Like Superman (2025) and Supergirl before it Gunn's DC cannot connect with markets outside of the US even when they do okay domestically
nobody knows what the fuck is clayface
>>223923571This. I thought it was some villain from Dick Tracy
Isn't there a black female love interest? China ain't having that
I saw the trailer at my kinoplex, there was complete silence after and I heard someone say "what the fuck was that"? Is Clayface popular in the US? Literally never heard of it in Europe.
Why do murrcans love capeshit so much?
Guardians did great overseas.
>>223923507Who the fuck is clayface, why does he look so ugly, and why should I care?
More like Gayface*sips*
It had a good preview. I can't watch more than a preview anyway.
>>223923507Even a disaster movie like Street fighter did netter
>>223923507Why don't they introduce these unknown villains first in Batman movies and then when people knows them and if people like them, then you make a solo movie about them. It makes no sense what they are doing.
They need to give it a rest already. The DC movie brand is dead. You lost me and many others with Batman vs Superman. You can do a million reboots but unless your reboot films are 11/10 cinematic masterpieces then no one is interested. If I see DC I immediate think it’s low quality garbage. Go make some decent cartoons and comics. That’s where capeslop belongs. Not in cinemas and not in vidya.
>>223923507>white protagonist >flops>go woke go bro-ACK!!
>>223923507>Batman has gotten one movie>Battinson aged out of “young batman” before getting a sequel>literally who villain gets standaloneFucks sake
>>223923757this is disabled representation flopping
>>223923507You would have to be retarded to greenlight this.It was destinied to flop.>>223923507
>>223923631You know who Dick Tracy is but you didn't watch Batman TAS growing up? Are you British or something?
>>223923740They're trying to copy marvel now. Marvel started out with lesser known heroes like Iron Man and build them all up to be the Avengers. DC tried to skip ahead and start out with Justice League despite nobody knowing any hero outside of Supes, Bats and Flash. They're trying it the other way around now. But with villains, because they probably thought the success of Joker was because he was a character "origin" story.
>>223923680Guardians was a decade ago, when capeshit was exploding in popularity.
>>223923901nta but same here
>>223923507They did the "Make a Spider-Man villain movie without Spider-Man" but for DC and thought it would work for some reason
No one even wants to see the Joker anymore after what they did to him why the fuck did they think Clayface was gonna be a hit
>>223923571>I only see movies about characters that I knowkek
>>223923942When it comes to capeshit, absolutely
>"Le black woman super science lady"lol.Lmao even.Other than that seemed ok, not great, not bad, just, yeah it was a movie.
>>223923942that's basically the whole appeal of comic book movies. seeing characters that you know in movie
>>223923946Movies should work on their own. Most people only really know Spiderman and Batman Pretending to be stupid "Who iz ClAyFaCe" is a dumb take and you should feel embarrassed by posting it
>>223923904At first Gunn wanted these c-tier shits and to go slower, the slate is now > Superman2 >Batman >Wonder Woman > Swamp Thing > Teen Titans > Bane and Deathstroke and for animation the Robins movie > Dynamic Duo and Mr MiracleAfter this I suppose he'll do JL.>>223923932The Substance.
>>223923750lol. lmao.
>>223923507When I saw this on Friday the crowd actually clapped at the end. It was strange.
>>223923507Clayfeces
>>223924186Those numbers stay the same if the positions are swapped. DC was boosted by the popularity of the MCU and the appetite for comic book movies. Not because snyder was making good films
DC is dead. Bury it.
>>223923507It's not about the money, it's about restoring the brand
>>223925213You will never have the DC property, disneyshill intern
>>223923997>Pretending to be stupid "Who iz ClAyFaCe"i have literally no idea who that is
>>223923649>Isn't there a black female love interest? China ain't having thatBitch, "I" ain't having that. That's why I'm not seeing.
>>223923507So how many more films before the gunnverse is canned? And what comes next?
>>223923507When is it gonna dawn on these guys that audiences have moved on from superhero slop? It only still sells if it's Spidey or Batman.
>>223925213Why are Snyder movies so quotable?
