uses people as puppets and even Snape hates his indifference.
>>223799689No, Dumbledore loved Harry after a fashion. He did the math and decided that Harry dying was the right thing to do, not the good thing to do
>>223799734Hermione was the author's self insert actually. Her saying that was for the audience's sake
>>223798078Black mesh thong. When she bothers to wear any at all.
>>223794753>not a (...) butreddit style posting is here
Remus and Sirius should have ended up together
>>223799810Not a racist but you are a stupid fucking nigger
>>223799734Dumbledore gave hermione the bard book because he trusted her to push back against Harry obsessing over the hallows. They barely interacted but there obviously was some sort of understanding between the two
The Houses are sad to be equal and the Slytherins are said to not be all evil We never really see this
>>223796581kek, this is a hilarious revelation
>>223797405Magic Israel
>>223799970Hey they wear little hats too
>>223796074So there was nothing separating most of the skin and prying eyes but a flimsy robe? -gulps-
>>223799895Of course the 'Good Slytherin' is just someone who doesn't care about Pureblood stuff and is perfectly alright with allowing them to slowly die out.
>>223794687Are there ever years where a house doesn't get new students? How does Slytherin keep getting new students? I would be ashamed if I got put in Hufflepuff.
How the fuck did a broke single mother plot out the entire Harry Potter series, every character and their trajectory, every major and minor plot point, every room, every encounter, every scene, before putting pen to paper on that first book? How did she find the time?
>>223800000Checked, in theory it could happen but it seems there is always enough students for each of the 4
>>223799999Maybe instead of sucking off Voldemort they should have dedicated their efforts to pumping out kids.
>>223794687>Plop Holes in Harry Potterwell it is a British "public school"
>>223800009She fucking didn't mate. She winged it
>>223798852>a major pothole is harry wanting to dump paint in cho and ginny when luna is right there.Luna is too pure.
>>223800055pure SEX!
>>223794687>Snitch gives your team over 9000 points and ends the game>if you don't catch the snitch presumably you keep playing until you die of exhaustion or something>No rule for what happens in you catch the snitch at the same time>Allowed to indiscriminately assault other players, so every game should just start with one player obtaining the ball and then the other team unceremoniously beating the shit out of them to get it, then that person comes under attack. and so on, until everyone is dead and that person wins>extra players should be trying to kill the other team's seeker and goalie>if they score a few points against you in the meantime, who gives a shit, you'll win when you catch the snitch anyway>what if someone who isn't a Seeker catches the snitch>if you're a Beater, can you hit it like a golf ball at the Seeker?>can you hold onto it and just hand it to your Seeker?>if not, what happens if you accidentally run into it or accidentally hit it and your Seeker gets it? Do you suffer any kind of penalty?>If the magic mirror shows what you desire, when people get addicted to it, does it start showing them looking in the mirror?>if it was taken away wouldn't their greatest desire be the mirror, until they actually got it again, so would they see the mirror when they finally got it or would that change before they could see it?>why did Ron a boy going through puberty at the time see himself winning the Quidditch Cup and not Herminie's tits?>this goes back to seeing the mirror question. He wants to win the Quidditch Cup so all the witch chicks will want to suck his dick, so it's a means to an end - his real desire>If you got two mirrors and faced them at each other and stood between them what would you see?>One mirror should see Harry with his parents, so wouldn't it think he already has his parents, and show him his second desire,(probably Hermione's tits again), or would he see infinity parents? When obviously that's wrong he only wants two
>>223799069You can't change the past with time turners. The Cursed Child is not canon.
>>223800022How? Do you have proof of that? It all fits together too well.
>>223800080What about Prisoner of Azkaban?
>>223800009She didn't plan it all out. That's why the first could serve as stand alone books and the last could not. Seat of her pants
>>223800055does anyone actually give a toss about chingchong chang?
If the Sorting Hat just lets students pick what house they want, wouldn't the two top houses get stacked and Hufflepuff not receive anyone? Or must the sorting be equal among the four houses and the children whose blood is most pure get to decide where they go and the mudbloods don't?
>>223800009A lot of the later writing is 100% her trying to piece together all the stuff from the early books when she hasn't really planned things.That said, she writes a bunch of detective novels, she clearly enjoys that part of writing.
