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>wanted to burn down a whole town just because a sexy brown girl wouldn't fuck him
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>>223918338
Relatable desu
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>>223918338
She really had no reason not to fuck him
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>>223918338
He never even asked her out.
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Big quasi cock be like that
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>>223918470
You know what they say about girls with thick eyebrows
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>>223918499
LOL
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>French Disney villain chad Gaston: Predator
>French Disney villain geriatric Frollo: actual tragic antagonist dreamboat heartthrob for women.
And they're surprised I'm not interested..
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>>223918338
this is why chuds shouldnt be given power
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>>223918526
'they'? Who's 'they'?
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>>223918338
>>223918470
in the book he offers to let her go if she fucks him and she refuses because she thinks he's old and ugly. also she's like 12
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>>223918773
There was this weird period in the mid 2010s where tumblr foids found Frollo sexy and would draw him in bondage gear
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>>223918470
christ, she’s asking for it
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>>223918869
>tumblr foids
What the fuck were you even on tumblr for back then if not for the porn you fruit lmao
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>>223918338
When I was a kid I thought Frollo was a woman.
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>>223918923
Imagine being on tumblr at all, this was posted on /tv/
>muh poooooorn muh shitty compressed .gifs
Yeah, really crappy excuse xister.
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>>223918955
Bodied that tranny lmao
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Is he the best Disney villain? Or top 3 at least, after a thread last month im interested in watching like the top 5 villain Disney movies. Mulan would slide in most likely
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>>223918520
Delete this.
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>>223918520
'modobros.... not like this...
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>>223919009
>Mulan would slide in most likely
Shan Yu looks cool but is kind of one-note. Scar and Frollo are top-tier.
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>>223919009
Hades, Frollo, Scar, Gaston, Yzma
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>>223919063
Yeah I know hes not deep but for what he symbolizes and the terror he evokes I think it bumps him to the top of the one note villains
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>>223918520
>Tobey Maguire just did this irl
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>>223918520
>cucked by a chad
Was Quasimodo an incel?
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>>223919115
Tobey had Ice Spice waiting for him off to the side.
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>>223919088
I adore Hades and Hercules but is he really a great villain or do you just love the movie (like myself)
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>>223919088
Ratigan's better than at least two of them
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>>223919182
NTA but Hades is a really good performance at the very least, he might not be very complex but he is really damn entertaining.
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>>223918944
You were a retarded kid.
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>>223919182
Hades is great
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>>223918470
gypsies don't look like that
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>>223919207
Never watched this one, is it really too notch
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>>223919211
>>223919280
Ill keep it in the roster, Hercules for most of my life was the best Disney film id ever seen
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>>223919289
Gypsies prostitute themselves and their children. Sometimes they get impregnated by a white chad and have non-gremlin looking offspring once in awhile.

I remember an anon talking about how he married a gypsy that looked like a normal white girl, but all her cousins looked like trolls and were trashy people.

Gypsies are almost all bad and deserved to be genocided even the humanpassing ones.
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>>223919385
They are genetically indian so it's not even a surprise.
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>>223919401
Aren't they Romanian? Thats not indian, even if theyre Georgian thats still a few degrees away. Not like theyre bangladeshi
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>>223919466
they're literally from what is today Punjab
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>>223919484
Shiieet I googled it you're right, all these years I thought gypsys were just south eastern euro, still brown like Albanians but not full
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>>223919503
>europe had proof that indians don't assimilate for centuries and still learned nothing
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>>223919484
>>223919503
When I was a kid I thought Gypsies were Mexicans or Spanish
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>>223918338
Gypsies are sluts and he's rich and powerful. He could have just asked, or outright just paid her to fuck.
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>>223918338
>wanted to burn down a whole town just because a sexy brown girl wouldn't fuck him
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>>223919503
>all these years I thought gypsys were just south eastern euro
bruh
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>>223919520
>Functioning civilizations always get ruined because they allow too many low IQ darkies in.
>Historyfags say they study history so it doesn't repeat itself
>Historyfags ignore what happened to Ancient India when they let too many darkies in
>Historyfags are all libshits that vote for mass immigration from third world shitholes into western countries
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>>223919063
Shan Yu has the best henchmen at least, most other Disney villains have comedy relief characters as their minions
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>>223919137
>At his ex's wedding
Why would you be at your ex's wedding except to crash it like Garth Brooks in Friends In Low Places
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>>223918338
>Beata Maria
>You know I am a righteous man
>Of my virtue I am justly proud
>Beata Maria
>You know I'm so much purer than
>The common, vulgar, weak, licentious crowd
>Then tell me, Maria
>Why I see her dancing there
>Why her smold'ring eyes still scorch my soul
>I feel her, I see her
>The sun caught in her raven hair
>Is blazing in me out of all control
>Like fire, Hellfire
>This fire in my skin
>This burning desire
>Is turning me to sin
>It's not my fault
>I'm not to blame
>It is the gypsy girl
>The witch who sent this flame
>It's not my fault
>If in God's plan
>He made the devil so much stronger than a man!
>Protect me, Maria
>Don't let this siren cast her spell
>Don't let her fire sear my flesh and bone
>Destroy Esmeralda
>And let her taste the fires of hell
>Or else let her be mine and mine alone
>Hellfire, dark fire
>Now gypsy, it's your turn
>Choose me or your pyre
>Be mine or you will burn!
>God have mercy on her
This dude really just needed to jerk off to clear his head
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>>223919503
Gypsies are parasites and live off of the labor of whites. Indo-european is term about ancient white flight. It's why there are blonde hair blue eyed people between India and Europe in the Middle East(also some are descendants of kidnapped whites made into slaves). Whites fuck off and try to live places free of poos but the poos keep following, IE North America.
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>>223918526
ill take some tumblrinas thirsting over an old man over the literal fucking pedophiles on this board
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>>223919009
Frollo is mid outside of having the best villain song. He's just some no-charisma old faggot with a boner
Scar easily mogs
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>>223919299
It's a good one, easily one of the best of the post-Walt and pre-Renaissance animated films. Comfy Victorian London setting, great voice acting.
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>>223919679
Then why are you here and not there? That's right literal fucking pedophiles are more fun to talk to than women.
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>>223919289
>gypsies don't look like that
In the original book, Esmeralda wasn't an actual gypsy, she was taken and raised by them as a baby, her mother was locked in a cell near the main square in Paris. I'm assuming the Disney film was developed with her background in the novel in mind, but was eventually cut out of the final film.
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>>223919775
After Aladdin they realized how brown women are just superior to white ones.
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>>223918338
Welcome to /pol/
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>>223918821

>in the book he offers to let her go if she fucks him

He makes a similar offer in the Disney movie

>Frollo: "The time has come, gypsy. You stand upon the brink of the abyss. Yet even now, it is not too late. I can save you from the flames of this world... and the next. Choose me, or the fire."

