you all got FILTERED
What thing?
It's incredibly obvious that the ending is both of them are infected, and it's basically just The Thing talking to itself.>Objective all this time was to freeze>Both characters agree to just freeze, despite both having flamethrowers to kill the otherBoth of them are The Thing. This is not even up for debate anymore.
>>223819991>>223820002>bumping twitter threadsYou're cancer. Simple as.
>>223819991THE thing
>>223819991Childs is the Thing
the Thing was in my pants the whole time
>>223820212he has an earring present at the end, opinion wrong
>>223819974The Thing is you, the audience.
Was it ever explained somewhere what the thing avtually is?I know the point of the movie is that its vague and nobody really knoes for certain but the movie is based on some book and i want to know if they ever go over it in the book?I thought of the thing as something similar to the Ant funghus that makes you climb some plant and grow a funghus so that youre eaten by a bird or somethingThe thinh infects you and alters your mind in such a way that youre more likely to spread Thats why the thing crashes into the arctic it wanted to go to earth while the astronauts wanted to go somewhere else and in the end it accidentaly
>>223819974>>223820002None of them were the things. There never was a thing. There was a highly contagious brain virus that made you see things and go crazy with paranoia. The Norwegians spread it to the American base then they all killed each other. When the rescue team arrived, they found only normal dead humans and a burned down base.
>>223819974>No one has guessed itHe's just lying. If NO ONE had guessed it then you have failed as a filmmaker.
>>223820436It's bait to get funding to make The Thing 2: Electric Boogaloo.
The real thing is the toxic masculinity created by this patriarchal society
>>223820629ywnbarw
>>223820436>He's just lying.Correct.
What is The Things actual form?
>>223819974What the fuck possibilities are there?>Childs is the thing>MacReady is the thing>Neither are the thing>Both are the thingHundreds of people have guessed one of these so John Carpenter is full of shit here.
>>223820771The Thing wasn't The Thing
>>223820751
>>223820735>They live is about YuppiesOh yeah? Then why are there baby aliens, women aliens, etc when he puts on the glasses? From my understanding yuppie culture was designated to inly describe rich young men
>>223820771>Mac Thing is actually the Blair Thing he’s just in a near perfect disguise now but it’s still Blair…
>>223819974The thing was actually the generational trauma
>>223819974vagueposting final boss:
>>223819974>Some guy properly explained the ending of my movie the day it came out but if I keep saying nuh-uh it's something else people will discuss my movie forever and I'll make infinity dollarsSmart marketing really.
>>223819991dish thing of oursh..
>>223820344The comic terrified me as a kid.
>>223819974John Carpenter's The ThingTM is you the viewer
>>223820045I am going to bump it specifically to piss you off.
>>223819974He was talking about the video game when he said this.
In the video game (which John Carpenter provided a voice for) MacReady is alive and rescues the protagonist and Childs was The Thing.
>>223820212If he was a thing, he would've attacked McReady. If McReady was a thing, he would've attacked Child's. Both were humans accepting death
>>223821257Solved, that was easy
>>223820351>forgets the dogs>an entire scene without humansOops.
>>223820344https://youtu.be/IKDXNuqNDAw?is=_vE9cx6SZRnGfLHpTheres a couple THINGS in this video I disagree with, but if you enjoy this nerdy speculation/analysis this video is great.
>>223820771It was all a dream. The thing was inside us all along
>>223820790
The thing was the friends we made along the way
>>223820002>despite both having flamethrowers to kill the otherYou think burning to death is a preferable alternative to freezing?
>>223820790What the hell is that thing?
>>223819991That's literally the correct answer, neither was a thing, but its better to sit there and die just to be sure. They could've tried to do something but Blair was right, its best to sit there quietly and die.
>>223821257Childs wasnt a thing, he was found dead in the snow by the rescue team and still human.
>>223822478THE thing
>>223820351>I think it's an allegory of IKEA'kay
>>223819974MacReady lets Childs get drunk/pass out from the pain of freezing before he lights him up with the flamethrower, the most merciful way he could do it. Then he burns himself alive just in case the thing had infected him somehow and was laying dormant.
>>223822687What pain? Death by hypothermia is just feeling heavy and sleepy until you lose consciousness for good and don't wake up.>t. got so cold during a mountain trip I was unable to understand simple sentences from others and felt asleep at least 2 times during short breaks
>>223819974gimmick flick
>>223822779That's just lack of oxygen you fat NIGGER
>>223822854What a dumbfuck. The brain starts shutting down as soon as the temperature of blood flowing through it falls down by some margin, usually right after the first stage of hypothermia. Watch a video of winter training for soldiers or something.