>>223800009By parroting an arseload of old "school stories".
Which is the more crowning achievement, the Harry Potter saga or Lord of the Rings?
>>223800138>Hufflepuff not receive anyonenobody wants to admit being a slytherin type brah
>>223800150Are you fucking joking? HP is trash in comparison
>>223800150no
>>223800150Didn't Lord of the Rings consolidate together what we now know as fantasy. So it's not even close.
>>223800009Rowling plagarised Good Omens, the Schools of Magic and a few others that escape memory. Last three books were entirely her own design however
Anyone with the magic map knows who is fucking who if they look at it every night. Any wonder Fred and George were always smirking and laughing. Just sayin'.
>>223800178not really, that was Ed Plunkett (Lord Dunsany)
>>223800150All modern Fantasy derrives from Lord of da Raingz. Love it or hate it, it's a trvkenvke
Did Neville ever remember what he forgot?I fucking hate loose plot threads.
Bellatrix jobbing to a mother
>>223799970
>>223800200Ron getting bummed by Peter is reason enough to be in a jolly mood. Gay jokes are required for any brothers happiness.
>>223800221The series is Neville remembering he has balls
>>223800019>oh no the number of purebloods are dwindling >never pairs up bloodlines, let's entire families die outSomeone should have taken one for the team and married Voldemort's mother.
>>223800231Malfoid name should be Cassiopeia
>>223800221He forgot to wear his robe, everyone else is wearing one.
>>223800213It absolutely doesn't and if you follow the worried old professor's correspondence (I wouldn't ask you to take *my* word for it) you'll see how right I am.
>>223799836Remus and Tonks did come out of left field, but then we only have Harry's POV.
someone made a malfoid thread, everyone migrate
>>223800256I actually liked that pairing and then they died.
>>223800248He obviously forgot not to sit next to blacks.
>>223800256>"using your family as an excuse for not fighting directly? YOU COWARD">*Tonks and Remus die in the final battle leaving their half werewolf son an orphan*
>>223800256thought I was going to join this thread in a spirit of malice but etc
>>223800116>What about Prisoner of Azkaban?What did they change? Everything that they did while in the time loop already happened the way it did the first time they were experiencing all of it.
>>223800078Follow up question: what if I most desired something like the Marauder's Map? Is what I'm seeing the map itself? Can I read it like a map, is the information shown on the image presented to me by the mirror accurate to the current information on the map itself? If so, what's the latency on the transmission of that information?Could I use the Mirror of Erised to see the answer sheet for an upcoming exam? Could I use it to see the combination to a safe which it is my heart's desire to open?
>>223800297Burn 'em the fucking hell out, anon. We get too little of this approach.
>>223800255Which letters? The ones where he's rambling about old anglo-saxon language? Or the ones about needing critique? Or the ones about old germanic legend?Genuinely, are you trying to infer that his editor is the one who actually wrote the books?
>>223800304>what if I most desired something like the Marauder's Map?I'm sure she's (?) fit to answer you, anon.
>>223795592Not really a plot hole because this is kind of specifically one of the first things that Harry asks when Dumbledore reveals the whole Horcrux thing (in the book, anyway) and Dumbledore says that Tom was too much of a raging narcissist to dirty a piece of his soul putting it into anything that wasn't at least marginally as unique and special as he considered himself.
>>223800312>Which letters?The ones in which he drivels and sweats about people like Dunsany, Walter de la Mare, ER Eddison, Mary Renault (!) etc
>>223800259Be the change you want to see anon. Make it subtle, like about the new hogwarts show. Mods will delete if it's too blatant
>>223800304They were able to hide a Philosophers stone in the mirror. I'm sure a projected Marauder's map would show accurate information. It would just be reversed.