Frollo wasn't a bad looking dude. IRL soulless whores like Emma Watson settled for way worse, spreading her asshole to get Weinstein'd. Frollo's a much better catch. Why didn't Esmeralda just go for it? Let Frollo sniff on her and worship her, fucking her brains out, in all the luxury the French nobility has to offer. That's a pretty smooth deal
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>>223918338
don't you watch the news? the french will burn down france for literally any reason.
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>>223919908
in the book i know frollo was short and i think he was bald
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>>223918338
me except it's when I see a brown person
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>>223919956
Yeah. French...
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>>223919986
go to bed elon
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>>223920111
>timmies invaded they weren't let in Rome
>Rome fell from infighting, Chinese dynasties as well, which made them even more vulnerable to invaders

>egypt died when greeks cut off some of their trades routes. infact a lot of people died when the trade routes stopped bringing in tin for bronze production.
>Unironically this made people use more iron and eventually develop steel around the eastern hemisphere.


>NA was already a violent shithole before british timmies showed up
>NA is still has violent shitholes where there are barely any timmies IE Native American Reservations and Detroit, Chicago, ETC.

just shut up and let oppressed browns move into your 1 bedroom apartment to show you're a real ally
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>>223918338
>100% right about gypsies
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>>223920111
>Anon is a 2016 election tourist and doesn't remember 4chan before the Indians were allowed to have internet and smartphones
>Anon doesn't remember the time India lost internet and all of the internet was better for a few days
>Anon doesn't remember how the site got slightly better when the captcha got too hard for low IQ turdworlders
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>>223918338
To be fair, there is only one God and its betweens a woman's legs. Who wouldnt burn down a stupid town in order to feel .. le touché de Dieu?
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>>223918350
>>223918470

very relatable now that I'm in my mid thirties but still lusting after prime teen age pussy (totally legal over in evropa)
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>>223918508
even thicker bush?

>>223918520
>hot chicks friendzones the incel and ends up with white chad

most realistic disney movie ever

>>223919639
tobey is friends with leonardo, he isnt in shortage of girls to fuck so he has no hard feeling towards ex fuckholes
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>>223920375
Would've been much better if they just left the line as is.
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>>223919092
>what he symbolizes and the terror he evokes
Balding is pretty scary
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>>223918338
Now the inverse is happening.
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>Go look up Frollo art
>Surprising amount of it depicts Esmerelda being responsive to Frollo's advances in some seductive or coy way
>Even more art of the scene of him sniffing her and Esmerelda looking defiant but it is more erotic looking

Looks like Frollo manhandling Esmerelda has some female artists getting excited
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>>223918944
He does have granny-ish hair but if you thought that after he spoke you're retarded
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>>223920566
ugly bastard hentai > vanilla non self insert chad hentai > kind hearted dysgenic freak hentai
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>>223919116
He could have killed that chad if he wanted. Then raped Esmeralda's hairy brown cooch. He's just a nice guy.
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>>223918338
Yep, he's a based incel just like me. What other incel characters are there?
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>>223919908
>choose me or... your pyre..... be mine or you will BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURNNNNNN
so kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3NoDEu7kpg
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>>223919063
He is one note but he's also an actual threat. Villains like hades are a bit too comedic for me to ever take them seriously (still fun to watch though). The mongols are no nonsense here to murder you and burn everything types which are rare in these kinds of movies.
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>>223918338

Why is this kind of hypocrite, self-justification loop, scrupulocity so common? "I'm a good person. Yet I have these sinful obsessions. But I'm a good person; therefore it can't be my fault. Therefore it is the temptress fault. Therefore SHE MUST BE MINE OR BURN" This is fucked up stuff. I have heard a lot of people meet people like Frollo, religious or not, and they all agree they are loathsome to be around them.
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>in the past this guy burns down paris for gypsy pussy
>in the present brown people burn down paris so they can steal expensive things
where did we go so wrong
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>>223919289
they do, aside from the blue eyes
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>>223920965

To be fair, Esmerelda's brown pussy is top grade. I don't blame Frollo in the least
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>>223920868

He is a textbook study in ego-syntonic rationalization, spiritual narcissism, and scapegoating. The loop you outlined is essentially a psychological survival mechanism for someone who cannot tolerate flaw or shame in themselves.

Most healthy humans have ego-dystonic reactions to bad thoughts or impulses: "I had a terrible thought. I feel guilty, but I recognize it's my issue to fix." They accept that human beings are messy and flawed.

People like Frollo operate on absolute moral purity. They view themselves as fundamentally righteous, pure, or morally superior. When an unwanted, messy, or shameful desire arises, their brain encounters a catastrophic threat: If I own this desire, my entire self-identity crumbles. To prevent total psychological collapse, the mind relies on projection. You don't need to be religious for that to happen. It just requires a High-Minded Moral Identity.

This kind of Scrupulosity is a form of OCD or psychological distress involving pathological guilt and hyper-fixation on moral or religious purity. But when scrupulosity blends with moral narcissism, it becomes dangerous mix of self-fulfilling Martyr Complex and The Transgressor-as-Victim dynamic:

"Look how much I am suffering because of this temptation. My suffering proves how holy/good I am."

Frollo convinces himself that he is the victim in the scenario. Esmeralda isn't the victim of his harassment; he is the victim of her existence. Once someone convinces themselves they are the victim, all restraint vanishes. A "victim" feels completely entitled to fight back, retaliate, punish, and destroy; all under the guise of self-defense or restoring moral order.

