What will collector fags do when there won't be any players left?
>>223872818how are they going to sell 4k TVs now ?
>>223872818they'll pay more for uber rare versions and debate over which obsolete player is actually the best
you know other companies make bluray players, right? I have a Funai.
>>223872818They still make NES compatible consoles.
whats thepoint of buying a blue ray player when a ps3 costs less and plays games?I mean even the ps4 would cost less then a seperate blue ray player and still can play games
>>223872818third party blu Ray players
>>223872818It's no secret that Sony hates physical media. Panasonic makes the best value 4k Blu-ray players anyway. They'll continue to be produced as long as people buy 4k discs, which is the best way to watch a movie at home.
>>223873266>third party blu Ray playersi thought blu rays are sony patentedthey are the only ones who can use them and everyone else has to resort to dvds
>>223872818couldn't you make your own with a computer BD drive?
>>223873222yeah but this can play uhd. ultra high def. ULTRA
>>223873035Sony sold their TV business to Choina
>>223873266pretty much thisbuy a 'sorny' or a 'panamonic' and it will even let you play pirated movies
>>223873401the ps4 cant?
>>223873435no. you'd need ps5 for uhd blurays
>>223873435not in the ultra magnetic way a bluray player can
>>223872818Sincere question. Why do collectors rely on blu-ray players when they can download remuxes and store all their shit on hard drives?
>>223872818>What will collector fags do when there won't be any players left?Sony is just doing their usual KWAB thing of getting BTFO so SYBAU uncpeople still buy VCRs
>>223873541I bet you dont grasp the difference between having sex with a girl,and paying for the pornhub sub
>>223873678>pirating remux>paying for shit
>>223872818That's the crap player that always freezes lol, no wonder they gave up on it
>>223873541>thanks YIFY V:10 A:10!
>>223873541because my 4k UHD of Big Trouble makes my tiny bedroom sound like IMAX and discs are 10 bucks on ebay
>>223873827 (me) you give up audio on rips, and it's such a large part of the experience
>>223872818>What will collector fags do when there won't be any players left?I have already bought and stored five extra just in case. Are you poor?
>>223873839REMUX are lossless u get the same audioI pirate and buy discs
>>223873435The oldest, cheapest console with a 4k UHD Blu-ray drive is an Xbox One S.Sony didn't bother to support UHD at all during that gen
>>223873958You can get one used for 60 eurios on ebay its not like their expensive
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>>223873935that's great if true for me having my favorites on disc is preferable because i don't have to wonder and the features and the like are a plus as well as packaging. I wouldn't keep some massive collection, but I am grabbing films I truly enjoy.
>$300 for a 4k bluray player>$20 for a 4k movieno wonder physical media is dying
>>223873305You can play Blu-rays on an xbox
>>223873958I use to have this console and its player requires an app to play the movies. Half the time it glitched or fucked up so I got a dedicated 4k player instead. >>223874037Yep, it’s expensive as fuck. I mostly buy Blu-rays because the 4k discs are usually shitty movies being re-released by arrow video or another boutique label. They charge fucking 40 bucks for a film like Maniac in 4k. Don’t get me wrong I like the movie but this is the type of slop that gets put out on a regular basis.
>>223874037>$400,000 computer>$5,000 per hour internet connectionstill think pirating is cool?
>>223874022i think that is good. i don't really get movie collecting. it's not like one will ever have them all lol. but "hey i really like this movie and will watch it many times so i'll buy it on disc" makes much sense.
>>223874037Anon, VHS tapes were like $50-100 in the early and mid 80's and about $20-25 through out the 90's. DVD's were $25-30 in the late 90's and early 2000s. Media is dying because it's shit and there's too much of it now.
>>223874113For me it the legacy of having the film so I can show others. The problem is most people think it’s weird to have a movie collection and get bored to tears when I show them movies I love. The vast majority of people would rather watch TikTok videos or the sportsball game.
>>223874212>For me it the legacykek
>>223873798You did not read what he said or do now know what a remux is
>>223874037If you're in at least a moderately sized city, then you should be able to find a used media store which will have 4k Blu-rays for cheaper than $20. They've been around for long enough that there is an abundance of them.
>>223874118>Went to a charity shop the other day>Picked up Gladiator on DVD because I had a quota that needed completed>Still had the original sticker on from when it was bought - £17.99It always feels a bit weird to me because I totally bypassed buying DVDs. Some guy in the street did pirated ones so I just got them off him. VHS tapes felt more expensive because by the time I could get those reliably (pirated) DVD was already taking over. And it took a lot longer to copy a VHS tape than it did to burn a DVD.
scalpers are already jacking up the price
>>223873035Gaming and streaming is already UHD.
>>223874416Heard they were suing Pokemon because they weren't told exactly how many ETB units were going to be released and now they've lost their life savings.
The /v/ thread on this is a lot better.
