Is Hollywood better off now that we have actors who grew up in the business under their parents' tutelage?
>nowIt's like that since.. forever Most boomer actor have family in the business
>>223890064There is no such thing as nepotism.To not give your offspring advantages in life is pathological. Only white boomers think like this. For every other race “nepotism” is just called “being normal”
>>223890037whats it like being like 25 with an 80 year old dad made from HGH?
Hollywood is an entire industry built on nepotism, all these millennial and zoomer fags are only just now learning. The heads of the big 4 were literally related to each other and every one of the top echelon actors.
>>223890037So she works for him now
>>223890136Yeah most of Hollywoods early starts had parents who were big Vaudeville actors.In the end acting is a profession and like most professions you have a big leg up when one of your parents is already established simply because a random person with no ties to the profession will not know where to start. What are the odds that some kid who loves acting in their high school play in their Minnesota suburb actually develops the acting skills to make it in Hollywood? A nepo baby is going to have grown up on and around film studios. They’re going to know what is expected of them just from watching mom or dad on set and they’ll have access to the right acting schools, know how to audition, know where to audition, find the best photographer for their headshots, etc.It would be different if there were rigorous acting academies all over the country where the best natural talent could develop.
>>223890241It’s also an industry that’s located in only one place in the entire country. Simply being born a Los Angeles native gives you a huge advantage over wannabe actors who have to move there as an adult.
>>223890037Paramount shows are nothing but boomer glowie propaganda meant to glorify the status quo
>>223890102People don't want to admit this because it means the white people will eventually go fuck it we should do it too
>>223890102>thinks boomers are the ones complaining
>>223890241I always remember Josh Brolin (a nepo baby) talking about recording his Llewelyn Moss audition tape and having Robert Rodriguez direct him and Quentin Tarantino lighting it as the perfect example of this. I'm certain all those other actors had a fair shake sending tapes to the Coens and really trying to make a career happen. Whole industry is a sham
>>223890241>It would be different if there were rigorous acting academies all over the country where the best natural talent could develop.But there are.
>>223890291Being born in LA naturally makes a person an actor?
>>223890605Leo DiCaprio doesn’t have famous parents, but he is the son of artsy hippie types who moved out there before he was born. Being born in L.A. made it infinitely easier for him to get a commercial agent to get him started. A similarly attractive young kid born in Wisconsin wouldn’t have that advantage.
>>223890102Your elementary education shows
>>223890037rare good boomer
>>223890468You attribute this to nepotism but in reality he happened to be shooting Grindhouse at the time. I seriously doubt anybody in the mid 2000s cared who his father was, Brolin was pretty much a washed out has-been
>>223890102>There is no such thing as nepotism.Yeah, we all know the privileged follow different rules.
>>223890037Love his honesty and I would do the same(except if my kid was really bad at acting)
I don't have a problem with nepobabies. What's the point of having success if you can't give that to your children? From the child's point of view it makes sense to take it. Are they supposed to change their name, go homeless, and try to work their way up the top?
Being a parent inherently causes nepotism, the kid is inheriting the parents' genetics, wisdom and standard of living, which often leads to an advantage in life and a profession
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>>223890102but have you considered the cost?
>>223890102It's one thing to have this way when you yourself "made it" on your own from nothing, but I think just as many forget or downplay what they received from their parents/grandparents. Like selling off inherited heritage land for huge profit, or getting a job in some field when your parents conveniently had a job in the same field, but then insisting that your own kids need to make it on their own.
>>223890636Also, if you’re a parent with a kid who expresses interest in working on movies in any capacity, that goal is a whole lot more realistic if you live in California.
>>223890102Are you fucking retarded?Nepotism exists so long as organized society exists>JOB THAT WILL AFFECT MANY PEOPLE>A) CANDIDATE THAT IS SUITED FOR THE JOB, AND WILL HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT ON PUBLIC TRUST>B) CANDIDATE HAS YOUR GENESIt's so simple. How can you not grasp this?I think the main problem in society is too many philistine get exposed to and too many idiots get exposed to science. This is why the quality of both things has been decreasing.
>>223890102I tend to agree with you, I think it doesn't really become nepotism until they start landing random talentless friends and relatives big roles.