>>223820344>Was it ever explained somewhere what the thing avtually is?I mean about as much as relevant to the plot.It's a virus from outer space.
>>223819974>>223820002>>223820771the only thing no one has guessed is a third survivor. that's what he's talking about. a secret dog or one of the other guys escaped. we never see everyone die at the end.
>>223820314
>>223822779What about paradoxical undressing because you feel like you're on fire?
>>223820436Clearly HE is the thing.
>>223820751It's what you chose.
Well. All I know is I am not that... thing. And anyone else without repeating end digits is clear too. Also, never get the beans stuck above the frank.
>>223819974it was all a dream
>>223823295How do you do, fellow humans?
>>223823210The pain from constricting veins may not appear at all if you have any insulation over arms and legs so you lose the warmth slowly rather than at rapid speed. In the movie they also have some fire around.The most "fun" part is when you start to lose the warmth internally rather than in extremities because the air you breathe into your lungs is freezing cold and the body already can't sustain its own temperature.
>>223821124what comic is this
>Childs is a Thing>Mac is a Thing>they're both Things>they're both HumanThere's not really a lot of options
>>223819974He wrote in the script that childs is the thing and Kurt Russell is still human and even has a flame thrower under his poncho, he kind of won by traping the thing in the base but it cost him his lifeThis is documented fact
Every reasonable theory about the ending has been said so hes either >blind and deaf>got an idea so retarded and unreasonable nobody even suggested it>deliberately fucking with people who keep bothering him with itAnd pretending to be retarded is still being retarded
>>223819974He literally had a say in the sequel game that had Childs frozen to death, human, and McReady alive.
>>223823491
>>223819991It's me. I'm the thing. Good day to you, fellow hu-mans.
>>223823932AAAAAAHHH
>>223819974Reddit's favorite horror movie.
>>223819974well fuck him his movie was stolen from an old black and white movie anyway. the fucking hack
I watched The Thing for the first time pretty recently and I was surprised how obviously Alien inspired it is.
>>223820344It's just a shapeshifting alien. This is what its true form looks like. People forget this is just an adventure story from the 1930s. Those old pulp magazines were full of shit like that. I have no idea why they try to read more into it than what it is.
>>223820002>they were le infectedThe thing knows it's the thing. Whoever came up with the theory that you don't know you are the thing is a retard because that doesn't make any sense at all. Thing is the thing and it knows it's the thing. The thing isn't a zombie virus, that's retarded and undermines the premise of the entire movie on a meta level
>>223824738>1982 movie of a 1938 novel was based on Alien
>>223820735>picrelThis is just Carpenter desperately trying to not get his career and legacy absolutely scourged from the industry. To his credit, it worked, but it's still retarded and discredits everything he says about people "missing the point" about his movies going forward, whenever he tries to push that point. It's very like "shut up old man" whenever he tries to pull that stunt again
>>223824852That would be Scott making up shit about Blade Runner for years.
Deckard is not a replicant.
>>223824829Funnily enough, Alien is based on a couple of stories published in the same magazine around the same time as Who Goes There. Discord in Scarlet is about a deep space crew that picks up an alien from the previous universe that survived the Big Crunch/Big Bang and it goes around attacking the crew and implanting eggs in their bodies. The Black Destroyer is about a crew who touches down on a desolate planet and pick up an alien stowaway. It's a Coeurl. Some people also know them as Displacer Beasts. A big alien panther with tentacles. It kills some people and they eventually lure it into a lifeboat and jettison it from their ship. Alien is kind of a mix of elements from both stories.
>>223824775Basically it's a tranny
>>223819974Alien mogs
>>223820629tsmt
>>223819974there is no "right" ending, it's a fucking movie not real life
>>223823295>FRANKS AND BEANS!>FRANKS AND BEANS!
>>223824650So it's your favorite horror movie. Got it.
>>223825329bodied that freak
>>223824650What is 4chan's favorite horror movie?
>>223825307i've never seen such smooth hairless balls in my life
>>223825394You've seen many?
>>223819991This thing?
>>223825482una puta preñada de pecado
>>223820344It's alien so you can't classify it by Earth categories, but it's essentially a virus.It might have some higher motive, but it's questionable if it's truly intelligent or just mimicking intelligence. If it was truly intelligent, you would expect it to have stayed incognito as the dog or at least as it's first human victim. If it hadn't gone full retard in the dog kennel no one would have been the wiser.
