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>Joseph Smith was called a prophet
>(Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb)
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>>223816741
>Mormans have a higher White fertility rate than the national average
>(smart smart smart smart smart)
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Which ones are the greatest LoLcows of Christianity? JWs or Mormons?
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>>223817006
Both get mogged by Amish/Mennonite
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>>223817006
I personally find the guys who handle poisonous snakes hilarious
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>>223817006
JWs, unlike Mormons the can be considered barely Christians
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Man these two really have no ideas. I think its time for gen x to collectively retire.
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>>223817006
Mormons arent lolcows, they own an entire state and make up most of the staff in the CIA
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>>223817006
I'm a JW. Why do you hate us ? We just want to worship the true God in peace

https://bitterwinter.org/a-new-hate-crime-jehovahphobia-1-uscirf-reports-increased-jehovahs-witness-persecution/
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>>223817124
Mormons believe in alien ancestry and god planets. JWs just don’t believe in the Trinity or that Jesus was actually god, only his messenger. If anything JW is actually more palpable than other Christian denominations.
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>>223817154
You seem confused.
Amusement =\= hate.
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>>223817154
No bro, you keep showing up at people’s houses
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>>223816807
Oops! All Daughters
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>>223817154
Redpill me on jehovaphobia
Are there any slurs that I'm not aware of?
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>>223817195
>everyone should just have sons
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>>223817154
Stop knocking on my door and getting my dogs riled up while I'm trying to sleep, man.
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>>223816807
Yeah because what the planet needs now is more humans running around on it
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>>223817175
I go by the same type of shit, its all very sensible and beautiful. You treat the body as a planet, your organs and cells as citizens, your mind as the leader(maybe a tyrant, a collaborator with foreign forces, a benevolent ruler, one who lived for his people), and then take all input as foreign (alien) influence you have to vet for being either symbiotic or parasitic. Bad judgement here means letting an alien invasion occur
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>>223816741
I'm not going to defend mormon's silly beliefs (the south park episode hits the nail on the head) but it is interesting how anti-mormon violence is rarely taught about in schools and almost never talked about when certain types like to bring up "historical injustices".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawn%27s_Mill_massacre
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>>223817214
>because what the planet needs now is more *White* humans running around on it
Correct
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>>223817203
They never recovered from Jemimah’s Witnesses
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>>223817212
>>223817189

We just want to save you from the incoming destruction of this world
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>>223817006
Neither of those are Christian
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>>223817154
Dont worry anon. Your insane lunacy is the one true lunacy and all the rest are fake!
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>>223817203
My mom called them Jehovah's Witlesses
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>>223817236
>Jemimah’s Witnesses
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>>223817225
That’s great schizo, but I’m talking in the literal sense, not metaphorical.
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>>223817246
>Jehovah's Witnesses
>A monotheistic and nontrinitarian Restoration Christian denomination
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

>>223817253
My beliefs are based on divine revelation.
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>>223817233

because the Mormons were traitors and it was justified
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>>223817263
>My beliefs are based on divine revelation.
mmhmm, that's right. It is totally real dude!
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>>223817245
You’re an invasive and untrustworthy doom's day cult and a bunch of crybullies who wont even tolerate the dismissal of the others who already believe in that same doomsday theory but simply have different strategies for it
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>>223817281
The Bible is the Word of God. JWs simply follow what it says because it’s has a supernatural origin.
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>>223817262
You’ll never make a religion kid, even for yourself, and you’ll never direct a home of your own life let alone anyone else else’s
You’ll never get the formula in time, minutes to go.
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>>223817283
We don’t force anyone to adhere to our message of salvation. You are free to reject or accept it, but don’t come crying to us when Christ returns.
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>>223817214
This but unironically.
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>>223817307
>okay hahah but you’re going to Hell and Jesus won’t save you!!!
Crybully behavior
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>>223817203
They're a doomsday cult and their original leader failed to predict the date of the end of the world twice.
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>>223817285
No, there is no god. It's not even a question or something that "no one really knows". Grow up my guy.
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>>223817303
Direct the film* of your own life
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>>223817264
they believe in christ the redeemer and that's good enough for me
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>>223817322
The reason we evangelize is to save others. Me I am already saved, so we are doing this for you. But if you don’t want to go to paradise then that’s on you
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>>223817285
If you ever realize Jehovah's Witnesses are a weird cult and you leave you should try real Christianity instead of abandoning it.
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>>223817337
>there is no god