>>223890037Sly's daughter a qt, mom must be hot
>>223890037Yes, she's hot.However she also gets blacked in the show.The devilburg's deal.
>>223890037I suppose "nepotism" is fine in the entertainment business, at least for actors. But nepotism fucking sucks when it comes to politics and the education system.
Kids of actors and actresses going into the business isn't nepotism you gunk-head fucking retards.Just handing your kid a job so nobody else even had a chance to take it on their merits is nepotism, and so is using your influence and favors to get other people to secure employment that would otherwise be competitive.Jesus christ I hope a virus comes along that just kills fat autists
nah FUCK off you fucking KIKE. pay attention to large families (5+, hell even 3+), the offspring often have VASTLY different innate interests and abilities. this notion of 'having acting (((genetics)))' being passed on to you by your kike actor parent is complete bullshit. that being said, from a parenting standpoint is giving your kids an advantage because you can a bad thing? not necessarily. answering op's question directly? passing up qualified candidates to give an opportunity to a relative who 'might' be 'sort of' better at the profession due to sheer immersion? its absolutely a bad thing and a DIRECT, possibly even the main, reason why modern hollywood is such shit now. this is literally the reason why society broadly is devolving into neo feudalism. weak offspring cant take risks and exert their own self determination.
>>223891638>this notion of 'having acting (((genetics)))' being passed on to you by your kike actor parent is complete bullshit.are you a literal fucking retardsome of these people only have jobs in the first place because they look a certain way i.e. movie star good looksthere might be a genetic component there you dumbass illiterate tardball
>>223890037I respect his honesty at least.
>>223890130gather it's pretty awesome to not have a millennial basedcuck for a dad
>>223890102You can certainly say its normal but the audience will never be impressed or inspired by a rich person's success when it was gifted from their parents
>>223891847>basedcuckcant believe this gaytarded shit is still on
>>223890037i only dislike female nepos when they're ugly.i only dislike male nepos when they're both ugly and untalented.
>>223891755>because they look a certain way i.e. movie star good looksthere might be a genetic component there you dumbassyeah and this directly correlate to acting SKILLS... right? oh wait, it doesn't, you stupid fucking nigger.
>>223890037If it hurts the performance then it's total bullshit and nobody should stand for it.
>>223890102Spbp and a pure trvthnvke
>>223891399Even many nepo actors are shit. Like Pete Davidson and Jaden Smith
>>223890102bro thought he cooked LMAOOO
>>223891957Yeah, but at least you don't have to watch their movies. Saw some videos on Instagram about homeless people in California and the Demoncrat politicians who are the reasons for the high taxes in California are also telling people that they will use the tax money to end homelessness. Except the Demoncrats take people's tax money and pocket it themselves. Money meant to end homelessness is instead spent on expensive trips to Maui, or on expensive luxury apartments and other shit.The U.S. is fucked if Governor Newsom from California becomes president.
>>223890836>What's the point of having success if you can't give that to your children?Give them 10 million dollars on their 18th bday and let someone else have that job
What do people expect from the children of the rich and famous who grew up in coastal elite cities? They’re not going to go get a normal job lol
>>223891119Really it's any relatively big city there will be parts. NYC you will be fine, almost everyone in sopranos was from nj, Miami you will probably find shit too
>>223890102Nepotism is real and isn't a problem in and of itself.The problem with it is when your offspring isn't cut out for the job that you're foisting on them, either because of poor discipline or poor ethics, because being unqualified becomes a problem for everyone else.
>>223892550True, but all the agents and casting directors and such are mostly still in LA or NYC.
>>223891638>geneticsThe post said tutelage.
>>223890102I wonder why do white boomers hate their own children.>jewish propagandaWhere? Honestly, I don't see media that would tell it directly and boomers are to dumb and lead poisoned for subtle propaganda.
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>>223892507They don't have to work at all
>>223890037Based Sly.Btw nepotism is cool as fuck, fuck meritocracy bullshit, it never works, nepotism is what keeps our civilization afloat
>>223890037It is only nepotism if the person isn't qualified and unable to do it.If you actually got trained from birth for a certain field and are very good at it, you are just the best candidate.Nepotism is when someone gets their family into a job with no experience or knowledge about the job they are getting into and basically they do nothing but fuck shit up.It by definition isn't nepotism if they are actually suitable for the job.