>>223820344I swear to fucking God you zoomers don’t watch these movies. You just skip right to arguing about them. https://youtu.be/QFRj_Z5uTMYWHAT KINDA FUNGI PILOTS A SPACECRAFT?!
>>223819974It's obviously something convoluted as fuck>The entire movie is a dream the dog is having>It's not on earth at all and they're on another planet >Everyone's already part of The Thing and the films a hivemind projection And I bet there's a small hint in a throaway scene
>>223820002The entire twist is that there are two of them with different hiveminds
>>223819974the thing was actually a deepwater jew
>>223825650It was rebuilding its own spacecraft in a matter of hours.It was intelligent.
>>223825358camp of the saints
>>223825886>zoomer reading comprehension
>>223826032It has some degree of intelligence but it's not clear if it was sentient or just going on instinct and mimicry.
>>223819974John is just fucking with everyone and he's gonna do it till he's dead
>>223819974>akshually as the director i alone possess the one true interpretationha! imagine being this quaint!
>>223819974 highly acclaimed science fiction short story "The Things" by Peter Watts.Published in 2010 on Clarkesworld, this celebrated "extended act of fan fiction" retells the events of John Carpenter's 1982 horror classic The Thing entirely from the perspective of the shape-shifting alien biomass.The story completely flips the moral geometry of the movie:• The Alien's Mission: The creature is not a malicious monster, but a sentient, compassionate explorer. It travels the universe to share "communion"—peacefully merging with other species to cure them of the existential loneliness of being a solitary individual.• How It Sees Humans: When it encounters the researchers at Outpost 31, it is deeply horrified. It views humans as fragmented, weeping "thinking cancers" because our cells are locked inside isolated bodies rather than sharing a collective consciousness. It perceives its violent assimilation of the crew as an act of rescue and healing.• The Existential Dread: The story brilliantly tracks specific scenes from the movie (beginning with lines like "I am being Blair... I am being Childs"), showing that the alien is just as terrified of our violent refusal to become "whole" as the humans are of losing their identity.
>>223819974The nigger did it.
>>223826498>I'm the good guy by dissolving individuality and the concept of self with extreme violence. Help me help you. Reddit tier writing.
>>223821695I simply would have done a makeshift blood test on the nozzle of the flamethrower
>>223826498I have a copy of his book Starfish sitting on my shelf but after reading that this is the kind of shit Peter Watts writes I think I'll drop it from the list of books I'll ever actually read.
>>223826557its a trope that been around. enders game got a thing like that, the ants-like aliens throw some scouts at human to figure out what is what since they have a single conscience that is kind of centralized or something, not knowing each humans have their own conscience. probably other examples too. its fine. an ok play on anthropocentrism.
>>223826702 your loss. blindsight was allright, one of the good sci fi thing that came out in years. if you know better just share.
fuck it post your most delulu theories>the thing never existed everyt thing was a result of mass hysteria
>>223820751Like a virus, obviously
>>223826032It knows how to build a spaceship because his previous hosts knew how to build one. I see it as an parasitic infection. All it wants is to survive
>>223826718Ender’s Game is written well.
>>223826509There was a couple of those things
>>223826718forever war kinda
DOG'S FAULT
>>223825886>WHAT KINDA FUNGI PILOTS A SPACECRAFT?!The fungi could have infected the crew piloting said spacecraft dude.
>>223826024>was actually a deepwater jewInfiltrates a community.Pretends to be one of them.Secretly out to destroy them.It checks out, anon.
>>223825886Why did it land in the artic instead of somewhere else, retardo? It chrashed because it attacked the crew
>>223819974Just another brain dead gore porn hollywood movie. Next.
>>223819974>>223819991>>223823295The real Thing is Late Stage Capitalism
>>223819974The real thing is the Childs we made along the way
>>223820002Neither of them are the Thing.
>>223820344>>223820722>>223823344>>223826877>>223826455>mfw Das Ding is all over the thread
The thing was the friends we made along the way.
>>223826702>>223826557You're both fucking whipped dogs for thinking that The Things is pro-alien or makes the alien look morally good at all. It doesn't. To your credit, there has been a lot of other media that tries to invert mortality with "good demons" or whatever but The Things isn't an example of that. If you actually read the story instead of that retarded fucking AI summary that you replied to, The Thing's perspective in the story is clearly villainous. Even though it thinks of itself as being compassionate, the story explicitly frames The Thing as a literal rapist who understands that the humans don't want to be integrated and does it to them anyway. It's clearly intended to be horrifying and upsetting, not make the alien look good.