>>223873305>i thought blu rays are sony patented*laughs in bugspeak*
>>223873958Series S isn't that good of a UHD Blu Ray player but if you want one for cheap it's great.
>>223875032I think bu ray players start at like $200-250 for a UHD capable one.
>>223873541>remux>not original quality>comes with none of the bonus or extra featuresnah
>>223872818>>223874037it's over...
>>223875032A Series S doesn't have any disc drive
>>223872818Why would I care? I have a Panasonic DP-UB820A 4K player. Works just fine.
>>223875239Why do people ITT not know what a remux is?>comes with none of the bonus or extra featuresDoesn't come with the menu screen that plays literally every memorable spoiler scene rapidly in 3 second sequences - that alone makes them completely BTFO anything you buyMost of the UHD REMUX I download have like 5 commentary tracks and I get the unrated or extended and theatrical versions... omg I might be missing out on featurettes!
What's a good 4k player? Price doesn't matter.
>>223875385>What's a good 4k player? >Price doesn't matter.Well, probably an expensive one then.
>>223875385Panasonic are good.
>>223873305Imagine being this stupid, oh wait that's how you get retarded threads like this.
>>223875331>omg I might be missing out on featurettesexactly. a remux is not comparable to an actual disc idiot.
>>223875750right, it's bettername one good "featurette"
>>223873285As a Nintendo fanboy the only reason I would buy a Sony product is for physical media purposes. My PS3 is currently my main dvd player
>>223875597Any specific models or just any will do from them?
>>223876041>moving goalpostscant have an actual conversation can you
>>223876152UB820
>>223872818Making a bluray player yourself is not actually that hard.Especially when the sourcecode of numerous players is out there online already.
>>223876279>admits REMUX is the same thing but without featurettes>can't name a single featurette ha he's ragin
>>223874564As much as I hate to say it (especially thanks to newer codecs like AV1), you're average movie going normie won't notice compression artifacts and you can bring the bitrates down real low. To be fair, they were always overkill on BD and UHD-BD and more often than not the encoding is pretty poor and the hight bitrate was just them brute forcing an encode.
>>223876321Explain to the folks at home how to build a blu ray player with proprietary copy-protection keys and DTS/Dolby video encoders
>>223874564Streaming is not UHD >Commercial streaming services compress data by roughly 4x to 5x for video and up to 30x to 50x for audio compared to a 4K Blu-ray Enjoy watching huge chunky artifacts whenever the screen is dark or there is a waterfall or confetti or fire works. Shit turns into pixel vomit.
>>223876369again youre moving the goalposts. trying to argue a remux is same thing as owning the disc and yet your only argument is 'yeah w-well those things on the disc are STUPID!"
>>223876397Yeah they won't notice until there's fireworks or something and the entire screen turns into 240p pixel diarrhea for a few seconds
>>223874245I didn't even download it but since it's yify A10 V10
>>223876459Remux is a 1:1 lossless uncompressed copy of the blu ray disc.You've never watched a featurette.Stop crying.
>>223875750>a remux is not comparableIt isn't comparable it's identical.
>>223876503i'm not too familiar. if you burn it on bluray is it identical and it works?
>>223876453>4k blu ray 90GB>streaming 4k 10GBimagine paying for that shit
>>223876487waiting for you to post proof that I haven't. until then I'll accept your concession
>>223876534>>223876553lol
>>223876465Ain't entropy a bitch
>>223876401First off, you'll need a laserpointer and an angle grinder.Come back to me after you've acquired those highly sought after items.
>>223876465If only variable bitrate existed and parts of the movie could have higher amounts of data temporarily.
>>223873541Have you SEEN hard drive costs lately?Blu-ray costs 10-20 and last 20-40 years.Then I don't have to worry about losing all my data, just making sure my collection goes into plastic boxes when I move>but what if a firethen my PC and data is still fucked, as I'm not paying a cloud service $300 a year to store 8TB+ of my pirated or personal ripped media Anti-physical fags are dumb leftists or zoomers or both, always
>>223876453Eh, the audio's not really an argument. If you can ABX losless audio and 80kbps per channel AAC with a good encoder more than 5 times in a row, I'll suck your dick.
>>223873798Has yify ever improved in their quality now that internet speeds and download caps have improved overall?
>>223876755Didn't they go to jail or something?
>>223873541>Why do you want to own anything? Why does having possessions matter to you?
>>223876755No, it's all the same 800/1800MB rips for third-worlders
>>223876654Pretty much all the major streaming services already encode In a way that already does that. You can perform all the aggressive optimizations you want, but if you don't give your encoder enough information to work with, the quantization becomes so aggressive that the video just collapses. It doesn't help that streaming services probably have aggressively low maxrate. You can do 2 pass encoding all you want, but it'll do nothing if you tell the encoder it can't go any higher than 6mbps.
That's ok I buy all my movies on the playstation network store.