>>223890037I would have never guessed Stallone would give the best answer to the nepotism question. He literally shut the door on that debate.
>>223893797He's quite a smart guy
>>223893734>nepotism is what keeps our civilization afloatExplain
>>223890037No, it's probably worse. But I don't blame them for trying to help their kids and I'm happy sly is being honest and not lying about it like everyone else does.
>>223890037How is Sage Stallone doing?
>>223890037How can one man be so based? I wish his daughter would stroke me.I hope he doesn't find me and beat me up for making this post, haha. It'd be so cool to meet Stallone
>>223890037I learned that Stallone left his wife because he cheated on her with a slut and she became pregnant. Later he found out it wasn't even his. The ultimate cuck.
>>223891313>blackedThat's how new Italians are made.
>>223890037he's retarded
>>223893734based retard
>>223895188it's just a birthdefect caused by incompetent doctors
>>223894873People with connections can provide stuff beyond their work.Those hired through meritocratic process only have their skills. Also a chip on their shoulder due to their low-class origin.
>>223890037She works for him now?
>>223893797he doesn't understand what nepotism really is. Neither do you it seems. Retard>let me just hire my retarded drug addicted alcoholic son to run my gorillion dollar conglomerate over the best qualified person because i want whats best for my children!!!!Fucking stupid mongoloid trannies
I can't believe you retarded motherfuckers are actually defending nepotism.
>>223890102The only time I consider it nepotism is when it's clear that the kid isn't pulling their weight. I blame the actor, not the parents. Look at Jaden Smith. I don't blame Will for giving his son everything he needed to be an A-lister. I blame that retarded faggot son of his for being a retarded faggot regardless.Sure enough it didn't help. He's a nobody now.Do you think Jack Quaid has the career his dad had? Course fuckin not. Even with nepotism you still need to get asses in seats.
>>223890037Hollywood was always full of nepo babies
>>223895277Yes. Michael Douglas proved himself. Didn't matter that Kirk was his dad. Same with Jeff Bridges. His dad was famous too. Their parentage just got their feet in the door. It was still up to them to stay there and become actual stars.
>>223890037nepotism is ok when it lets win over other capable candidatesbut in hollywood it promotes subpar to the top
>>223895277>son a plumber becomes his father's plumbing apprentice>oh my science how heckin wholesome :) >daughter of an actor becomes an actress >NOOOO THAT JOB SHOULD BE GIVEN TO ME INSTEAD
>>223895277Why wouldn't I? I don't suck dick to prance around on camera.
>>223895398
>>223895398Fuck, kill, marry
>>223890037 I'd like to tutal her, with vigor.
>>223895411
>>223891126>muh minmaxing my business profit over my children's wellbeingfuck off
>>223895241Doesn't network connections also introduce the flaw of having less competent people in your business? It's probably why some skillsets are vanishing from multiple industries
>>223895343>focuses just on two examples like it's a rule>>223895379If I'm better at plumbing, sure.
It's inevitable. A parent's duty is to teach their kids. They're going to teach them with the skills they have. If that's acting and show business, then they're going to teach their kids acting and show business.
>>223895277Yesterday someone posted that jack quaid posts here
>>223895468>focuses just on two examples like it's a ruleAlright, fine. Let's not talk about the Curtis family, the Huston family, the Estevez family. It happens a lot and it's happened for decades. You fucking dipshit.
>>223895391You're missing out
>>223895514Oh also the goddamned Fondas.And again the only ones that stayed relevant were the ones with the actual skills to do so.
>>223895468Here’s the flaw in your argument: Good actor ≠ movie star. There are plenty of great actors out there who don’t have movie star looks and charisma.
>>223895277>OMG WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING __________why does reddit think this is a real argument?
>>223895514>here are some made-up families for youLuterally who? You just sound sad at this point.
>>223892574This is the correct answer
>>223895594>made-up familiesYou are too fucking retarded to speak to. (You).Also Laura Dern.
>>223891313Boomer moment....