Who created the universe ?
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>>223817359
Jod.
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>>223817352
>pay for protection or we'll break your legs
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>>223817359
The universe has always existed. Time doesn't exist.
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>>223817357
Satan also wants us to stop worshipping Jehovah. Isn’t that funny
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>>223817352
Yeah we know, you've got a solipsistic directive to tell everyone else they're going to Hell unless they... what do you need from us again?
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>>223817359
it always was
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Mormon recruiters deliberately target depressed, damaged and suicidal people. Many of their number have dark histories of drug abuse and criminality, so the whole squeaky clean Mormon image is just a charade.
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>>223817322
The Bible should have a passage, just like Islam does, that explicitly states that no human being has the authority to decide who goes to Heaven or Hell, because that judgment belongs to God alone, and condemns those who presume to make it.
Watching current Christians act exactly like the Pharisees will never not be peak irony.
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>>223817370
JWs don’t practice tithing, nor do they have any money collection during worship, nor do they sell their litterature, nor a paid a clergy.

We do it freely to glorify the Lord’s name and proclaim the coming of his Kingdom, so that every soul may be saved by faith
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>>223817376
How do you look at the fact your founder predicted the end of the world a bunch of times and got it completely wrong? How do you deal with the fact church leaders did it several more times after that? When someone points out you're deflecting away from the fact they literally predicted things and got them wrong by giving post-hoc rationale--how do you live with the cognitive dissonance?
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>>223817393
That’s literally all of religion. They prey on the weak and infirmed.
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>>223817352
>okay but... you're going to Hell, lmfao!
You've got no ammunition, kid
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>>223817006
Seventh day Adventists belong up there too
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>>223817375
>>223817387

WRONG !

The universe was created 14 billion years ago.

Who created it ?

>>223817383
Acts 17:31 ►
"For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”
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>>223817406
>two more weeks
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>>223817263
Non-Trinitarian "Christianity," isn't
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>>223817406
What do you need someone to say for them to be considered 'on board'? When you approach like this, what is it you are hoping you will say, that would not ensure to you we are going to Hell
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>>223817413
Never happened.

"We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them" (Zion's Watch Tower, January 1, 1908, page 4110)
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>>223817393
All religious recruiters do that.
And let's be honest, mormons don't get many converts because people think they're wacky. It's mostly familial because they breed like rats.
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>>223817429
>"For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”
Every Christian who isn't taking it metaphorically believes this, you are not alone in recognizing Judgement Day, I think you just like the idea of owning it and considering yourself the only ones who know about it
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>>223817434
Where is the word trinity in the Bible ? This satanic doctrine was invented in the 4th century

God is one. There is no God but Jehovah
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>>223817456
>We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them
Then why don't you do that? Or least your local practitioner in this thread, why does he just keep telling people they're going to Hell and then when they say they don't subscribe to that claim, you tell them they're going to Hell again?
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>>223817469
>>223817442

Repent before it is too late. Turn to Jehovah God
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>>223817484
We don’t force anyone to adhere to our message of salvation. You are free to reject or accept it, but don’t come crying to us when Christ returns.
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>>223817456
>Never happened
It happened multiple times and a quick Google search will prove it by linking to materials and announcements made by the Jehovah's Witnesses, anon.
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>>223817493
What if I've done that? What if I just did it, again, and didn't tell you? You gonna tell me I'm going to Hell? You're going to sit here in front of God and everyone, and claim to know my relationship with Him and His placement of my soul, just because you figured I don't know God before even knowing who I was when you looked at my front door? How many saved people have you personally condemned, not knowing they were saved? Do you even think about these things?
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>>223817508
>antichtists misquotes our magazines and gullible people believe it instead of reading the exact quotes for themselves

Ok ?
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>>223817429
>Who created it ?
who created god?
no special pleading for you boy
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>>223817508
Anon, you're arguing with a schizophrenic. Don't expect common sense
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>>223817529
>everyone who proves what I'm saying is wrong is automatically a bad actor in league with the antichrist
You seriously can't see how silly that is to say?
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>>223817530
God is the first cause, the unmoved mover. He has always existed

>>223817527
Do you worship Jehovah ?
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>>223817530
>>223817429
When you hit this point you have to reckon that both angles honor or imply the existence of some eternal/timeless force
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>>223817543
I don't. I want to see him tie himself up if I bring up the "1914 generation" and sperg retcon as a cope.
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>>223817543
>it’s schizophrenic to share the Gospel

Why ? Are you calling Jesus a liar ?