>>223874051360?
NOW I know why rippers are so hard to find now.t. got that Sony UHD player
>>223872818There's tons of aftermarket parts available for repairing anything.
>>223873541I downloading a REMUX and it's quality is not the same as a standard disc. I could see the bitrate on the REMUX but not on the disc. Disc is still king.
>>223877203Once they're swallowed up, your only recourse is to rip them and then stream the files from your PC to your TV. Sony is a shitty company, but they made some good products. My VCR that still works from the late '90s is a Sony.
It's technically possible to put almost every film and show ever made onto a storage device that would be affordable to almost anyone. Everyone could have one of those easily.
>>223877304You mean a server?
It's just weird that the company that invented the media is no longer making/selling devices that play it.
>>223877382They probably heavily invested in streaming.
>>223877382>invented disc storageno they didn't.
>>223877382maybe their bluray players aren't making money, so they are better off other companies paying them for licensing fees or whatever
>>223872818like minidisc and laserdisc and records they will keep collecting
>>223873067Panasonic is the only name brand manufacturer now, the rest are generic chinese (which have the dvd and regular bluray function region free btw)
>>223877382you mean like betamaxor minidiscor UMD
>>223877471From where do you think most of the torrents worth a crap will come?Also don't forgot good-hearted youtubers;etc that upload 35mm scans.
>>223877499and this guy
>>223877499checkedsony fucking sucks lmao
The entire reason why Sony is discontinuing Bluray support is because the manufacturers and factories handling the bluray drive has pivoted to making AI adjacent stuff, something about memory chips. I forgot the exact detail but the factories have all changed their assembly lines. Sony couldn't stop this.
>>223877647Bullshit.
>>223877661The factories for the laser is at least known to have switched to something AI related. It was significant enough to warrant Sony killing off physical media support in the next Playstation.
>>223877849AI is still garbage. No way you're correct on this.
>>223877849They repurposed one of their bluray factories for micro optics
>>223877407Sony pictures is the only major studio without a streaming platform...
>>223877937Do you know what invested means?
>>223872818A consortium should take over the division
>>223877937is crazy that it's the only hollywood studio without it's own stream platform. maybe it's wise decision
>>223877346Sure, but it would be technically feasible to put one of these in every home computer. That way everyone would have all of these pieces of our history, and you could even have a system to show which had been altered (since people would want to edit or delete 'problematic' works). There are plenty of other ways to get artists paid for their work, this would only make it somewhat harder for a corporation to make money from it (and even then only in so far as they want to continue their shitty business practices).
>>223877647it's one bluray disc factory in Austria:https://salzburg.orf.at/stories/3360879/they used to make 600'000 discs daily but they're shrinking to 10% of that and reconfiguring the rest of the space to make optical lenses.interviewee gives the example of some sort of tiny projector lens for cars but some speculate that they are making the optics for etching computer chips.
>>223878518ORF on my /tv/???
>>223878489I hear you, especially on the need to preserve in the face of censorship (deletion), but even if we're talking about just the golden classics, that's a lot of dang space.
>>223874918mein negger
>>223878518is one factory shifting enough to cause sony to shut down all bluray production???or is this the only factory making discs?
>>223878846that i'm not sure. it seems to be their primary bluray factory, but i don't know how many others they have if any.
Are there no other companies making them?
>>223878875Panasonic supposedly, but their stuff isn't quite as good, players anyway. As for discs, I can't get a straight answer anywhere.
>>223877875Anything AI related is raking in massive amounts of money right now. That's all that matters to them.
>>223878489what. the storage required for that would be super costly. if you're talking about a storage that everyone can access that's not everyone having all these files on their own computerfor your model to work, people in the industry need to stop being autistic and be their catalogs and share them with other streaming services and get a royalty like in the music industry. then we can have a few platforms where you can access pretty much every film tv series/film, much like you can have access to pretty much every song on YT, Spotify on Apple
>>223873385You could for ripping discs. Actually getting disc playback to function properly on a computer using a drive for 4K discs is a huge pain in the ass though
>>223878875>>223878898no supposedly, Panasonic are still making - for nowthen there are generic Chinese brands like this: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/laser-4k-ultra-hd-multi-region-blu-ray-player - they actually have a slight advantage in their dvd and regular bluray is region free
>>223878724>>223878979If it were just a matter of 'make it available for almost no cost' then we'd already have it, the torrent system is easily robust enough to provide this with relatively few 'seeds' staying online permanently. In fact this was a solved problem even fifteen years ago, arguably twenty. Since then the name of the game for distributors was in putting roadblocks (whether legal or technical) in the way of people accessing content this easily. I mean we're right at the point now that we could do that on local storage. It's already been possible to have more than you could ever watch in a lifetime on local storage for a while, now it's possible to have everything you might ever want to watch as well. I'd be confident this is why they're pulling up the ladder on affordable home 'compute' in favor of data centres, to make this as economically difficult as it is legally difficult. It would be fine to have low resolution video for much of this desu.
