This is among the most horrific situations a human can find themselves in, full stop. Probably the most nightmarish video on youtube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO0ioCCiEe8
>>223903356What film is this from?
>>223903356Holy shit you see a guy coming out of the entrance at 6:16, absolutely fucking mental. Also this tape was found on the body of a man named Mathew Picket and was miraculously still intact enough for the audio to be recovered. It captures the sound of what was happening to those who couldn't escape.https://archive.org/details/matthew-pickett-audiotape
>>223903371The footage of the Station Nightclub Fire.
I lived in New England when this happened, it's fucking insane especially considering its geographic proximity to the same thing happening in Boston. And no, no one had forgotten that.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoanut_Grove_fire
>>223903459>492 massholes dyingSuch a tragedy.
>>223903385Thanks, I needed something to masturbate to tonight
>>223903470Listen I'm from there and even I can't get mad, I left for a reason
>>223903356What were their politics?
>>223903385I heard that on a fire like that, a person is usually knocked out by the smoke and dies shortly after. That dude was walking alit, so was that a lie? or just the worst luck?
>>223903689I just listened to the inside recording. 95% of people seem to be knocked out by smoke inhalation, only a few wander around trying to escape. Main characters are real? Memes aside the fiery people were probably near a source of breathing air when they caught fire.
I would have listened to what the fire had to say, and that's what no one else did
The one that happened in the beginning of this year was pretty surreal.It's already been forgotten.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Crans-Montana_bar_fire
>>223903610KYS
>>223903356Such an abrupt, pointless and painful end to so many young lives. Amazed this hasn't been put behind an age filter yet
>>223903470You'll love the replacements even more.
>>223903689It's probably because they were at the entrance, so they had access to fresh air from outside. Most of the people deep inside were probably knocked out by the smoke before the fire reached them.
>>223905111There was also an almost identical disaster in Brazil in 2013 where a pyrotechnic prop ignited acoustic foam on the wall, exactly the same as the tragedy in OP's post. 242 people died.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_nightclub_fire
>>223903356Yeah dude fuck that shit. Imagine burning to death because of some shitty bands pyrotechnics. You just never know what the fuck is around the corner.
damn
>>223903356Yeah I'm familiar with this and this is really fucked up.
>>223903356And ofc if everyone responded rationally they could've filed out in an orderly fashion and all survived... but no, our monkeybrains tell us to cram ourselves into a bottleneck and burn alive.
>>223906959Did they even have time? There are so many comments on the video saying the only reason the cameraman survived was because he moved the instant he saw the fire, and that if he waited 10 seconds more he'd be dead too.Again, genuinely shocked there isn't an age filter on that video. It's more disturbing than a 4K cartel execution
>>223905910>About 90% of the victims died from smoke inhalation,[18] specifically cyanide, which was among the toxic chemicals produced when fire consumed the soundproofing foam on the club's ceiling.I'm sure that's a horrible way to die, but at least it's better than burning alive...?
>>223903356I remember watching this for the first time and it giving me a fit of anxiety.It was just something about imagining me or the people I care about caught in a situation like that.
Stampedes and such are as retarded as they are frightening
>>223903356>Spots the danger quickly and heads for the exit immediately without pausing>Still only just makes it outIt is crazy how quickly things can just go to shit
>>223906959That's really not true. There were more than 400 people crammed into that space and survivors report that there was a bouncer inside stopping people from escaping through an emergency exit. This video explains how it happened.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a242xYyGJWg&t=476s>>223906984Yeah, the cameraman was incredibly lucky he started moving a few seconds before the rest of the crow noticed the fire. Even then, he got stuck in the exit and had to break a window to escape. The people further in who tried to use the main door stood no chance, although some found other exits.
Does anyone itt remember that fire in Switzerland that happened in a Swiss club early this yearA bunch of retards got drunk and caused the insulation on the ceiling to burn and everyone stood around filming on their phones instead of leaving and then a few minutes later a bunch of them diedThere was this meme pic of a guy walking around that dance floor with a chick on his shoulders and she had sparklers or something, so people theorized that is what caused the initial fire. I don’t believe she was his gf or anything so lots of people called him a pathetic simp. I think both of them were among the dead and crispy
I listen to the audio from inside during the fire and you can hear the death rattles of Michael Pickett. It sounds like they're dying slowly but surely the inferno would've roasted them to death quickly?
>>223907199Follow up posthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Crans-Montana_bar_fire41 people diedPretty much everyone everywhere clowned on the victims hard when this happened
>>223907199>>223907221https://news.sky.com/story/swiss-bar-fire-likely-cause-of-resort-blaze-identified-as-teen-educated-in-uk-named-among-missing-13489737
>>223907221People are heartless, half the victims were below 18, some were as young as 14. This is also how I learned that Europeans allow 14 year olds into bars and clubs.
>>223907244I wouldn’t stoop low to make fun of anyone who burns to death, regardless of age. But the types that did laugh at them did so because the victims were doing pretty much everything wrong in that situation, in a way that most other people under 18 would think was avoidable too imo
>>223903356Kinos like this? I only know of the consulate fire in 13 Hours
>>223907244A lot of the hate most likely came from the fact that the victims were for the most part rich kids living it up in the alps
>>223903356Is that the video where you can hear the screams of dozens of people burning to death and then silence?
>>223907091What was that event that happened in Korea a few years back? There was festival of sort with a small block of people above the maximum capacity that all bottlenecked and got stuck. People just suffocated to death. I think videos like in the OP (I’ve seen before) and other such events make me never to want ti go out in large crowds again
Any films about this?