>>223923507If the performance of these recent DC movies carried Snyder's name you'd never hear the end of it. There'd be people literally rolling out the guillotine in front of the WB Studios lot
>>223923658hes a batman villain you knob headed bell end wankah
>>223923507The movie will make everything back because it only cost 30 million to make. As capeshit films should
>>22392675244 million
>>223923956they needed to hire an older lady. this black scientist looked like a college student. is not even about bring black. it was about her looking like a TikTok dancer
>>223923507>>223923571>Is that a blonde haired, blue eyed white man that's successful? REEE! I CAN'T ENJOY MY CAPESHIT SLOP AS THE BROWNOID THAT I AM!You know this to be true.
>>223923507>giving a z-grade Batman villain his own movie before Batman is even introduced into Gunn's DCEUThat seems pretty fucking dumb.
>>223923507It was great, the entire club sequence was phenomenal And the whole thing was his fault, Corey told him which is kind of the point. Like, getting cut up is messed up but hes not a random victim >>223923649>Isn't there a black female love interestNo. Well, interest as in he's interested in her but he's clearly obsessed with her because she doctored him and also she's engaged to somebody else. Pursuing her is what takes him beyond righteous vengeance to monster>>223923571>>223923658>>223923683What the fuck? Its just a movie, you don't need to and shouldn't know anything about it going in, its not an anime finale movie>rising star actor gets horrifically mutilated >nanobots fix him and give him amazing abilities Does this premise sound good?
>>223926773Already made 43M
>>223923507>Clayface's monster form only has 50 seconds of screentime at the end For what purpose?
>>223924151how are they gonna explain bats and woman of wonders absence in multiple superman movies?
>>223923658In my American theatre people were also confused. No one knows him here except 35-40 year olds who watched the animated series as a kid
I liked Clayface because it had nothing to do with the DC universe or even Batman besides the mention of Gotham City. It's a nice 1h45m creature-feature for Halloween. Some fun popcorn jumpscares for the zoomies.
>>223923507DC faggots really make me cringe
>>223923507Socrates says: when empire built of clay, never show them clay face.>>223924212Its actually good guys but people just have decided like Coke vs Pepsi only one drink should exist okay only one comic book franchise should exist.
>>223923507I'm a euro and I know who he is because of the Arkham games. But I stopped going to the movies when all my friends moved away, going solo sucks.
>>223927095
was always the batman cartoon episodes i was least interested in. despite i like him making whatever weapon hands he needs
>>223924186Needs to be updated with supagril
>>223927210I think this was their intent, just make it a standalone horror movie that has nothing to do with Batman and release it for Halloween. Not the worst idea but if you do that you're basically forfeiting the built-in audience you'd get by involving Batman and hoping the indie horror crowd latches on instead. It's a gamble that didn't work
>>223925881Because he's a comic book fan who understands comic book fans. He knows what a line drop is and how to make a kino visual. He knows that Batman during the daytime is cringe.
>>223926752>The movie will make everything back because it only cost 30 million to makeIt has to make 2.5x its budget just to break even. Theaters take half of the box office and 75% overseas. Marketing costs also aren't part of the production budget so that needs to be accounted for. Go over the break even number and it'll finally be profitable.
>>223923507Just finished watching it, 8.5/10. Is this going to be part of the The Batman and Penguin universe?
>>223927675james gunns dcu like supergirl and the recent superman
>>223927675>Is this going to be part of the The Batman and Penguin universe?Gunn's DCU.
>>223923507That’s only Friday’s total you dumb shit
>>223923507There has been zero marketing for it here, just saying
>>223924186At this point it's not even beating a dead horse so much as beating the dust where the dead horse used to be but holy fuck did Hamada ruin everything for everyone. He did the exact opposite of what he should have done in almost every circumstance>decided to reshoot at least half of JL which massively increased the budget while also making one film out of two. So double the cost, half the profit.>refused to greenlight more Superman or Batman films but rushed ahead With Shazam 2, Birds of Prey, Black Adam, Blue Beetle an the Flash. Because why use your a-list characters when you could cash in the huge Blue Beetle fanbase lol>eventually went ahead with a Batman film, but one that had nothing to do with their extended universe or the guy who was already playing Batman or the Joaquin Phoenix Joker movies so you essentially had THREE different iterations of Batman / Bruce Wayne active simultaneously. >For some reason decided that Patty Jenkins was the one person who should be given complete creative freedom and she immediately shat out a joke of a film that killed all momentum from the first WW film>inexplicably sat on the Aquaman sequel for like five fucking years despite the first one being their biggest hit, kept rewriting it to keep pace with all their hysterically reactionary changes in direction after every release and then shit it out after cancelling the entire universe so no one fucking cared any more>ended it all with the Flash, a film that unceremoniously wiped its ass with both the Affleck and Keaton versions of Batman and was released with hilariously unfinished effects because they basically decided to stop wasting money on it and just take the LHis reign was like deliberate sabotage. The company unironically never recovered. I mean, think about it: during the era where comic book movies were THE #1 cash cow, a studio with the rights to Batman and Superman went bankrupt. That shouldn't have even been possible
>>223923507Doesn't matter
>>223927082Giant CGI and /or animatronic monsters cost money. This was budgeted like a modest horror film so if it only makes like $80 mil it could still theoretically be profitable. That one minute was all they could afford
>>223927082This total and complete BULSSHIT!