>>223878898>>223879010This is pretty messed up only one major company makes them now
>>223878908AI is claimed to make 60 billion a year - but 10 of that is from a loan microsoft gave itself lolso 50 billionwhich is fraction of what is being pumped into it which is only going to go upit is not scalabe, it is not producing a profit, it requires more investments to come from somewhere and it will be our retirement funds, its fossil fuel consumption and water consumption is horrendous, the noise is impossible to live near, it is a pyramid scheme that will come down just like the subprime mortgages and dotcom bubble and S&L scandal before it
>>223879049Get a ripper while you can and even THEY are disappearing. LG makes the best ones.And yeah, in case anyone asks, they also simply play the discs.
look at how quickly powerdvd brickslook what happened to 4K players on computerslook what happened to films being taken off sony serversthey will keep doing the same thing with software/cloud/licensed usagego physical or go broke
>>223878846It is one of the only major ones. In addition to the Austrian one, there is a large one in Germany and one in Mexico and pretty much 95% of all optical discs are pressed in one of these locations. There are some smaller ones around the world, but most disc production goes through one of those locations, so one of them drastically reducing output and pivoting to making lenses is a pretty big deal.
>>223879044>I mean we're right at the point now that we could do that on local storageno idea what you're talking about, bro. if you have every film every made as a 4k, that would require tonnes of storage, which would cost a lot and even take up a lot of space
>>223878990>Actually getting disc playback to function properly on a computer using a drive for 4K discs is a huge pain in the ass thoughIs it? I got a Blu-ray player that plays them back fine on my PC, but I need to flash it for 4K playback. You're saying that's difficult? Not what I wanted to hear.t. restorer anon
>>223879057Nobody cares. It's raking in money. US isn't going to back down. This AI bubble isn't gonna pop until it either gains sentience or China magically gets swallowed up by the ground. That's what a lot of people don't get, this is the new Manhattan Project.
>>223879044Most torrents have errors. In fact, I've never seen one without them.I got this nagging feeling that true kino watching is going to become an exclusive thing that locks out most people, which isn't always a bad thing.
>>223879274Sadly this. Google just illegally razed 250,000 trees in Finland and they're saying: "Oopsie! but we needed the space for AI! :^)"
>>223872818Bought a 4k player "to last for the rest of my life" that I put back in its box and everything when not in use (99.99% of the time) and 2 years later I ran into my first ever instance of battery leakage which had wrecked the remote. Just bought another for 10 bucks sure, but still a dick move for something that was supposed to last 5ever. Bet I could dig up my original gameboy which likely has batteries still in it and they'd be fine
>>223879274>China magically gets swallowed up by the ground.*China and the US. The US suddenly having a monopoly on AI would only make it even worse.
>>2238792644K bluray playing on computer required a ton of hardware and firmware drmthe firmware drm required constant online verification from Intelwhich Intel shut down last year
>>223879368Battery leakage in storage is not at all uncommon and the damage cause is also very easy to fix usually.
>>223879274yes pyramid schemes make money until they collapse
>>223879385I think anon's concerns about the market is legit but US not having to worry about an actual threat to its dominance, it will let the market will correct itself fast. inb4 what about Russia? lol what about Russia?
>>223879264>>223879449It's because UHD Blu-ray DRM required an ISA extension that Intel dropped since 10th gen.
>>223879449Are you telling me that it's now impossible to watch 4K flicks on my PC? Even if that's so, I sure as shit can still rip 'em to it.
>>223879476see:>>223879495
>>223879195How much is a ripper?
>>223879532'bout 90 bucks before tax and tips. So, $112.00 minimum, more if you have to ship it.
>>223879495you not only need a 4K rom but a compatible videocard, motherboard, and cpu not only for Intels DRM to work(all of which was incredibly expensive when I looked into it for my last pc build back in 2017)the hardware is no longer manufactured and the DRM no longer functionsanyone still using an older PC with it all can still watch regular HD 2K bluray
>>223879561So, it's now impossible for me to rip a 4K image or are you just speaking to playback?
Its crazy how cheap blu ray players were 10 years ago
>>223879582I have no idea how the 4k rips available online are made and if you can make them great, I'm just talking about the proper above the line method of putting a disc in a player and watching not any l33t hax0r kungfu you might have
I need a *definitive* answer because I am the The Return of the Living Dead restorer anon and it's already a lot of work. If I can't use a 4K image, I got a 2K one, but that's a letdown. >>223879619I see.
I suppose if the 4K route gives me static, I can just do it 2K and then someone who is better equipped could upscale it....if they're not retarded. Protip: most 4K upscales are done by 'tards.
>>223879247It would be completely fine to have it as a 700mb movie or 140mb show. >>223879311It's an awful thing. The whole business model now is about developing new and better ways at locking people out, it's perverse. It would be awful even if they weren't using it to delete and edit parts of it, but they're doing that too.