People who run this loop are notoriously horrific to interact with because you cannot reason with someone who believes their cruelty is a virtue. You can never get a sincere apology from them. Any attempt to hold them accountable is interpreted by them as an attack on their goodness.
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>>223920986
oh, and they tend to be very short and often get fat
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>>223921002

>Look up French gypsies
>Fat chick in a red dress

Not bad
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>>223918470
They didn't "ask women out" in those days lol
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I always have to think about the 4chan Frollo from back when

https://youtu.be/heIH9vfwKBM?is=WiylxEfg61TTnYBL

It was a better time
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>>223918338
that gypsy ass was fire! fire burrrrrrns
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>>223919640
Spilling your seed is a sin, anon.
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>>223921402
So is thinking about it
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>>223920228
They wave Algerian flags and their slogans are in Arabic. Those dastardly French...
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>>223920995
Don't do that.
AI fag, in case you can't tell.
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>>223918338
white people be like that
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>>223920995
Which is why biblical literacy excplicitly outlining the fallen nature of Man is required. Thank the Lord for the Reformation.
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>>223921486
It was a good post. If i learned something why should i care?
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>>223918338
Literally me.
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>>223918338
LMFAO
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>>223920995
>Once someone convinces themselves they are the victim, all restraint vanishes. A "victim" feels completely entitled to fight back, retaliate, punish, and destroy; all under the guise of self-defense or restoring moral order.
Marxism and feminism in a nutshell.
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>>223921631
You see the irony of your post don't you?
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>>223918338
I would just listen to him, and that's what no one did.
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>40 year old neonazi double agent who has tortured and murdered people
>worst memory is a teenage girl telling him to wash his pants
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>>223921696
you dont understand, he was redpilled by CHAD potter into eternal chuddom
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>>223921110
Would.
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>>223921696
He was systematically bullied infront of his peers in a small community during his formative years
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>>223921655
Marxism and feminism are objectively driven by grievances.
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>>223918520
tell lot about posters here identifying with the deformed ginger than chad blonde
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>>223921819
He was already into the dark arts by then.
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>>223918869
why are you seething over what teen girls did 20 years ago?
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>>223922100
All politics is
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>>223919207
>just like those widows and orphans you drowned
did he go too far?
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>>223922107
So? Does that make his social ostracization less severe for some reason?
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>>223919639
He kinda had to be there
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>>223920868
its common incel/chud logic.
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>>223919063
>now all of china knows you're here.
>perfect.

>the imperial army is waiting for us in the mountain pass. Should we go around them?
>Nah, let's go through them.

>I lost my whole army. Oh well, I'll take the capital with 5 guys.

What a gigachad of a bad guy
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>>223920995
To be fair, she kinda did come onto him first >>223920993
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>>223919063
>shan yu
>yuan shu
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>>223918338
It came with the best villain song so its fine.
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>>223920566
>a powerful man who will hunt you down and rape you and give you orgasms that you can later deny eve wanting

you wonder why women are into this?
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>>223919520
Polish commies kind of forcefully assimilated them. They forced them to live in houses and work real jobs, especially in smaller communities. Gypsy music entered mainstream. South euro commies completely failed at this and we got flooded with new feral gypsy wave after 1989. This corrupted the entire community.
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>>223918338
>Sniffing her hair
He never had a chance
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>>223921402
>spilling seed is sinful
>obsessively lusting after a woman to the point of your own madness and wanting to kill or rape her is A-OKAY! (All due to your dick not being able to get any post nut clarity)
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Bros, what’s the deal with brown girls?
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>>223923646
No idea, perhaps if enough are posted we can figure it out.
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>>223923733
Her slave Leia cosplay was amazing
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>>223918520

Why is Quasi white if his parents were gypsies?
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So, do we agree that either Quasimodo was schizophrenic or made up imaginary friends due his loneliness and the gargoyles didn't exist? The gargoyles never talk with anyone but him.
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>>223918508
>You know what they say about girls with thick eyebrows

Butt hair?
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>>223923800
The gargoyles were just that, gargoyle statues. You could interpret it as him being lonely enough to start talking to the furniture, or accept what's shown and that there's some kind of magic involved. I think most kids just go with the latter and don't think too much about it.
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>>223919299
Yeah. Ratigan is really fun, until the end and becomes almost a horror villain. Kino.
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>>223923646
>>223923733
based
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>>223922122
because it explains their adult decisions.
their bodies are adult but their brains are still teen
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>>223918338
immersion level: 100%
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>>223925851

Ratigan was as charming as he was terrifying

>That death chime bell that summons a gigantic, swollen and obese cat, that has killed and eaten countless people who have upset Ratigan

That battle at the end where Ratigan is so mad, his gentlemanly demeanor has fallen away utterly and he's gone nuclear, beating and scratching the absolute shit out of Basil, was definitely horror. Did any protagonist in a Disney movie ever get such a savage thrashing? It was completely one-sided, Basil had no chance to win. All he could do was hopelessly crawl away from Ratigan as he's getting torn apart

https://youtu.be/DO7ErH_fQPM?si=fiRggCuoQjGeQ8cx
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>Disney kikes push pro gypsy propaganda
>everyone sides with the villain
swing and a miss
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>>223918338
>Tradtiional Disney-era villains (Walt was still alive): Wicked witches, scammers, kidnappers, swindlers, corrupt authority, monsters, thieves
>Traditional Disney-era heroes: Religious figures, proper authority (rightful kings), masculine leaders, underappreciated laborers, knights in shining armor
>Renaissance Disney-era "villains" (Walt had died): Religious institutions, any kind of leader, masculine figures, women trying to behave like women, European men
>Reinassance Disney-era "heroes": Furfags, men with AIDS, tribals, women acting like men, men acting like women, thieves, swindlers, witches
Gee I can almost notice a pattern here
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>Frollo
>starts out as a volcel and becomes an incel
>Quasimodo
>starts out as an incel and becomes a volcel
POTTERY
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>>223927785
Quasimodo doesn't become a volcel, he was always an incel, he never had a chance in the world for anyone
The knight is also a fucking retard cause Esmeralda is a whore who probably has AIDS or something from fucking a trillion men
Moral of the story, both are cucks and whores are awful
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>>223927719