>>223890037>nowThis has been a thing since there was a second generation of Hollywood.Ever heard of Jane Fonda? Jamie Lee Curtis?
>>223890102that's true, but there's some difference in using your connections to push your kid with garbage acting to get jobs in prestigious productions, not that tulsa king is one, than just leaving them a pile of money so they don't have to work and are free to pursue their own ambitions. Not saying that's the case, but it seems a lot of acting parents basically force their kids to the industry to have some sort of "legacy"
>>223895534Here’s Bill Murray with his older brother Brian. That little bit of genetic difference made one a leading man movie star and the other a character actor.
>>223891313It's OK. She's not white.
>>223895277Like you ever lost a Hollywood job to it.Fuck off, incel. Find something relevant to be upset about.
>>223891847>>223891878newfag
>>223890836>From the child's point of view it makes sense to take it. Are they supposed to change their name, go homeless, and try to work their way up the top?I'll give them a pat on the back, but no one wants that. Easy money is what everyone wants. And everyone is dumb who just blindly allows them a perky resume based on their heredity.But you can tell those parading "meritocracy" are just projecting it. They don't truly believe that because otherwise, some people of color would have a job over others.It's rich that you would believe their parents would allow them to be homeless; they, unless they're sociopaths, want to be "good" parents.
>>223895813See >>223895534
>>223892382Remember to take meds and stop redditspacing
>>223895277Useless person but black gets hired = I cryUseless person born into wealth gets hired = Yayyyy yas queen love from ohio, slay for the MIGA queens on /tv/
>>223890037It is what it is. No more, no less. You either watch what they make or you don´t and if we are to be absolutely honest it changes very little for contemporary Hollywood because it´s problem is not related to skill or creativity or anything like that. It´s all about the current business model. The age of stylish authors, individual writers and memorable stars died with rentals. These days the business is all about market research teams making or identifying trends on social media and then picking a big ass recognizable IP that can capitalize on it to make bank at the box office. Something the herd can consume, discuss online and then forget. That´s the depth of contemporary culture so having a good actor or a bad actor doesn´t really make that much of a difference anymore. Skill and talent won´t elevate capeshit turds and make it Hamlet. Movies are not being made aiming to transcendence like they used to, they are not made to last. They are made for instant gratification and in fact people barely discuss movies anymore. The whole discussion on the latest "big epics" revolved around how much money they made for the suits at the box office or around social issues. And don´t even get me started on how directors like Nolan and Villeneuve completely lack any notion of literary romance and have systematically exchanged the poetic mysticism and grandiosity of cinematic storytelling that recognized its narrative nature for the logic of grounded and mundane realism. So yeah, Sly getting his girl a job or Ethan Hawke getting Maya in really don´t make a difference. It´s all about money now anyways.
>>223891126My genes are better than yours tho so this doesn’t apply to me
>>223891291Better than talentless negroes and dykes getting roles for literally no reason
>>223891877Massive cope. 99% of the audience doesn’t care at all and just wants to be entertained. The people seething about nepobabies are haters and losers who have delusions of grandeur and think a few nepo hires are the obstacle to their own superstardom and not their glaring lack of talent and effort.
>>223891961Bot tier post. Take this (You) back and never reply to me again.
>>223896054Yeah, but there are people out there who got better genes and didn’t get cursed with type of brain that found posting on 4chan appealing.
>>223890152lol
>>223895514>the Estevez familythat's your example of good actors?
>>223892574It’s not a problem for everyone else. It’s an opportunity that haters and losers fail to capitalize on because they are actually less talented than the “unqualified” nepobabies.
>>223896153It's my example of famous actors who stuck around for reasons that weren't just "Martin's kids."
>>223890037Did he actually say this? if so, very based.
>>223895715It’s an industry that like 80% of people would join in an instant if given the chance. Being an actor gets you: >fame>money >sexThe three most important things according to American culture.
>>223896117Actually my genes are the best. The science is settled on this matter.
>>223896190And what are those reasons?
>>223896217Yeah, but the child of a movie star can get that no problem. Both audiences and seemingly Jaden Smith himself decided that they weren’t interested in continuing to try to be a 2.0 version of his dad.