>>223879712>The whole business model now is about developing new and better ways at locking people out, it's perverse.Yes, but think of all the dolts who copy what they see and damage society. Some of that will end.
>win format war>abandon it before any of the competitors that were forced to license it from youBased as fuck actually.I have a 65" OLED and I stream everything and have never given a fuck about buying a blu ray disc except for Heat and Metallica S&M 2 and I watched both those once and never again.
>>223879753Honestly I don't think that's a real problem. You're saying that they should start censoring history to prevent people from watching tv & television that people might copy and in so doing damage society? Even if it was an issue, having all content available to everyone (or even just everything from before some generous cut-off period say 20 years before present) would produce such immense and incalculable benefits that it would easily counter-balance any potential negative effects.
>>223879311The exclusion is the point. Big Tech wants everyone locked into their shortform algorithms so they get infinite watch time. It’s already happening with Netflix reporting people can’t even watch a 30 minute program anymore.
>>223879837>You're saying that they should start censoring history to prevent people from watching tv & television that people might copy and in so doing damage society?Yes, most people at this point should see or have access to jack shit and I mean that 100%. We are the new elite, get used to it.
>>223879856>It’s already happening with Netflix reporting people can’t even watch a 30 minute program anymore.That's sad. Me and my mom watched the The Return of the Living Dead workprint and that's 17 minutes longer than the final cut.
>>223877624>sony single-handedly invented multiple things>something no individual or company has done since...well, since edison>they suck
>>223879904Imagine if Ford suddenly stopped making cars and then so did most everyone else and we were told to just walk or take the bus everywhere. That's what's happening now.
>>223879932I saw an article in the New York Times about how we are entering an era of disruption, much like the era you just mentioned. It bemoaned all the job losses that this inevitable technological transition will cause. It had a picture of automobiles, next to horses. This brought to mind this thought: "won't somebody please think of all those poor, unemployed horses!"
>>223879980It's time to invest in streaming. Hey, it's going to happen regardless.
>>223873958It's what I use.
>>223879862Well either way, so long as it's free, or 100% of the money paid by the customer is going to the artist. And absolutely no money whatsoever is going from the customer to the distributers or producers.
>>223880032I could have told you that when Netflix was still flinging DVDs through the mail. God you people are retarded. In terms of reaction-time retardation I mean, of course.
>>223880071Some people have lives that cannot be tethered to jewish interests 24-7. Shocking, I know, oh vaunted genius.
>>223872818panasonic players are better than sony players, they still make them though they increased their prices but they still make them
>>223880112>panasonic players are better than sony playersTurok the Dinosaur Hunter, is this true?
>>223880343>Turok the Dinosaur Hunter, is this true?yes
>>223880343Yes, Sony's standalone 4K players all seem to have issues with choking on triple layer discs. Oddly enough, the PS5 doesn't seem to have this problem.
unsurprisingly this low IQ place doesn't understand why physical media totally collapsing is a bad thing. most of all of the shit you've pirated originated from physical media. without that we'll now be at the mercy of whatever gets released on streaming platforms (if at all) and that often means butchered/heavily censored cuts of media.
>>223873035TVs? sorry but zoomies only watch media on their phones.
>>223880388Never had a problem and mine is the model in OP's op. Are there specific discs I need to think about?>>223880431Anon, I've been preaching your point for several years now. You are not alone.
>>223880455They don't deserve to watch anything good then.
>>223880431>>223880537nothing to do with the medium and all to do with the woke cancel culture
>>223880431-piracy has no effect on physical sales-those who actually want the disc will buy it-prices go up partly because of inflation and partly because of greed-big publishers limits physical printing because they want you hooked to their streaming service where they have full control on how and what you consume OR they're part of the you will own nothing and be happy agenda wanting to kick consumers rights away
>>223880726Stop posting that pedo. We come here to get away from his visual AIDS and jewishness. Thanks.
>>223880794have some meds for your TDS
>>223880431don't care, still not buying physical media. you can try to collect as much of it as you can though you cuck lmao
>>223880939Nta, but where do you think your precious torrents and mega uploads come from?
>>223881031do you think people care enough to actually go out and buy enough blurays/players to sustain the market or it's low IQ if they don't? is it low IQ to torrent at all then?
>>223876755yify is for the normies or baby pirate though. They sacrifice audio quality for lower file size
>>223881031They're the same type of idiots who say we don't need farms anymore because food comes from the grocery store.
>>223881154No, yes, and possibly yes and no.>>223881262Heh yeah.