>>223903356>>223905910>>223905111It's absolutely CRAZY that there have been three separate nightclub disasters since the year 2000 caused by sparks igniting flammable foam insulation on the walls/ceiling and clubs -STILL keep putting that stuff everywhere.
>>223907244the lack of survival instincts and general phone-brained actions of the zoomers were pretty shocking. I guess it was the effect of growing up watching everything through a screen and never encountering real danger.
>>223907429That, and the drugs
>>223907426That was the Seoul Halloween Crowd Crush where 159 people died. The crazy thing is, that's nowhere near the deadliest crush in history. There have been multiple disasters where more than a thousand people have been crushed to death by a crowd. The deadliest in known history was in Mina, Saudi Arabia in 2015 where 2,400 people died. There was also a 1990 disaster in Mecca where 1,426 people died, an 1896 disaster in Moscow where around 1,300 people died, and a 2005 disaster in Baghdad where 1,005 people died. There have been many more where the death toll was in the triple digits.
>>223903470t. Shadow the hedgehog
>>223903459>Coast Guardsman Clifford Johnson went back inside the building no fewer than four times in search of his date, who unbeknownst to him, had safely escaped. Johnson suffered extensive third-degree burns over 55% of his body, but survived the disaster, becoming the most severely burned person to survive his injuries to date.[19] After 21 months in a hospital and several hundred operations, he married his nurse and returned to his home state of Missouri. Fourteen years later, he burned to death in a fiery automobile crash.Final Destination shit
>>223907221>>223907242Wasn't this the one where you see multiple people filming the fire on their phones while it was spreading?
>>223907564That is exactly what the first post says, captain redundant
I was thinking about thiswhat would you do if you were in the bar but your wife/gf was in the shitter? Would you try to save her or think “I gotta get out of here”?
I would never be in an enclosed space with 85 iq retards in the first place. I am unbothered by this video.
>13 minutes Yeah im not watching all that What are the good parts
>>223907595Don’t go to these types of events in the first place. Imagine how the competency DEI crisis impacts things from airlines to videogames. It impacts things like setting up a safe pyrotechnics show just as much. I’m not taking my loved ones to some cramped inescapable oven while some slackjawed welfare hatians fumble the wiring or whatever and burn themselves and everyone else alive.
>>223903459Fires happen every place and every time.
>>223907595You either try to save her and very likely get killed (in worst case scenario with you both burning alive together), or you escape without trying but you live with the guilt for the rest of your life. Honestly not sure which is worse>>223907646Well there's someone who runs out the front on fire at 6:16
>>223907646Just watch the first half, the second half is pretty uninteresting because no one inside the building is still alive
>>223907661>(in worst case scenario with you both burning alive together)you pass out from inhaling smoke 10 minutes before the flames actually reach you.two good whiffs of black smoke and you're gone. nobody of these people "burned alive"they were either trampled or killed by the smoke.
>>223907646>your average zoomer and/or brown
>>223907077Other situations you can imagine ways in which you would have escaped but in a crowd crush there's basically nothing you could do
>>223907697>two good whiffs of black smoke and you're gone.Fainted maybe, but does smoke inhalation really kill that quickly?
>>223907697You can literally see someone running out of the building at 6:16 lit up like a torch from head to toe
>>223903356>This is among the most horrific situations a human can find themselves in, full stopmeh, this is up there
>>223903356>This is among the most horrific situations a human can find themselves in, full stopCounterpoint
>>223907725black smoke has soot particles that literally fill your lungs and suppress the gas exchange.and re-breathing CO2 in the smoke saturates your blood and respiratory system, its worse than not-breathing because your entire oxygen exchange process grinds to a halt.people who get rescued out of a fire and passed out in the smoke have lung problems afterwards for months or permanently.fucking with your lungs is something that can kill you extremely quickly
It always shocks me how the cameraman had pretty much everything go right for him to get out. It's still surreal to watch.
>>223907730one out of 400. 99% of the people inside there were dead before they started burning.the most dangerous thing about a fire is smoke, especially inside.
>>223907711Im brown because I dont want to watch whites burn to death?
>>223903356>Full stopKys you hack zoom
>>223907772I said and/or, so I'll assume you're just a zoomer who has no attention span. And you specifically asked for the "good parts," retard.
>>223907762Wonder what was going through his mind. He seemed to notice the danger before anyone, a cynical part of me thinks he realised he would've lowered his chances of survival if he alerted anyone else
>>223903459>it's fucking insane especially considering its geographic proximity to the same thing happening in Boston.Whats more fucking more crazy is that the EXACT same thing happened for the EXACT same reasons only a few months ago. But this time in German.
>>223903356There's no way you could know that there weren't 100 future Hitlers in that nightclub. Think about it rationally.
>>223907725Smoke and fire mean lower levels or no oxygen in the air = suffocationSmoke is often highly toxic depending on what is being burned = poisoning Smoke is also often superheated from the fire = burns your lungsThree ways smoke gets you. Yeah, just a couple deep breaths (when you're also panicked and physically fighting for your life) in a bad fire and you're fucked.
>>223907205You can hear a woman nearby start screaming and just as her screams are about to turn into agonized animalistic squealing the tape gets [REDACTED].
>>223908207Yeah, there are sections of the tape that they never released to the public, you're probably correct that they contain the screams of people burning alive.
>>223907920Wasn't it in Switzerland? I live in Italy and I remmeber seeing it on the news last year....
>>223903356"backstage"kitchenwindowsupstairs for more windows and potential fire escapesif you're feeling especially capable that day then locate a fire extinguisher and give it a try. you'll either die, be a thankless hero, or be able to walk away without guilt.or just avoid public-spaces entirely. those tend to be filled with the public and they're magnets for trouble.
