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>You're running a movie in your head, you're having a fantasy relationship with somebody who is not real, strictly to stimulate a neurological response. So look, as the internet grows in the next ten, fifteen years, and virtual reality pornography becomes a reality, we're gonna have to develop some real machinery inside our guts to turn off pure unalloyed pleasure, or, I dunno about you, I'm gonna have to leave the planet. Because the technology is just gonna get better and better, and it's gonna get easier, and easier, and more and more convenient, and more pleasurable to sit alone with images on a screen given to us by people who do not love us but want our money, and that's fine in low doses, but if it's the basic main staple of your diet you're gonna die. In a very meaningful way, you're going to die.
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>>223817716
Well, this jew would know
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What awful prose masking a facile point.
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>>223817716
>shoots himself
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>>223817716
>The American Academy of Emergency Medicine confirms it: Each year, between one and two dozen adult US males are admitted to ERs after having castrated themselves. With kitchen tools, usually, sometimes wire cutters. In answer to the obvious question, surviving patients most often report that their sexual urges had become a source of intolerable conflict and anxiety. The desire for perfect release and the real-world impossibility of perfect, whenever-you-want-it release had together produced a tension they could no longer stand.
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>>223817848
>prose
It was an interview
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>>223818664
THIS
CHANGES
EVERYTHING
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>>223818055
Mentally ill retards taking themselves out of the gene pool, sounds like a win for everyone
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David Foster Wallace once wrote a piece about David Lynch. In the piece, he coined a new term: "Lynchian". Wallace described a Lynchian tone as "the unbelievably grotesque existing in a kind of union with the unbelievably banal."

He described a husband beating his 1950s housewife to death because she bought the wrong brand of peanut butter. "I told you to buy the JIF," he'd say as he's clobbering her to death. This, he said, would qualify as almost perfectly Lynchian.

I think "I Am Jazz" enters into Lynchian territory. The .webm above shows a simple domestic scene. The women look like average suburban moms. They're relaxing on the couch. One imagines they might be discussing casserole recipes when we cut to them. But it slowly dawns on us that in the living room, with placid expressions on their faces, they're talking about the woman's transvestite son's genitals.

Despite the obvious subtext and the producers' hope to normalize this horror, the average person is totally disgusted. Nevertheless, the viewer is fascinated. We're drawn further into this. The sheer naked horror of what they're saying, the blasé quality with which they're saying it, it creates this brutal paradox that almost rapes the viewer's basic sense of what is decent.
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>>223818849
>He described a husband beating his 1950s housewife to death because she bought the wrong brand of peanut butter. "I told you to buy the JIF," he'd say as he's clobbering her to death. This, he said, would qualify as almost perfectly Lynchian.

No, actually, he wrote that, if the cops were then called to the scene, learned about that scenario and would then agree that, yes, the brand of peanut butter does make it understandable that he beat her to death, that would be lynchian.

I've seen that copypasta before and never understood what, about that scenario, should be so lynchian. Reading the actual context, it actually makes sense.
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>>223819216
Nah you probably thought I said luncheon and got hungry, fat fuck
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>>223817973
Hung himself actually but yeah
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>>223819774
I always did find the word "Luncheon" funny. Sounds like something Eevee would evolve into.
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>>223819981
kek okay you got me laughing now. Well played, chubby.
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>>223817716
True and based
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>miss ONE single prozac
>kills self
weak ass bitch
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>>223819216
>No, actually, he wrote that, if the cops were then called to the scene, learned about that scenario and would then agree that, yes, the brand of peanut butter does make it understandable that he beat her to death, that would be lynchian.
How are the cops wrong though, why didn't she buy the Jif?
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>>223817716
literally everything he ever said is invalid because he killed himself. all his works are forfeit
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>>223820868
>we're gonna have to develop some real machinery inside our guts to turn off pure unalloyed pleasure, or, I dunno about you, I'm gonna have to leave the planet.