Governor John Ratcliffe did nothing wrong

>John: "What can you expect, from filthy little heathens? Their whole disgusting race is like a curse! Their skin's a hellish red! They're only good when dead. They've vermin as I said and worse! They're savages, savages! Barely even human! Savages, savages! Drive them from our shore! They're not like you and me, which means they must be evil! We must sound the drums of war! They're savages, savages! Dirty red-skin devils! Now we sound the drums of war!"
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>>223919009
I like Scar better but maybe it's because I see myself in Frollo and that scares me.
KYRIEEEEEE ELEISOOOOOOOOOON
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>>223927945
Friendly reminder real life Ratcliffe was an innocent English settlement leader who got baited into a trap when trying to peacefully barter with the local natives, who scalped his skin off and let him bleed to death while raping and murdering the rest of the settlers
If Walt had directed Pocahontas, it would have shown the evil nature of the native Americans that every European that touched ground there, from the Spaniards to the Portuguese to the British, saw with their very eyes
Instead it's about le poor natives who are attacked by a fat idiot because they're natives o algo, totally not propaganda goyim
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>>223927873

I mean, most people casually had sex with tavern wenches, bathhouse workers, laundresses, and all sort of women seeking covering seasonal shortages. Actual full-time prostitutes were a minority and it was a relatively short-lived profession. it was not uncommon for people to be spreading that stuff around completely unmonitored.
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>>223927719
>Furfags
Beast isn't a furry though
>men with AIDS
who?
>tribals
Tarzan is a brit though
>women acting like men
blame the chinks for that
>men acting like women
who?
>thieves, swindlers
blame the arabs for that
>witches
what fucking witch, Pocahontas?
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>>223921402
murdering people because a foid won't fuck you is also a sin
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>>223923800
I like to headcanon that quasimodo is schizo, but they actively take part in the final battle. Unless the attacks from the gargoyles were also imagined while quasimodo was off screen and in his own life threatening situations.
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>>223928065
>Beast isn't a furry though
He represents them though
>who?
Music composer for Beauty and the Beast confirmed the entire story is basically a thinly veiled metaphor for faggots with AIDS, the Beast has AIDS and is hated by society heckin' unfairly and Gaston represents le oppressive patriarchy o algo
>Tarzan is a brit though
I meant the natives from Pocahontas who are portrayed as better than the settlers though Tarzan does something similar with Clayton being fucked because he represents western society while Tarzan represents western man degrading himself to a tribal and he does "the good thing"
>blame the chinks for that
Disney still adapted it
>who?
Mulan's friends who literally crossdress? The dude at the end who behaves like a woman and has to BEG her while the Emperor licks her cunt for being so heckin' brave and stunning?
>blame the arabs for that
Disney adapted it
>what fucking witch, Pocahontas?
My only mistake cause I thought Wicked was from before the 2000s, still you are right Pocahontas promotes paganism
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>>223927664
Baloo from The Jungle Book got his shit pushed in pretty good by Shere Khan. Definitely a contender.
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>>223928223

>Music composer for Beauty and the Beast confirmed the entire story is basically a thinly veiled metaphor for faggots with AIDS, the Beast has AIDS

...What?
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>>223927664
>That battle at the end where Ratigan is so mad, his gentlemanly demeanor has fallen away utterly and he's gone nuclear, beating and scratching the absolute shit out of Basil, was definitely horror.
I fucking love when Ratigan goes completely feral in the climax, the "intellectual gentleman" persona is completely ripped away and he fully embraces being the vermin he actually is.
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>>223928179

Quasimodo creating a bunch of tulpa due to sheer loneliness is a much better story element than what we actually got. To sell it, Quasimodo would have to be talking to them, then Frollo walks in, Quasimodo turns around and the gargoyles are sitting off somewhere on the balcony where they should be. Not standing nearby where he was talking to them a moment ago as they hop around, otherwise the audience would just assume they pulled an Iago and are feigning being completely sentient and self-aware, when other people are around. Quasimodo would have to be fully imagining they are moving around and following him, but the audience sees that the gargoyles don't actually ever leave their roosts

Fuck... like Quasimodo isn't sad enough as it is. Now he actually and truly has no friends at all

>Quasimodo: "I knew I'd never know... that warm and loving glow, though I may wish with all my might. No face as hideous as my face... was ever meant for Heaven's light..."
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>>223928726
https://observer.com/2017/03/beauty-and-the-beast-metaphor-aids-howard-ashman/
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>>223919584
Indians are all darkies you fucking retarded Jeet.
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>>223927705
What are you, gay?
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>>223929000
>To sell it, Quasimodo would have to be talking to them, then Frollo walks in, Quasimodo turns around and the gargoyles are sitting off somewhere on the balcony where they should be
Anon that happens in the movie.
But admittedly the movie does spoil it by having the gargoyles take part in the final battle, and the one scene where they jumpscare the pet goat
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The movie does its best to make Frollo into the villain, but even then, I still feel bad for him. He pined so hard for this brown beauty that he was willing to betray everything he believed in to have her, even if it damned his soul in the process. He was willing to risk it all, going full force "I can save her!" and turn Esmerelda into a proper Christian waifu
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>>223929030
>>223928726
Ya I don't buy it. This is self insert bullshit.
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>>223918520
I liked that this story didn't pull its punches. Incredibly redpilled for a Disney flick.
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>>223918338
>Be elitist and religiously pious political leader
>view the common man as debased, having low impulse control, and therefor prone to sinning thus damning their souls to hell
>they need him to protect them from themselves because unlike them he isnt easily tempted
>has to go to some peasant festival every year for obligatory political reasons of showing your face even though this festival stands for everything he stands against and promotes drunkenness, gluttony, and lust
>while here see a teen gypsy girl dancing around
>for the first time in his life, Frollo is tempted by the sin of lust by looking on this girl
>tries to ignore it because addressing it would call into question his own pious elitism which is the basis of his authority in his own mind
>no matter what, cant get this girl out of his mind
>realizes that if even he can be tempted by this girl, then the common plebs stand no chance
>descends into madness obsessing over her realizes he must either marry this woman thus moving his lustful sin into safe marital sex
>if not, she must be executed because she stands to openly tempt others and no other man can control her sexuality in the way that he can
Frollo is the most well written and fully realized Disney Villain. I realize the character is originally from Victor Hugo but the cartoon is so different from the story that I consider this a new character. The Hunchback of Notre Dame is the high water mark of Disney animation and I think their best one ever made. Its amazing how adult and mature this material is for a children's cartoon and its much more compelling than generic slop like Moana which stands for absolutely nothing other than a made by committee politically safe ethnic insecurity fest.
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Heaven's Light is so much nicer without the gargoyles killing the mood with their silly antics. No doubt they were put in there deliberately to try to tone down the feels of the song, but it works so much better with the emotional weight of Quasimodo's sorrow, being on full display