>>223903356Happened crazy fasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D-u1yk3GYs
>>223907762The wikipedia article makes it sound like a ritual sacrifice for one reason, the cameraman.>he was there shooting a piece on "nightclub safety" for local TV >it was the project of another person at the studio>that happened to be one of the two brothers who owned the club>he was inspired to make the piece by another club disaster>the TV station parent company paid out $20 million to the victims ostensibly because of the cameraman's actions (not helping people etc)The last one is probably just part of a broader movement to give those people money, Home Depot gave some millions for no reason, but it's still noteworthy.
>>223903459>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoanut_Grove_firefuck , never even heard of this before and i read about a lot of fires
>>223908325>Wasn't it in Switzerland?They speak German in Switzerland.Same as you speak English in America.But to the story, what club could not know, gluing flammable "sound deadening" to you ceiling is a bad idea.
>>223905925the fire brigade rolls up to my apartment building on average once every other week
>>223907199
>>223908886
I always forget that this happened in 2003. The video quality and the band makes it seem much older
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>>223908681I got so used to false alarms that I started ignoring them, then the next time I waited like 10 minutes until I heard yelling and screaming and stepped into a hallway filling with smoke. Some retard on my floor burned his kitchen down
>>223908990I understand in theory why it happens but videos/pics of people being “stuck” are so surreal and almost comedic; even when associated with tragedies like this though this thread is making me never want to enter an enclosed space with a bunch of other people ever again
>>223907428>wikiNo fucking way the SAME thing happened in North Macedonia last year and killed 63 people. IT KEEPS HAPPENINGhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C4%8Dani_nightclub_fire
>>223909054Doesn't help that the whole basement was built like a death trap
>>223908990The fact that she's visibly burnt means that people absolutely died from being directly burned to death in this incident rather than just smoke inhalation.
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>>223908924THE ROOF IS ON FIRE!
>>223909088>>223909100The common theme in all these building fires with dozens or even hundreds of deaths is that the building were all poorly designed. Many of them had flammable foam insulation on the walls and ceiling, and also had exits that were very difficult to escape from like in the photos here.
It was like 9/11 for people who drive IROCs
>>223903356I think about this shit every time I'm at a concert
>>223909303I don't go to places with large groups of people. Actually I don't go to places with people. To be really honest I don't go anywhere.
>>223903356No, being convicted of being a child molester is the worst fate a human can experience. Nathan Fielder was ahead of his time.
>>223908577So it wasn’t Germany thenAnd that guy is Italian And you are dumb
>>223909354Maybe in the US where there's a high chance you'll be rape to death in prison, the sex offender registry is publicly searchable, you can't live within 500 meters of a school/park/church, and you have to go around and tell all you're neighbours you're a sex offender. But in most first world countries you'll spend a few years in prison and can still live a relatively normal life afterwards.
>>223908886>>223908924>>223908965>Clearly in danger>Zoomies recording it for those sweet sweet likes
If you work security at a large facility, this is basically your whole life. Everything revolves around fire safety. I know more about sprinkler systems and risers than most fire inspectors. Nobody so much as strikes a lighter indoors without a lengthy tedious permit. I spend most of my time, when not regularly inspecting zones where suppression systems have been temporarily disabled, writing up the client for leaving equipment within a few inches of the emergency exits, or inhibiting them in any way. A strand of caution tape in front of an exit is a thousand dollar fine.
>>223909509Well it might get frustrating but after watching the videos posted in this thread you'll never complain about strict fire safety rules again.
>>223903356Christ. Camera guys one of the first one's out and even then it looks like the exit is getting blocked.
>>223909540Not really. I don't care if everyone burns to death. I just like writing up the client. The client's a dickhead.
the fucking pan-right to the only exit out of hell at 0:12 of >>223908924 then finally up that lone exit into what looks to be an equally narrow corridor only to be met by people seemingly desiring to enter hell in >>223908965 with the final conclusion being that your one way out is already blocked >>223908990. one or two people lose their footing and its shrimply ogre for the other hundred behind them.
>>223908990>>223909567a crowd of people + panic = crushseems to happen in all of these fires>>223909088>>223909100The stairs working like a chimney>>223909677>one or two people lose their footing and its shrimply ogre for the other hundred behind them.Seems to be what happened here too
Fire isn't that big of a deal. Everyone is being babies.
>>223907660This is true, but this building and establishment made it purposefully difficult to leave, so people would sneak out on their bill. It became a death trap.
>>223903356At about the 6:36 mark you can see someone moving around in the flames.
>>223903356>-ACK
>>223909749I don't care how many people say "It's the smoke that kills you not the fire" those people are clearly burning alive. That's fucking terrifying.
>>223909980That’s garbage they tell the victims so they think their relatives didn't even feel anything
>>223909980And remember, you don't even have to be literally licked by flames to feel the searing heat and for your clothes to catch fire or start melting.
>>223909835holy shit you're right
>>223910044Every time I have a bonfire at my house I get surprised by just how powerful the radiant heat is even when you're several meters away from the fire itself. As you said, you can get horrifically burned even if you're multiple meters away from the actual flames.
>>223910054Just watched the full video and it's legit one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen.Fucking hell.