>>223817549
And this eternal force is God !
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>>223817545
Yes
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>>223817545
>He has always existed
the universe always exited
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>>223817544
I challenge you to cite me a single JW material that predicts the end of the world.

If you can’t you have to be baptized in the nearest kingdom hall
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>>223817570
>>223817530
Time doesn't exist. We live in one constantly mutating singularity in which our senses have evolved the perception of an illusion structure of a thing called 'time', because we are aging beings with a birth and death condition, with a thinking organ set to reckon with that for survival
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>>223817558
What about the 1914 generation ?

>>223817570
Nope

The universe was created 14 billion years ago.

Who created it ?

Why do you deny science ?
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>>223817564
Do you worship him as a member of the body of Christ ?
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>>223817597
>The universe was created 14 billion years ago.
I would say the universe was put into its current state 14 billion years ago, and don't say that to suggest God here.
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At what point do we realize that a tree is judged by its fruit and therefore the Mormons were right
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>>223817594
That's cool why don't you hold your breathe for 20 minutes.
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>>223817614
Put into its current state by who ?
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>>223817610
Yes, actually
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>>223817597
>Why do you deny science ?
Our current iteration of the universe started 14 bil years ago.
>who crated it
demonstrate that it was created
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>>223817619
Hylic
Time is a function of the flesh.
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>>223817628
It’s expending from an original starting point that appeared 14 billion years ago

Who started it ?
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>>223817621
Greg
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>>223817621
>>223817642
it's how, not who
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>>223817006
JWs are Chris Chan tier. Mormons have wacky beliefs but they're mostly inoffensive.
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>>223817644
Even if we suppose Greg did it, that would make Greg God. And therefore God would still exist

>>223817656
A person made a decision to create the universe, therefore it’s who
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>>223817352
JW is the mlm of christianity
>you can only get to heaven if you save others
The effort to live Godly is what counts, not recruitment numbers
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>>223817661
Name one thing I believe that’s chris chan tier (you won't)

>>223817671
>you can only get to heaven if you save others

I never said that, who are you quoting ?
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>>223817203
Testículos de Jehová but it only works in Spanish
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>>223817663
>A person made a decision to create the universe
oh yeah? how do you know that?
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>>223817663
>A person made a decision to create the universe, therefore it’s who
God was not a person until Jesus
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>>223817692
Because life cannot come from non-life
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>>223817195
Every one of those daughters could marry a Mormon man and have 4-5 children of her own. Daughters and women are the most important gender for perpetuating your in-group.
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>>223817693
Repent of your blasphemy
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>>223817699
>Because life cannot come from non-life
how do you know?
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>>223817006
>Which ones are the greatest LoLcows of Christianity?
Evangelicals are the biggest LoLcow because they're the most fucked up, have the most schizophrenic beliefs, and are the easiest to rile up into anger. The last one is the most important because the purpose of a LoLcow as opposed to a garden variety weirdo is that the LoLcow can be "milked" for content, hence cow.
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>>223817730
That’s one of the fundamentals of logic and observed realities
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>>223817712
I'm pantheistic
God is the universe, thus every person is endowed with the spirit
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>>223817699
>life cannot come from non-life
Well, God, if he exists, is a living being. And he must have come from a place of non-life.
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>>223817748
God is the uncaused cause, the unmoved mover

>>223817740
Repent of your blasphemy
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>>223817739
demonstrate the creator then
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>>223816807
>and they worship israeli's
>dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
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The Bible was written by men, like (You) and me
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>>223817627
Is this what you get when a JW finds out he cant say you’re going to Hell? Silence? Are these the words of the Witnesses of Jehovah?
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>>223817760
See:

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/teenagers/what-your-peers-say/why-believe-in-god/
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>>223817781
There is no salvation outside of the congregation of God

The congregation is the ark, and the flood is coming
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>>223817783
you're gonna have to do better than some video
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>>223817793
when? in two weeks?
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>>223817793
I know that. Do you have any words for your fellow church members?
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>>223817810
Are you a JW ?