>>223794843Crouch is a much better actor in the books. And Dumbledore did suspect something was up with Quirrell, he just didn't think Voldemort was actually inside him.>>223795589>why did nobody investigate Myrtle properly?2 people did, Harry and riddle.>why did no one except Harry hear the gigantic snake living under Hogwarts?Parselmouths are very rare>why didn't Fred and George notice Peter Pettigrew on the map?Yeah this one is odd. Possibly they were just never concerned with looking at other people that weren't nearby teachers or something.>>223795782>why didn't fake Moody just give Harry a Portkey immediately?He needed the rules for portkeys to be lifted, ordinarily it has to be sanctioned by the ministry and only Dumbledore as the headmaster can create them without any pushback.>how did Dumbledore not recognize fake Moody?Crouch was a good actor and studied his target or something>why did the Portkey take Harry back to Hogwarts?That one is clearly explained, all portkeys toggle between their two locations.>>223796231The book clearly says this isn't the case, but it kinda was the case in the first book>>223795591All the most ardent supporters of Voldemort who would do such a thing got locked up. The rest were unironically scared of Harry, or at least Dumbledore's retaliation.>>223797074She wasn't concerned with romantic love so much as love in the Christian sense.>>223795750They're scared of Voldemort but he's not their chief fear, remember all of them are too young to have actually met the guy. I think in a non children's book series a boggart would be much more horrific and turn into dreamed up horrors beyond comprehension, but you know.>>223797335Well he did take over the magical UK almost and he would have continued I guess.>>223798979>the main villain loses because of a technicalityAn often repeated myth. Voldy lost largely long before the battle of hogwarts ever started, and he lost because of love.>>223798921Love protection
>>223800332(Also Lewis, whose productivity Tolkien envied and resented.)
>>223800284Is the son actually a werewolf, I thought it spreads through bites?
>>223798975He was always meant to be fallible>>223798967He did>>223799689He wanted to not love Harry as it would make it easier to focus on stopping Voldemort and preparing Harty to be sacrificed, but grew conflicted about the whole thing and grew to love Harry anyway. It's why he could never tell him that Harry must sacrifice himself, and its why Harry has the figure out everything on his own and choose to sacrifice himself at the end. Ironically, it might not have worked if he'd told Harry he had to sacrifice himself, because a less mature Harry would have tried to fight it more strongly and perhaps even hated Dumbledore for it. >>223800119But a lot of details were planned out from the first book. You can tell she at least knew how things would end, roughly.>>223800147Only at the beginning>>223800143She planned the ending.>>223800078>quidditchHorrible sport and you're rightRon was 11 in the 90s and wasn't exposed to muggle stuff, he didn't get attracted to Hermione sexually until at least year 4. It's not about the chicks at that point but about getting the recognition and distinction from his brothers.
>>223800332The ones he said inspired him and compares himself to. Come the fuck on, are you taking the piss
>>223800334>be Voldemort >movie starts>tell Quirrell to "ACCIO PHILOSPHER'S STONE!">THE END
>>223800363Stuff like the Basilisk tooth destroying horcruxes is definitely her trying to plug some gaps.
>>223800353>Crouch was a good actor and studied his target or somethingHe was the best Death Eater after or perhaps even compared to Pettigrew.Voldemort even said so.
>>223800365>The ones he said inspired him and compares himself to.Away to fuck! As you'd know if you were familiar with the "Letters..." he complains about all of them; I'm disinclined to treat you as fit to participate in this dispute.
The Basilisk somehow only petrifying people and not killing them in Book 2
>>223800378>Away to fuck!Whaur ye fae pal?
>>223800363>But a lot of details were planned out from the first book. You can tell she at least knew how things would end, roughly.No they weren't. You could read the first few as standalone books. You could not do that with the last books
>>223800374The Basilisk tooth is fine since that thing is an actual beast of legend, but Ron just being able to enter the Chamber in the last book because he mimics parseltongue is just retarded.
>>223800397Harry talks in his sleep.
>>223800389Jedburgh, if that's at all interesting.
>>223800378>I'm the bastion of knowledge and truthBit up yourself aye cunt. Actual audacity
>>223800284Harry actually tells Lupin to stop fighting and go be a Father, and they actually fight over it and have a brief falling out. Turns out he was right.>>223800374That happened in book 2. She planned it early on, the diary was always supposed to be a horcrux and the fang/venom was always supposed to destroy it.>>223800392Yes, that doesn't mean she didn't have a rough idea of the ending from the first chapter. Just because the last books aren't standalone doesn't mean that she didn't do that. And I would argue, with more exposition like in the early books they could have been more standalone.
>>223800386How do you miss it being a major plot point over indirect eye contact not being fatal?