>>223910148>>>/reddit/
No fucking the same thing happened in Russia in 2009, killing 158. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lame_Horse_fireAll these incidents are basically identical. Deep inside a nightclub, spark/pyrotechnics ignite foam attached to the walls and ceiling, which causes a rapidly spreading fire. The exits quickly become blocked by the bodies of people trying to leave, cutting off the escape. >The Station Nightclub Fire, USA, 2003, 100 dead.>The Lame Horse Fire, Russia, 2009, 158 dead.>The Kiss Nightclub Fire, Brazil, 2013, 242 dead.>The Kočani Nightclub Fire, North Macedonia, 2025, 63 dead.>Crans-Montana Bar Fire, Switzerland, 2026, 41 dead.Alright, I'm never stepping foot into a nightclub in my life.
>>223910309I'm serious. It's fucking mental.
>>223910436I looked up the Massachusetts one in the OP and it actually had multiple exits (for staff and the band) but bouncers kept people from leaving through those so theu were all forced out the front way
>>223910309>being disturbed by piles of people burning while they're alive and conscious is le bad
>>223909442Why are you proud of protecting chomos?You are sick in the head and need to get your ass kicked. Not even joking
>>223910488>they expect one of us in the wreckage, brother
>>223910689> Multiple survivors claimed that two bouncers blocked the stage door as attendees attempted to escape the building, stating the door was for use by the band, although 20 people managed to exit through that door. Twelve people managed to exit through a door meant for employees, while another 54 people evacuated through the emergency exit in the bar area. Some people who escaped the building broke windows on the left and right sides of the front of the building, providing a quick and safe exit for 24 and 54 people respectively.[24][25]
>>223910478>>223910614>normgroids reaping what they sowed is...... LE SHOCKINGyawn
>>223910689>>223910689kekekek
>>223910757>CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES!
>>223903356>>223903459How would you lads survive a nightclub fire?Of course you could simply be a based autist and not go to them, but once you're there and the fire starts what the fuck do you do?
>>223903356How do people crushes even work? What causes people to stop moving and instead morph into the monster from the new resident evil movie instead? They're moving and appear conscious so what gives? Shock?
>>223910977Force the bouncer to step aside
>>223910689Fuck you for making me laugh
>>223911018Enough people pushing from behind and then someone trips in the front of the mass and you end up trapped under all that weight with no way out
>>223911301>>223911018
>>223911321interesting how it starts moving like fluid
>>223911508Once a crowd reaches a density of 6/7 people per square meter, individual people become incapable for moving for themselves and become essentially particles making up a fluid. Once it reaches a density of 8 or more people per square meter people begin dying because they're packed so tightly together that their chests can no longer expand to allow them to breath. Fatal crushes happen all the time, there have already been five that have occurred this year where multiple people have died.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_crowd_crushes
>>223910723You like to think that in a situation like that you'd at least have the adrenaline fuelled retard strength to charge and bowl those roiding cunts over
>>223911301>Literally crushed, unable to move.>Few people who have got their hands free are on their phones and videoing it
>>223911301>>223911321Ive never been in a crush obviously or I wouldn't be asking but it still seems so bizarre to me. What's to stop you from just wriggling up out of there? Ive been in dense moshpits at rock shows but the crowd never felt like something I couldn't just literally climb up ontop of and walk over peoples heads and shoulders.
>>223911629It would have gone down different if I was there, those bouncers would have taken a pool cue to the head
>>223911709>What's to stop you from just wriggling up out of thereBecause literally everyone else is attempting to do the same.
>>223911018you undestimate the power of the combined weight of 100 people pushing on you from both sides. I remember being in a tight crowd and you could literally feel the force of the crowd moving you in a certain direction. Its either move in the direction or fall and be trampled/crushed
>>223911301this is worse than any horror movie
>>223909835>>223910054wtf? where? i can't see it, what part of the fire?
>>223911301>>223911321Here's more videos of the same incident. https://www.livegore.com/231677/crowd-crush-and-killed-at-seoul-halloween-festivitieshttps://www.livegore.com/231928/man-live-streams-the-horrific-halloween
>>223911932In the entrance where all the people were crushed together. It's hard to see and it just looks like the movement of the flames at first. But if you look closely at the right side of the screen at 3:35/3:36, there is a person moving around in the fire.
>>223912053Sorry I meant 6:35/6:36, not 3:35/3:36
>>223912053>>223912070im still not sure what im looking at, there does seem to be some sort of movement but i can't identify a human, it could easily be a quirk of the videocamera footage, tapes are not reliable at visual accuracy.
>>223908534Probably says in the article but if you see a revolving door anywhere in America it has 2 outward opening doors on either side specifically due to building code legislation as a result of this fire....so I think about it anytime i see them.
>>223912121You might be right, we can't know for sure but it looks like a person to me.
>>223912183Is something like this breakout wing actually standard in revolving doors, even in those gigantic ones seen in e.g. some shopping centers, in case of a panic and people pushing on both sides to get out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eIBdE1hm8o
>>223908493Dude literally broke some windows to let people out
>>223909980Place was probably very well ventilated.
>>223911709I think being strong might help? I was in a pretty packed crowd waiting for a rage against the machine reunion at Coachella 2007. The hour before they came on got pretty intense..at one point had my hands above my head and felt my ribs almost break... After that I made sure to keep my hands at my sides so I could lock my arms and kinda flex out to prevent getting crushed...this was in a crowd of a few thousand. But force coming from all directions. Being in a bottleneck may be different...But I mean, like, I wonder how the deaths ended up occurring And in what areas in korea or various stadium crushes they have in the U. K... Like in a group of Fifty or a hundred people(inside a much larger group) does everyone die or can some survive by being more fit, taller, etc.