>>223881262actually, you're the same type of idiot who says don't download a car. if didn't work when the industry tries to get people to pay, why do you think you're gonna get people to start paying now because torrents will be worse. the very fact that torrents exists show that people don't give a fuck about payingalso, what does this have to do with torrents? it's got to do with streaming versus owning physical media and streaming wins out every time. do you own a car-hold filled with CDs or something so you will always have access to the song you like? is that high IQ or just being an autistic hoarderit's also dubious that any piece of media will cease to be accessible in some way
What's really funny is when I restore something and put it out there, then anons call me an idiot who is too dumb to understand torrents.Torrents are magical creatures that create all beloved media, don't you know?
>>223881372>streaming wins out every timeYes, falsely advertised 1080p streams that are actually 720p tops and randomly dip to 144p sure are better than 4K discs.Wow I learned something here today.
>hey torrentors of 20 years you have to start purchasing for all your media now in physical form become some very few bits of media will be unavailable to you but not really
>>223881409keep buying 2000 blurays a year to add to your cuck collection and make sure you never lose access to a single one buddydo you buy CDs too? hahaha lmao
>>223877304No it isn't. A single movie in 4K is 80GB on average. IMDB says there are about 600,000 total feature length films in existence. You'd need 48 petabytes of storage just for the films alone. Even if you re-encoded everything so it looks like shit and got it down to 5GB a movie, you would still need 3 PB of storage, which would cost you $50k just for the hard drives at today's prices.
>>223881432>do you buy CDs too?Yes because I like to have the lossless files that you pirate from me, smart guy.
>>223881432Why do you think owning physical items is bad and something to be mocked?
>>223881262I don't need new movies to liveI'd prefer they stopped making them.>t. hasn't seen anything made after 2013
>>223881460>You'd need 48 petabytes of storage just for the films alone.And how much physical space would I need to house a cuck collection of these magnitude? I need to know in case 0.000001% of these films get cancelled. >>223881486I think it should be mocked because most people just stream or torrent and people that have the niche interest of collecting are telling me they're high IQ just because they have an autistic interest in something most people don't care about.>>223881466So smart. And do you physically have to change each CD when you want to listen to a bunch of different songs from different albums?
>>223881460I need a movie a day for 2,000 years right now
>>223881563me too. i'm getting an extension on my house just to house my expanded cuck collection so no-one will ever be able to stop me from watching the 4 banned 30 Rock episodes (even though I can torrent them all easily right now)
>>223879980The car and lightbulb analogies are dumb because buggy drivers and candlemakers could just get other jobs. Is everyone whose job was replaced by AI supposed to become an Uber Eats courier?
>>223881533>And do you physically have to change each CD when you want to listen to a bunch of different songs from different albums?Yes and I don't care, which is smart.Btw I have highly superior autobiographical memory and Google AI confirmed by finding the exact code of a 35mm long lost film slide, just now. Have a great day.
>>223879471>inb4 what about Russia? lol what about Russia?Trump will let Russia raze Europe so his techbro sponsors could put their datacenters in Siberia
The golem rages at the mere mention of ownership.
>>223881466CDs are actually inferior to digital files now>44.1 kHz sample rate>16 bit depth>1,411 kbps bitratevs>96kHz sample rate>24 bit depth>3300 kbps bitrate
>>223881631>Yes and I don't care, which is smart.no it's utterly retarded>>223881625no you're supposed to get another job just like every other time in history>>223881641t. has never gone to a bar, gym. restaurant, ridden the bus, bought a plane ticket in lifefuck off back to you Blockbuster thread to moan about how good it was RENTING DVDs you fucking mongoloidthe next big step will be cloud gaming, which will be amazing. will be much harder to rip the code and every bit of value will be captured
>>223880695>>223880726brainless culture warring bots posting shit that has nothing to do with what i said>>223880939perfect example of the IQ types i was talking about
>>223881716Netlfix is superior to blurays too, mostly streams at 8k now. these bozos have no idea
>>223881734>Netlfix is superior to blurays too, mostly streams at 8k nowlol imagine that, someone lying on the Internet.
>>223881734Stop that. Netflix is one fifth the data of a blu ray at best.I'm talking about music that is redigitized from the original analog masters. You can buy it or pirate it.If you use any paid streaming services or listen to music on spotify you're a felon.
>>223881720totally bro. you realize that anything is released on tv/streaming is immediately ripped and so saved?>>223881762don't care, bud. still not buying a 20,000 bluray collection and renting a storage unit to keep them up i'm not a hoardmonkey
>>223881814>don't careOh we know you do. lol Keep on not buying physical; I for sure do not care at all about that, but you have great day.
>>223881797>Stop that. Netflix is one fifth the data of a blu ray at best.true but if i could get a streaming service that allowed to stream any film/tv series in history for $10 a month, that would be vastly vastly better than buying blurays>>223881841>make fun of hoardtards, personally coin the term 'cuck collection'>hurr you totally buy physical mediawatno-one i know actually buys physical media anymore, even people that want to hoard buy lots of storage space and download onto that
tfw my bluray player broke and now I can't play any movies from my cuck collection anymore
>>223881980I own three Blu-ray players.