>>223817795
The video was made with the Holy Spirit.
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>>223817825
No I’m not an official member
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>>223817006
The wacky megachurches which turn the holy mass into american reality TV
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>>223817806
According to the prophecies, it is soon

>>223817831
It’s great that you took the first steps to become Jehovah’s friend. Let us keep racing on the way to everlasting life my brother
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Mormonism and Scientology have proven that retarded religions can pop out of no where and people will follow obvious con men, so why should we believe that Jesus was any different or that Christianity is any less ridiculous?
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Why did God send Jimmy Savile to molest children and dead bodies? Did this serve some kind of greater, divine purpose? Because I'm not quite seeing it.
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>>223817860
>soon
soon is relative
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>>223817866
Well, yeah, exactly. You just have to look at the efficacy of the work.
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>>223817857
>tfw you're part of a megachurch that isn't whacky enough to be part of American reality TV
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>>223817879
Because England had been very, very bad
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>>223817122
The ones from faces of death?
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>>223817866
Jesus was one of the many self-proclaimed messiahs of his time and place, but as much as I don't believe he was actually the God (and son of God), I do think he actually believed in what he said, as he ended up dying for it, whilst most self-proclaimed messiahs just ran away to Egypt or Syria at first sign of trouble.
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>>223817006
Mormons just because of the entire Joseph Smith debacle. Like it's extremely obvious he made shit up with silly stories like the plates in the hat, made up Egyptian translations later disproved by the Rosetta Stone and just wanted to fuck multiple women. Like it's all recent recorded history.

JWs problem is their church clings on to members for life and covering up sex abuse but every church does that. They do have their own cringe beliefs with the only 100k will be saved view. I remember my mom converting when I was younger and having those people over, like they could not grasp she did not want to go to heaven to rule and was fine with just being on a restored earth.
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>JUST LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS THEY'RE SO NICE WHO CARES IF IT'S DUMB
And then they proceed to enter politics and try to enforce their stupid morality on everyone. This argument against New Atheism was always astroturfed retardation.
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>>223817879
What's the purpose of England as a whole anyway? Why would God purposefully create a swampy island full of ugly people with ugly customs who eat the ugliest food?
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>>223817920
>I do think he actually believed in what he said, as he ended up dying for it

The new testament was not written by anyone who had even met Jesus. Of course the cultists would write great things about their leader and how he performed miracles and such and give meaning to his death, even though he was supposed to free the land from the romans.
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>>223817977
I think Jesus spoke some hippie space aged jazz language and was onto something, but people wouldn’t dig em
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>>223817977
>even though he was supposed to free the land from the romans.
Jesus and Christianity did more to support Roman hegemony than liberate the Jews from it. That's part of the reason why the Jews hated Him, because He didn't submit to the Jewoid desire to form their own bronze age ethno-state that lasts for 100-200 years and is then devoured by a larger government.
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>>223817920
believing something and dying for it doesn't make it true
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>>223817933
The cringiest belief of JW is that the world will end in the particular year, 25-30 years from now, of course as proven by their weird esoteric interpretation of the bible. Then after those years, THE YEAR OF HOLY DOOM!! comes, nothing happens of course, and they asspull another year, 2 to 3 decades later, that is conveniently far (but not too far!), to fearmonger the idiots into their doomcult.
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>>223817920
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>>223818016
I never claimed it does you braindead nigger, learn to read
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>>223818025
Don’t come crying to us once Christ returns
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>>223818043
then why bring it up? plenty people died for all sorts of beliefs
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>>223817977
>The new testament was not written by anyone who had even met Jesus
And you know that how exactly? Four unrelated people decided to make random (yet very similar) shit up about some dude for no reason? Was it an exercise for their little book club or what? What is even your logic besides sheer contrarianism?
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>>223818072
empty threats
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>>223818098
Do you think you know better than Jesus ?
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>>223817006
You can thank protestantism for the rise of all those schizo delusional """christian""" cults

Only catholics and orthodox are actual christians.
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>>223818084
Because you can't be an "obvious con man" if you genuinely believe in the views you're spreading. Being a con man implies you are consciously lying. Easy enough, braindead nigger?
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>>223818106
yes
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>>223818119
>my pedophile priests are the real christians!