>>223800397Ron copying Harry was like Sinbad watching the thieves say "Open Sesame" once and then when they leave copying it for himself.
>>223800409That idea is so gay if it were a man it would fart cum out of its ass.
>>223800422It's very whedonesque
>>223800386Hermione broke the code on that. Everyone observed the basilisk indirectly, like through a camera, or through a ghost, or a reflection, she just couldn't prevent herself from getting petrified but it beat the alternative.
>>223800413>Bit up yourself aye cunt. Actual audacityI think that in writing this you knew perfectly well how impossible it was to be insulted by it.
>>223800419Parseltongue is not a variation of french or english, it's a series of fucking hissing sounds that Ron heard like 6 years ago. Fuck off with that dogshit idea
>>223800426Almost pre-whedonian
>>223800428I'm not a pom, so that's on you for assuming
>>223800445Neither am I, if that means what I think it does. Congratulations on making such an exhaustive circuit of the houses!
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>>223800434Rude. Some languages have a series of clicking sounds.
>>223800443It's post. Buffy already existed after all
>>223800463True but I don't expect Rowling would've known or cared
>>223800457You sure? You're sarcastic and bitchy like a pom
>>223799745>He did the math and decided that Harry dying was the right thing to do, not the good thing to do>>223799782>Black mesh thong. When she bothers to wear any at all.Nonsense, Malfoid or Ginny maybe.Hermoine wears practical white cotten pantsu that comfortably hold a winged pad.>>223799861>They barely interacted but there obviously was some sort of understanding between the twoHe clearly understood his students very well, he gave her the time turner as well, trusting her once with it in the first place and then telling her how and when to abuse it later.>>223799999>the 'Good Slytherin' is just someone who doesn't care about Pureblood stuffAny ambitious political type might be there.More than a few influencer types too, it's never said but it wouldn't be surprising if Rita Skeeter were a Slytherin.
>>223800474True, but Buffy did influence a bunch of things after. And I don't think whedonism started with whedon, he just popularized and put it in everything until all his proteges started spamming it. I think Rowling arrived at a similar place for subversive humor by the last book, not that she directly copied Whedon. And too her credit, she used it sparsely.
>>223800000>I would be ashamed if I got put in Hufflepuff.I think most of the medical wizards/witches are in Hufflepuff, they have strong work ethics, care about people and get shit done without complaining or grandstanding.The'd make good soldiers and aurors and bureaucrats and teachers.
>>223800417 >>223800427I'm well aware of the indirect viewing rule, but referring to the fact that no one ever saw it directly and died. The odds of that are unbelievable and you can only chalk it up to it being children's literature.
>>223800506>I don't think whedonism started with whedon"Guh?"
>>223800506I liked some of her own humour, especially from the earlier books. Gred and Feorge are always fun and I like stuff like>Harry discovered that there were 432 ways to commit a foul and that they had all happened during the Quidditch final of 1835
>>223798156>pause in-between spells and shit with no logic as to why they can't just keep machine-gunning spell after spell at a motherfuckerBecause they're playing chess with attack spells and have to think their tactics through once the moves they planned are done.Have you ever been in a fight that didn't instantly end and stopped for a second to take stock of how things are working and whether you need to switch tactics?Your opinions on magical duels are as clueless as your knowledge of fights and duels in general it seems.
>>223800409https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcBOF95eTps
Do wizard supremacists have any inkling of how utterly outmatched they are by muggles? They think the killing curse is hot shit, imagine how they would react if they saw a machine gun fire mowing down dozens of people, and don't get me started on WMD.
>>223800532I always thought so too. Even Malfoy can be pretty funny at times, even if he's trying to insult. Or that time Fred and George were bashing Voldemort in the face with snowballs.
>>223799895>>223800505I mean this is just over a decade after Wizard Hitler 2 (not to be confused eith Muggle Hitler 1, who did nothing wrong), who explicitly preached blood purity and Slytherin Uber Alles. Those Slytherin students who aren't orphans because their parents are in Azkaban were raised by ex-Death-Eaters who avoided jail time by ratting or chickening out and taught the same shit from early childhood. Obviously for that particular generation the majority of them were on the side of the series' baddies by default.>>223799999Also checked.