>>223928066Variety projected a $45 million to $55 million worldwide opening across 76 markets going into the weekend.Clayface landing $43 million is not that good.
>>223928066>it's another "zoomers don't understand theatrical splits or marketing budgets" episodeDipshit, it needs to double that to break even. Assume a 50% drop week over weekThen week 2 is 44+22=66 milWeek 3= 66+11= 77Week 4 = 77 + 5 = 82Week 5 = 82 + 2 = 84And by then it's basically over. So let's assume the theaters keep like 50%, because it's worldwide gross and international splits aren't very generous. Half of 84 is 42. So even if that number includes marketing it's a minor loss and will probably only become veeeery slightly profitable after the fact once secondary revenues like VOD come in. Because it was modestly budgeted it'll do ok. Not a bomb but this is hardly a roaring success either. If it had a slightly bigger opening and eked out like $100 mil worldwide then that would probably be in the black but it's gonna be well short of that.
>>223928384Break-even point for this movie is around $110 million worldwide once marketing is counted. This according to Variety.
>>223928066kek they keep lower that budget number by the day. They pulled a similar stunt with Superdud Man and Woman.
>>223923507is it even his movie? thought it was in development hell and inherited it. it was too far along to cancel like batgirl and claim insurance fraud, so they just put it out.
>>223923757The Welsh cannot make it as movie stars
>>223928469Comparing anything to the Batgirl situation is iffy because that was a fucking bizarre situation. Even if you think you have a bomb on your hands if it's already wrapped production you usually just go through with it. Everyone wants to act like reporting the whole thing as a pre-emptive loss and not even trying to release a more or less completed film makes sense because muh tax write-off but if that's the case, why does that almost never happen? Considering WB was in the midst of a catastrophic run of bad decisions that led to them hemorrhaging money in every direction and being bought out. I don't think it was the most savvy fiscal choice, it was just the most low-effort route that still allowed them to recoup some costs, like someone just giving up and selling a trashed house for peanuts instead of fixing all the problems and getting a reasonable price. They just wanted to bail and not think about it any more.
>>223923571>what the fuck is clayfacewhy do ESLs consistently fuck up basic grammar like this? they always place the "is" in the wrong spot.
>>223923507Nobody outside of India knows who Zack Sneeder is
>>223923507Who the fuck wants a clayface movie?
>>223927082It's a horror movie, first about gross body shit and then shapechanging. Batman isn't in it so there's no real reason for him to go hulk smash.There is some capeshitty fighting at the end. Frankly it was very un-kino but they successfully kept the budget down.>>223925565I wish I had remembered that, I wouldn't have gone to see it. She did fine but I kept thinking how much more invested I would be in her peril if she was a white woman.
>>223923507the budget is only 40mil they're fine
>>223928066>MOVIE made le million dollars>...>...>...>Budget was le other million dollarsWhat the fuck is this retarded format these jeetoid accounts are doing?
>>223923507>>223927453Leaving aside that the DCU as a whole hasn't been a hit internationally, overseas audiences overwhelmingly do not care about horror or even just stuff like R-rated Jason Statham style action thrillers that used to dominate the action genre before capeshit or other darker, more serious movies in general. They only care about action if it involves blue space cats, laser swords or characters wearing spandex tights and masks punching each other through buildings and other childish slop like Odyssey which wasn't even really "R-rated" in most countries like every other movie that gets rated like that in America like Joker or Deadpool & Wolverine so that's why it made so much money.I don't really understand why so many adult humans seem have such an aversion to even slightly darker/scarier stories in their entertainment (japs are especially guilty of this) but once you notice the box office overwhelmingly trends towards essentially live action shounenshit anime ever since the 2000s you can't unnotice it. It's also why Disney/Pixar remains so insanely popular internationally because it's the quintessential juvenile movie studio that people trust to always make relatively inoffensive PG stuff.