>>223912332That's a relatively new feature I believe...kinda crazy that something like that isn't stock... But like, I say, it wasn't until after the coconut grove Fire that they made you have two outward opening doors
>>223912121It looks like an arm going up, something like that
>>223907798>that one chad on the dance floor
>>223911321I think it was this event, there was a chad who climbed up the side of a building to safety
>>223913541Yes, though this is just outside of that alley of death.
>>223911301there's no shot you attempt to pull out from the bottom of the pile, right? i get that the individuals in most urgent danger will be at the bottom but the idea that you're going to just casually yoink em out is ridiculous. your best shot has to be assisting the still conscious individuals a layer or two deeper, a task which is made infinitely easier by them being able to move on their own, and hoping that one domino provides others around them the room to establish footing and/or start squirming free.
>>223913560The white man marches on
>>223913661Then they get replaced by the people behind them and you’re back to start.
>>223913661You'd have to go quite the way back to get to people that are able to move on their own. This is also a downward slope so it's even worse than on flat ground.
>>223913560This had to be set up for a mass sacrifice. Also, look at the bugs trying to drag him down into the fucking crowd.
>>223907428The foam is perfectly appropriate to be there to deaden the sound from the music. It's the sparklers and fireworks (human behaviour) that needs to be corrected.
>>223911301Imagine getting crushed under a bunch of kpop girls
>>223908577Yeah but if you say "X is English" then that means England, not the US or Canada or New Zealand.
>>223913743And before you blackout you feel their penis.
>>223913706>just a heap of asphyxiated corpsesHow did they even dislodge them for removal?
>>223911301They actually rarely happen like that. The vast majority of people who die are standing next to each other, not crushed under layers of people. The crowd is packed so tight that the dead bodies are still kept in a standing position, and only fall to the ground once the crowd disperses.
just don't go outside don't go anywhere
>>223913794Probably cleared the crowd from up the alley that are pushing down.>>223913795Yeah, all it needs is a doorway or some other tighter opening that blocks the mass from moving and you're stuck I suppose.
>>223903356>those 3 people who died in the bathroomDo you think they were taking a massive shit?
>>223913838 this is often the case
>>223913802>don't go outside>massive earthquake>get crushed anywayIS THERE NO SOLUTION
>>223913835One of the largest crowd crushes in human history occurred in a gigantic open field during the coronation of Tsar Nicholas II in 1896. There was no small alley or bottleneck, just a crow of 500,000 people all pushing together. 1,282 people died.
>>223913838their bodies were found inside the toilets, presumably desperately trying to survive.
>>223913838Wonder what the guy in the kitchen was doing
>>223913922Close to an exit too. Probably couldn't see shit due to smoke. Just horrible
>>223913910Do some more research. Most of the dead were trapped in a ditch and crushed by the crowd on top of them.
>>223913910jesus. I will be avoiding all crowds for the rest of time
>>223913915>their bodies were found inside the toiletswhat a shitty way to die
>>223913681except the white men in the crowd
>nobody posted this kino yet
>>223914164Amazes me how slow people are to react in the moment
>>223914164https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Qaraqosh_wedding_fireFucking hell, 107 people died.
>>223914271normalcy bias
>>223907244when I was a teen in the 2000s some clubs would open from 5 to 10 for teens with no drinks served, maybe that's what's happening here? When I went a semester in France you'd get carded in every club if you looked young
>>223907426that's probably the most disturbing thing I saw happen live on the internet, that wall of people stuck together at one point is still something I think about whenever I'm around large crowds. That and the dude who just started climbing up signage and the people laughing at him.
>>223914164>>223914325oh, i thought that was a fire suppression system going off but it was actually the roof collapsing. that does not look like a 100+ death fire by the webm. 27 children perishing, i imagine the rest are lots of seniors.
Why don't people just not set off fireworks indoors
>>223907798>drummer oven
>>223913298Wonder how he died.Back of the crush when the bottleneck started, or knocked out when the rush started?
>>223913298>>223914508he was dropping it like it's hot
>>223914508Another vaxx victim
>>223903385Fuck that. Thanks but no thanks. I’ll hear whatever is on that tape for the next two weeks in my head.
>>223914508He died when his moves became too hot to handle.
>>223905015Fuck you asshole for making me chuckle over such a played out meme.
>>223914602You cunt
>>223906984>>223905402What’s with you and age filters? A young person seeing this video is going to be far more likely to get the hell out of a burning building. Young people are complete retards. Just telling them about fire safety isn’t going to have an impact like a video like this because they’re invincible and that happens to other people.
>>223903385>https://archive.org/details/matthew-pickett-audiotapeBrutal. That one chick survived for such a long. It was quite sad hearing her beg for somebody to help her.
>>223914818The scream at the end is what gets me as it's likely where she's starting to burn alive.The whole fucking thread. Next time I go out somewhere with a crowd I'm gonna be hyper conscious of knowing where and how I can gtfo in case something happens.
>>223903459>>223903356>>223907549Fun fact, due to the Cocoanut Grove fire, ALL revolving doors you see today will always be flanked by two swing doors on each side so people could never get trapped in the revolving door again.
>>223914818At one point you hear people begin screaming, and just as the screams get more intense the audio cuts out for a good 20 seconds or so. I can only imagine what was on that portion of audio that was deemed so disturbing that they decided it couldn't be released to the public.
>>223914898That's actually interesting, thanks.
>>223914903nah, it was cause someone started playing copyrighted music.
>>223914753Indeed, if those kids in the Swiss bar had seen the video linked in the OP, they probably would have gotten the fuck out of there instead of standing around and filming. The video of the Station fire should be shown in schools.
>>223914940kek
>>223914940>Aaaaaa I'm burning, I'm buuuurning!>I'M BLUE, I WILL BLEED, I WILL DIE!