>>223819974I love this movie, I've watched it dozens of times and everytime I have a different thought of how the thing spread through the camp and who could have been the thing at the end or if they actually killed everyone that was turned.
>>223820002>It's incredibly obvious that the ending is both of them are infected, and it's basically just The Thing talking to itself.And the thing survived the explosion as well.
>disappears without explanation
>>223820002>Both characters agree to just freeze, despite both having flamethrowers to kill the otherWhy would they burn themselves if the Thing had survived the explosion?
>>223819974The real ending is that the entire movie is a trans analogy.
>>223827140That had always been my guess. What happened to the arctic researchers is basicslly what happened to the aliens on that ship. Maybe the last surviving non-infected intentionally crashed the ship so the ship wouldn't return to the aliens' homeworld.
>>223826338Found the newfag zoomer
>>223824650Isn't Get Out their favorite?
>>223820002Why does Mac chuckle when Childs drinks the whiskey? Weird to keep up appearances if he's one of you? Even if it is still trying to act human why did he find that amusing?>>223820285Not saying he is but why wouldn't it wear an earring? If it was aware of that detail why couldn't just put the earring back in once it takes over? If it's a perfect imitation after all. They never actually confirmed the whole destroying clothes thing either, maybe that was just to throw people off it's trail. Where were Blaire's clothes?
>>223827451Kek
>>223825454Yes
>>223820285>he has an earring present at the end, opinion wrongthe thing can put earrings back on. it can also take over people without destroying their clothing. the clothing ripping was part of it's plan.
>>223828134>intentionally crashed the shipWith no survivors...
>>223826750Blindsight is great but the sequel Echopraxia is a fucking slog unfortunately.The Starfish trilogy has lots of interesting ideas but that rapist character should've been cut, it does nothing for the story and is just added depression on top of the already very bleak story.
>>223822854I've been hospitalized for extreme hypothermia and that anon is right, you just slowly lose consciousness as your brain functions slow down.
>>223828991Yeah but it's funnier to pretend he's just fat and out of breath
>>223827962Nauls ran away and actually miraculously survived until the rescue team arrived. He warned them and they burned all thing materials before they could be thawed. Nauls saved the world.
>>223827873>you're retarded for taking what anon did the plot of this remaining of the thing from the things perspective at face valueWell golly gee you faggot.
>>223828495The whisky was actually just an unused Molotov cocktail, when Childs drinks it Macready knows it’s a Thing.
>>223826702I read starfish for the setting but after how that book ended it's no surprise that watts would write the alien that way. For some reason every sci fi writer who writes a the many from system shock type character also writes a stupid ending where some bitch gets godlike powers. It figures that a guy weird enough to sympathize with women would also sympathize with an evil alien monster.
>>223826032>rebuilding its own spacecraft in a matter of hours.Without blackjack and hookers?>It was intelligent.I think not.
>>223820002Nigger he said nobody figured it out and you named 1 of the 4 most obvious possibilities.
>>223819974He's just shitposting.
HE IS DOING IT ON PURPOSEDONT FALL FOR HIS VAGUEPOSTINWE DONT NEED ANOTHER 40 YEARS OF DISCORSE FOR THE ENDINGHE IS LYINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>223820794>From my understandingbecause you're an idiot with no context
>>223819974the ending is pretty self explanatory, the people that will come there will find 2 bodies and they're both the thing due to liquid being a way to transfer the infectiononly reason to share a drink at that point is if both of you know you're the thing
Nauls is the thing
>>223823295ok so heres the thing
>>223819974It's obvious. The guy that shares alcohol is the thing. Or they are both things.
>>223821695Seriously, getting drunk and freezing to death is 100% going to be a smoother ride than burning alive. If I had that choice Im taking the long road. I'll get numb and pass out and just die.
>>223823498Right? I don't get how Carpenter can say no one got it right when there's really only 4 viable endings. If you listen to the commentary with him and Russel, Russel goes "but Mac isn't a thing" and Carpenter goes "well he could be" I think Carpenter is just trolling. He likes that the ending can be any of these 4 and wants people to endlessly debate it. The movie didn't make money in its time and took about 10 years to grow a following and now he gets to have fun with it till he dies.