>>223928941Yeah we need more Joker
>>223923905>guardians was a decade ago>2023Bro wtf are you going on about?
>>223929029If you were one of the 300,000 people still keeping up with multiple YT grifter channels in 2026, you would know the made up breakeven number that was based on the studio's made up budget and could infer the movie's chances of hitting this number by extrapolating the projected weekly hold, obvsIf it falls a dollar under, that means Kathleen Kennedy gets fired, if it goes a dollar over, that means trans rights are human rights
>>223923507cinema wagie from central europethe movie starts in 30 mins, and this is the occupancy, 12 seats.this was all the week, while street fighter is always 50% 60% sold
>>223923507>third movie into Guns DC univirese>second and third movie is a filler movie unrelated to the DC universe>hard to even say if its the same settingGunn is a fucking hack, should be booted off the project right away
>>223923507There hasn’t been a single DC Studios project worth paying to see. It’s all been streaming fodder. Wait-For-HBO Max-core.
why didn't the put batman in the title at least people know who that is
>>223929101Yeah it's demoralizing when you realize studios are so risk averse because when they take risks most of the time nobody shows up. So it's not even that they're chickenshit, they're just doing what seems to work,Breeders are the primary demo because their herd mentality makes them a well that never really runs dry. Karen McSoccermom and her three kids will show up for Disney live-action remakes forever even if they're universally acknowledged as terrible but some weird, unique film that gets amazing reviews and word of mouth can still be DOA. The Snow White remake was despised and technically a failure but it still made more than something like Nosferatu, which was considered a success. Even when some atypical R rated film gains traction it still brings in a smaller audience than a PG AAA flop.That's not the same as profitability, of course, which is why those smaller films still get made, but they're always going to cater to the biggest demographic the hardest.
>>223923507The fact this movie was made cracks me up. You can thank all of the revisionist BTAS retards that spammed the Clayface episode so much it convinced Hollywood producers that Clayface is some high art tragedy.
>>223923904That makes no sense. Iron Man, Thor and Captain America were much more known than Clayface. And I don't believe that they are so dumb to take Joker as a comparison. That movies had success because it was basically a separate movie in itself. Nobody really take it as part of the Batman universe.
>>223929265Honestly I liked the movie but it’s really stupid to keep trying to tie this to a “universe” I hate this phrase but I have “universe” fatigue. Why can’t we go back to a time when a movie was just a movie.
Hopefully this time next year we're finally past this godawful Gunnverse. I'll happily take a decade of just Batman at this point
>>223929499They just have to make things right as Marvel did. Take your 4 more popular superheros and make individual movies about them. Then make Superman and Batman movies with those appearing. Then make Justice League movies to fight the big villains.Who thought a solo movie about Clayface that nobody knows was going to succeed? Put Clayface in a Batman movie as a secondary villain to start introducing him first.
>>223929440That was a really good episode, though. Trying to emulate it in live action wasn't the problem. The problem is that if you're going to recreate an episode of Batman the animated series you should probably include fucking Batman.A Batman movie with Clayface could have been really interesting. But the studios are trying to extend every IP to infinity by separating every component into an individual franchise and it's ridiculous. Pizza places don't sell toppings by themselves, you put them on the fucking pizza.And you sell Batman villains by putting them in Batman movies, not giving them their own films or HBO series
When is DC actually going to put Batman in something again
>>223929606They're doing Batman Part II
>>223923507>Hey James Gun, our DC movie universe is just starting, who do we bring forth after Superman, that one was a big hit, we need some big name to maintain the momentum, maybe Batman or Worder Woman?>Clayface>Erm, excuse me sir, I don't think I heard you too well.>I said Clayface>The C lister Batman villain? That's the one? Not Batman himself?> Yeh, he can like, shapeshift, make a pseudo-horror movie about him, no Batman or anything, just Clayface, that will destroy the box-office and put us toe to toe with Marvel!>Ummm, sir, I don't think this will work too well... If Batman isn't suiting you, then maybe The Flash or Wonder Woman? These names are both recognizable and very well liked overall...>Nah, give the shitface a try, the MCU won't see what hits'em!That's how I imagine the pitch for this shit went about.