The absolute state of cultists
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>>223818072
Just 25 more years! Seventh time is the charm!
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>>223818086
It's the concencus among bible scholars that the gospels were written by people who had never met jesus.
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>>223818150
Shalom
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>>223818150
cool asspull pal
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>>223818158
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>>223818072
I dont assume I would have time to
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Bit of a tangent here, but the first Sherlock Holmes novel has Mormons as the villains. The story emphasises Mormon polygamy and "harems" of the unwilling, and the community is portrayed as a roaming band of outlaws and rapists, a bit like Immortan Joe's tribe in Fury Road. They've done a lot to improve their public image since that book was written.
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>>223818174
>my source is AI quoting reddit
Are you even trying?
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>>223818158
it's the conclusion of christian theologians
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>>223818196
what source would you accept?
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>>223817634
So a mystic disregards flesh?
Sounds like the road of balance really was the right choice
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>>223818211
Hmmmm what kind of source could possibly be more reliable than product of AI digesting random reddit comments? I don't know... Maybe a scientific article published by Bible scholars maybe? Tough one.
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>>223818256
It's common knowledge that this is what modern scholars believe. Look it up your self.

https://academic.oup.com/reference/62341/reference-article-abstract/554110042?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://zondervanacademic.com/blog/who-wrote-the-gospel-of-mark?utm_source=chatgpt.com
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>>223818298
>It's common knowledge
>It just is okay??
>More AI spam
Dude you're a fucking moron just give up. Why even bother arguing about something you have zero idea about? You barely even have an opinion, you just argue for the sake of it. Pathetic.
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>>223816741
I wonder what Matt and Trey have to say about the Talmud. I'm sure there could come up with some stellar jokes about it
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>>223818329
>>More AI spam
>Oxford
>Zondervan academic