https://youtu.be/0BUoG0lzzvQ?si=KsowA4NfxTzwaSzY
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>>223928223
>still you are right Pocahontas promotes paganism
So? Freedom of Religion.
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>>223925851
>becomes almost a horror villain
I'm sure that was the intention. He was voiced by Vincent Price.
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>tfw no buxom and playful brownie waifu

Any Disney gals even come close to Esmerelda in sheer desirability? Enough that even a pious holy man would risk the flames of Sheol to claim her for himself?
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>>223918338
Portraying gypsies as these exotic beauties was the biggest gaslighting campaign Disney ever committed to. There's a multitude of very good reasons they were persecuted wherever they went, chief among them being that they're hideous inbred pajeets.
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>>223918520
Somebody post the webm
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>>223918338
why didnt he just rape her
that greedy gypsy bitch prob would have let him rent her anyway
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>>223922122
Who said I was seething
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>>223930343

Maybe so, but what are they going to do, make Esmerelda a 5/10 Plain Jane? Make her ugly? She's supposed to be the object of multiple men's desire. She has to at least be convincingly pretty for that to work
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>>223923598
It's impressive he can still get it up so vigorously at that age

>>223923800
Frollo saw a gargoyle roar at him before he died so idk
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>>223930556
Well I don't know if Quasimodo was based on a true story or an old folk tale or whatever but couldn't they just use another tribe besides gypsies who could realistically attract a human male
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>>223918520
why is this movie so godamn blackpilled
lul
it makes you consider suicide very seriously
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>>223919137
What the fuck?
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>>223928065
>>men acting like women
>who?

Qui?
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>>223923598
>>obsessively lusting after a woman to the point of your own madness and wanting to kill or rape her is A-OKAY!
the idea is to transform that energy into something good, within reason. This is what drives humans to do better. If you take the easy way out (fapping), you are not regulating yourself, you are getting rid of that drive so you don't have to think or do anything.
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>>223930700

In the original The Hunchback of Notre-Dame book, which this movie is an adaption of, Esmerelda is a French girl who was raised by gypsies. They could have went with that for the Disney adaption, but either they found that story element too complicated to realistically work into the run time of the movie, or they didn't think it was relevant, or they just wanted an excuse to draw brown girls which they couldn't have done if she was ethnically French. Maybe a little of column A and a little of column B
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>>223921110
Would not, she ugly desu
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>>223920566
Yeah Frollo has a fair amount of fangirls, conflicted villain types really appeal to women plus he has a nice voice courtesy of Tony Jay
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>>223927705
the rise of joyless, spiteful antisemitism is further proof of the browning of the internet
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>>223928792

Ratigan spent nearly the entire movie bristling when somebody had the audacity to call him a rat, something he himself found repulsive, only for him to werewolf and go wild on Basil in his fury. And the audience gets to see the size and strength difference between a civilized mouse and a monstrous rat. The Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde aspects of Ratigan for all to see
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>>223919063
this nigga has yellow eyes, he had no choice but to be a villain
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>>223931220

Not a good thread to stick your nose in, Moshe. Move along
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>>223931402
Getting mad just proves you're trapped in mental chains of inferiority. You lost before you were even born.
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>>223919908
He kills Phoebus and pins the blame on Esmeralda, naturally she is scared of that.
And then obligatory annual rioting happens.
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>>223919385
>>223919775
>>223920986
the gypsy women you see around white cities, who go around stealing from non gypsies and throw babies at them to leave their pocket exposed, definitely DO NOT look like that. They tend to be quite ugly and unfuckable. But that's why they're sent out on these missions, they're essentially expendable roaches.
However, the ones that stay WITHIN the confines of gypsy villages/encampments, are a prize in of in itself... Many of them can make a running for hottest woman on the planet. Of course the gypsy ring leaders aren't going to show them off to filthy non gypsies, they keep them for themselves
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>>223931440

Moshe, please, All you've won is a free trip to Sheol when your end comes. Take it, it's yours
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Imagine getting obsessed over a brown girl lmao
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>>223918338
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>>223931790
Yeah imagine wanting this.
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>>223932115
is that xochitlcoatl?
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>>223931560
No, this isn't the 1880s you can look up plenty of video of Roma camps, there aren't secret harams of hot gypsy chicks.
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>>223918338
Because of this thread I rewatched this film. It feels very dense and Frollo rocks as an antagonist. It is still my favorite.