>>223923507Thankfully, there's still hope for this world.
>>223929499Characters occasionally overlapping is fine. The source material is a shared universe. Something like BTAS, which everyone agrees was an almost ideal iteration of the character, was a shared universe and if anything, that just made it better. They just need to do a better job of it. Shit like Superman showing up in a random episode of BTAS or Black Widow and Nick Fury being in a Captain America movie is actually beneficial Every fucking film having the entire character roster is the problem. They need to go back to episodic single-character stories where you have like one guest appearance. The huge ensemble shit was supposed to be an occasional event, not a regular occurrence.I don't want every character in quarantine. I want Superman to know Batman. I want Spider-Man to run into Daredevil. It just needs to be done in moderation
>>223929588Catwoman can have its own solo movie, yes i know what Halle Berry did, Red Hood and Nightwing too, you could even do a Blackgate or Arkham show, ofc all of this shit would work better with Batman, at least as cameo.
>>223929979>you could even do a Blackgate or Arkham show
>>223927082All they know how to make is surf dracula slop.
>>223929979>>223930000>orange is the new blackgate
>>223927484Only thing he's a fan of is grimdark and edge, hence the shitshow that was Superman. And his stellar idea of making a Batman movie in which he gets ass raped in prison for that is how it would be.
>>223929785That’s a good point, moderation is key and I think that’s what I was getting at. I just don’t see how a horror Clayface being in the same universe as goofy superman is relevant
>>223923901I know who Clayface is because I watched TAS growing up.t. Bongladeshi
>>223929979>all of this shit would work better with Batman, at least as cameo.Keaton and Affleck couldn't save the Flash. What makes you think your movies would fare better?
>>223929587>They just have to make things right as Marvel did. Take your 4 more popular superheros and make individual movies about them. Then make Superman and Batman movies with those appearing. Then make Justice League movies to fight the big villains.It doesn't work anymore, dude.
>>223923507DC will never be able to compete with how much brown people like to consoom Marvel. Marvel would've gone under 10 times under if browns had actual standards and knew to stop buying the comics they don't think have been good since the 80s.
i liked it
>>223930668Nobody buys comics anymore except maybe spider-man, lel
This teaser unironically spooked me https://youtu.be/6IxPD-jNdwM?si=NoZOTozZNtcy4aKr
>>223930534imagine what her pissflaps looked like doing that. her minge gaped wide open like the opening of an antique boxers glove
>>223929029It's presumably for impact, and implied commentary of "lol wow this is a flop" without the writer explicitly saying it is a flop.
>>223930686This is the eponymous nightclub scene? More subversive kike bullshit?
>>223931732no
>>223931732yes
>>223931732can you repeat the question?
>>223931732maybe
>>223931758>>223931777>>223931789so pathetic
>>223926798Whatever you say Schlomo, we know what you mean.
>>223923507because nobody gives a shit about fucking clayface batman b tier villain who the fuck wants to watch a movie about that?
>>223930635Why not? Marvel is making 2 new Avenger movies and Doomsday looks like it will be a success.
>>223932072>who the fuck wants to watch a movie about that?I saw it on a whim and it's pretty good. When it comes out on streaming /tv/ is going to say it was hidden kino.
>>223923659There's practically zero capeshit elements in the film. Not even a single mention of Batman. It's sci-fi horror/drama all the way through.
>>223929112I thought the premise here was much more interesting than Joker, even if the execution wasn't as good on a technical level.I expect that in about 20-30 years this will have a small cult following. Joker could've had that too, but the sequel fucked it up.
>>223923507They made a movie with that same story half a million times already. No one gives a fuck unless he's battling other monster villains.
>>223923507>Clayface flops overseasWho the fuck knows about C-tier Batman villains overseas?
>>223932481I don't think they're banking on him being a Batman villain as much as the story itself. It could've very well had a different title, but it would've probably made less money.
>>223928837because it's unintuitive.you'd know if you spoke more than just one language
>>223923658The trailer is mid but the movie itself was oddly satisfying. Dunno if I can call it kino, but it's the best thing to come out of DC in while. Basically a tie with the Penguin show for me.
>Box office $46.5 millionnext stop, 100 million claybros
>>223929150So a business as usual for anything other than an overhyped blockbuster?