It's literally from two peer reviewed journals you dumb fuck. It's exactly what you asked for.
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>>223818342
SP is constantly shitting on jews
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how do Jehovah witnesses and Mormons not see their own religion as heretical when they study basic christian theology?
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>>223818354
How would you know? You haven't read a single letter from those texts, you just asked Chat to give you sources about xyz topic because you know literally nothing about it yourself. You just argue for no reason like the moron you are.
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>>223818419
you haven't read the bible
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>>223816807
Yeah, dummy. The whole reason people are into it is for the arranged marriages.
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>>223818408
Jehovah's Witnesses at least behave in ways that could be chalked up to a weird interpretation of the Bible. It's not like there's not a lot of apocalyptic shit in search of a real-world meaning. And there's something to be said for NOT doing shit that's NOT in the Bible like celebrating secular holidays.
Mormonism is completely fucking ridiculous, it's just steampunk scientology pulled clean out of a couple of schizo's asses. The Book of Mormon isn't even the only new holy book they have hucked together. They're as Christian as that Cao Dai cult in Vietnam that also worships Jesus along with sports celebrities and shit.
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>>223818419
Go read the wikipedia then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Gospels
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>>223818374
If only, Big Head... If only...
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How do mormons answer Matthew 24:23–24, Galatians 1:8, 2 Corinthians 11:14-15, Proverbs 30:5-6, and Revelation 22:18
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>>223816741
Sparlock is far more powerful than Joseph Smith
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>>223818542
good to know you never watched it
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>>223817303
Damn... that is some retarded shit.
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>>223817671
>The effort to live Godly is what counts, not recruitment numbers
It's all fake Mr. Anon.
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85% of all posts itt are me btw
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>>223817933
>only 100k will be saved
Let's assume there's like 1M of good pious JWs in history that did everything they are supposed to do.
You are telling me 9/10 of those will still go to hell according to their beliefs? If yes why trying to convert other people? The less JWs there are the easier is to get one of those 100.000 heaven tickets.
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>>223817006
Mormons are not Christian. Their views are in many ways more distant from Christianity than Judaism or Islam are. That's like considering Aum Shinryokyo or Happy Science "Christian". So it's JWs by default. JWs are still nontriniatrians so they'll still go to hell but that's a whole different matter.
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>>223817205
The Homo Reich isn't going to build itself
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>>223819339
Why do you believe what this anon is saying?
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I support Mormonism as the only true branch of Christianity, but only because I think it'd be funny if they won the denomination battle. Mormons I've met have been generally nice and pleasant people though, unlike catholics and orthos who are profoundly unpleasant and nasty.
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>>223819634
I'm not believing it, I'm just confused about what he said
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>>223817006
Blacks
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>>223819926
The nation of Islam is pure kino althoughtbeit
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>>223816741
I'll give them credit on this episode for turning the whole thing around in the last moment with them basically saying "yeah Mormonism might be stupid, but at least we aren't miserable assholes"
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>>223817006
Scottish Presbyterians are ridiculous to me. The teenagers have the exact same tastes and opinions as their grandparents, and they won't watch anything above a PG rating. What a miserably boring life. They also disapprove of Halloween parties because that's a form of devil-worship.
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It doesn't matter where you live, Islam is your future. Inshallah
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>>223819193
same
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>>223817006
JWs don't even believe in the Nicean concept of Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity so I'd barely even call them Christian adjacent. Mormonism is like Protestant Christianity with a bunch of American fanfiction tacked on. It was a cult originally but it has gotten less cult-y over time.
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>>223818191
damn dude Sherlock Holmes is based as fuck
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>>223816741
When South Park kikes decide to openly shit on something, I see it as a recommendation.
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>>223817154
>We just want to worship the true God in peace
That's the problem. Pacifism is a mortal sin of negligence.
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>>223818191
Doyle was a fucking britbong. Britbongs at the time were more retarded than the modern SJWs and they were offended by everything that could bring any joy to a man.
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>>223817944
Ignorant, racist faggot. The English created everything you use and love. Not just the language, but the Internet, electricity, the computer, telephones, the electric motor, antibiotics, the jet engine, flushing toilets, the industrial revolution, light bulbs and even ATMs.
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>>223818374
but that wasnt what anon was referring to talmud jokes not general references to jews
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>>223820499
The mormons were hated and persecuted in the US at the time. The governor in Missouri issued an extermination order on any mormon entering or living in the state. This was in 1840.
"The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary for the public peace."
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>>223820507
Actually, that was all Welsh, Manx and Scottish
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>>223816807
Is making yourself downright illogical the only way to have white babies? Lmao
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>>223817006
Jehovas witnesses spread around the world, Mormons only exist in one place.
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>>223820623
Not true. Most Mormons live outside the US and they have twice as many members as JW.
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>>223820507
Don't get so full of yourself bong.
Everything that could pass as European civilization until XVIII century was created by France, Italy and Spain. The US is independent only because they got backed up by France.
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>>223820750
Also Netherlands.
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>>223817006
>christianity
>JW
>Mormon
Non-trinitarians aren't christians though. It's like the most basic thing required to be considered one worldwide. Nevermind that one of those groups consider Jesus not to be God but some subordinate angel created by God and the other doesn't consider Jesus to be God the first among humans. Bit hard to claim to be Christian when you explicitly reject Christ.
The greatest lolcows of actual christians are likely split between splinter groups who insist they're the only real christians usually for increasingly inane reasons all with a different time period claim when everyone else stopped being one, groups who make up historical claims with no basis like being 'secret christians' oppressed by X other group that was reclaimed thousand years after the fact or the large mainstream liberal churches that do shit like have women priests preach while dressed up as clowns. (even more than usual)
Doesn't really matter if they're protestant or catholic or orthodox, they all have those type of groups.
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>>223820750
"Independent" but you still speak and write in Bongolese. We have colonised your mouths and brains forever and there's no escaping it.
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>mormons are just nice guys
lmao wasn't a whole town's police force found to be colluding to imprison on false grounds some youtuber over investigating a mormon who blatantly stole 200k in merch from an old man.
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The atheist position ultimately collapses under its own weight because it lacks a sufficient foundation for the very concepts it relies on, such as logic, morality, and reason. Without God, there is no ultimate standard by which truth, ethics, or rationality can be objectively grounded. The atheist is left appealing to consensus, whether it be the authority of experts or the majority opinion of a culture, but these are contingent and mutable. What is considered "rational" or "moral" today may be overturned tomorrow, and without a transcendent source, there is no fixed reference point to judge between competing systems, nor the possibility of authoritative claims.
If the laws of logic are immaterial, universal, and unchanging, then they cannot arise from a purely material, time-bound, and subjective universe. If reason is a valid pathway to truth, then it must be anchored in something greater than human brains that evolved through random processes for survival, not truth. If moral obligations are real and not merely preferences, they require a moral lawgiver whose nature defines goodness.
In denying God, the atheist still borrows from the Christian worldview to make arguments, trusting in the a priori existence of reason, logic, and objective morality, even while rejecting the only foundation that makes those concepts meaningful. Thus, atheism is internally incoherent. It presupposes the very things that only the existence of God can account for, and in doing so, it affirms what it seeks to deny. Without God, the possibility of intelligible experience itself collapses. Atheism is self-refuting
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>>223821080
>Without God, there is no ultimate standard by which truth, ethics, or rationality can be objectively grounded.