>>223896238Wasted on your bad brain. Many such cases on /fit/
>>223891638retarded post, Hollywood had just as much nepotism even during the golden age.
>>223895561>why does reddit XYZ?Nta, you're just as bad
>>223895277>youre supposed to sabotage your kids...?
>>223895813You’re clearly a retarded nigger. Have you ever actually known a homeless person? You don’t become homeless cause you’re down on your luck. It only happens once everyone you know has written you off as a toxic malevolent junkie loser. A lot of them are convicted pedophiles.
>>223890102>Only white boomers think like this.No. Zoomers and undesirables learned a new word and started using it precisely to criticize white people. They're the only ones complaining about "nepo babies."
>>223890037I liked him before and I like him even more now.
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>>223896857*fact check required
>>223890102>There is no such thing as nepotism>Shit films releasing with son/daughter of famous actor like acting is genetic or some shit>People actually going to acting academy and classical training have an uphill battle because first choice is always known celebrities and their offspring regardless of quality.>This is not nepotism apparently
>>223890037based that's rather unfair but at least he's being honest
>>223891847A real American hero who… plays pretend for a living.
>>223896180That doesn't make any sense. The issue with nepotism is that to actually be successful, you ultimately need to be as competent or more competent than the parent to succeed, not their child.If you're great and their child is mediocre, you're still going to lose as long as the parent is spectacular.
>>223895873He itsnt wrong though faggot. Every single Democrat run city that has been staunchly Democrat for half a century just so happens to ALSO have the highest costs of living and worst income inequality in the nation. NYC, California, Etc. Fucking idiot.
Intercourse them
>>223890102What a stupid post. You say something doesn't exist then go on to explain why the thing that doesn't exist is actually ok.
>>223897550Yeah, no shit. Of course the coastal elite cities are going to be the most progressive.
based
>>223890037Based Sly telling it like it is.
>>223890037Negative. THose are the worst. Nepo babies.
>>223896262People liked them.
Under the tutelage of Randy Tutelage.
>>223890037Based Stallone
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>>223895775nepobaby hands typed this post
>>223894992Embarrassment of the highest order.
>>223894992How do you come back from that?
Nepobabies have always been a thing.
>>223900207>marries a jew goblin>creates an androgyn abomination
>>223890102>To not give your offspring advantages in life is pathologicalPart and parcel of that is giving them the necessary skills and upbringing such that they also have genuine merit at the career you've given to themHollywood nepotism isn't that because rich coastal cunts have zero life experience that would lead to believable acting
turns out, there actually are no rules and there are no laws and there isn't even social pressure. everyone just does whatever they want and their success is dependent solely on their ability to avoid accountability while also holding others to their own standards. laws don't matter. enforcement matters.
>>223896857>toxic malevolent junkie losercant help what I was born with
>>223892507>>223897801>>223900911What's with all this coastal hatred? Seems weird. Did a dolphin eat your baby?
It's funny seeing people acting like nepotism in the media is only just now a major problem when it has ALWAYS been extremely prevalent
>>223901260Down economy. People become more critical of financial matters during these trying times
>>223901260>>223901382wrong. its a (deserved) proxy attack on kikes since they are incredibly unpopular right now and their decades (centuries?) of kikery is coming back to bite them. stallone just happens to be incredibly insulated. that's fine though, hollywood is still hemorrhaging money out the ass. it's only a matter of time before actors and musicians go back to being jesters for those with REAL power.
Why should I care who becomes an actor?
While I disagree with the principle of nepotism, pretty much every form of inheritance in any country ever is a form of nepotism so it's pretty much too widespread to stop at this point.Personally I believe all of one's property and wealth should be returned to the state on death. No man or woman alive should be born a billionaire.
>>223890037fuck yeah. sly proving why he's still the fucking boss. gets his daughter a job calls some motherfucker an idiot and doesn't afraid of anything.
is actually pretty amazing how many goy cattle itt will defend milt millionaires who aren't even aware they exist. stay cucked and make sure you skip eating today so you can pay mr david israel shekelbergstein your streaming service subs, $30 imax tickets with $50 small popcorn you'll eat before the movie starts plus tax plus tips you good little goys.
>>223895398Did the middle one have Korean jaw surgery?