Genuinely weird how they placed A Guy Like You in the middle of Paris burning under frollos's ethnic cleanse. Disney always has a "fun" song shoehorned in but whyd it have to be within the subtext of "you are harboring gypsies under your floorboards are you not?" I think it and heaven's light could have been swapped.
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>>223932807
>Genuinely weird how they placed A Guy Like You in the middle of Paris burning under frollos's ethnic cleanse. Disney always has a "fun" song shoehorned in but whyd it have to be within the subtext of "you are harboring gypsies under your floorboards are you not?" I think it and heaven's light could have been swapped.
I kind of hate the gargoyles in this like I hate the cute animal sidekicks in Pocahontas, they're in direct contrast to the general tone of the films and don't compliment it in an organic storytelling way like Timon and Pumbaa do in The Lion King.
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>>223932807
>>223932891

Probably due to a long-lasting wariness from The Black Cauldron, Disney began to feel uncomfortable with dark themes in movies for children. Disney would still make dark themes, but always felt the need to have a pressure release valve somewhere. Either in the form of little annoying friends, or an inappropriately cheery song. And over time, it just kept getting worse, with them being injected into places that seriously damaged the tone of the storytelling. Disney couldn't just leave the stories alone and let them be what they have to be, in order to preserve the gravity of the more serious situations
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>>223927719
Ehh 6/10 bait, too many vague stretches

>>223927873
Whatever you do, don't look up the sequel
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>>223933292
>The Black Cauldron
Whenever I want to give this a rewatch I remember that weird pig-dog thing with the high pitched voice and am reminded why it was so bad. But there is something to what you're saying, its like it doesn't know who its for.
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>>223922106
Fucking Columbo over here
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>>223919137
I don't understand how retardation works. She looks very similar to people with down syndrome, yet she doesn't have it. If the traits aren't actually a sign if the illness, then what causes the illness?
As in, if those traits are necessary to possess down syndrome, what is?

Could someone who looks like Toby have down syndrome?
All in all, I am confused
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>>223931364
not just that, but yellow eyes with jet black borders
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>>223918338
Literally me
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>>223921819
>folding a guy in half and then casting crucio
>SHUT UP PUSSY THEY USED TO LAUGH AT ME
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>>223919727
i’m here to call you a fag
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>>223929941
This is true . I didn't fully appreciate the song until I listened to the soundtrack version.
There's also the fact that it gets overshadowed by Hellfire almost immediately.
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>>223930516
I would still hatefuck this purple goblin
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>>223918821
based cunny judge
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>>223929941
Gargoyles were a very lame attempt to keep it a kids movie despite the subject material. Imagine how much cooler Frollo's death with the Gargoyle head coming to life would be if it was the only moment like that in the movie.
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>>223921110
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>>223930810
three beers and the gut disperses
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>>223932891
>like timon and pumba
They are the same exact problem, and their stupid fucking song about eating bugs and farting occupies the part of the movie where Simba is supposed to have literally any growth as a character.
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>>223920387
Based and same, only I've accepted I'll die alone so all I have is porn
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>>223918470
>>223920993
Is this what really what gypsies really look like? I might need to take me a trip down to gypsy land.
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>>223919584
Where did the darkies come from in ancient India?
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>>223918338
What else was he supposed to do?
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>>223931351
If there's one flaw of this movie, Basil doesn't outwit or defeat Ratigan in the end, he just survived by sheer luck
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>>223934706
No, they usually look like babushkas and the granny from coco, they also want to borrow your phone to "call their family" but actually open your cash app and venmo to send themselves money
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>>223931790
>pit hair
Fake
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>>223918338
Sucks you never actually fight him in Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance. In Riku's story he summons the Wargoyle then falls off the roof like an idiot, in Sora's story he gets the smiting from God he got in the movie.
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>>223918470
Someone needs to switch their faces.
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>>223919584
>Historyfags are all libshits that vote for mass immigration from third world shitholes into western countries
Meanwhile the right is importing millions of Indians because Elon Musk told them to.
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>>223934806
I'm pretty sure I saw that at some point
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>>223919908
This, bad guys are actually the good guys and good guys are evil.
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>>223921110
Me on the right.
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>>223934664

>their stupid fucking song about eating bugs and farting occupies the part of the movie where Simba is supposed to have literally any growth as a character.

Timon and Pumba really disappointed me. The Lion King is a fantastic film, but all the very raunchy and bottom of the barrel humor murders so much of the movie's sad tone about an exiled prince who lost his way and dragged down its potential for greatness. As far as Simba's growth goes, the only part I really truly enjoyed is when he spoke with the old baboon sage. Very touching scene, especially for guys who no longer have their own father in their life

>Simba: "You knew my father?"
>Rafiki: "Correction: I know your father."
>Simba: "I hate to tell you this, but... he died... a long time ago."
>Rafiki: "Nope! Wrong again! Hah hah hah! He's alive! And I'll show him to you. You follow old Rafiki, he knows the way, come on! Don't dawdle, hurry up! ...Stop! Shhh... Look down d'ah.
>Simba: "That's not my father... That's just my reflection."
>Rafiki: "Nouuh! Look... ha'da... You see? He lives in you."

https://youtu.be/mY1-EVfnsRc?si=61W50C8fDR3lNbSh
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>>223935106
The kids aren't going to be enraptured by Hamlet, Timon/Rosencrantz and Pumbaa/Guildenstern are there for the kids to laugh at while the adults enjoy the mature stuff.
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>>223918470
Brown girls are made for being locked up n tortured
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>>223932738
>>223931560
I want to believe that I can liberate(kidnap) myself a child from a gypsy camp that will fall in love with me and become my beautiful wife.

I remember an anon on /gif/ talking about he had oyakodan with decent looking gypsy prostitutes. The daughter couldn't pretend to be into it.
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>>223934709
The southern part of India, they're called dravidians I think. Ancient Indian civ was located in the NW part of India. The more north and west you move the whiter usually things get.

>>223934879
>because Elon Musk told them to
Millions of Indians were already being imported because of FAANG and other tech industries. Musk wants to fix the visa program, so that we're actually getting doctors and engineers instead of retards from degree mills.

Even then a lot of people on the right want jobs to go to Americans first. So they want to penalize companies that lie about not being able to hire Americans and to increase the cost of H1B visas to stop them from hiring people for lower wages altogether.

Historyfags and are still retarded fags that can only hope to get a job teaching fagademia to pay for their faggot degree student loans.
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>>223935457
>So they want to penalize companies that lie about not being able to hire Americans
Why did they never do that in the six years they've been in power? ICE sweeping through towns and locking up everyone brown does nothing about the companies and businesses who will just refill those spots the next day. Not a single one of them has ever been punished for using immigrants.
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>>223935585
>Why did they never do that in the six years they've been in power?