>>223881998kek @ the little hoard freak hoarding bluray players too
>>223882035You're welcome, anon (for the next time you download one of my uploads).
>>223882035cuckYou must have a shit taste in movies if you're happy with Netflix as it is right now
>>223872818Sony 4K players were shit tho, why are people actin like this is a loss?
>>223882382i never subbed once in my life>>223882054thanks for using all that space in your house so i don't have to
>>223882530No probs.
>>223872818Wait for another company to make one that's less expensive and probably works better than 2026 sony junk
>>223873401>>223873490>UHDIt's a total grift to force you to buy a larger TV>To enjoy 4K Ultra HD (UHD) detail, you should sit at a distance equal to 1 to 1.5 times the diagonal screen size of your TV (or about 1.5 times the screen's vertical height).>Recommended Sizes by Viewing Distance>32 to 43 inches: Best if you sit very close (1 to 4 feet away)>50 to 55 inches: Ideal for a viewing distance of about 4 to 6.5 feet.>65 inches and above: Recommended if you want a true cinematic or immersive experience from 5.5 to 8 feet (or further back) away on a living room couch.
>>223882916t. has never seen and will never see the Death Star techs welding DSII in RotJ
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>>223882916Yeah NTSC / 480p is ALL you will ever need for motion material. NHK's Hi-Vision only was really HD in parts of the scene without motion because you can't even tell (unless you freeze frame).
>>223883429When Vader's shuttle is docking in the beginning of the film, you can see stormtroopers a well as Imperial technicians actively welding parts of the second Death Star, on a big screen.You can barely make them out on a 32" CRT, but it's not great, but with a 4K copy on an UHD screen, (of about 50") it's very close to the theatrical presentation, depending on the film reel's copy's generation and condition.
>>223881814>you realize that anything is released on tv/streaming is immediately ripped and so saved?and of an inferior quality to what could be ripped from physical media. but i understand that as a streamnigger zoom zoom that's a little hard to understand.
>>223883489>sit close to tv to see more detail>that'll be $1,299.99 please
>>223872818>when there won't be any players leftwalmart will always sell them and they'll always be available 3p for dirt cheap.
>>223883560Would you believe around 800 bucks?And I can see the detail 15ft away. 5ft is optimum, true, but not absolutely necessary.
>>223883535>and of an inferior quality to what could be ripped from physical media.i understand that i just don't care enough to actually buy physical media the same as most other people and that's why it's dying
>>223881889>that would be vastly vastly better than buying bluraysI guess. Personally I opt for pirating everything and buying some things. I will never pay for streaming.
>>223882035He probably has three TVs, anon. He might even have multiple homes.
>>223877490Most of the "name brand" products you buy are also generic Chinese, the corpos just play a shell game with Vietnam and other asian satellite states so they can pretend putting together five or six pre-finished subassemblies from China like a fucking LEGO kit means they were "made" in the Phillipines or whatever.
>>223873416Eh, they're all made in the same factory, using the same parts, machine and chinaman inspector.
>>223884171Nah, not multiple homes. Heh I wish.
As long as there's demand, there will be supply. You can pay a local guy to build you a custom PC, why not blu ray players as well
chinks should just start selling libredrive players. i bought the fucking movie so i should be able to pop it in and play it in mpv without any bullshit.
>>223886019Seems like a possible solution is a perfected modern day Kinoscope, basically filming the screen and capturing audio through the air or better yet, through a mic port. In theory there is no reason that can't work.
Weird discussion here. One anon says that streaming a movie with a filesize of 700 mb would be absolutely fine and no higher res is ever needed and another anon complains about 4K streams in reality only being 720p and therefore not worth saving or pirating.I collect tv-shows myself and have a collection of about 1900 shows. Most of them are in 1080p.I have compared AVC BluRay rips vs streaming countless times and depending on the streaming service, the difference to the uncompressed BluRay is sometimes more or less visible. Both in 4K and 1080p.The interesting thing is, that very often but not in all cases, the 4K and 1080p stream from the same streaming platform are identical in detail.I researched on this and found out, that most Hollywood productions, TV-Shows and/or Movies are done with 4K and even 8K cameras, but that they in production downscale to 1080p when creating/mixing the master. So that's why a 4K and a 1080p stream look identical in very many cases. And the worst thing is that they even use this 1080p source material to produce 4K BluRays.In my eyes that's an absolute ripoff.For me this is the main reason i'm not buying any 4K BluRays and why i only download 1080p Rips from well known release groups that source their material from the various streaming services.Most of these release groups source the 4K stream if it's of better quality than the 1080p and render it down to 1080p with a high bitrate so the quality loss is as minimal as possible.When comparing the release groups 4K down to 1080p render with a 1080p stream that is not rendered down by a release group, the down rendered is of better quality.But this only applies to Amazon.From Netflix or Hulu this is meaningless to be done, because their 4K streams are of a much lower bitrate and thus quality than their Amazon counterpart and there is no visible difference between their 4K and 1080p streams.