Sounds like he followed through
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>>223820897
But he had a woman that he lived with. His main stable of human connection was from someone who cared about him.
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there is no such thing as an American "intellectual"
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>>223820955
His doctor at the time told him to stop taking his anti-depressants because he felt they were interacting poorly with something he ate that caused him to go to the hospital with some sort of stomach pain. Once he was off the meds he spiraled until he killed himself.
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>>223821041
the reality denying drugs did this?
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>>223820897
>>we're gonna have to develop some real machinery inside our guts to turn off pure unalloyed pleasure, or, I dunno about you, I'm gonna have to leave the planet.
We're going through a great evolutionary filter of those who can cope with technology and those who can't. He didn't make it. I did. Such is life.
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>>223821052
The lack of reality denying drugs did this
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>>223820779
it wasnt the one he missed its all the ones he took insead of steeling his will
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>>223821091
Oh no a woman loves me. Please make it stop.
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>>223821306
Me unironically
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I don't actually care about anything this guy has to say because he couldn't even maintain the will to live. The idea that we need machines to resist instant dopamine hits from the internet instead of just developing some form of discipline is very jewish and I'm not surprised he roped
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>>223821402
it's a big problem with those who commit suicide or types prone to it - they become convinced of certain axioms or principles and never question if they really could be changed. his belief that he couldn't resist is something that became self fulfilling
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>>223821402
His use of the word machinery is a metaphor. He isn't arguing for literal machines to be developed to fight against instant dopamine. He is saying we need to develop inner discipline.
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>>223821402
>instead of just developing some form of discipline
Someday we will be better men
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>>223821462
how the fuck is ego-syntonic self-erasure real nigga just walk away from the screen nigga
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>>223817716
and pleasure is bad because....?
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>>223817716
I'm still not convinced that stimulation from technology is so worthless compared to what we can get from humans
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>>223821558
BRO IT'S JUST LIKE NOT REAL OR SOMETHING, EVEN THOUGH YEAH IT'S ALL JUST THE SAME NEURONS FIRING AND STUFF BUT IT'S LIKE BAD OR SOMETHING. THE MEANING OF LIFE IS TO FEEL REALLY SHITTY AND SUFFER BECAUSE IT UM... MAKES IT MEANINGFUL OR SOMETHING?! I DUNNO IT MAKES SENSE TRUST ME JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>223821306
By all accounts their relationship was falling apart at the time
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>>223822939
YOU NEED TO FIND HAPPINESS IN THE REAL HUMAN WORLD INSTEAD OF ARTIFICIAL ESCAPISM, YOU DO THIS BY LEARNING HOW TO NAVIGATE SCHOOLS AND HR DEPARTMENTS AND DATING APPS AND CONFORMING TO EVER-CHANGING AND STRICT SOCIAL STANDARDS THAT WOULD MAKE NO SENSE EVEN 2 GENERATIONS AGO. REMEMBER THESE THINGS ARE ALL REAL AND THE COMPUTERS ARE FAKE
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>>223820818
Because jif sucks, peanut butter is just supposed to be peanuts ground into paste not hydrogenated seed oil just because im too lazy to mix the peanut solids and oils together again
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>>223817716
Hey, why did Sam Hyde say that
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>>223818699
well yeah lol retard
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>>223823062
idk she sounds kind of psycho herself. i'm sure they were a ton of fun together.
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>>223821402
the "machinery" in his guts was just the MAO inhibitors. probably a huge reason he has problems sweating, besides being a fat bitch.
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>>223822939
>>223822999
you (infinite) jest but he was being retarded, as if people in the 'real' world aren't fake
>people who do not love us but want our money
lol, lmao even
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honestly vr porn rules and is better than going to a strip club. i pay 20/month for vrbangers to watch 8k rv porn it's incredible i can almost smell them.
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>>223817716
did he consider the lobsters' feelings when he took himself away from them?
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>>223823086
>Because jif sucks, peanut butter is just supposed to be peanuts ground into paste not hydrogenated seed oil just because im too lazy to mix the peanut solids and oils together again
Yeah but why didn't she just buy the Jif though?
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>>223825756
She didn't know he liked some pulp, not with pulp.
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>>223821558
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>"My primary addiction in my entire life has been to television"

real quote btw
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>>223817716
He didn't predict that porn would get substantially worse. But I don't think anyone in that era thought that would happen, or that things could get so bad that you would avoid porn just because there were no attractive women in it.
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>>223827715
His essay on television is pretty good though
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>>223822999
>YOU NEED TO FIND HAPPINESS IN THE REAL HUMAN WORLD INSTEAD OF ARTIFICIAL ESCAPISM, YOU DO THIS BY LEARNING HOW TO NAVIGATE SCHOOLS AND HR DEPARTMENTS AND DATING APPS

I'm pretty sure he was trying to say that that's exactly what you don't want to do. I'm pretty sure DFW would not have been a great fan of dating apps.
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Didn't this dude beat up his wife / lover?
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>>223829251
He beat. He graped. He groomed and gooned. I honestly fail to see what any of that has to do with his ideas and his work THOUGH.
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>>223829329
I just think less of him because of it
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>>223829428
Less what? You have no relationship with him. If you met him and the beatings and grapes were explained away, you'd accept that it was hearsay that never really affected your life.



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