They have dude. They've been cutting way back on H1B visas, you just haven't been paying attention.
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>>223935585
>Why did they never do that in the six years they've been in power?
You need a shit ton of whistleblowers and people willing to violate NDAs. IE HR-faghags that are diehard libtards.

You've seen the shit going on with medicaid/medicare fraud going on with hospices and those daycare centers? Brought to our attention by whistleblowers. The govt is mildly retarded even with all the spying they do, they still need someone to point obvious shit out to them. The govt can't even track where all the money goes(by design).

For NDAs there's been a recent large layoff of gamedevs at Bioware. Not sure if true, but this faggot said they look at your social media before hiring.
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>>223935686
And that's having zero affect from what I'm seeing. Also are Americans going to actually work the jobs those illegals do? Are they going to work in farms, slaughterhouses, fast food, washing dishes, and all the other jobs that are boring, dangerous, and require lots of energy and effort?
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>>223935755
>slaughterhouses
Just reminded me Smithfield Foods fired a shit ton of people and hired Somalians that Obama brought in and there was a big enough dip in quality I noticed and had to look up why.

Every meat product I bought from them was already spoiled covered in a thin film of slime well before the expiration date. Even black people were complaining online their chitlins literally had shit still in them.


Also not the anon you're replying to but I unironically am getting paid $21/hr washing dishes and going to school for industrial engineering because manufacturing jobs are actually coming back to my area around Houston.
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>>223935864
$21 doesn't seem like much for Houston. Probably got the same buying power as $14 where i live in bumfuck egypt
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>>223918520
it just keeps going
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>>223935585
>Why did they never do that in the six years they've been in power?
Same shit with the Learing Center in Minnesota and Epstein.
The corruption is out in the open. The government isn't willing to do anything about certain things unless they gain attention. If pressed they make the bare minimum effort to solve these issues.
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is this the most redpilled Disney movie? its really dark
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>>223936912

>If you're ugly, don't even bother. You are fucked and will always lose, no matter how kind you are

The movie didn't try to sugarcoat it, just went right for the throat
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>>223936586
>you were right count frollo, lets btfo all the foids now
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>>223937474
>You are fucked and will always lose, no matter how kind you are
Nah it's more like your best hope in life is for chad and stacy to treat you like their pet dog
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>>223932115

>That dude watching and pouting in the corner

I see gifs from this movie from time to time, but never bothered to watch it. How's it hold up?
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>>223932891
>>223934664
Fixer upper in Frozen serves no purpose either, just totally out of tone with the rest of the songs having proper themes and shit
I suspect that one might have been left over from an early draft or something though.
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>>223919116
he was fucking the gargoyles for sure
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>>223919640
huh this is pretty mature for a kid's movie, I just remember the cool fire stuff
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>>223938319
Yeah, it's a fun little fish out of water story.
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"Yeah sure bro I'll pay for your love hotell suite if I can stay in the closet and confirm the girl you're about to fuck is my waifu. Also I wont kill you today but I will kill you tommorrow, next week, next yea and every year after that."

Why did Disney cut this scene and line from Frollo in the book?
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>>223938981
The book is so brutally accurate it's not even funny
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>>223939080
You tell me about it buddy, I read it earlier this year and 50 pages in realized "shit this book I 'picked a classic randomly' has it's plot all about a guy that can't get over a girl. And last month I wanted things to get serious and she did not."

Frollo is just like me frfr, or atleast he was untill he offered to pay for the love hotell and the POV cuckcloset chapter. This world will just shit on you if do not respect and stand for yourself.
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>>223934699
nah uh fuck that shit, all you need to get laid is to play the numbers game
literally shoot your shot, be sane and bases enough to power through the awkwardness (those bitch make the interaction awkward when they are not interested)
rinse and repeat
i approach over 1200 girls per year and i fuck a few teens every once in a while (most girls i fuck are about my age)
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>>223939378
>i approach over 1200 girls per year and i fuck a few teens every once in a while
You sick fuck
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>>223918338
He's French, he wanted an excuse to burn Paris. But yeah he wanted to bleach a gypsy. This guy is depraved
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The older I get the more I side with disney villains.
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>>223919088
Jafar?
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>>223918338
I was at the disneylanf halloween evrmt and they have a hauntes trail with a section for him and its a bunch of candles, incense, organ music and a voice saying guilty over and over. Very Catholic lol
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>>223918338
>burning Paris le bad
lol
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>>223918338
>>223918821
>>223919908
Also in the book she wasn't a brown gypsy, she was a blue eyed white French girl.

She was kidnapped by the gypsies as a newborn baby who replaced her with the deformed Quasimodo who was a gypsy.

I don't know why Disney changed it
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>>223940620
Brown Esmeralda is better anyway
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>>223940620

>I don't know why Disney changed the real depiction of gypsies and replaced it with high faluting fantasies of their inherent good and beauty

kek
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>>223940620
>I don't know why Disney changed it

Who knows why.
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>Brown Esmeralda is better anyway
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>>223918338
a man who is not loved by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth
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>>223918338
>whole theme of the movie is to not judge people
>uses the gypsies as an example in the film
>literally have them sing a song about them being thieves, swindlers and cutthroats
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>>223940868

She's better because she isn't even real. Her phenotype doesn't exist. It's like taking an Italian girl and increasing the smoke by 10.
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HELA SVERIGE SKALL SE UT SOME ROSENGÅRD
HELA SVERIGE SKALL SE UT SOME ROSENGÅRD
HELA SVERIGE SKALL SE UT SOME ROSENGÅRD
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>She's better because she isn't even real. Her phenotype doesn't exist. It's like taking an Italian girl and increasing the smoke by 10.
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>>223919116
Yes, but his love was also pure, he was not driven by hate of women and didn't care that Esmerelda rejected him, he just loved her and wanted her to be happy, which is why he chimped out and murdered Frollo when he saw him laughing at Esmerelda's execution. And then he went her corpse and died of starvation clinging to it so that their skeletons fused over the ages.
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>>223941498
>he was not driven by hate of women and didn't care that Esmerelda rejected him, he just loved her and wanted her to be happy
Ah a woman's dream beta male, the poor simp who they never reciprocate his love but think his loyalty is endearing.
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>Here is a riddle to guess if you can from the Bells of Notre Dame:
>Who is the monster - and who is the man? Sing the Bells of Notre Dame