>>223914958Think parents would complain about it being too graphic and giving their kids PTSD, some shit like that.I remember getting shown this in secondary school, around '98https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HzAuSA8Syk
>>223914898why use them at all and not just use a really big door like a barn door?
>>223907380>A lot of the hate most likely came from the fact that the victims were for the most part rich kidsThis is why I still think that the poor are so much more insufferable and nasty than rich people, even if they can't necessarily have as much of an impact as wealthy people can. They're filled with pettiness and envy, and hate themselves and the world.
>>223903385What causes the snoring?
>>223911321>>223911301is that the one with the white dude just climbing up some billboard?
>>223915129>>223913560>>223915086They control the flow of people (only a few people at a time can enter/exit) and are efficient in keeping outside air out and inside air in
>>223907595Escape always escape remember this bros
>>223907152The cameraman was there for the local news filming a spot about night club safety after a stampede killed 30 people 3 days before, even weirder is the reporter on the piece was one of the owners of the club who was basically advertising it as being safe
>>223915116It's the death rattles that Picket makes as he's suffocating from the smoke
>>223907199Yeah we all remember it anon it was literally this year, it was the 40 promised jew children the jews promised to baal with their memes on Oct 7th
>>223903356>You didn't know that rock and roll burned>So, you bought a candle and you lived and you learnedDumbest.Tragedy.Ever.Niggers INTENTIONALLY lit fireworks inside a fucking club...a club. Directly under flammable foam too, by the way.Morons.
>>223909374He didn't say it was in Germany you imbecile, he said it was in German
>>223915019Pssh, that doesn't hold a candle to Forklift Driver Klaus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja7ap6AEuYU
>>223913560>Slant eyed bugs mock the Faustian white man as they all slowly file to their deaths
>>223915317Can we at least agree that it's a bit odd to refer to disasters by language rather than location?
>>223915310Even more depressing when you consider all those people died for a great white concert
>>223913728They turned the vax signal on to test it, that is 100% what it was designed for, watch the movie Cell
>>223912359>the official explanation is completely ridiculousmust be something else then
>>223915444>more depressing when you consider all those people died for a great white concert
How is this thread still up when it has nothing to do with television or film but my Emma Watson AI upskirts threads keep getting deleted in 5 seconds despite being about an actress?
>>223915498Laugh at the off-topic posting buttmad coomer everyone
>>223907549>21 months in hospital>several major surgeriesIt's like if a shark took a bite of a penguin that escaped onto a boat, and was given medical attention and ultimately saved, only to be killed later when returning to the waterOn the one hand I feel for a guy burning to death, in the other hand, how much biodiversity has been burned or chemically scorched by humankind?
>>223915498you gonna cwy about it? wittle baby? gonna piss and shit your diaper?
>>223915537I mean I think what he's going to do is what he did, which was post about it. Why are you asking him "what he's gonna do" after he did something Wouldn't it make more sense to mock him as being incompetent or something?
Who the fuck wants to see g'damn SPARKLERS and fireworks at a night club rock show? Just play the fucking music,flash some fucking lights, and be done with it already. No need for a fucking fireworks display.
>>223915563>flash some fucking lightsAgree except this. I don't want to be blinded by some retard
>>223915498Aren't those illegal or something?
>>223915391No
>>223909054Inescapable crushes spook me the fuck out more than the fire does. At the beginning the of the novel Domain by James Herbert there's one in one of those mile long escalator tunnels in the London underground. Horrifying way to die. Only part of the whole novel that kinda bothered me.
>>223915554i have no grounds to comment on his competency or lack thereof. my insults actually mean something, i don't pull them out of my ass like you do your dildos. i possess a genuine curiosity if the anon is an infant and wonder about the contents of their diaper.
Also happened near me strange this about this fire was that it was a blaze. It burned for just a few minutes and all the oxygen was gone and it put itself out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volendam_New_Year%27s_fire
>>223909749Jesus Christ
Is it possible to make a movie about a crush?Maybe a Fall-style “stuck somewhere and have to escape” movie where two hot female friends are stuck in a crush at a Trump rally
>>223914976Bro thought he cooked
>>223912502my very first concert I saw Gojira in a packed out place and thought it was a good idea to push up to the very front so I could lean against the railing. Fucking thought that rail was going to break my ribs into pieces because of the crowd pushing up against me, never again front row.>>223911709I could never find it again, but the day after this happened someone posted a translated webm of some chinese news channel with x ray'd cartoon re-enactements of how the bodies interlock as they crowd in together, the people who pass out or die act like locking pieces adding more and more dead weight to the people around them until it's a big block of human death.
>>223911604>almost all of them are in IndiaI don't feel so bad anymore
>>223915498> b-but AISHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGER
They should make an Irwin Allen style movie about the Paris fireworks disaster in 1770. A fireworks at display celebrating Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette's wedding went wrong in the heart of Paris cause enormous explosions, a gigantic fire, AND enormous crowd crush of people trying flee.
>>223913560finally all those hours at the climbing gym pay off
>>223913706iirc it could have been much worse but a couple of dudes who saw it start going south climbed over the wall on the right and started getting help to divert incoming crowds away
this thread piqued my interest to see the worst nightclub fires ever. The Cocoanut one in Boston is the worst ever in terms of deaths but this is the second worst and it’s a doozy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luoyang_Christmas_fire>building hires unlicensed welder to weld in a hole he can’t see in>starts a fire>300 nightclub patrons on fourth floor of building all die in minutes from carbon monoxide poisoning
>>223915852Honestly it kinda sounds like the patrons experienced something of a mercy all things considered.