>>223819974Its the pet bird. There's a shot of its cage empty in the background a the end of the film.
>>223825307Seriously, what do you do in such a situation?
>>223823295don’t worry twin, you can trust me
>>223831024Also the blood sample. When it tests positive it gets dropped and scurries away in the confusion.
>>223819974When he threw the whiskey into the chess PC, he got zapped and fell into a coma, all that comes next are his dreams and hallucinations in that coma. No need to thank me.
John Carpenter's the thing, it's quite literally on the tittle
>>223819974Carpenter is just a grumpy old man trying to spite movie fans, because he hates movies now. I am pretty sure he said something before about it being neither of them.
Reminds me of the CW Flash tv show. Everyone on the subreddit for over a year in the first season said a character was named after H. G. Wells. Easily the most overstated factoid regurgitated again and again. Eventually, after the season ended, the showrunner stated that no one online figured out this character was named after H. G. Wells. He was being serious too. I just couldn't believe it.
>>223831212it was himcarpenter was the thing all along
>>223829793Wrong, McGreedy almost drank it before Childs shows up
At the start, Mac uses alcohol to defeat a non-human opponentAt the end, Mac uses symbolic alcohol to defeat a non-human opponent
>>223831354Go back,
>>223823225>John Carpenter's The ThingThe answer was right in front of us all along.
>>223819974Implies it has a deep meaning. He's full of shit.
>>223826039He said horror movie, not a documentary.
>>223829793there's 0 reason to think a thing would not react to kerosene in its throat. There's no reason for Mac to test childs this way. Also, if a thing can speak english it has deeper sense memories, it would know the difference in smell and taste and react appropriately.
>>223831951But it is the only scenario where it is supported by the context, i.e. has the highest probability as seen: >>223831433You can play fiddlesticks all day with theories and inference but those lines of thought rarely have merit or worth.
>>223831045Wear underwear?
>>223820314Aw shit he got it
>>223826498neon general evangelism??
>>223827962That's what Carpenter is talking about. Something killed/assimilated Nauls. He could have easily just been left somewhere instead of being absorbed into the mass at the end that Mac blows up.
>>223825919>Everyone you see is in a containment biosphere and part of an experiment Albert Wesker is running
>>223819974What if it has something to do with one of his other movies being connected? Like the reason Windows hasn't been able to reach anyone for two weeks is because some apocalypse happened and it was shown in another movie. That wouldn't really affect the ending with Mac and Childs though
>>223826965Fine, the zesty buck on rollerskates.
>>223819974Isn't the whole point that it's supposed to be ambiguous what the hell is this old fart talking about?
>>223825358Mon oncle Antoine
>>223831972This is too literal, but even then if we go with the literal mirroring, it'd be whiskey, not kerosene.The mirroring is Mac see's the computer as cheating. It is not playing by the rules as defined. So he destroys the computer. Later, Mac deals with Blair in the best way they saw fit at the time, they followed the rules of humanity, only to find yup, Blair was or became a thing. They took all the pieces out, but ah, the cheating thing got itself back on the board. So Mac stops playing by human rules and burns down the whole camp. Thematic mirroring or literal mirroring. Which one is better?
>>223820594It was made just recently called Resident Evil and had a pro life message in it
>>223819974Humanity is the real monster
>>223819974who cares what that old fag thinks
>>223819974>tee hee hee nobody will ever know my secret!
>>223820344It's a shoggoth.
They are both The Thing
>>223819974The game tells you exactly what happens after the ending of the movie. Checkmate, John.
>>223824775The short story is better than anything written in the last 60 years
>>223819974mmm, your right I havent guessed it. Why dont I just sit here a while and think about it.
>>223819974It was all a dream
what if the real answer is something no-one can possibly guess like 'the thing is actually this kid i knew in middle school'
>>223834469i used to read word up magazine
>>223824650God I hate you contrarian reddit tourist faggots. You literally came from there which is why you're an expert. Nothing is "reddit" except the dick in your mouth.
>>223823295repeating digits are in no way a sign of being the thing
>>223820002>love whiskey>it's cold outside>Childs has a bottle>Nahhh no thanksMacready was a ThingOr maybe he just thought Childs might be, and didn't want to ingest anything offered... it's impossible to say for certain
>>223819974
John Carpenter also said the retarded ass video game is canon. So Childs died, but MacReady, after helping some random government spook, flew a black ops helicopter back to America after blowing up a CIA blacksite.He's a retarded old boomer.