>the live stage show where during this moment, Quasimodo's unknown mother walks onto the stage and smears black tar and paint over Quasimodo's face with her hand, to signify his inherited birth deformities, and then at this moment Quasimodo's actor who had been walking normally until that point looks out into the crowd innocently and then turns and suddenly grows hunched and limps away into the darkness
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>>223941526
Applying these red pill memes to an epic work of fiction like Notre Dame de Paris is a little disgusting if I may say so
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>>223941529
https://youtu.be/6mdWHg0a7LE?t=613
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>>223918338
/pol/ the character
>violently racist
>still lusts after brown women
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>>223934664
>>223935106
>the part of the movie where Simba is supposed to have literally any growth as a character
That's not true at all, Simba is a layabout with no responibily after the song, which is exactly what the song is about, it fits perfectly. It's only when Nala finds him that he starts to grow up.
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kino thread

got my own gypsy story
>be me
>be travelling around central europe
>gypsy whore propostions me outside a train station
>turn her down
>she keeps trying
>offers to let me go raw and knock her up for 3000 euros
>almost took the deal
God damn I still jerk off to that memory.
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>>223941786
That's repulsive. You're no better than a base animal ruled by its instincts. Religion was created to manage creatures like you.
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>>223941989
He declined her bro. He won.
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>>223941989
Did you notice that he resisted sin in the end?
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>>223919137
>Ice Spice
Lmao what? Is that her actual name. Who tf is this
And why the fuck would anyone go to their ex wifes wedding
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>>223942094
>And why the fuck would anyone go to their ex wifes wedding
If your bull offers to pay off your gigantic gambling debts.
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>>223941545
Eh, feminists applying their disgusting worldviews to epic works of fiction is several different university specialties that they get degrees for, so it's only fair.
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>>223921152
That a lie
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>>223930747
Ah yes, a disguise to infiltrate the enemy and take them by surprise means they're trannies. You people are obsessed.
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>>223921418
Thinking about an action is not commiting the act otherwise everytime I got mad at someone that cut me off would be a sin
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What is a city compared to delicious brown pussy?
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>>223918470
>>223918338
Fun fact, women made A LOT of fanfics with Frollo x Esmeralda
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>>223918508
It’s actually true. I met this Turkish girl in Italy once who had the thickest eyebrows. I asked if the meme was true and when we got back to her place she began to take her clothes off and pulled out a dick that was bigger than mine.
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>>223919289
>>223934706
No they don't, maybe some in the past when they actually needed to survive, but now they live on welfare thanks to the govt (in exchange of drugs and minors ) so all the women do all day is eat, eat and eat.
They are the fattest women on earth
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>>223920566
It's always hilarious how (((they))) are so obsessed with the interracial propaganda with the most boring and ugly looking nog characters when women like the edgy white guy or asian guy at most.
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>>223941498
Eww imagine dying and some stalker freak just holds your body like that. Poor girl already went thru enuff
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>>223918520
The amount of fat deformed retards sympathizing with Quasimodo is concerning.
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>>223937474
>The movie didn't try to sugarcoat it, just went right for the throat

Would you fuck this bitch, when she grows up?
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>>223918520
This always traumatized me as a kid because I knew Esmeralda only chose the other guy for being hot, she wouldn't have even looking at the other guy if quasimodo was hot
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>>223936912
>>223937562
>>223937600
ya' know, Quasimodo predicted thish
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>>223944627
It's better not to lie to kids
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>>223919009
>>223919063
>Is he the best Disney villain?
You’re lookin’ at em, Miss Turner
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>>223944697
Unless Judaism is involved, then you tell them they are the chosen people.
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>>223944700
It is impressive how fucking great he was as that villain.
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>>223939943
>Jafar
Dark Zesty
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>>223944700
Pretty impressive for him to be the best part of 5 films when his presence was only justified in the 1st one.
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>>223944847
I also loved him in House on Haunted Hill.
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>>223922122
Why are you so defensive lol calm down foid don’t discharge in your thong
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>>223927664
>Rat
>his name is Ratigan
lmao who tf writes ts
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>>223942228
No good opinion has ever begun with "eh".
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>>223918338
I've never watched this. Are the gargoyles actually animated by some sort of magic, or are they just Quasimodo's imaginary friends?
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>>223918338
Understandable.
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>>223944622
i dont know if I would get hard enough to put pee pee into vagoo.
but a blowjob would be too funny with that face looking at you.
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>>223936586
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>223922739
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>>223932738
Yeah there are ton of on youtube of their weddings. True that some young gypsy chicks look hot as fuck with anime-tier bodies but they'll balloon like latinas after they pass 25.
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>>223932891
Sidekicks are there to sell more merch.
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>>223945070
Hideo Kojima.
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All of this thread because of a youtube video.
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>>223940065
>go to Paris
>be surprised when you see Ratatouille and his family
Retard
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>>223934722
How did they get away with this?
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>>223945289
Some people are born light speed ugly. It only makes sense that Quasimodo didn't get the girl in the end. As harsh as that is, it's real.
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>>223944648
Never had the makings of a varsity halfback of Notre Dame.
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>>223944622
>Would you fuck this deformed child when she grows up
What the fuck is wrong with you, nigger?
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>>223945620
What video?
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>>223945652
>light speed ugly
Is this some new phrasing you picked up in a discord/gaming lobby or something? The fuck does that even mean, just stop.
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>>223946019
Since you're too fucking stupid to read the thread
>If you're ugly, don't even bother. You are fucked and will always lose, no matter how kind you are
>The movie didn't try to sugarcoat it, just went right for the throat
That girl is going to want to fuck when she gets older. That's natural. Will a guy want to? Should Esmeralda want to fuck Quasimodo when he looks like that? Same same.
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>>223946339
You could have picked a deformed adult, freak



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