>>223894992that woman literally fucked everyone Even Cosby raped her
>>223894992Of shit thats Janice Dickinson that washed up model who looks like hell that used to be on reality tv shows.
>>223890037Most of society's ills come from nepotism. Imagine if there was a 100% income tax. There would be no dynastic wealth. Billionaire families would have no choice but to either plow their money into the economy or the state. People would have to learn to make their own fortune instead of living off mommy and daddy>idgaf family comes firstThen don't complain when society goes to shit because of massive wealth inequality.
>>223895277We’re talking about Hollywood so it really doesn’t matter. It’s not like the pilot or surgeon your life depends on only got his job because of his dad.But Stallone is right, of course you’re going to do everything you can to help your kids. In their case, they live in Hollywood and that’s the only world they know and naturally it’s a dream of many to be a rich and famous actor. So they get a shortcut and leg up on the competition because their parents pull the strings and have sway. I’m going to do everything I can so my kids have advantages. They go to a private school because our public education system sucks and I put them in a lot of sports and other activities for their social and physical development. When they were in public school most parents didn’t do homework with their kids and didn’t care about education. I’m educated and have a bit of money so what should I do instead, hold my kids back so they can be with the ilk? Sabotage them under the guise of “equity”?I don’t blame the parents or the nepobabies at all. The only issue is if the quality of the field they’re in declines because the bar is too low and the good people are kept out because of gatekeeping. But again it’s acting, where someone can win an Oscar for their first role when they’re a teenager kek
>>223897116>fallacy fallacy
>>223903993Caring for your offspring is the most mammalian trait around. You’re wanting the state to wipe out all generational wealth so everyone has to start fresh. Pathetic. It’s against nature.
>>223890037Stallone nepotism is literally a joke in Hollywood
Noooooooooo. You can't just inherit your father's farm and become a farmer. That's neeepootiiismmm. It's unfair! It's outrageous!!!
>>223890037It's natural and correct for these parents to have a nepotistic bias toward their children.But it's also natural and correct to never plainly admit it in public.He thinks he's being "real" here, but he's being a fuckin idiot.
>>223903993>Most of society's ills come from nepotism.This exists in every strata of society. Some construction subcontractor who runs a plumbing business is going to give more jobs to his newly trained son than some random guy, even if the latter is more skilled.We look out for our own. This is always the case. (*especially* among all the foreigners whom you mistakenly think support your libshit politics -- they're all tribal.)
>>223890836me on the right
>>223904204Makes the idea of an actor's guild seem disingenuous
>>223890037Missed the Bruce Willis curse
>>223890037Good on him for offering. Bad on her for accepting. Want to prove yourself? Adopt a stage name and get by on your own merits, otherwise, you’re just spoiled bitch riding Daddy’s coattails.
>>223891878Elon is a huge faggot though.
>>223904034>>223904204Then like I said, don't bitch that wealth is consolidated into the hands of a few, and the system is unmeritocratic.
Why are people in this thread defending Hollywood nepotism as if it applies to them?
>>223890102>There is no such thing as nepotism.
>>223905255Because Jesus said so in the biblerino
>>223890037I really don't have a problem with it as long as their kids are actually talented.Most of the time we end up getting retards who can't act like Jaden Smith and Zoe Kravitz and Johnny Depp's daughter or Milia Jovovich's daughter but still get cast in everything because their parents are famous and influential.Rarely if ever we get actual talents like Michael Douglas and Nicholas Cage who clearly benefited from nepotism but you wouldn't know it.
>>223890037They're discriminated against and can't get real jobs so they are forced into show business. It's really sad actually. It's not nepotism.
>>223890980Nick Reiners RISE UP
>>223895398Sly's daughters mog the shit out of Bruce Willis' daughters.
>>223891308All of his daughters are hot af, his wife is a model though but luckily all daughter inherit the mother face
>>223905255Because some of these posters are in fact Hollywood nepos
>>223895277It should be illegal to have a job you didn't inherit.
>>223904008>I put them in a lot of sports and other activities for their social and physical development.Sports are gay
>you just murdered someone>lol of course it's murder, I wanted him deadnice defence, you lopsided mumbling wop cunt