What bullshit. Humans are capable of thinking for themselves. It's our unique racial bonus, and you should try it sometime.
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he did nothing wrong
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>>223820838
>international english
>the easiest language fitting perfectly its role of a global pidgin
>ahaha we colonized you
Nigga if your language was as fucked up as French, and French used to be "lingua franca" in both Europe and North America, you could brag about it. But it's not. It's an utility language.
It's like having a pajeet or a raghead bragging about colonizing the world because everybody switched to the decimal Arabic numerals (which were imported from Asia at some point).
Tolkien himself was shitting on the international English for the same reason as he saw it being devoid of whatever "English" depth he loved so much. The next step will be probably Spanglish, judging by what is happening in the US.
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>>223817175
>JWs just don’t believe. . . Jesus was actually god
>other Christian denominations
Not a Christian denomination. Believing Jesus
- was actually God
- bodily rose from the dead
is the bare minimum to be considered Christian.
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>>223821080
What moral law bounded by God should I use to dictate how old my wife can be when I marry her?
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>>223817429
>The universe was created 14 billion years ago.
You mispelled 6000.
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>>223821400
What a brainlet. No wonder redditards mock you. Jesus wasn't the God. He was the son of God in The Holy Trinity.
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>>223817006
Mormons run a US state and city
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>>223817154
I haven't had a JW knock on my door in decades. It's been all Baptists lately.
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Reading recently how the people who massacred Joseph Smith were basically allowed to get away with it is unpleasant history. He turns himself in for some weak charges, promised protection by the governor or mayor dont remember and then they let the mob come in and murder his ass free reign
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Deadass most gaytheists I’ve encountered are nihilist losers with no talents or skills. They are usually midwits at best and unremarkable for the most part.
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>>223817154
I have a retarded brother and when I was a kid your people kept sending some woman who also had a retarded kid to our doors to tell my parents about how when the apocalypse came their retarded kid would be "fixed" in JW heaven.

Pretty despicable.
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>>223821665
The only unpleasant thing is that they weren't allowed to do the same thing to all his followers. Early Mormons were all murderers and cheats.
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>>223821719
You can't say JWs are hypocrites. The world is about to end (2 more weeks, this time for real) and they don't want to see everybody ending up in hell. They would be hardcore sociopaths if they ignored it.
At the same time I am a sociopath and I don't mind billions going to hell to get poked in the ass by devil himself.
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>>223816741
I think this is a reference to Monty Python's Dennis Moore sketch, which in turn is a parody of old Robin Hood serials.

As it goes on, the singers give up trying to sing with dumb dumbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apb18nGQcYI
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>>223821767
>2 more weeks, this time for real
A JW knocked on my door months ago during the start of the Iran war and he was telling me that it was the end.
Deranged doomsday cultists.
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>>223821358
>The next step will be probably Spanglish, judging by what is happening in the US.

Nah, here in europe everyone uses english an obviously we don't have mexicans to warp the language.
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>>223821865
And what do you think will happen when the number of beaners in the US reaches the critical mass
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>>223816807
Incest does have its perks, I guess.
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>>223821752
Nonsense
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>>223817006
you’re all worshipping a jewish religion so you’re all lolcows. lol
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>>223816807
Oy vey, that's antisemitic!
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>>223817733
As a foreigner from a secular country, it's definitely the Evangelicals. They're treated like a legitimate church or faction of Christianity but they're so observably, categorically a cult. It's freaky deaky believe-in-ghosts shit.
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>>223819339
They don't believe in hell, the wicked are just deleted from existence and everyone else if they accept gods laws live on an earth paradise while the extra good members of the church get to live in super heaven and help god judge people.