>>223923901Oh, now I remember Clayface! Why would they make a movie about him anyway? There's much better villains like the scarecrow or the ventriloquist
>>223932438Clayface should have been a 10 part Netflix series in the style of a feel good Burn Notice style show about a Hollywood actor conman who impersonates different politicians CEOs and PR reps to blackmail and extort people for roles and influence. Every now and then there is a "oh nose I can't get wet" or "oh no I can't stay in the sun too long" to keep shit interesting
>>223925431Your brown i think the translation in Hindi was Shitman
>>223923507In my country, when people find out it was DC they assume it's automatically bad and dark (literally). They simply prefer Marvel
>>223923507Supergirl sucked even over here. Literal chimp in a cape
>>223932529>I don't think they're banking on him being a Batman villain as much as the story itself.Then what's the point?
>>223923658what the fuck does it matter you retardwas obsession popular before people saw it?
>>223927082>Clayface's monster form only has 50 seconds of screentime at the end>For what purpose?To say farewell...
>>223924151> The SubstanceYou can't just rip off another movie and expect people to go see it>>223935141Obsession was an original ip marketed as a stretch forward date night popcorn flick with an easy to understand gimmick. This is a superhero IP being marketed directly to a periphery demographic in an odd brand ripoff of a social commentary movie from two years prior that strips out all of the factors that carried the previous movie (a forner A-list star, a current B-list star, topical political pandering, and over sexualization) leaving only the most off putting and polarizing aspect intact (grotesque body horror) while also having the added benefit of having purposely alienated their audience the last time they gave them the benefit of the doubt on one of these movies.
>>223923691
>>223928817It was purportedly bad enough to cause significant, immediate brand damage to DC/the company.Which sounds surprising when you consider they allowed shit like Titans negro streetwalker Starfire to see the light of day but that was just television. This was a 200mil+ movie that just looked like television. Besides just not making money it could have been so amateurish, because everyone working on it was a dei hack, that it legitimately wasn't fit to release. The costuming looked like a YouTube cosplayer fan film and they could have pissed away months of shooting time to make something that looked like saving captain Alex.
>>223924151>The Substance.Do you retards realize that The Animated Series already covered these themes? Clayface(the movie) was heavily inspired by that. Albeit the animated episode wasn’t as deep because even though it was a two parter it’s still not as long as a movie, saying it just ripped off the substance only exposes you as a retard 20 year old
>>223929412Yeah and I mean look it's not like I can't enjoy some juvenile shit in my entertainment sometimes too but I also like the opposite plenty because I have a diverse taste palate, and in fact I intensely dislike modern day juvenile action/adventure blockbusters that normgroids massively overrate like DUNC and Spiderverse and PHM and Invincible, that shit has nothing on Raimi Spider-Man and the PotC trilogy and 2000s Pixar animations. Normies and thirdies basically only want the same two types of movies made over and over again and they're very easily impressed these days and have dogshit tastes.You know what's funny though? It seems like horror is actually decently popular with China but not Korea or Japan or any other EA/SEA countries but I guess that's bound to happen when your country houses nearly a quarter of the Earth's total population.
>>223923507>>223927082>>223928188>>223928954If you wanna make a sloppy horror movie at least show us some naked bitches, oh wait...horror movies are no longer allowed to do that anymore >Latter Halloween movies removed the nudity despite being ""direct"" sequels to the OG which had nudity>Witchboard remake removes nudity>Carrie remake removes nudity >"In Crystal Lake's writer's Bradley Caleb Kane's own words "I tried to include nudity like in the previous Friday The 13th projects,. But that’s America. You can give the kids all the violence and gore, but God forbid they see some breasts.", he claims he was overruled/forbidden from showing any sort of nudity."
>>223935801>marketed as a stretch forward date night popcorn flickObsession was barely marketed though. I know /tv/ wants to believe the popularity of that movie was astroturfed and planned because of social messaging but it was entirely carried to half a billion by organic word-of-mouth alone.
>>223936719>Literally a full naked woman in the movie
>>223928384>So let's assume the theaters keep like 50%Lolol what fantasy world are you living in Hyberborea? Try more like theatres take 20% if generous if you want to set your counterfactual in a human world
>>223936747You're dancing around the point. Obsession was a straightforward date night flick without any heavy themes and a straight forward gimmick. It's not associated with an existing IP that people may or may not have pre-existing feelings about or the thought that it may require having wanted previous movies or will just be a set up for a character to appear in future movies or that it's going to be a let down like previous installments (Joker 2, Supergirl, etc)It's like asking why wouldn't people want to watch Avengers Doomsday if they were willing to see You're Cordially Invited.