>>223915852>Dongdu Commercial Building was a commercial building, completed on 3 November 1990, then as Laocheng Mall. Prior to that, the site had mostly consisted commercial slums and before that, it was the site of a Fire God temple.
>>223905167How do you know they supported MAID?
>>223915852Here's another one for you. It was probably arson that started it too.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Hills_Supper_Club_fire
>>223903371fpbp
>>223903356It's just a fire bro, not even that scary. Looks like everyone gets out more or less
>>223914164Can someone ITT explain to me what it is in situations like this that makes people so slow to react? In my mind the moment I'm inside a building and I see fire start to spread across a ceiling I am SPRINTING for the exit after maybe quickly telling the people I'm responsible for to do the same. Why is almost nobody doing that in these clips? Are people just retarded? Or is there something about these situations where even I could also be affected?
>>223915981100 people died
>>22391602930 people have the same idea as you. The exit is small.
>>223916029>>223916057Also you've probably had too much too drink by this point.
>the camera man blotting to the exit and not telling anyone
>>223913298Fuck you for making me laugh
>>223916057>>223916108in the case of the nightclub fire and the weird wedding event webm, the footage clearly shows a distinct lack of 30 people sprinting out while the fire spreads, it shows people seeing the fire spreading across the ceiling and, although panicking, I don't see 30+ people sprinting out instantly. so I ask again, what is stopping people from immediately sprinting away the moment they see that fire spreading across the ceiling?
>>223916029>I am SPRINTINGCongratulations; you tripped, fell, and died in a stampede at a choke point
>>223915895Huh-huh.You said dong.
>>223916146What can I tell you? Sometimes people just blue screen and fail to think/react properly when events turn into a deadly emergency is two seconds flat.
>>223916158again niggerman you didn't read my post, I'm not trying to say I'd magically survive a crush through a narrow exit, I'm asking why people IN THE VIDEOS WE ARE WATCHING are clearly filmed NOT sprinting away the instant the fire starts spreading across the ceiling? My question is about the psychology of people standing and watching the fire, not about whether escape would be feasible.
>>223916197yeah that's my assumption. I pray my reaction time would be quick enough to instantly get the fuck out.
>>223903356This is fucking harrowing jesus christ.Is that a woman screaming as she burns to death at 1:40?
>>223907091im still always shocked by the bradford city fire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctT8_LiD2cU&rco=1
>>223916029>spot the fire>process that it is a fire>determine the threat-level because you don't want to look like a bitch that just high-tails it at the first sight of any danger>threat crosses the panic threshold for everyone in the room at the same time>try to decide between looking for an exit and locating your family/friends to get them out>decide to (foolishly) look for your family/friends>turns out, trying to find your family and friends during a dark, smoke-filling room while everyone is running and screaming is impossible>decide you should shrimply exit and trust that the others will too>frantically orient yourself and head for the way you came in>it's fucking blocked because everyone goes towards the entrance they used>the smoke is heavier and the fire is spreading which is cutting off pathways>essentially need to just gamble on one of three hallways cause you won't have the opportunity to retrace your steps with the rate of spread and you're gambling because who makes note of exits as they enter an establishment>you burn to a crisp in a random back office>some naive teenager sitting at their keyboard calls you a retard for not having instantly usain bolting through a window at the first sparkler nor memorized the floor-plan of the night club
>>223916245It's hard to know. It's very possible. It also possible she survived.
This thread makes me want to watch the Towering Inferno again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAvd1YlEEAU
>>223916198I never meant to answer your question there.
>>223916274hey jackass I'm not saying I'm special, I'm genuinely asking why people in the videos we're watching don't respond quickly. more importantly I think your reading is correct and applies pretty well to the station video and the wedding video, but the nightclub fire with the zoomers clearly shows everyone not doing any of the shit you mention, people taking out phones and filming whilst fire spreads on the ceiling, which is retarded.
>>223905402>>223906984Kill Yourself Please
>>223916409>zoomersHere's the answer there you go
>>223911301Good thing I'm asocial so I'll never be in these situations.
>>223903356>In February 2008, Providence television station WPRI-TV and its then-owners LIN TV made an out-of-court settlement of $30 million as a result of the claim that their video journalist Brian Butler obstructed escape and did not sufficiently help people exit.I didn't get that from watching the video at all? The guy got out quickly from a fire which as >>223906984 points out would have killed him if he'd waited even fifteen seconds longer. What does he do wrong in this video? Besides continue to film which imo he should've stopped the instant he leaves the building.
>>223915702>Is it possible to make a movie about a crush?As far as making a full runtime movie goes: you can pad out the film by throwing in flashback scenes.As far as making a compelling story goes, can't say for sure.
>>223916523I feel like you could have a really effective crush scene(s) as part of a larger disaster.
>>223916549A zombie movie with a crush scene where the crushed dead ones rise up to eat the living would make 1b+ at the box office
>>223909142we need the RIGHT WING SAFETY SQUAD to make a comeback somehowshame lefties learned to stop bragging about their fucking deathtraps
>>223916585Stupidest idea I would probably go to the theatre to see.
>>223910436I get a primal fear from any business that's tucked away in some basement.there's escape rooms / axe throwing here and the place does not feel safe to me at all
>>223915785>Paris fireworks disaster in 1770.Hmm makes me think of how new technologies can also lead to new scales of disasters... All the unsafe shit that had to be discovered by trial and error during the Industrial Revolutions.the Foundation tv show opens up with a scene about space terrorism where a space elevator is destroyed and tons of people die from the collapsing structure... Will that be a reality in our descendants' future?