Like I said, the belief I don't have a problem with which is I rated Mormons as the lolcow
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>>223816741
Seeing what Matt and Tray became makes me think they were on the wrong side of this one honestly
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>>223817006
>Thousands JW die because they refuse blood transfusion because of some schizo interpretation of the Bible, it has always been seen as a test of loyalty
>Last month their pope goes "you can get transfusions now, it's fine lol"
Everytime they turn around some batshit belief they have they have to cope how suddenly it's fine now
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>>223816741
Mormons are like east Asians in the US. They aren't particularly numerous and they're strict, insular, productive, successful, aren't usually violent or criminals, and, for the most part, a net positive to society.
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>>223816807
thats from 2008, its dropping like a rock lmao
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>>223816741

Mormons are evil and have way too much power in the usa. I dont know how such a retarded relatively modern religion spread so much and wasnt persecuted into extinction
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>>223825661
its my favorite part of the bible. when god goes "yeah if your rapist isnt caught, its fine, but if he is caught, hes gotta pay a bit of money and the victim has to marry him". somewhere, apparently, in heaven, there is some awkward family reunion going on. "yeah he raped my great great great grnadmother....yeah...."

if your god decides something is okay and changes his mind a thousand years later, lol, it gets a bit weird.
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>>223824588
They are often just doing therapy stuff in the guise of christianity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRmi3cQ2hBw
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>>223817245
>>223817307
generations of your kind before you also said the world was ending but it never did. why do you think you're so special?
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>>223826329
>t. citizen of pompei circa 78.9 AD
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>>223820811
>Non-trinitarians aren't christians though. It's like the most basic thing required to be considered one worldwide
trinity is like 3-4th century concept. Totally made up later by bored bishops.
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>>223826353
Obsessed.
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>>223821053
Fake news one sided, misleading narrative meant to gain sympathy for his channel.
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>>223820615
Whatever works is fine.
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>>223826804
I thought the whole point of continuing whiteness was to continue reason and logic, or at least something extrinsic.
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>>223820615
iq is inversely correlated with fertility
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Faith
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>>223826758
>when the retort is so completely unrelated you dont even know how to respond
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>>223821589
Okay so if you're not on the 'reddittard' side but you're not on his side and mocking him then wtf side are you on? oh you pretend to be above all the sides because YOU'RE actually the intelligent one, right? You're a dishonest coward.
I'm an athiest because I'm not a fucking retard, and that other anon was right. Jesus is god and the son of god. It isn't the clear distinction you think it is. He isn't just the son of god and by that his offspring so he's like the prince. Nope. Jesus is the son of god and is god. They're all of the same to a certain degree, just different forms. Jesus and god aren't separate in the way that human son and father are, as if they just have the same blood or something
Christianity doesn't actually make any fucking sense because all that shit isn't actually real. God isn't real, ghosts aren't real, magic isn't real.
I was homeschooled religiously, and I had read the Bible from front to back twice before I was even a teenager, because my parents made me. I know this shit and my parents were very informed and this is the sort of stuff they taught. this is the sort of stuff most Christians who are actually informed teach
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>>223827213
>I'm an atheist
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>>223818552
>Matthew 24:23–24
Matthew 7:16-17
Ye shall know them by their fruits.
>Galatians 1:8; 2 Corinthians 11:14-15
Rev. 14:6
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel.
>Proverbs 30:5-6; Revelation 22:18
John 21:25
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Though the last one is hardly worth conaideration: Ethiopics, Catholics, Orthodox and Protestant all have differing canons. Is one right and all others accursed? Besides, if we treat Proverbs 30:5-6 as you intend, Revelation is invalidated anyway, as the former is obviously composed first.
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>>223825525
Matt and Trey have a soft spot for Mormons. The episode basically ends with the Mormon kid saying he doesn't care if his beliefs turn out to be stupid or wrong, it's given him a nice family and a nice society so Stan & Kyle can go fuck themselves if they don't like it lol
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What if in the end it turns out that all religions are technically real but only because God purposely told different people different shit to fuck with them?
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>>223816741
jews don't like there being successful rival organisations. same reason why they threw a shitfit over scientology
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>>223828601
Would check out. Gods kinda a fuckin dick if you read the actual books
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>Islam is the broom of Israel
>true true true true true
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>>223828559
That's basically their whole religion take in general. "Yeah it's obviously retarded but if it makes you a decent person and you aren't bothering me then who cares." Same thing with the Book of Mormon musical, the actual doctrine gets clowned on nonstop but the ending is still weirdly sincere about people needing stories to function.
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Has South Park ever had an eruv or probabilistic light switch? The Wile E. Coyote shit kikes do to trick Moloch cracks me up.
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>>223826851
Can do both.
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>>223816807
And yet all those kids grow up to be the biggest zoglovers of all, joining alphabet agencies en masse and organizing pro immigration charities through the church to bring in more invaders because they genuinely believe they'll all just become God fearing Christians with enough cheek turning.



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