>>223887110the worst part about downloading a streaming vs bluray rip is poor audio quality. 1080 is fine for me. 4k is overrated. also i havent paid for media in 13 years and im not starting now.
They will still make the drives but you will pay $10,000 for a solid aluminum DVD transport from a boutique brand
>>223887138>the worst part about downloading a streaming vs bluray rip is poor audio quality. 1080 is fine for me. 4k is overrated.Yes, but depending on the streaming service, you can get pretty good audio quality nowadays.Many of the newer releases are E-AC-3 @ 768 kbps with 48 Khz samplerate in 5.1 surround.Most of the releases like 5 years old or never in my case are E-AC3 or AC-3 @ 640 kbps in 32 or 48 Khz.I also happen to have some releases with Stereo AAC 128 kbps.Parts of my upper comment aged like milk in the sun as i found out right now.Amazon seems to have limited down their Bitrates quiet a lot recently, while Amazon seems to have risen theirs significantly.See pic related:I have also noticed myself, that stream rips coming from Apple are of superb quality, no matter if 4K or 1080p. But they don't have that much content.So most of what i have is from Netflix and Amazon.
>>223887110>I collect tv-shows myself and have a collection of about 1900 shows.What percentage of those are even good? What's your criteria for adding to your collection, beyond "it exists"?
>>223883489I never watched a 4k BR in my life or the OT in theaters, and I remember that detail from cable TV or DVD or VHS or something
>>223872818It's tragic but sadly it was always going to go this way. At the end of the day short-sighted consumers will almost always choose convenience over everything else and a digital-only future massively benefits corporations and their shareholders. Most normies probably can't even tell the difference between an actual physical blu-ray/UHD movie playing from a disc and the heavily compressed 1080p/""4k"" bit streams they watch through their streaming services, and if they can they don't care since they're also content with just listening through their TV speakers and $100 soundbars.Btw, something I don't think a lot of /v/tards have realized yet is that Sony and Microsoft accelerated this future when they started to offer separate digital-only consoles without disc drives which they priced $100 cheaper, and idiot gamers bit hook-line-and-sinker. We can actually thank Phil Spencer and his Netflix-for-gaming plans since it was the Xbox One that offered a discless console first, Sony didn't follow suit until the PS5 generation, just like when MS first introduced paid-online during the 360 era and Sony jumped onboard with the PS4.
>>223887517What percentage of those are even good?If you ask my wife, she likes these daily soaps that in my book are lowest tier. Both quality wise and from the actors performances on average.If you ask me, i like action, crime and science fiction and some fantasy titles. Maybe you're the one who likes TV-shows that are woke and are about gay couples and muuh stronkkk nigger wymyn. I don't know.Taste is diffrent and highly subjective.So i can't really answer this question.I also download stuff that others want me to download because they can't get it themselfes.My criteria is basically to avoid pure woke titles like TV-shows that are about gay and LGBT faggotry and other woke shit as the main plot.To avoid it 100% is pretty much impossible since the last 10 to 15 years. Since it's part of the citeria for getting productions financed, they have to have woke shit implemented to a certain level.Mai roles played by niggers or wymyn for example or IT-experts being POC and shit.But i do have a lot of older stuff also starting from the 60's.
>>223887688I'm not sure why asking you about the tv collection that you're bragging about on /tv/ triggered you so hard that you went full retard but I'm done with your schizo essays, thanks.
>>223881632Based. Europoors sold out their country, why should US save them when state mandated Russian wives will soon be on the table?
>>223887789Not bragging at all. It is what it is anon.And it seem you're the one being triggered here.Where is your problem?Do you need help?
>the sperg spergs onkek
Some people really have to shit up every thread with their negative autism.
>>223873035How will I buy sony equipment when I dont have 2000 dollars laying around? And its going to be worse when they make PS6. You will need close to 3000 dollars to see the quality of content the machines are outputting.
>>223889005This is all rediculous. I remember our TV being like 600 dollars a quarter century ago, but my PSone was only like $99.
>>223887285Honestly, audio is a solved thing and it was with aac
>>223872818ive literally never watched a bluray in my life, failed technology
>>223889712Listen to video streams from Joyn and tell me they sound great.They sound terrible compared to E-AC-3Don't know what they're doing but i have a feeling they shit up the quality on purpose. It's that bad sometimes.
>>223884523it happens the same with clothesyour abercrombie,ralph lauren or whatever shirt, its made by the same vietnamese kids.but the cheap bluray players wont have those stupid protections against non original copies.
>>223872818Sony brand lasts forever. Their tvs and VCRS from 40 years ago are still going strong with no faults Just buy one and have it forever
>>223887565Because you were right on top of the TV set, or you're lying.