>>223913560spider whitespider whitesaved by upper body might
>>223915895I don't believe in fire gods but rituals done by people are entirely possible
>>223916698Space disasters of the future will make night club fires looks a minor bad day. Basically everything that can wrong on a submarine if the submarine was the size of a cruise ship.
there was an FBI agent who described the tape recordings of the Toolbox Killers torturing their victims. he said if you seen a horror movie and a character gets tortured or killed, it's just acting, their screams are nothing like the sound of a real human being being tortured.
>>223914940FIIIIIRRRRRREEEEE-RRRRRR-RRRRRRRSMOKE ON THE HORIZONFIRE, AHSMOKESTACK LIGHTNING
>>223916698Oh yeah I remember that scene, good stuff. A shame that the show enjoyed huffing its own fart so much that it got boring fast
>>223916727the audio of Nick Berg being beheaded is one of the most horrifying things in existence. no one who's heard it has ever been able to sleep at night again.
>>223916727that's some Sir Christopher Lee count dooku backstab glugg glugg sound lore type shit. Probably true and I do take his word for it but it almost sounds like a humble brag, in a dark humor comedic sense lol
>>223916786I watched that when I was 9 pussy
>>223915895>and before that, it was the site of a Fire God temple>KOJIMA!
>>223916727>Paul Bynum, the chief investigator of the murders committed by Bittaker and Norris, died by suicide in December 1987. He was 39 years old. In a ten-page suicide note,[12]:276 Bynum specifically referred to the murders committed by Bittaker and Norris as haunting him and of his fear they may be released from prison.[110]
I want to see a movie about the Erfurt disaster first.
>>223916727you can hear just about a second or two of it in a documentary on those scumbags. a woman racing out of the courtroom during the playing of it to the jury. Even that is unforgettable. On YT.
once again I win by being a NEET and never having to socialize or put myself in situations like this
>>223910488>bouncers kept people from leaving throughfor what purpose
>>223907595>>223907661During the Pulse nightclub shooting, police had sledgehammers and bashed a few holes on one side of the building.If there's a fire, you'd probably only be able to escape through a door.
>>223917109I think they couldn't see the fire at first and didn't know what was happening. This kind of shit escalates real fucking fast.
>>223916727Just reading about this. Disturbing shit.
>>223910977*teleport behind the exit* heh nothing personnel kid
>>223916409because normalfags, not just zoomers, are borderline cattle and naturally as a consequence of this they won't know about things like flashoversthey see a fire slowly spreading and think they have time, someone will take care it no big dealthen suddenly the area gets hot enough to ignite the entire area just from the heat and suddenly time to go except oops everyone else just had that same idea and now they've jammed themselves in the door and now you're fucked
>>223903371It isn’t from a movie. What are you gonna do about that, punk? Yeah that’s what I thought, bitch.
>>223903610Rhode Island, so they were prob mostly dems
>>223917118if these incidents have taught me anything it's that the second shit starts going sideways I'm finding the nearest window and busting through it, doors be damned
>>223917268That'll make the fire spread faster.
>>223917298yeah but then I’d be outside sucks to suck
>>223911301>>223911321This is just what Asian people do, they form blobs of biomass in the winter to keep warm, stat safe from predators, and share nutrients. Fascinating creatures.
>>223913706two of those chicks on the bottom of the screen look legit dead, sandwiching a guy who's still alive.
>>223917322159 deaths total. it was typically women and individuals of shorter stature that died during that crush incident.women not only tend to be shorter but they're just weaker physically and will have a harder time creating space for themselves.>but why manlets and womanletsbecause the thing that kills you is the inability to expand your diaphragm. if you can get your mid-torso above the pressure then you'll avoid the asphyxiation. being shorter will also make it easier for you to end up below a pile and/or lose your footing as you ride the wave of flesh, at which point you're at the mercy of fluid dynamics.
>>223916919Link?
>ctrl+f>Oakland>Ghost Ship>0 resultssucks I found this thread late. maybe next time.
>>223916727>Toolbox Killers> Bittaker was sentenced to death for five murders on March 24, 1981, but died of natural causes while incarcerated on death row at San Quentin State Prison in December 2019.>Norris accepted a plea bargain whereby he agreed to testify against Bittaker and was sentenced to life imprisonment on May 7, 1980, with possibility of parole after serving thirty years. He died of natural causes at California Medical Facility in February 2020.whenever anyone wants to talk about the death penalty being cruel and unusual I'll have to remember these guys got to live another 38+ years after being arresed.
>>223911301>>223911321I remember a infamous video of this with the one white guy in the crowd of thousands climbing the side of a building.
>>223917298not my problem
i wonder if there are people who survive these situations just from pure adrenaline and manage to claw their way on top of the crowd and just scrabble their way out like a wild animal
>>223917550Yeah, how the fuck does that even happen
>>223916029>what it is in situations like this that makes people so slow to react?Herd mentality. Individual thought and action is rare among people, especially when surrounded by others.
>>223918237What really fucks with my mind is the people filming it on their phones.There's no worry about this shit could be going bad, fast.It's an immediate "gotta get this for social media."Seeing stuff like that, I do wonder if vanity has replaced survival instincts.
Hey anon, how would you adapt a household air compressor into a clean air supply mask for toxic atmospheres?
>>223916949
>>223918401It's a plain full face shield with compressor hose taped into the respirator and a schrader valve attachment stuck toward your mouth with a section of bike tire filled with styrofoam. When you push the tire valve into the attachment you get a hit of air and the excess just escapes at your ankles