>>223930686Any nudity?
>>223936864Few people in the world pay to see disfigured characters for ~fun. If either Bear or Nikky was disfigured from the wish, the boxoffice would be different.
>>223936024Yeah no shit moron, body horror has been a very popular genre for a long time but when The Substance is a massive hit and then 3 months later this gets greenlit those events are probably related.
>>223923507The problem is you need to build a better reputation before you can start doing side projects like this.
>>223924186But it is interesting, that the biggest hit of Snyder era was the movie that was the most Marvel-like. And Then there was the Joker, which was something completely different.
>>223936968You see her tits and ass
>>223925250I don't think that is going too well either.
>>223934477she's cute, get straight bully.
>>223936864>without any heavy themesWe already know by now this isn't the case. I don't know what your threshold is for "heavy themes" but majority of people saw it as some social commentary on "the nice guy", women having their bodily autonomy removed and getting "raped", that sort of thing. Nothing makes modern men and women more uncomfortable than SA. Disney Marvel dragged out their firing of Jonathan Majors right up until he was given the guilty verdict because he was only accused of domestic violence, but these mega corporations just need a mere accusation of rape or sexual harassment in public before immediately letting their male employees go.And before anyone here blows a lid, I'm not saying I agree or disagree, but that is how most people including here interpreted the film, as an anti-male feminist exposé.
>>223937171Finally a DC film with female nudity.
>>223923507is the movie good at all?magnet?
>>223928066lets face it most $200m+ budget movies dont make a profit. Why has it took this long for studios to get smart?
>>223929785is Batman holding on like a bitch or is he trying to assert dominance spreading his shoulders?
>>223928837Languages other than English are grug tier shit that only use the most rudimentary words. In English you might say "did you put the plate on the table?" but most other languages would say some equivalent of "you plate table put". The English language is the main reason people are capable of higher forms of complex thought now.
I feel like the more interesting question is: why are American millennials so hellbent on propping up capeshit as a genre? Like if they defect we can kill this dogshit once and for all.
>>223923507Is there even much overlap between horror fans and superhero-action fans?I don't watch many horror films, and none of my friends do.
>>223923680Guardians made Gunn delusional. He thinks he has the magic ability to turn everything into gold. No Gunn you're not turning a random Batman villain into the next A-lister.
>>223937033>massive hitLmao ok slow down retard. Obsession was a massive hit. Nobody outside of /tv/ and Letterboxd even knows what it is
>>223938241It's been done many times before actually:>Blade>Brightburn>Hellboy>Constantine>Toxic Avenger>Werewolf by Night>The Crow>Darkman>New Mutants>Spawn>Ghost Rider>Swamp Thing>WolfCopI know it's not considered superhero or horror normally but RoboCop kind of counts too.
>>223923507Being a box office flop is the new punkrock
>>223937712profit on paper =! personal profit of the people involved in the production
>The international box office of every Gunn DC movie is 41% pottery
>>223923942More like I don't watch movies with random fucking clayfaces.
>>223923740Because Gunn can’t make a DCU Batman movie until Matt Reeves is finished with The Batman 2.Sadly The Batman 2 won’t come out til 2029.So Batman is now in limbo because of WB allowing Matt Reeves to hold Batman hostage.Gunn’s solution is to make movies based off Batman villains aka Sony’s villain universe (Clayface, Bane & Deathstroke, etc).
>>223929606You have to wait for 2029/2030.
>>223936719>delusional retard goes into a tangent as if what he say is truthful.Dumbass, have you even seen the movie? Within the first 10 minutes we see the mob boss wife's tits. The lack of people in the thread calling you out show the sorry state of this board.
>>223923649I had to grit my teeth and ring the bell. The sheboon looks like bix nood comic and is a super medical genius. I can accept a mutant superhuman antivillian but lets still stay in reality. Also the statistics would say she is more likely to commit murder or have STDs than a mutant White man.
>>223923507It only needs to make like a 100 million to break even right? The USA can make it that much.
>>223937739lol
>>223929588Penguin was absolutely gigabased though. Otherwise yeah I agree with you.
>>223940502it needs 500 million to break even
